Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination

2021-05-27 Thread Bob Long
Michael Richards via gimp-user-list wrote on 28/5/21 9:24 am:
> Thank you Frederico,
>
> I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but 
> am open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program, 
> the CoC, and/or the board of directors if any or all of those groups wish. 
>
> My intention is not to cause trouble for anyone but to help make open source 
> software more welcoming to, and safe for, everyone. 
>
> My thanks to you, the other members of the CoC, and the Gnome Foundation 
> board of Directors addressing this request.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mike
>
> Michael Richards, BSc (he/his)
> Victoria BC, Canada
>
Given that Michael says he has removed himself from the list he may not
see this. But I do not support a name change.

And may I point out that Michael's signature line, "Michael Richards,
BSc (he/his)" may offend some people (but not me)?

-- 

Bob Long


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[Gimp-user] A fan of GIMP.

2021-05-27 Thread Rick Strong
I'm with you, Dave.

BTW, in addition to John Callahan, people might be interested to view the heart 
warming movie called "Door To Door" 2002, a true story.
-- Bill Porter, a man afflicted with cerebral palsy, is desperate to find a job 
despite his condition. He uses his sense of humour, determination, and winning 
spirit to convince a manager to hire him as a door-to-door salesman for 
Watkins, a supplier of household items and baking products. Porter walks 
several miles every day on his sales route... 
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R

Beware the tyranny of the offended.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Stevens 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:17 PM 
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org 
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language 
and discrimination 

On Thu, 27 May 2021 20:05:15 -0400
Patrick Shanahan  wrote:

> I vote for no name change.

Me too. Am I the only one to have read John Callahan's book? I have no
interest in turning a technical support list into a virtue signalling
fest. Do it yourself.

d
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Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination

2021-05-27 Thread Dave Stevens
On Thu, 27 May 2021 20:05:15 -0400
Patrick Shanahan  wrote:

> I vote for no name change.

Me too. Am I the only one to have read John Callahan's book? I have no
interest in turning a technical support list into a virtue signalling
fest. Do it yourself.

d
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Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination

2021-05-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Michael Richards via gimp-user-list  [05-27-21 
19:34]:
> Thank you Frederico,
> 
> I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but 
> am open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program, 
> the CoC, and/or the board of directors if any or all of those groups wish. 
> 
> My intention is not to cause trouble for anyone but to help make open source 
> software more welcoming to, and safe for, everyone. 
> 
> My thanks to you, the other members of the CoC, and the Gnome Foundation 
> board of Directors addressing this request.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Mike
> 
> Michael Richards, BSc (he/his)
> Victoria BC, Canada
> 
> 
> > On May 27, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Federico Mena Quintero  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 11:19 -0700, Michael Richards via code-of-
> > conduct-committee wrote:
> >> I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
> >> violates the GNOME Code of Conduct.
> > 
> > Hi, Michael, thanks for your report.
> > 
> > The CoC committee is aware of this problem, and the GNOME Foundation's


Please do not purport to speak for me as I am perfectly happy with the
current name and have been so for many years now.

I vote for no name change.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination

2021-05-27 Thread Michael Richards via gimp-user-list
Thank you Frederico,

I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but am 
open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program, the 
CoC, and/or the board of directors if any or all of those groups wish. 

My intention is not to cause trouble for anyone but to help make open source 
software more welcoming to, and safe for, everyone. 

My thanks to you, the other members of the CoC, and the Gnome Foundation board 
of Directors addressing this request.

Sincerely,

Mike

Michael Richards, BSc (he/his)
Victoria BC, Canada


> On May 27, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Federico Mena Quintero  
> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 11:19 -0700, Michael Richards via code-of-
> conduct-committee wrote:
>> I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
>> violates the GNOME Code of Conduct.
> 
> Hi, Michael, thanks for your report.
> 
> The CoC committee is aware of this problem, and the GNOME Foundation's
> Board of Directors is handling this as a special case.  The Board has
> had a private email thread and a video call with the GIMP's
> maintainers, and things have not been satisfactory to either party.
> 
> Reports to the CoC committee are kept in private, so unfortunately we
> cannot give you details on the state of the situation.  You can be
> assured that the Board is dealing with this.
> 
> Federico - as chairperson of the CoC Committee, and Board member.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination

2021-05-27 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 11:19 -0700, Michael Richards via code-of-
conduct-committee wrote:
> I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
> violates the GNOME Code of Conduct. 

Hi, Michael, thanks for your report.

The CoC committee is aware of this problem, and the GNOME Foundation's
Board of Directors is handling this as a special case.  The Board has
had a private email thread and a video call with the GIMP's
maintainers, and things have not been satisfactory to either party.

Reports to the CoC committee are kept in private, so unfortunately we
cannot give you details on the state of the situation.  You can be
assured that the Board is dealing with this.

  Federico - as chairperson of the CoC Committee, and Board member.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Of Cabbages and Kings

2021-05-27 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr via gimp-user-list

Rick Strong wrote:
With 3.49 Million deaths world-wide from COVID, etc., etc., etc., there 
are greater things to occupy our thoughts and take our energy, IMHO. 
GIMP has been my go-to program for years now and that won't change.


RS
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I've been using The GIMP on and off since at least 1997 (maybe later in
1999, I don't exactly remember) and I never once found the name
offensive (I do have a maligned limb, though not the leg). I've never
once associated The GIMP with 'unusual' sexual preferences or anyone's
purported disability. I use it to edit photos and inexpertly create memes.

While the OP is entitled to his opinion, he isn't entitled to demand
others to cater to what he (and/or others) think and honestly it was the
demanding tone of the OP that ticked me off and put me off from replying
until now.

Apologies to Mr. Strong for sending the initial reply directly to him.
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Sincerely,



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