Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022 (Dan Hitt)

[Gloria Lassich via gimp-user-list]

So, this mailing list will be gone? Bummer. Is there another place (forum,
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Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi!

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:09:33 +0200
Jernej Simončič <#/&+-'={*_~}$.`?@eternallybored.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, October 20, 2022, 23:49:49, Joel Rees via gimp-user-list wrote:
> 
> > Ah, but it's not new and shiny and easy to check off the to-do lists.  
> 
> Main problem with usenet is the barrier to entry. Everybody has a browser,
> many people use e-mail (mostly only for work), but barely anybody still uses
> a newsreader (or even knows that they exist and what Usenet even is).
> 

There is "google groups": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups . 

"usenet is the old reddit" ;]

re "barrier to entry" see:
https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-cards-on-the-table-2019-2020/#selling-for-stupider-ppl
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Road#A_metaphorical_%22Royal_Road%22_in_famous_quotations
.

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Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

[peter]

From:   =?utf-8?Q?Jernej_Simon
Date:   Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:09:33 +0200
> ... barely anybody still uses a newsreader (or even knows that 
> they exist ...

There's something for that.  Documentation.  A half page should be 
enough to deploy a news reader.  =8~)

The reader I use is almost trivial to configure and use.  Meanwhile 
the browser wallows in JavaScript.  =8~/

> ... and what Usenet even is).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

Incidentally, the source of the news module here is 46 kB. Depending 
upon font size, roughly 30 pages of readily digestible code. Object 
file is 65 kB.

In Debian 11, i386, Firefox-esr, installed size is 227 MB.  That's 
roughly 3500 times the size of the object file noted above!

Is any technology less efficient than a contemporary commercial 
computing system?

Regards,   ... P.


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Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

[Joel Rees via gimp-user-list]

2022年10月21日(金) 5:21 :

> Dave & all,
>
> From:   dboland9 via gimp-user-list 
> Date:   Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:51:45 +
> > There really must be a better way.
>
> Usenet, invented more than 40 years ago.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
>
> A small screenshot from recent submissions here.
> http://easthope.ca/sci.electronics.repair.png
>
> The small proportion of spam is tolerable.
>
> Regards,   ... P.
>

Ah, but it's not new and shiny and easy to check off the to-do lists.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re (3): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Joel Rees via gimp-user-list]

2022年10月21日(金) 4:51 Patrick Shanahan via gimp-user-list <
gimp-user-list@gnome.org>:

> * pe...@easthope.ca  [10-20-22 14:56]:
> > P.s.
> >
> > From: pe...@easthope.ca
> > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:15:21 -0700
> > > In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one
> > > level down.  Here two levels down.  =8~/  Can't commend that.
> >
> > Login and logout are inverses. Therefore, finding them at the same
> > level is rational. Login is top level.  Putting logout two levels down
> > simply isn't reasonable.
> >
> > Regards,... P.
> >
>
> replacing text with guey isn't reasonable!
>

Churn.

Newly minted managers pushing their newly minted engineers to do something
they can check off on their to-do lists, because the newly minted teachers
in the education system never gave them time to actually understand what
they were doing, and instead taught them that was how to make the grade.

And I'm already off-topic, but we have to let the engineers and managers
learn what they're doing somewhere, so we put up with the churn in the
industry. And sometimes useful stuff falls out and sometimes useless stuff
fails to get lopped off. Situation normal.

Churn.

Joel Rees

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Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired

[peter]

Dave & all,

From:   dboland9 via gimp-user-list 
Date:   Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:51:45 +
> There really must be a better way.

Usenet, invented more than 40 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

A small screenshot from recent submissions here.
http://easthope.ca/sci.electronics.repair.png

The small proportion of spam is tolerable.

Regards,   ... P.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Re (3): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Patrick Shanahan via gimp-user-list]

* pe...@easthope.ca  [10-20-22 14:56]:
> P.s.
> 
> From: pe...@easthope.ca
> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:15:21 -0700
> > In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one 
> > level down.  Here two levels down.  =8~/  Can't commend that.
> 
> Login and logout are inverses. Therefore, finding them at the same 
> level is rational. Login is top level.  Putting logout two levels down 
> simply isn't reasonable.
> 
> Regards,... P.
> 
> 
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> 

replacing text with guey isn't reasonable!


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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Dan Hitt via gimp-user-list]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 12:06 PM Jernej Simončič <#/&+-'={*_~}$.`?@
eternallybored.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, October 20, 2022, 18:44:12, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
>
> > Login and logout are inverses. Therefore, finding them at the same
> > level is rational. Login is top level.  Putting logout two levels down
> > simply isn't reasonable.
>
> I don't really see the point of logging out – it's a website, just don't
> visit it if you don't need it at the moment.
>

Well, if you are on a public computer you don't want to leave anything
logged in because the next user could impersonate you?

Alternatively, if there's no need to ever log out, then just don't provide
the means, anywhere, to do so.  But that doesn't sound exactly right.  :)

dan


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[Gimp-user] Re (3): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[peter]

P.s.

From:   pe...@easthope.ca
Date:   Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:15:21 -0700
> In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one 
> level down.  Here two levels down.  =8~/  Can't commend that.

Login and logout are inverses. Therefore, finding them at the same 
level is rational. Login is top level.  Putting logout two levels down 
simply isn't reasonable.

Regards,... P.


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[Gimp-user] News list being retired

[dboland9 via gimp-user-list]

I see that the plan is to go to yet another web based mess. I don't care for 
the idea of having to have an ID and PW to ask a question. Please at least 
consider guest accounts, or re-think the whole idea. There really must be a 
better way.

Dave,

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Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble Importing DNG files

[Rick Strong]

Zamzar has a free online converter that does DNG. Try it. I've used it for 
other files.


https://www.zamzar.com/converters/image/dng/

Rick

-Original Message- 
From: Micah Salb

Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 11:41 AM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Trouble Importing DNG files

Folks:

I have tried to import DNG files from my iPhone 14 and I get an error 
message each time:


Calling error for procedure ‘gimp-file-load’:
Error opening file ‘C”
\users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\gimp\2.10\gimp-temp-434241.exr’ for 
reading


And:

Opening . . . failed:

Raw Adobe DNG Digital Negative plug-in could not open image

I have tried with both RawTherapy and DarkTable.

I AM able to open these files using Microsoft Photos and ACDSEE.

Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?

Micah
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[Gimp-user] Re (2): Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[peter]

From:   =?UTF-8?B?SmVoYW4gUGFnw6hz?= 
Date:   Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:49:38 +0200
> 1) On the top-right, there is an icon ...

Found it.  Thx.

In most authenticated interfaces "logout" is directly visible or one 
level down.  Here two levels down.  =8~/  Can't commend that.

Thanks,  ... P.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Jehan Pagès via gimp-user-list]

Hi!

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:42 PM  wrote:

> From:   Andrea Veri 
> Subject:[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be
> retired by the end of Oct 2022
> > ... GNOME's Mailman platform is being decommissioned ...
> > ...
> > [1] https://discourse.gnome.org
>
> > Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions ...
>
> I created an account, found the list of tags, switched order from
> "count" to "name" and found gimp.  Whew!  Conclusion: more complex
> than necessary but it works.
>
> Haven't found a logout.  Does Discourse have logout?
>

Yeah, it's a bit hidden, I agree.

1) On the top-right, there is an icon representing your account (it's
either a profile picture if you set one, or I believe by default, it's the
first letter of your account name). Click it.
2) It pops up some popover dialog, with 4 top icons. The rightest icon is
like some kind of "person". Click the person icon.
3) The menu shown below will have a "Log Out" item.

Jehan


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Re: [Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[peter]

From:   Andrea Veri 
Subject:[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by 
the end of Oct 2022
> ... GNOME's Mailman platform is being decommissioned ...
> ...
> [1] https://discourse.gnome.org

> Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions ...

I created an account, found the list of tags, switched order from 
"count" to "name" and found gimp.  Whew!  Conclusion: more complex 
than necessary but it works.

Haven't found a logout.  Does Discourse have logout?

Thanks,   ... P.




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[Gimp-user] Trouble Importing DNG files

[Micah Salb]

Folks:

I have tried to import DNG files from my iPhone 14 and I get an error message 
each time:

Calling error for procedure ‘gimp-file-load’:
Error opening file ‘C”
\users\xxx\AppData\Local\Temp\gimp\2.10\gimp-temp-434241.exr’ for reading

And:

Opening . . . failed:

Raw Adobe DNG Digital Negative plug-in could not open image

I have tried with both RawTherapy and DarkTable.

I AM able to open these files using Microsoft Photos and ACDSEE.

Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?

Micah
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[Gimp-user] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Andrea Veri]

Hi,

As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to
initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
out to me directly.

Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can follow
[3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse. The new
platform supports several login methods including your GNOME Account and
other major OpenID providers.

After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain alive
in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind an
alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on Discourse
instead.

Thanks,

P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the
deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase

[1] https://discourse.gnome.org
[2]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html
[3]
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5

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