Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Re: Update blocked by trend micro
On Monday 15 November 2021 00:03:47 R45XvezA via gimp-user-list wrote: > Hey, > > I'm also a user, this is about misunderstanding and gimp is a > opensource software. > > You should report this to trendmicro; not here and or say to your > administrator to whitelist the application; new update file (or may be > your admin has configured aggressive rules due to fear of ransomware, > exploit.. Lol. but those solutions (including competitors) reality is > something different than expect. > > And for example, some FOSS applications come without code signing too > because they dont have money but those are usually block by such money > making security solutions > Since the download he shows in an earlier msg is an .exe.part, the first thing I would do is blow that one away and go get it again, (AND its checksum so you can check it yourself) this time from the gimp site, it is an incomplete download and not even god knows whats it it. Then if trend-micro fusses, fuss back at trend-micro. Better yet, remove trend-micro. > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Monday, November 15th, 2021 at 3:36 AM, Rick Strong wrote: > > D'accord. > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Moe via gimp-user-list > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:27 PM > > > > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > > > Subject: [Gimp-user] [OT] Re: Update blocked by trend micro > > > > On 2021-11-14 02:32, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > It is very important not to use trend micro for your security. > > > > > > That are not to be trusted. > > > > 1. The OP made clear he is in a corporate environment. He has no > > control > > > > over > > > > security choices. > > 2. Such a wantonly unsupported statement of untrustworthiness is > > not > > > > helpful. > > > > -- > > > > James Moe > > > > moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com > > > > 520.743.3936 > > > > Think. > > > > gimp-user-list mailing list > > > > List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > > > List membership: > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > > > > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > > > > gimp-user-list mailing list > > > > List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > > > List membership: > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > > > > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop
On Thursday 21 October 2021 16:21:44 Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Wed, 2021-10-20 at 21:58 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list > > > wrote: > > > > It is just broken. Everytime I use it it defaults to 62pts and it > > refuses to change. > > I think you are saying that gimp is not saving tool options on exit? > > If so that's controlled by a setting in edit/preferences. > > Liam gimp 2.8 on stretch here. Running from command line gets me a screen full+ of errors about gegl's cache size can't be set, naming a different hex address for each error. I was able to enable saveing tools on exit, which was not checked. But was unable to open a gegl selection dialog. I did not have a sacrificial image loaded. Are these errors and results normal for 2.8? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop
On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause > is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own > satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and > I've been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As > far as I can recall the issue was that the users were trying to change > things in two places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool > options. Changes in the on screen editor only apply to that box. > Changes to the tool options apply to either the current box or the > next box created. Changes to the current box are never (so far as I > can make out) applied to the tool options. There is no hidden default. > The tool options can be changed and are saved between sessions and the > next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were when you > last shut down. > > Cliff I wish that were true, but I've had to expand the size of the font from invisible to 100 points or more for every box of text I've used to add captions or labels to a picture for at least 20 years. If its a tool option, tell me please how to set it so its big enough to be read by default. I ATM, have whatever version is std for debian stretch. Thanks. [...] Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Hangout - NYLXS] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - Grow a pair, don't be so sensitive, else they might change it to WIMP
On Friday 28 May 2021 11:55:17 S. via gimp-user-list wrote: > I first heard this name other than the software in the movie Pulp > Fiction, and didn't even know what the hell it meant. Grow a pair, > don't be so sensitive, else they might change it to WIMP That almost makes sense since the mascots name is Wilber. Wilbers Improved Manipulator Program? Nah, never happen. Too much common sense. ;o) > > On Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:50:56 AM EDT, Michael Richards via > gimp-user-list wrote: > > Dear Gnome and Gnu Image Manipulation Program community, > > I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it > violates the GNOME Code of Conduct. > > I make this request, not to cause trouble but to stand up against > unintentional - but no less harmful - discrimination. > > I want to be able to this software but I don’t feel morally able to > because of the name. > > I know this is under the FAQ - and that perhaps makes it even more of > a worthy conversation to revisit... because if you’re talking > frequently asked then these concerns are not just mine. > > I am a person with multiple disabilities. I, and others like me, face > many barriers, structural violence, and overt discrimination. All this > together creates great suffering for many. > > The response I read in FAQ about changing this software’s name is not > sufficient. > > https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#i-dont-like-the-name-gimp-will- >you-change-it > > I don’t think that this is intentional but it comes out of ignorance > and doesn’t reflect what I see as the spirit of the FOSS community. > > It essentially says, ‘we came up with a name we knew (or came to know) > was offensive 20+ years ago and we refuse to change or evolve.’ > Moreover, it is typical of the attitude towards people with > disabilities as a marginalized group - it says, ‘Your pain and > suffering are not important. Our branding is more important.’ > > This is in violation of the Gnome.org Code of Conduct. > https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct > > Sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist language or otherwise > exclusionary language. This includes deliberately referring to someone > by a gender that they do not identify with, and/or questioning the > legitimacy of an individual's gender identity. If you're unsure if a > word is derogatory, don't use it. This also includes repeated subtle > and/or indirect discrimination. Think of how quickly this software’s > name would change if the name was a derogatory term for another > marginalized group. Terms I will not use even for example because they > are generally considered so offensive. The name of this software is > just as offensive. > > So, in the spirit of inclusion and doing no harm - I formally request > that the name be changed. It’s 2021, the world is hurting, we need to > work together. > > I am not asking this because I don’t want to support this software and > the community that uses it and develops it. I requesting this because > I want to support it. > > Sincerely, > > Michael Richards, BSc, (he/him) > Victoria BC, Canada > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > ___ > Hangout mailing list > hang...@nylxs.com > http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout > > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination
On Friday 28 May 2021 05:54:39 Adrian Midgley via gimp-user-list wrote: > What does Michael Richards do? > No clue, I don't care enough to look up a BSc. But I have a certificate card in my billfold and an 8x10 on the wall thats probably 1000x rarer, I am a CET. Its got me every job I have applied for since I passed that test in 1972. And none of that is in any way germaine to this. gimp was I beleave, part of the first Linux install I made in 1998 or 99. RH5.0. Its come a long ways since, but IMO, renameing it would be a travesty. Such PC people will be the end of us yet. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, in 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination
On Friday 28 May 2021 00:35:20 Bob Long wrote: > Michael Richards via gimp-user-list wrote on 28/5/21 9:24 am: > > Thank you Frederico, > > > > I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for > > now but am open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image > > Manipulation Program, the CoC, and/or the board of directors if any > > or all of those groups wish. > > > > My intention is not to cause trouble for anyone but to help make > > open source software more welcoming to, and safe for, everyone. > > > > My thanks to you, the other members of the CoC, and the Gnome > > Foundation board of Directors addressing this request. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mike > > > > Michael Richards, BSc (he/his) > > Victoria BC, Canada > > Given that Michael says he has removed himself from the list he may > not see this. But I do not support a name change. Neither do I. Graphics Image Modification Program, aka gimp, is just fine. At 86, theres a bit of a hitch in my gitalong too, in fact I'm up in the middle of the night working some Theraworx into a leg cramp. I'm also a 30 year DM-II, so I'm obviously thin skinned and covered in bruises because I am still active, but not thin enough the name bothers me. To anyone who is bothered, grow some skin. > And may I point out that Michael's signature line, "Michael Richards, > BSc (he/his)" may offend some people (but not me)? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Fw: scan-mirrage-effect-Problem with postcard
On Monday 10 May 2021 23:55:17 Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 23:22 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The moire pattern is without a doubt, from scanning a litho print > > which > > is microscopic patterns of different size colored dots that mix in > > the > > eye to make the color. > > Did you look at the image? No, I just got interested in the thread as it seemed to be going on for a longer time than most, and the fact that I've shared chemical darkroom space with a print shop so I am somewhat familiar with the tech that probably printed that postcard. Whats the date/time of the post containing the image? And, most importantly, is that image raw, uncompressed staight out of the scanners cable, very unlikely, or has it been passed thru a compression utility, in the latter case all bets are off. Simply put, any scan good enough to publish out of my scanner will be jpegged or png'd because the raw scan is going to be half a gigabyte or more, and will be compressed to under 300k base64'd for transport over the net. gimp is very good at that, but it is not without lots of artifacts to the trained eye. > Although there's evidence of dot screen > atrefacts, that'snot what is being referred to. In addition, the > stripes change direction on the second scan, suggesting they are not > coming from the actual postcard. in that event, I'd blame that on sloppiness of the scanners head transport linkage. A .1mm inconsistency of square would change a moire pattern, a lot. or moving the card on the glass by replacing it on the glass for the 2nd scan. Even if the lid is not raised, the scanner could easily displace the second scan enough just from temperature effects to change the pattern. Unsynchronized data clocking would also see to that. In fact combining multiple scans with a 32 or 64 bit addition, and decimating it back to 16 or even 8 bit depth by throwing away the lsbits might well be the cure because it would cancel the moire pattern by averaging the sums. But thats not practical to do on a large scale with todays computers, but when we get 256 bit cpu's and terabytes of fast ram it will be routine. Astronomers with access to supercomputers do that stacking and synchronizing of images all the time to Hubbles images to get the amazing pix we get out of it. That scope is a time machine, looking back in time as much as 13.8 billion years. To a time when the universe was new, maybe 200,000 years after the big bang. We can't see any further back because it was opaque before then. It had to cool a while before light became uncoupled and could escape to begin its journey to Hubbles single photon detectors. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Fw: scan-mirrage-effect-Problem with postcard
On Monday 10 May 2021 20:56:27 Rick Strong wrote: > I didn't see my reply show up on the Gimp user list. > RS > -Original Message- > From: Rick Strong > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:33 AM > To: Tim (from Hamburg) ; gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] scan-mirrage-effect-Problem with postcard > > Well, it's not moiré from the glass. > > It seems to be a scanning artefact introduced by the scanner. But you > say it doesn't happen with scans of images on plain or matte paper. > try putting a black card over the postcard before you lower the lid. > Also check your scanner settings. > > If that doesn't work, you could try photographing the glossy postcard > with a camera. With some fridge magnets you could stick it vertically > to the side of something metallic in good light, like your > refrigerator or your car. Then crop out or clone out the magnets from > the photograph. > > Rick S. The moire pattern is without a doubt, from scanning a litho print which is microscopic patterns of different size colored dots that mix in the eye to make the color. If the scanner or camera lens is sharp enough and the autofocus accurate enough, it can be quite a problem. you may be able to reduce or eliminaate it with what ever is in the toolbox to reduce the unwanted sharpness, which should blend the dot pattern away if done in the right amount and size of the blend. Ideally, the size of the blend should match the size of the dot pattern but tolerances in paper positioning as the printer lays each ink color may make this difficult to balance without adversly effecting the overall sharpness. Be aware that copyright info may be hidden, invisible to the eye in this dot pattern. And it is considered valid proof of a violation. > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP is 25 yo
On Saturday 21 November 2020 22:14:11 Bob Long wrote: > Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote on 22/11/20 12:13 pm: > > Hello! > > > > GIMP turns 25 years old on November 21. We wrote something about it > > :) > > > > https://www.gimp.org/news/2020/11/21/25-years-of-gimp/ > > > > Many thanks to everyone involved in any role imaginable! > > > > Alex > > Happy birthday - and many thanks for making GIMP. +21, one for every year I've been a linux only user. Holidays '98 was about the time I build a K6 powered box and installed red hat 5.0 on it. Never looked back. You guys are all rock stars in my book of life, 86 years of them so far. Happy Birthday! Enjoy the party cake but don't forget the ice cream. Be sure and leave a little in the bowl you set on the floor for Wilber to lick up too. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Monday 05 October 2020 21:15:59 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > Ok, I now have 2.8.22 running in Ubuntu in a VM. That's as close as I > can get to your setup - Debian 9 and Gimp 2.8.?. > > This is vanilla, out of the box, no configuration. > > I created a new blank image, and selected the text tool. In the Tool > Options the font is "Sans", the size is 18 px and the colour is black. > > In the tool options I change the font to "Serif", size to 36 px and > the colour to green. All this in theText Tool Options. *Note that this > changes the default foreground colour to green*. > > I click on the canvas and drag to get a text box. Type "Abcd". The > font is "Serif" and the colour is green, and the size shows as 36 px. > > I decide that I want the test to be blue and 42 px and the font to be > sans. I make sure the text box is selected. > > I click the font button and select "Sans" in the drop down list in the > Tool Options. The text immediately changes to Sans. It stays green and > 36 px. > > I change the colour to blue and the size to 42 px in the Tool Options. > Those attributes change immediately. Changing one has no effect on the > other and changes are immediate. > > *Note that this does not change the default foreground colour which > remains green*. > > If I click and drag another text box elsewhere, it takes the size and > the font from the first box, but it shows the colour from the default > foreground when I type some text. But if I type some text and* then > *change the colour in the tool options it doesn't change the default > foreground colour. > > I haven't seen it 'reset' any other options. If I had to guess, I'd > guess that you have another, invisible text box, you've clicked in > that and it uses the font and size option from that box. That's why I > asked how many layers you have. If it worked that way for me I wouldn't have a problem. How do I determine how many "layers" as you call them that there are in a .jpg image loaded from my cannon PowerShot SX420 IS by cable connection by digikam, and then loaded into gimp so I can add some captions? BUT! Following the above instruction sequence but using the lower color selector, it all works the first time. Whats confusing the issue is that there are TWO places to change the color, one in the toolbox and one in the lower edit it box. Using the lower boxes color selector does NOT reset everything else. And I found the image info and there are now, after adding another caption line, 3 layers shown in an info box. This makes sense, AND Just Works, finally. And I learned something valuable that I'm hoping my ancient brain which turned 86 yo yesterday can remember the next time I want to do something. The main use of gimp here is to smunch a modern cameras half a gigabyte+ images down into something under 375k or less so most email servers will pass it. Captioning is done much less often. And I just found that the latest caption text added is the layer affected by the color adjust, so the text color can be adjusted after the caption is done. So I'd assume there is someplace to select the layer the rest of the tools work on. Thank you very much Cliff, for going to all that work to show me how it works. Its very much appreciated. [...] Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Sunday 04 October 2020 00:55:20 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > There's a flatpak on gimp.org. If you want a Debian version, there is > one of those too, available through the debian repositories. Both > 2.10.something. Where did you get your 2.8 version from? > > Cliff I'd love to just to be on the same page as you are. But this is stretch, debian 9, 2.10 is not available from the debian repos for stretch. And I just checked, no flatpack installer for stretch. So thats out. How does a flatpack compare to an appimage? I am using several of those here and they seem to work well with truely stable performance. An AppImage is truely selfcontained, having all the dependencies it needs right in the image. The image is huge, the launch is slow but commodity drives today are $90 2T's. Plenty of room and I have 32GB of memory to play in here. Seems like a good way to assure that it Just Works for everyone. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Sunday 04 October 2020 00:55:20 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > There's a flatpak on gimp.org. If you want a Debian version, there is > one of those too, available through the debian repositories. Both > 2.10.something. Where did you get your 2.8 version from? > > Cliff > > On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 5:26 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 04 October 2020 00:10:53 Rick Strong wrote: > > > Here's an ex cathedra thought: why don't you upgrade to version > > > 2.10? > > > > I grabbed the bz2 srcs about an hour ago but theres too many missing > > dependencies. Is there a downloadble deb that will install of > > stretch? > > > > > Cheers, > > > RS > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > -- > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law > > respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis > > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > ___ > > gimp-user-list mailing list > > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > List membership: > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List > > archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Sunday 04 October 2020 00:18:45 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > I'm using 2.10.20 and it works as I describe above. I have been using > the Gimp since 2.8 and before, and it has always worked that way. > > What version are you using, and did you try what I described or did > you just read it? I tried it, but I also have to figure out the equivalents since 2.8 is different. I could try posting a small screenshot if the server will take it. But not tonight. Its been too long a day already. Where you say the editor shows up on the right, mine shows up at the left border. It has 4 icons in the bottom border, one says save, the next says restore, a trashcan and something on the right I haven't yet identifiedI have not identified. But so far, no one has told me where the save button writes to so I could at least check to see if the button even works since theres zero reaction from clicking on it. Same with the restore button, no reaction and nothing is restored. It might as well be welded to sans, black and 18px, and the 18px makes it worthless. > > How many text layers do you have? Most pix just one string of text. Sometimes 2. > Cliff > > On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 4:33 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 October 2020 21:23:35 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list > > > > wrote: > > > Hm, how many text layers do you have? > > > > > > If I create a text layer I can create it with the particular font > > > and font size. When I create another text layer, I can set the > > > font, etc in the new layer to something different. If I then > > > decide that the font is wrong in the first text layer, and I > > > select that text layer, it comes up with the font and font size > > > that I selected in the first place ie, what it was when I left > > > that layer. If I go back to the other text layer it shows the font > > > and font size that it was when I left THAT layer. > > > > > > So > > > 1) I create a text box/layer (call it One), set the font to > > > something, and the font size to 16 pts. I type something eg One. > > > [I create a text box by clicking on the text tool, and clicking on > > > the canvas.] 2) I create a second text box/layer. (call it Two). I > > > set the font to 64 pts. I type something eg Two. [I create a new > > > text box by clicking somewhere outside the first text box.] > > > 3) I decide that the font size in One is too small. I switch to > > > that text layer [By clicking in the text box.]. *The font size now > > > shows 16 pts*. I change the font size. I don't delete the text. I > > > just change the font size (to say 32 pts). > > > 4) I switch to layer Two. *The font size now shows 64 pts*. > > > 5) If I switch between text layers the font size alternates > > > between 16 and 64 pts. > > > > > > Each 'line of text' is in a separate text layer. Each text layer > > > retains the font, font size and other attributes that it had when > > > you last left it. Any new layer contains the attributes of the > > > previous text layer that you created. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Cliff > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM Rick Strong wrote: > > > > My eyes are nearly 80 years old, I am going blind in one of them > > > > and I can easily read 18 pt type. > > > > Anyway, you need something larger. OK. Try double clicking on > > > > the "A" tool and setting the type specs in the dialogue/tab that > > > > comes up on the right. Screenshot attached. I assume you are > > > > using the latest version. > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Gene Heskett > > > > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 7:38 PM > > > > To: Rick Strong > > > > Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence > > > > > > > > On Friday 02 October 2020 18:36:07 you wrote: > > > > > Gene, > > > > > > > > > > By my reckoning, an 18 px letter is less than 1 pt high on an > > > > > 300 dpi print—virtually invisible. Try setting the text size > > > > > to 18 pts. (POINTS, not pixels) to be legible. > > > > > > > > I have done that, Rick, but 18 pts isn't near big enough for > > > > older eyes either, so you backspace to get rid of the dust > > > > specs, look up to the text box and its reset to 18px. > > > > Frustr
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Sunday 04 October 2020 00:10:53 Rick Strong wrote: > Here's an ex cathedra thought: why don't you upgrade to version 2.10? > I grabbed the bz2 srcs about an hour ago but theres too many missing dependencies. Is there a downloadble deb that will install of stretch? > Cheers, > RS Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Saturday 03 October 2020 21:23:35 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > Hm, how many text layers do you have? > > If I create a text layer I can create it with the particular font and > font size. When I create another text layer, I can set the font, etc > in the new layer to something different. If I then decide that the > font is wrong in the first text layer, and I select that text layer, > it comes up with the font and font size that I selected in the first > place ie, what it was when I left that layer. If I go back to the > other text layer it shows the font and font size that it was when I > left THAT layer. > > So > 1) I create a text box/layer (call it One), set the font to something, > and the font size to 16 pts. I type something eg One. [I create a text > box by clicking on the text tool, and clicking on the canvas.] > 2) I create a second text box/layer. (call it Two). I set the font to > 64 pts. I type something eg Two. [I create a new text box by clicking > somewhere outside the first text box.] > 3) I decide that the font size in One is too small. I switch to that > text layer [By clicking in the text box.]. *The font size now shows 16 > pts*. I change the font size. I don't delete the text. I just change > the font size (to say 32 pts). > 4) I switch to layer Two. *The font size now shows 64 pts*. > 5) If I switch between text layers the font size alternates between 16 > and 64 pts. > > Each 'line of text' is in a separate text layer. Each text layer > retains the font, font size and other attributes that it had when you > last left it. Any new layer contains the attributes of the previous > text layer that you created. > > Cheers, > > Cliff > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM Rick Strong wrote: > > My eyes are nearly 80 years old, I am going blind in one of them and > > I can easily read 18 pt type. > > Anyway, you need something larger. OK. Try double clicking on the > > "A" tool and setting the type specs in the dialogue/tab that comes > > up on the right. Screenshot attached. I assume you are using the > > latest version. > > > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett > > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 7:38 PM > > To: Rick Strong > > Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence > > > > On Friday 02 October 2020 18:36:07 you wrote: > > > Gene, > > > > > > By my reckoning, an 18 px letter is less than 1 pt high on an 300 > > > dpi print—virtually invisible. Try setting the text size to 18 > > > pts. (POINTS, not pixels) to be legible. > > > > I have done that, Rick, but 18 pts isn't near big enough for older > > eyes either, so you backspace to get rid of the dust specs, look up > > to the text box and its reset to 18px. Frustrating is a very weak > > description. You spend 10 minutes bounceing from one place in that > > tool, to another trying to get it to keep what you selected long > > enough to type one line of text. Repeat for every line of text you > > want to overlay on a pix. > > > > > Good luck. > > > > I don't need luck, I need instructions that work, please read my > > whole message. And so far, for all the pontificating here, none of which seems to apply to the 2.8 I am trying to use. That alone is more than ample evidence of the control churn as far as I am concerned. I have changed the font, color and size, then clicked save at the bottom of my tool edit window until I've about wore out the mouse and the save button. But the next time I launch GIMP, its still black, sans, and 18 px. If you can make 2.8 text Just Work so setting one thing does NOT restore the totally useless defaults for everything else, AND the save and restore buttons actually do that, I need the exact sequence of operations that ACTUALLY DO make it work in the 2.8 being published by debian. OR push debian to update it to your version of 2.10 unpatched by debian, don't even allow branding patches. OR setup a repo we can download a WORKING copy of 2.10 or whatever the current version of the day is, from your own servers in .deb format. Take your pick, but please, get your users a WORKING copy of GIMP. 20 years ago I could ask how to do something and get instructions on how to do it that worked. Now its 2020 and all I am getting is claims that it Just Works, without even qualifying the answer with a versiion number or a step by step that does work. > > > RS > > > > My whole point is that there is no way to set the defaults AND > > setting anything else restores the default of 18 px, switches it > > back to sans font, and the selec
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Friday 02 October 2020 21:02:35 Rick Strong wrote: > My eyes are nearly 80 years old, I am going blind in one of them and I > can easily read 18 pt type. Anyway, you need something larger. OK. Try > double clicking on the "A" tool and setting the type specs in the > dialogue/tab that comes up on the right. Screenshot attached. I assume > you are using the latest version. > No, stretch is 2.8, so totally different view, that double-click worked. But the save didn't, on rerunning orvile it was back to 18px. But it seems to have saved for the session, which is a huge help. Thank you. > Rick > > -----Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 7:38 PM > To: Rick Strong > Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence > > On Friday 02 October 2020 18:36:07 you wrote: > > Gene, > > > > By my reckoning, an 18 px letter is less than 1 pt high on an 300 > > dpi print—virtually invisible. Try setting the text size to 18 pts. > > (POINTS, not pixels) to be legible. > > I have done that, Rick, but 18 pts isn't near big enough for older > eyes either, so you backspace to get rid of the dust specs, look up to > the text box and its reset to 18px. Frustrating is a very weak > description. You spend 10 minutes bounceing from one place in that > tool, to another trying to get it to keep what you selected long > enough to type one line of text. Repeat for every line of text you > want to overlay on a pix. > > > Good luck. > > I don't need luck, I need instructions that work, please read my whole > message. > > > RS > > My whole point is that there is no way to set the defaults AND setting > anything else restores the default of 18 px, switches it back to sans > font, and the selected color back to black. Changing ANY of those > settings should change them at the very least for the lifetime of the > current session. ANY TIME YOU CHANGE ONE THING, IT RESETS EVERYTHING > ELSE BACK TO THE DEFAULTS. INCLUDING CHANGING WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IT > BY LEFT CLICKING THE SCREEN WHERE YOU WANT TO START TYPING. And if > your put it here click is too high, the box disappears under the > friggin ruler at the top of the screen so that you can't see if its > decided to restore all the defaults > > Since you have not addressed my main bitch at all, how about telling > us how to change the text defaults to something that IS usable and by > makeing those the defaults, 90% of the frustrations would be > addressed. Maybe _you_ have a sequence that works, but no one has told > the users. Put it in a format I can print and tape to the wall for > next time. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett > > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 5:05 PM > > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > Subject: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence > > > > Greetings all; > > > > I, like Ruben Safir, am A. tired of the lack of good docs, and B. > > the churn in how it works. I just had occasion to caption some pix > > as an aid to my wife who is not a computer whiz, in setting up a > > piano keyboard, and the air was quite blue around me by the time I > > got done because every time I tried to set one option in the text > > panel it reset everything else back to the defaults. And an 18 px > > black character isn't more than a visible dot on an 8x10 printout, > > so I click on the size and add a zero to make 180 px. Then I am > > going to put it in a black area of the printout, so I select the > > color white and hit enter and it resets the size to 18px and the > > font back to sans from sans serif. Thats bs at its finest. So is > > the text box when its under the top ruler and you can't see that its > > decided to reset everything back to the defaults. So please tell me > > the correct sequence of key or mouse strokes to set that up and if > > possible set it as the defaults so I don't have to get so frustrated > > just to add a line or 3 of text captions to a picture. You've made 4 > > hours of very frustrating work out of captioning 6 photo's that > > ought to be 3 minutes plus print time each. If this worked. But > > IMNSHO it sucks dead toads thru soda straws. So please make it > > _Just_Work_, write some docs that tell us how to use it, and then > > stop the churn. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
On Friday 02 October 2020 18:36:07 you wrote: > Gene, > > By my reckoning, an 18 px letter is less than 1 pt high on an 300 dpi > print—virtually invisible. Try setting the text size to 18 pts. > (POINTS, not pixels) to be legible. I have done that, Rick, but 18 pts isn't near big enough for older eyes either, so you backspace to get rid of the dust specs, look up to the text box and its reset to 18px. Frustrating is a very weak description. You spend 10 minutes bounceing from one place in that tool, to another trying to get it to keep what you selected long enough to type one line of text. Repeat for every line of text you want to overlay on a pix. > Good luck. I don't need luck, I need instructions that work, please read my whole message. > RS My whole point is that there is no way to set the defaults AND setting anything else restores the default of 18 px, switches it back to sans font, and the selected color back to black. Changing ANY of those settings should change them at the very least for the lifetime of the current session. ANY TIME YOU CHANGE ONE THING, IT RESETS EVERYTHING ELSE BACK TO THE DEFAULTS. INCLUDING CHANGING WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IT BY LEFT CLICKING THE SCREEN WHERE YOU WANT TO START TYPING. And if your put it here click is too high, the box disappears under the friggin ruler at the top of the screen so that you can't see if its decided to restore all the defaults Since you have not addressed my main bitch at all, how about telling us how to change the text defaults to something that IS usable and by makeing those the defaults, 90% of the frustrations would be addressed. Maybe _you_ have a sequence that works, but no one has told the users. Put it in a format I can print and tape to the wall for next time. > -Original Message----- > From: Gene Heskett > Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 5:05 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: [Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence > > Greetings all; > > I, like Ruben Safir, am A. tired of the lack of good docs, and B. the > churn in how it works. I just had occasion to caption some pix as an > aid to my wife who is not a computer whiz, in setting up a piano > keyboard, and the air was quite blue around me by the time I got done > because every time I tried to set one option in the text panel it > reset everything else back to the defaults. And an 18 px black > character isn't more than a visible dot on an 8x10 printout, so I > click on the size and add a zero to make 180 px. Then I am going to > put it in a black area of the printout, so I select the color white > and hit enter and it resets the size to 18px and the font back to sans > from sans serif. Thats bs at its finest. So is the text box when its > under the top ruler and you can't see that its decided to reset > everything back to the defaults. So please tell me the correct > sequence of key or mouse strokes to set that up and if possible set it > as the defaults so I don't have to get so frustrated just to add a > line or 3 of text captions to a picture. You've made 4 hours of very > frustrating work out of captioning 6 photo's that ought to be 3 > minutes plus print time each. If this worked. But IMNSHO it sucks dead > toads thru soda straws. So please make it _Just_Work_, write some docs > that tell us how to use it, and then stop the churn. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] text mode, need instruct sequence
Greetings all; I, like Ruben Safir, am A. tired of the lack of good docs, and B. the churn in how it works. I just had occasion to caption some pix as an aid to my wife who is not a computer whiz, in setting up a piano keyboard, and the air was quite blue around me by the time I got done because every time I tried to set one option in the text panel it reset everything else back to the defaults. And an 18 px black character isn't more than a visible dot on an 8x10 printout, so I click on the size and add a zero to make 180 px. Then I am going to put it in a black area of the printout, so I select the color white and hit enter and it resets the size to 18px and the font back to sans from sans serif. Thats bs at its finest. So is the text box when its under the top ruler and you can't see that its decided to reset everything back to the defaults. So please tell me the correct sequence of key or mouse strokes to set that up and if possible set it as the defaults so I don't have to get so frustrated just to add a line or 3 of text captions to a picture. You've made 4 hours of very frustrating work out of captioning 6 photo's that ought to be 3 minutes plus print time each. If this worked. But IMNSHO it sucks dead toads thru soda straws. So please make it _Just_Work_, write some docs that tell us how to use it, and then stop the churn. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Unintended post
On Saturday 05 September 2020 02:48:48 Mark Sandridge via gimp-user-list wrote: > Earlier yesterday I thought I was sharing an article with my wife > about a black man who had undergone 6 trials, sentenced to death row, > and was eventually freed by the U.S. Supreme Court after being locked > up for 23 years. Somehow it got sent to GIMP users. So if you got > it, my apologies. I'm not going crazy. I have absolutely no idea how > this happened. > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android That pretty well explains it. > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] VPAT Software Request
On Friday 12 June 2020 08:55:34 Michael Schumacher wrote: > On 6/12/20 2:35 PM, Norbert Preining via gimp-user-list wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, Robert Krawitz wrote: > >> Confirmed; it doesn't render for me either. Two other PDFs I tried > > > > Chrome is **not** a pdf viewer, please use a proper one, there are > > billions out there. > > > > Using a browser from PDF viewing is something like a last resort... > > More like the norm, at least for PDF files which are available online. > > > @Robert: as I wrote in my reply to Gene, it would be nice if you could > file an issue for Chromium (or contribute to an existing one, if > there's one already), to make sure that the Chromium developers know > about this and can examine it. As for my raising a bug, sorry but my Missus is in the shop with end stage copd, and I don't have time to fool with it. All I was doing is reporting the failure, and with Michaels help took the odt, re-exported it as a pdf, and chromium then displayed it properly. That tells me something is wrong with the pdf. And that it can be fixed by reloading the odt and re-exporting it to a proper pdf format. > > -- > Regards, > Michael > GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] VPAT Software Request
On Friday 12 June 2020 08:33:47 Michael Schumacher wrote: > On 6/12/20 2:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 12 June 2020 04:15:49 Michael Schumacher wrote: > >> On 6/12/20 9:57 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> On Friday 12 June 2020 03:33:01 Alexandre Prokoudine via > >>> gimp-user-list > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Please see https://www.gimp.org/about/ITI-VPAT.pdf > >>> > >>> Page does not render in chromium. > >> > >> That's a PDF file, IIRC created with LibreOffice. Are there any > >> known issues that Chromium has displaying such files? > > > > Not that I'm aware of Michael. Other 'pdf's have worked fine. This > > opens a 1 page screen with a little square in the center, and stops, > > nothing else and I gave it a couple minutes. I just looked in > > chromiums perfs, but did not see a "file" reporter at 1st glance. > > You could file a bug for Chromium and have them examine what, if > anything, is the issue with the file and/or Chromium. > The PDF works with Firefox. > > The original ODT and a DOC version are available as well: > > https://www.gimp.org/about/ITI-VPAT.odt clicking on this, also opens a blank page, with the .odt name in the lower left corner. double-clicking on that opens libreoffice and shows it, and will export a ITI.VPAT(1).pdf that chromiun can display just fine. > https://www.gimp.org/about/ITI-VPAT.doc I didn't try this .doc link. Point being that a good .pdf just works, this doesn't without loading the .odt and reprocessing it. > Could be that simply exporting the ODT to PDF with LibreOffice will > now create a PDF file Chromium does like, maybe you could try this? > > -- > Regards, > Michael > GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] VPAT Software Request
On Friday 12 June 2020 04:15:49 Michael Schumacher wrote: > On 6/12/20 9:57 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 12 June 2020 03:33:01 Alexandre Prokoudine via > > gimp-user-list > > > > wrote: > >> Please see https://www.gimp.org/about/ITI-VPAT.pdf > > > > Page does not render in chromium. > > That's a PDF file, IIRC created with LibreOffice. Are there any known > issues that Chromium has displaying such files? > Not that I'm aware of Michael. Other 'pdf's have worked fine. This opens a 1 page screen with a little square in the center, and stops, nothing else and I gave it a couple minutes. I just looked in chromiums perfs, but did not see a "file" reporter at 1st glance. > -- > Regards, > Michael > GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] VPAT Software Request
On Friday 12 June 2020 03:33:01 Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:49 AM Godswill Peter via gimp-user-list > > wrote: > > Good afternoon; > > > > My name is Godswill Peter and I work for the Texas A > > University Engineering and Experiment Station as a student > > assistant, I hope this email finds you well. I am emailing you to > > request the VPAT for your software (GIMP), as it is required that > > all software we use here at Texas A University has their own VPAT. > > Please get back to me as soon as possible. > > Please see https://www.gimp.org/about/ITI-VPAT.pdf Page does not render in chromium. > Alex > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-print-devel] 'tis the season
On Thursday 01 November 2018 20:23:07 Solomon Peachy wrote: > Just as an FYI.. > > On Tuesday, my entire group at $dayjob was RIF'd. My last official > day will be the 1st of December, but things will probably be wrapped > up well before that. >From a list lurker of many years reading your helpfull posts. Ouch, bean counters at work I assume, but I've noted that they are never RIF'd. > As for what's next, I'm casting a wide net.. > > - Solomon That, as another old hacker friend named JoAnne Dow has said, sucks dead toads thru soda straws. Good luck finding another gig, Solomon, and thanks for all the fish. Take care, and let us know where the next $dayjob takes you. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image
On Sunday 12 August 2018 18:21:33 nickib wrote: > >I had a friend play with both the iPhone images and the camera images > >using Lightroom. Would it be ok if I uploaded both the RAW (KDC) > >images and the ones she edited to get a better idea of what > >enlargement IS possible? I’m at the point where even if I cannot use > >it for the 48x24 size it’s too beautiful to not do something with it! > >I appreciate any help! Thanks. > > Here is one that was taken from my camera and edited in Lightroom. I > have no idea how large this would be able to be printed. Do you? Is > there anywhere online I can submit several pictures to see how large > they can be made without losing quality? I really want to use this > picture somehow! Thanks again. > > Attachments: > * > http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/991/original/Nicki_Sunset_ >Picture_1_(Favorite).jpg 404, you cannot use a parenthesis in the url. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-print-devel] Adding support for CUPS command files
ASL2.0 > >> relicensing. > > > > Well, this is exactly what CUPS itself is doing, and I don't want to > > duplicate that work. Hopefully CUPS will provide the tools needed > > to implement the IPP server. > > > >> But speaking of licenses, that level of tight integration would > >> likely be an issue. Neither the ASL2.0 licensed current CUPS nor > >> the GPLv2-only older CUPS are directly compatible with Gutenprint's > >> current GPLv2+ distribution. > > > > Well, GPL2+ is directly compatible with both GPL2 and Apache2. The > > problem occurs if GPL2 and Apache2 are mixed. You might recall that > > we went through the Gutenprint source and ensured that everything > > was licensed GPL2+. > > That's good! > > (and we have some stuff in the works to address GPL2 compatibility, > too...) > > _ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-print-devel] Adding support for CUPS command files
On Wednesday 02 May 2018 08:14:11 Solomon Peachy wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 10:13:12AM +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote: > > https://github.com/apple/cups/issues/5271 > > so that adding support for CUPS command files > > seems to be a non future proof way. > > Relying on CUPS in any way is non-future-proof, because everything > that doesn't relate to being an IPP *client* has been deprecated, with > no intention of developing a replacement for any sort of > locally-attached printer. > > Meanwhile, CUPS (and cups-filters and PPDs and everything else that > CUPS has tossed or is tossing into the rubbish bin) remains the only > way to get printers that lack IPP support (ie the overwhemling > majority of what's out there, especially in the non-consumer-focused > space) to act as anything other than expensive paperweights. > Damn! I know Michael from way back in the late '80's, and when he sold himself to Apple, my alarm bells went off. And it appears they were right. We are being microshafted. > So there are only two viable long-term paths forward for folks like > us: > > * Fork CUPS when it finally drops the deprecated stuff and carry on > as before. Note that this has already happened, resulting in > 'cups-filters'. * Develop a complete IPP server implementation that > natively interfaces with libgutenprint (as opposed to the CUPS PPD > API) This is a _huge_ undertaking that will require re-creating a > sizeable chunk of what CUPS [used to] provide. (eg job spooling, > network daemon including a proper http server, image/PDL > decode/conversion including things like N-up and manual copy and > collation support, general option enumeration and parsing, and so > forth..) > > As an aside, every proprietary OSX printer driver I've seen is in a > similar predicament, because they are also entirely dependent on > deprecated CUPS functionality. > > Meanwhile. Fully implementating the CommandFile stuff in Gutenprint > will yield several bits of internal plumbing that are necessary to > provide proper IPP functionality: > > * Reporting printer options (eg what hardware options are >present, or what kind/quantity of media is loaded) > * Setting driver defaults based on printer options > * Reporting printer status (job status, errors, counter, etc) > * Invoking printer commands (eg self-test, cleaning, alignment..) > > Some of these things exist but in an ad-hoc manner (typically > requiring use of external cmdline tools that don't integrate with > anything else). Plus, simply implementing the first will yield > immediate benefits with modern Linux desktop environments. The latter seems like the only way foward. But do you have the people resources that will take? I have benefitted greatly from cups, so if you have to crowdfund the help, count on me for a small donation, I'm on SS, but that doesn't cancel TANSTAAFL. > - Solomon -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.10.0-RC1 released
On Tuesday 27 March 2018 00:29:37 Elle Stone wrote: > On 03/26/2018 08:02 PM, Michael Natterer wrote: > > There is also a release announcement onwww.gimp.org > > with screenshots of new features: > > > > https://gimp.org/news/2018/03/26/gimp-2-10-rc1-released/ > > At least on my computer, above link leads to 404 page. Same here. > This link works: > > https://www.gimp.org/news/2018/03/26/gimp-2-10-0-rc1-released/ > > Oh, and yeah! 2.10 release candidate! > > Best, > Elle > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Can't insert text in text box, draws box but insists on 0 pixels or pts.
On Sunday 17 December 2017 15:13:33 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 17 December 2017 14:21:51 Steve Kinney wrote: > > Has anybody seen or heard of the behavior described below > > (multi-broken text tool, bizarre 'pencil' tool behavior)? It's all > > new to me. > > > > My first suggestion would be to remove the GIMP, rename or delete > > the .gimp file in the /home directory, and install the latest > > available version from the repos. Because I don't /think/ anything > > external to the GIMP itself could cause those diverse failure modes. > > > > :o/ > > I'll do that and advise. Thank you Steve Kinney. I used synaptic to completely remove it and 4 or so plugins. Then did an rm -fR .gimp. An ls -la showed nothing named .gimp. Then I reinstalled, which created a new .gimp-2.8 directory, dated today. So I may have not deleted the . directory. I'll repeat, because when I opened it, it was exactly as I closed it yesterday, including the opened pencil config tool. Humm, that .gimp-2.8 directory did not want to be removed, but I finally did get it gone. Then a 2nd reinstall sure changed its looks. Got tools and brushes menu's that look more like what I was semi used to 5 years ago. Now I'll have to see if it actually works as advertised. :) Thanks. Ok, got a text inserted, but the pencil is best described as out of lead, small circle I can wave around to amuse myself, but pressing the left mouse button for freehand drawing does not draw anything, anyplace, in any selected color, size or weight.. I'll try the paintbrush. Nope, paintbrush is out of paint. Next? Thanks Steve Kinney. [...] Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Can't insert text in text box, draws box but insists on 0 pixels or pts.
On Sunday 17 December 2017 14:21:51 Steve Kinney wrote: > Has anybody seen or heard of the behavior described below > (multi-broken text tool, bizarre 'pencil' tool behavior)? It's all > new to me. > > My first suggestion would be to remove the GIMP, rename or delete the > .gimp file in the /home directory, and install the latest available > version from the repos. Because I don't /think/ anything external to > the GIMP itself could cause those diverse failure modes. > > :o/ I'll do that and advise. Thank you Steve Kinney. > > On 12/16/2017 08:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > debian wheezy, up to date as of right now. gimp-2.8.2 > > > > I call up gimp to add some arrows and text boxes to some pix I want > > to use in an article for the linuxcnc wiki. > > > > I load the pix, then select the big A in the single column, screen+ > > height tool list, (I could mutter at length about that) set the font > > to hack bold, and its size to 64 pixels. Then go click on the spot I > > want the text to start at. get a 4square box, and what I thought was > > the text entry requester just above it. > > > > But no matter what I type in what I think is the text entry window > > of a teeny requester, the 4 adjoining squares indicating where the > > text should go, remain stuck to each other and it doesn't help to > > pull it out for what should be a suitably sized box, nothing shows > > up, and the duplicate text size selection stays at zero. And if I > > hover the mouse over that box it tells me its for font adjustments. > > So I crank the multiselector to 64 pixels, re-enter hack bold in the > > box of the requester then click on the pix and once I was able to > > see the 3 three characters I typed, but if I leave that area of the > > pix to click on an increase or decrease arrow make the text larger > > or smaller, everything is cleared and the font is reset to sans 18, > > and the text that was visible is cleared, so nothing actually makes > > it into the picture and even the undo selector stays greyed out. > > > > What the hell folks? Why is it so adamant about the font being sans > > and size 0 or 18 despite what I have set, and why can't I go back > > and forth, adjusting it to do what I want without its clearing out > > all previous settings, including reverting the box I drug out to a > > suitable size back to the 4square target. > > > > So I'm again lost, have to learn how to use gimp all over again. How > > about a stable interface, one that works like it did 15 years ago, > > and works the same this year, and works the same next year? > > > > So how DO I insert caption text into a picture with this 2.8.2 > > version? > > > > Next I suppose I get the text installed, then try to draw a freehand > > arrow connecting the text to the part being discussed in the > > accompanying text, and find that been changed too? > > Just to check, the pencil only has one color, random. Set it for 50% > > transparency and draw, looks line a line of spilled glitter, each > > pixel a different color. Spit, undo. > > > > Sheesh. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Can't insert text in text box, draws box but insists on 0 pixels or pts.
Greetings all; debian wheezy, up to date as of right now. gimp-2.8.2 I call up gimp to add some arrows and text boxes to some pix I want to use in an article for the linuxcnc wiki. I load the pix, then select the big A in the single column, screen+ height tool list, (I could mutter at length about that) set the font to hack bold, and its size to 64 pixels. Then go click on the spot I want the text to start at. get a 4square box, and what I thought was the text entry requester just above it. But no matter what I type in what I think is the text entry window of a teeny requester, the 4 adjoining squares indicating where the text should go, remain stuck to each other and it doesn't help to pull it out for what should be a suitably sized box, nothing shows up, and the duplicate text size selection stays at zero. And if I hover the mouse over that box it tells me its for font adjustments. So I crank the multiselector to 64 pixels, re-enter hack bold in the box of the requester then click on the pix and once I was able to see the 3 three characters I typed, but if I leave that area of the pix to click on an increase or decrease arrow make the text larger or smaller, everything is cleared and the font is reset to sans 18, and the text that was visible is cleared, so nothing actually makes it into the picture and even the undo selector stays greyed out. What the hell folks? Why is it so adamant about the font being sans and size 0 or 18 despite what I have set, and why can't I go back and forth, adjusting it to do what I want without its clearing out all previous settings, including reverting the box I drug out to a suitable size back to the 4square target. So I'm again lost, have to learn how to use gimp all over again. How about a stable interface, one that works like it did 15 years ago, and works the same this year, and works the same next year? So how DO I insert caption text into a picture with this 2.8.2 version? Next I suppose I get the text installed, then try to draw a freehand arrow connecting the text to the part being discussed in the accompanying text, and find that been changed too? Just to check, the pencil only has one color, random. Set it for 50% transparency and draw, looks line a line of spilled glitter, each pixel a different color. Spit, undo. Sheesh. Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] how to change image resolution without effecting scale within the image itself using gimp as in retaining the roundness of the moon
On Sunday 26 March 2017 14:12:59 Scott Jacobs via gimp-user-list wrote: > I see you did actually crop some off the top, bottom and sides... > > Did you notice that the artist's signature is almost completely gone? That, to me, is sort of a no-no. I'd try to pick that up and move it back to full visibility in the corner of the finished work so the original artist can see that you honored his copyright as opposed to the cutoff. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-print-devel] Does company have driver for HP laser jet 5P to connect to Sierra version 10.12.3
On Tuesday 21 March 2017 08:56:05 seymour srulowitz wrote: > HP no longer supports their laser jet 5P and apple support can’t help. > I connected parallel port to printer and USB port to Mac and computer > recognizes the 5p but says its offline > That sounds like your cable might not be a 1284 spec cable, missing connections only a printer uses. > Tsk/Seymour > seymou...@gmail.com <mailto:seymou...@gmail.com> > C-917-692-0862 Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] how to darken bright areas
On Thursday 05 January 2017 18:18:08 paulhurm wrote: > OK, I'm replying to myself here and will attach my recent before and > after work for comments. > > I will post details of steps if anyone is interested but basically I > relied on GMIC tools to achieve what I have here. Luckily, if I decide > that this process might be worth pursuing with the rest of the photos, > it is a fairly easy set of steps. > > To my eye at least, the after shot does a pretty good job of toning > down the white areas that I complained about. You can still tell that > the image is degraded but at least they are not so bright and > distracting to the eye. If you look at the middle guy's chest area you > will see that my result does not solve the problem of lost detail and > I don't expect there to be any way to regain what has been lost. That > is just what I have to accept. > > I just wish the negatives had survived! My 93 year old aunt did not > even know this album existed when I showed it to her for the first > time so it apparently is something that my grandfather put away and > never displayed. She has no idea what ever might have happened to the > negatives so I don't ever expect to find them at this point. OTOH, I > did actually find 2 negatives mixed in with other more recent photos > my grandfather took which have survived, so I think the disappearance > happened later rather than that they never made it home from France. > > I'm still definitely willing to listen to any other advise anyone has > but please take a look at my two attachments "Original" being the > original scan and "Method 1" being my GMIC work. Comments > appreciated!!! > > Paul > I'd have to say that is a marked improvement. > > Attachments: > * > http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/432/original/Original.tif > * > http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/433/original/Method_1.tif Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] how to darken bright areas
On Wednesday 04 January 2017 21:02:15 paulhurm wrote: > >I do have a bit of this already done. I do have each photograph as > >individual scans, both with and without the captions and I am not too > >worried right now about the final "reassembly". My current desire is > >just to get the issue resolved with the quality of the prints. I > >already have ideas about "reassembly" but not worrying about this > > step until I get better quality images. > > > >As mentioned, I had a few steps accomplished once before but can't > >remember what I had done. I still seem to recall having used an addin > >somehow and playing around with luminance so that comment by you > > helps validate some of my current thinking. > > > >I think my next step might have to be to try to go through the > > various lists of addins to see if I can find one that might help or > > perhaps stumble upon what I used before. > > > >I'm way too green to develop my own filter as you suggested above > >although the concept you described seems good. I kind of had that > >accomplished in the previous attempt where I did get the desired > > areas separated onto a separate layer. It's just that I now have no > > idea what I did to get to that point. Thus my post hoping for > > suggestions!! > > > >Thanks. > > > >Paul > > Gene, > > And... > > I just went back out and read a bit about RGB vs CMYK. I have never > gotten far enough along with graphics programs to have had to worry > about this but obviously now I do. As a former physics teacher I have > been exposed to RGB much more than CMYK. > > Just one more topic I have to go out to learn!!! > > Paul Chuckle... Make the connection with RGB in the video realm, where its all additive. So much red, so much green, and so much blue is white. Hence its RGB. In the video realm, its basically a matter of ajusting each colors gain once black is established, to get a pleasing white on the video screen. THis is RGB. OTOH, The print realm is all subtractive, the Cyan reflecting green and blue but absorbing red,, the Magenta reflecting red and blue but absorbing green, the yellow reflecting red and green while absorbing blue, and K is the combined luminance expressed as the density, hence the CMYK designation. One, RGB references just barely visible as black, while CMYK references the base color of the whiteish paper as its white, and inks are laid down to subtract the RGB from the white. And often, to save the expensive colored inks, the blackest areas will get a reduced amount of color in favor of getting a more consistent black by useing black to build the density needed with far less ink. Neither method can at the end of the day, represent the complete color spectrum the human eye (with good color vision) can see, but generally can be tweaked to do a decent job in the center 2/3rds of that color chart we've all seen in the past few decades. Thats not all of it, but thats about as simplicated as I can make it. I hope this helps. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] how to darken bright areas
On Wednesday 04 January 2017 18:58:20 paulhurm wrote: > >On Wednesday 04 January 2017 14:57:07 paulhurm wrote: > >I don't know as I would call it silver creep. What it is chemically, > >it > >that the developer blacked silver, because of inadequate washing, has > >reverted to the silver. > > > >I haven't personally seen enough of this to consider the obvious > >solution, which would be to develop it again, with a modern > > developer, Dektol if you can find it, perhaps even D-23 which ypu > > have to make yourself, then a weak acetic acid stop bath for perhaps > > a minute to neutralize the calcium carbonate accelerator in the > > developer, then refix to get rid of any residual silver, 3 or 5 > > minutes, then wash in running tap water for half an hour or more to > > remove the fixer, all at temps of 68 degrees or so. 75 works faster > > if you can muster up the warm > >water fast enough. Then let air dry for at least an hour. I would > > not use a heated dryer for that because it will take on the gloss > > from its hard chromed surface. That will interfere with the > > scanning. > > > >Yeah, I'm an old fart of 82 now, but I helped in the darkroom at my > >local > >weekly fishwrap since about 1947, and had my owm chemical darkroom, > >B > >and Color printing, for nearly 35 years starting in the late '60's. > > So I > >know a wee bit about this. And while I have never done this, I'd > > sure take one you could waste and see if this proceedure would help > > mitigate > >the effects of the aging. Locating the chemistry supply in 2017 will > >take a determined search. > >Cheers, Gene Heskett > > This discussion would probably be helpful in different circumstances > but won't help with the ones I am faced with. > > I really want help with the scans so I did not give other details that > should show that any further processing of these prints in not > possible. > > I am actually working with photographs that are mounted into an album, > not separate prints. This album is the "old style" with black paper > pages onto which the photos were glued. Doing anything to re-wet would > most likely destroy this album which should obviously be out of the > question. > The black paper, and the glue, totally preclude any thoughts of its being an archival quality mounting medium. There is some acid in all that stuff that old. So you must do what can be done with the scans you have. > Another aspect that I did not mention in my original post is that each > of these pages has hand written captions next to each photo. Again, > any wetting would probably destroy these which is also not acceptable. > > For others who may read this, again, I need help on how to work with > the current scans I have. I am also not willing to do any re-scanning > since some of the captions seem to be deteriorating and I don't want > to handle the pages any more that is absolutely necessary. > > Thanks. > > Paul You it appears, are truely between a rock, and a hard place. The only other possible procedure would involved crafting a very narrow band color filter, centered on the silvery tint, which might be further filtered to recover its luminance detail, and re-add that detail to the K channel of a cmyk encoded copy of the original scan. I doubt that it could be scripted because of the variations in the aging of the individual print. Under the conditions you describe, you would probaby have to separate each print on the page into its own file for individual processing. You would need to develop a filenameing convention that included the page it was on, the upper left corner position marker, and the images own size, including any captions involved, so that once they were recovered as best as can be done, a relatively simple script could put it back together with everything in its original location for then making a single page image that could then be printed at high enough resolution that other researchers could learn from it. I don't envy that position... How about you make an "unsharp mask", crank up the contrast, then print with the unsharp mask subtracted to reduce the contrast back to maybe 20% more than you started with? That might find usable detail you cannot see very well now. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] how to darken bright areas
On Wednesday 04 January 2017 14:57:07 paulhurm wrote: > I have several hundred World War One era photographs I am working with > that my grandfather took during his service with the Army Medical > Corps. I have no negatives so I am working with nearly 100 year old > B prints. I have scanned all of these but my scans have problems, > one major is discussed here with the hope of getting some suggestions. > > Many of these prints have undergone “silver creep” where the silver > particles have migrated through the emulsion. Of course, these places > have lost at least some of the detail that was there. When looking at > the prints, these areas appear dark but if held at the right angle > light will reflect off of them and they appear bright. When scanned > these areas mostly appear white and are annoying to look and detract > the eye away from what detail remains. > I don't know as I would call it silver creep. What it is chemically, it that the developer blacked silver, because of inadequate washing, has reverted to the silver. I haven't personally seen enough of this to consider the obvious solution, which would be to develop it again, with a modern developer, Dektol if you can find it, perhaps even D-23 which ypu have to make yourself, then a weak acetic acid stop bath for perhaps a minute to neutralize the calcium carbonate accelerator in the developer, then refix to get rid of any residual silver, 3 or 5 minutes, then wash in running tap water for half an hour or more to remove the fixer, all at temps of 68 degrees or so. 75 works faster if you can muster up the warm water fast enough. Then let air dry for at least an hour. I would not use a heated dryer for that because it will take on the gloss from its hard chromed surface. That will interfere with the scanning. Yeah, I'm an old fart of 82 now, but I helped in the darkroom at my local weekly fishwrap since about 1947, and had my owm chemical darkroom, B and Color printing, for nearly 35 years starting in the late '60's. So I know a wee bit about this. And while I have never done this, I'd sure take one you could waste and see if this proceedure would help mitigate the effects of the aging. Locating the chemistry supply in 2017 will take a determined search. > My goal for this post is to ask for ideas on how to darken these light > areas so they are less distractive. I know there is no hope of > recovering detail but if these light areas could be darkened I think > it would greatly improve the view. > > The example I hope to attach shows the problem quite well. Around the > top and right side in particular you should see the problem. When the > photo is zoomed in on these areas you can actually see what almost > look like bubbles or clumps of silver. > > Here is my current thinking as to one approach to darken these areas. > A year or so ago I achieved partial success but my notes were one of > the things that I could not recover after a hard disk crash. Also, my > memory is shot so I am starting from scratch. > > I am asking for help on what steps to take to achieve the following > again. > > 1 – At one point I was able to get most of the bright spots isolated > and on a separate layer. I had just the spots isolated but can’t > recall how. I think I might have been messing with luminosity and I > think had used an add-in but no clue now. > > 2 – My plan was to then turn the separated spots dark instead of > light. I was then going to work with layers, put the spot layer > underneath and adjust transparency of the upper layer to try to blend > them together. Is this a reasonable idea? > > I have a lot of learning to do so as much detail as possible on > suggested processes will be appreciated. I will also have to learn how > to handle transparency layers for step 2 but I think I can figure that > out without too much trouble. > > Again, any thoughts about this process overall will be greatly > appreciated. Will my thoughts work? Is there a much better way? Any > suggestions on add-ins to try, etc. > > You can get a little better feel for the overall project and see some > additional photographs at any of the below sites. > > Thank you very much for any help!!! > > Paul Hurm > paulh...@gmail.com > > http://typicalfrenchkiddies.tumblr.com/ > > https://www.facebook.com/TypicalFrenchKiddies > > http://www.typicalfrenchkiddies.com/ > No photos on this site but the Introduction may be of interest. > > > Attachments: > * > http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/431/original/p48_TEST_GRAY >.tif Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.n
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-print-devel] Brother HL-1430 brother-hl-1430
On Wednesday 07 December 2016 06:15:23 Andreas Rothbart wrote: > Hi, > > > > are there any known issues about the Brother HL-1430 support? I tried > to install it on my Raspi in vain. The printer is recognized, woken up > from standby, but doesn't print! > > > > Thanks for help! > Andreas Have you been to the Brother support site to search for linux drivers? I am running 2 Brother printers here, and both are running on Brother supplied drivers. Once properly installed, they show up and are selectable in the web based configuration you see when you send a browser to . OTOH, I haven't looked at that on the raspi I have. I should because I'll need to be able to print from it as I develop the software to drive a cnc'd lathe. I'll do that when I get to the garage where the machine is at. For some reason I can't run the chromium-browser from an ssh -Y login from here. "Can't open nouveau driver" which this machine uses. But it does draw the window outline, and I can click on its close button from here and it goes away clean. FWIW, all my printers are either networked, or driven from this machine, so if you have x86 hardware to put the drivers into, and hook the printers up to the x86 machine, its generally a just works situation although you may have to go into the cups.conf file and enable browsing of your local network. Print jobs go thru this x86 machine the way I'm setup. IOW, this machine, even though the brother is networked, does the sharing. So this machine drives the networked printer. So the data path would be over the local network to this machine and rendered by the brother drivers here, and then fed back over the network to that printers address. Sounds complex, but cups handles it all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Remove shine
On Saturday 20 August 2016 03:30:44 Steve Kinney wrote: > On 08/20/2016 03:07 AM, David Holland wrote: > > I take photos of wildlife and with beetles I have a lot of > > reflection, is there an easy to remove this? IMG_8352beetle > > Hey David, > > The photo didn't make it through to the list, alas - posting the URL > rather than a formatted link should bring it through. > > Just as a guess it sounds like you will need to "paint over" the > unwanted reflestions in the images, replacing them with realistic > textures and contours that fit into the surrounding image smoothly. > > Depending on the situation, resynthesizer tools like Heal Selection > might be exactly what you want: That particular filter samples the > image around the selection, and uses the color, texture etc. of those > pixels to smoothly fill the selection. The Heal tool - a clone tool > that does a similar trick to blend the cloned-in pixels with the > existing ones - sometimes also comes in handy for removing smaller > "visual clutter" from an image. > > These tools are available in the gimp-plugin-registry package on .deb > family (and I would bet .rpm) repositories. I'm not sure if it's in > the Windows binary distribution or has to be downloaded separately. > > You might get different and/or better advice when we have seen your > example image. > > :o) > > Steve > The specular reflections cn be spread out so the details won't get lost by carrying a big silver umbrella the flash is aimed into. With the umbrellas silver surface, the power of the flash will be more widely dispersed, and while you'll still see the gloss, it will be distributed over a much wider area, and not near as bright as it is using the bare flash, which is nearly a point source. Check in Popular Phography magazine for dealers who still actually service the photo arts. They used to come in a wide variety of sizes, and one that opens to 3 or more foot diameter, with a tripod to position it and a pad to mount the flash to, should help give you a lot better image quality. Too many times the image is overexposed and details lost when doing digital photography. I used to do portraits with high contrast copy film developed in d-23 to lower the contrast, and was pleasantly amazed at the difference a pair of big umbrellas made, negatives miss-exposed by half a stop or more were still usable in the darkroom when making the prints. HCC film will display every failure of your cameras lens in glorious black and white, but if you get it right, you can count every hair and skin pore in a print you shot from 6 or 7 feet away. Doing my own color printing in the darkroom with chemical processes, I found it quite easy to make color prints that beat digital for sharpness by at least 50 times unless you spend several thousand just for the camera body. Todays $200 digital camera is the box brownie of the 1940's, with a slightly better lens. Sadly, that technology, and the precision art form it could do, has been destroyed by the nearly instant digital photography print. Supplies for that method of taking a picture have dried up, and I read someplace, several years ago where Kodak had shut down the last film production line. Fuji might still be making some but I haven't checked in 2 decades. Mmmm, I guess I am showing my age aren't I? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha
On Saturday 23 July 2016 08:34:28 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 7/22/16, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > > Greetings all > > > > I did, after 20 minutes of screwing around, finally get it to use a > > selected foreground color for the text. > > > > But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire > > up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the > > "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, > > got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at > > your service, NOT. > > > > Anyway, the next problem is that I can't find a tool that will let > > me draw freehand lines so I can make a few arrows that point from a > > line of text to a feature in the image. Or maybe even draw a > > balloon around the text pointing at the feature. > > Hi.. CC'ing GIMP User, but I don't know if it will go through. So if > this does go through.. Hey All, HUGE FAN for *MANY* years, #ThankYou! > That said, I JUST yesterday stumbled on something that mostly > accomplished this although it wasn't quite what I was looking for > myself. > > In the one toolbar that pops up with "CTRL-B (I think that's it, not > near that laptop to verify), I double click on the pen icon which > brings up selections of various pen types, shapes. For me in whatever > version is in Sid Unstable, there's a horizontal line choice near the > top of the pen shapes. > > Once clicked, I was offered the option to change its horizontal > thickness (not its length that I noticed, anyway). For what I was > doing, I liked its effect because its final thickness varied with how > you dragged it across screen. If that doesn't fit your need, maybe one > of the other shapes while get you what you need. I tried that exact sequence, several times, but when I tried to click on the path points, I never did get the bar drawn because I could not find a way out out the click points mode, getting all sorts of zig-zag-zig lines that were never drawn, but could be undone. I suspect there is a way, but with the docs so damned ancient, was it worth trying to read that lengthy tome from the top to find it. At my age, 81, I am conscious of makeing something of my remaining time, whether its another 25 years or another 5 minutes. However, the arrow script someone sent me a link to (thank you someone!) had an option to delete the path when it was drawn, so with it checked, I could click the ending and starting points of the arrow, call the script and click OK, and it was done, so I could move to the next place I wanted an arrow, set the two points using the path tool, wash, rinse and repeat, Nice. I was able to finish the last of about 17 pix in half an hour this morning. gimp should work that way "out of the box". And I just found the 2.8.2 docs online, with the gimp browser. But it won't let me download them so I can update mine. That, seriously needs fixed. OTOH, firefox was also able to locate a tar.bz2 of 152 megs so its pouring in now. Done in fact. Now to see if it has an install script. This may take a few, so I'll snip and send > That last little popup after double clicking the pen was a > hit-and-miss find in last couple years. Kind of a hail Mary deal where > that little window no longer was present where I remembered it used to > just be there by magic ages ago. May be a preference setting I'm just > missing. The hail Mary was I double clicked that icon as a desperate > last play, and that window popped up = WOOHOO! :D > > Good luck! > > Cindy (Sue) It might be getting better Cindy, take care now. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Next gotcha
On Saturday 23 July 2016 05:41:29 Michael Schumacher wrote: > On 07/22/2016 10:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire > > up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the > > "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, > > got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at > > your service, NOT. > > Well, actually you are not up-to-date at all - this is because you > choose to run the oldstable Debian release. > > This also means you're missing most of the bug fixes that have > happened in 2.8 since 2.8.2 has been released (minus some security > fixes, maybe). > > > Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I > > back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time? > > You should check whether you can and want to upgrade to a more current > Debian release. Or, in train terms: check if you want to board a train > that is actually going somewhere, instead of the museum train that's > running around in circles on its closed track. True, but I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC, which has a need for a real time capable kernel. The guys are working on it but so far have not managed to get good enough IRQ response with kernels post 3.4.9-55 to run stepper motors direct, they have to be delegated to specialized control cards that run from $90 to 3 or 400, depending on the complexity of the machine being controlled. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Next gotcha
Greetings all I did, after 20 minutes of screwing around, finally get it to use a selected foreground color for the text. But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at your service, NOT. Anyway, the next problem is that I can't find a tool that will let me draw freehand lines so I can make a few arrows that point from a line of text to a feature in the image. Or maybe even draw a balloon around the text pointing at the feature. Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install
On Friday 22 July 2016 05:32:40 Joel Rees wrote: > Hmm. I think I'll try putting text into a fresh image. > > (Sorry about the double pump. Blame it on the gmail web client. One of > these days, I'm going to divorce myself from big money's freebies, but > not today.) > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > > On Friday 22 July 2016 01:22:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Friday 22 July 2016 00:03:22 Rick Strong wrote: > >> > Make sure the SIZE is NOT in Px (pixels). Use Pt (points) or > >> > something bigger. Also make sure TYPE COLOUR (COLOR) is not black > >> > on black or white on white. Make it yellow; you can always change > >> > it later. > >> > > >> > Rick > >> > >> Nothing I change there makes it to the image. > >> > >> Snapshot attached. smunched to 63kb. > > > > And stripped by the server. How the heck do you expect your users > > to be able to show you whats gone aglay? > > > >> Thanks Rick. > >> > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: Gene Heskett > >> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:43 PM > >> > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > >> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install > >> > > >> > On Thursday 21 July 2016 22:28:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > . . . > >> > Ok, rebooted, and now I have the text box, but nothing I do to or > >> > in it, shows up in the image within the image box outline I've > >> > pulled out to a quite decent size. > >> > > >> > Did I miss another memo? > >> > > >> > Thanks for the speedy reply, Akkana. > >> > > >> > Cheers, Gene Heskett > >> > >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > -- > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > ___ > > gimp-user-list mailing list > > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > List membership: > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List > > archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > > Pardon the allt-the-way-to-the-bottom-post, but I'm responding to the > thread, not any particuar comment. > > I just made a new image, everything at default, with v. 2.8.2. > > Selected the text tool and clicked at a random point in the image. > > Boy is that interface ugly. Patent issues, maybe? > > I got an editing layer that is way too small to type anything in > unless I'm using a zero point font, and a text attributes widget with > the font/typeface selecter blank and the size set to 0px. Really > useful, eh? References to the teats on a boar hog come to mind. I tried all sorts of left and right clicks on the various icons in that teeny little window, and could not bring up a font selection requester. I get the impression it may not be finding its "default" font. > So I stretched out the text editing layer and clicked inside it and > started typing, and I got a default sans font/typeface at 18 px, Thats smallish for what I want to do. I could type into the text window of this interface, got a usable typeface, at about 18 px, but as I said, the only thing that shows up on the image area is that draggable outline. And the first uppercase character typed brings up some sort of a multiselector requester that looks as if its a users language for a lengthy list of what I take are foreign languages to me, but this list does not contain any names that suggest common American English, so I didn't select any of them and the requester goes away when the second character has been typed in the way too small text entry line of the text popup. What is this text editing layer you refer to? I cannot find that in any of the pulldown menu's. > And I can type within that layer, once I start typing. > > Any clues in that for you? Possibly. I'll select one of those strange names and see what happens. I use Hack as my goto font, and selected Hack Bold, color set to bright green. Clicked in the drawing outline on the image, and typed a character. The font displayed instantly changes to sans at about 1 pixel, and my bright green color selection is replaced by black. And I see a teeny tiny orange dot where I clicked. So small I cannot reselect it to do a back space. So, type what I want, swipe select it with the mouse and change it to Hack Bold & bright green
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install
On Friday 22 July 2016 01:22:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 22 July 2016 00:03:22 Rick Strong wrote: > > Make sure the SIZE is NOT in Px (pixels). Use Pt (points) or > > something bigger. Also make sure TYPE COLOUR (COLOR) is not black on > > black or white on white. Make it yellow; you can always change it > > later. > > > > Rick > > Nothing I change there makes it to the image. > > Snapshot attached. smunched to 63kb. > And stripped by the server. How the heck do you expect your users to be able to show you whats gone aglay? > Thanks Rick. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:43 PM > > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install > > > > On Thursday 21 July 2016 22:28:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > > . . . > > Ok, rebooted, and now I have the text box, but nothing I do to or in > > it, shows up in the image within the image box outline I've pulled > > out to a quite decent size. > > > > Did I miss another memo? > > > > Thanks for the speedy reply, Akkana. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install
On Friday 22 July 2016 00:03:22 Rick Strong wrote: > Make sure the SIZE is NOT in Px (pixels). Use Pt (points) or something > bigger. Also make sure TYPE COLOUR (COLOR) is not black on black or > white on white. Make it yellow; you can always change it later. > > Rick Nothing I change there makes it to the image. Snapshot attached. smunched to 63kb. Thanks Rick. > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:43 PM > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install > > On Thursday 21 July 2016 22:28:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > . . . > Ok, rebooted, and now I have the text box, but nothing I do to or in > it, shows up in the image within the image box outline I've pulled out > to a quite decent size. > > Did I miss another memo? > > Thanks for the speedy reply, Akkana. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install
On Thursday 21 July 2016 20:50:29 Akkana Peck wrote: > Gene Heskett writes: > > Greetings everybody; > > > > I just went to add some text to some pix I just shot to be followed > > by moving the edited copies to my web page. > > > > But I opened the first one in gimp, clicked on the A to get the text > > entry box, and no box appears. > > Are you clicking on the canvas after clicking on the A? The A just > makes the text tool active; you have to click in the canvas to > create a new text layer (and set its initial position). > > ...Akkana Clicking on the canvas left no mark on the canvas, nor did it open the teeny text editor. And I just did an update, and now it works, and not one of the 50+ updates looked to have anything to do with gimp. And I wonder if thats part of the reason I have thinning grey hair and a back back, 81 years always sounds like such a worthless excuse. I need to restart tdm-trinity anyway, and synaptic says there is a newer api compatible kernel, suggesting I reboot, so I guess its time. > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2, wheezy install
Greetings everybody; I just went to add some text to some pix I just shot to be followed by moving the edited copies to my web page. But I opened the first one in gimp, clicked on the A to get the text entry box, and no box appears. So I assume I am missing a suggested dependency. Does anyone have a clue what I might not have installed? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] confirm 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1
On Friday 24 June 2016 13:15:38 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Richard wrote: > >> > gimp-print-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > >> > >> ^^ > >> > >> Well, this is a different mailing list. On a different list server. > > > > So gimp-user-list and gimp-developer-list (both @gnome.org) are > > processed by different servers? > > By the same one, on gnome.org. > > gimp-print-devel@, however, is a mailing list by a 3rd party project. > It's also a somewhat outdated mailing list name, because the project > has been known as Gutenprint for quite a long time now. > > Alex Humm, is there now a Gutenprint-devel list? Perhaps thats the one I should be "copying"? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] confirm 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1
On Friday 24 June 2016 12:55:06 Michael Schumacher wrote: > On 06/24/2016 06:30 PM, Richard wrote: > >> From: schum...@gmx.de > >> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > >> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:41:44 +0200 > >> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm > >> 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1 > >> > >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2016 um 06:11 Uhr > >>> Von: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@shentel.net> > >>> An: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > >>> Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm > >>> 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1 > >>> > >>> On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24 > >>> gimp-print-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > >> > >> ^^ > >> > >> Well, this is a different mailing list. On a different list server. > > > > So gimp-user-list and gimp-developer-list (both @gnome.org) are > > processed by different servers? > > > > That does seem odd, at first, but IIRC I did have to register on it > > separately > > Gene has forwarded a list membership warning mail sent from a mailing > list server at SourceForge, which manages the gimp-print-devel > > As you have correctly stated, we maintain the gimp lists on the > mail.gnome.org server, and so can't do anything about the SF list > configuration. > > > P.S. The message also contains a list membership password - which has > been changed by now, I hope? I probably should, but with a pw that short, I am still grappling with the fact that it doesn't appear to have ever been hacked in the nominally decade I've been subbed to that list. OTOH, that list or myself are "low value" targets I guess. In any event, its an automatically generated pw, one that needs to be 3 or 4x longer before any claims about pw security are claimed. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] confirm 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1
On Friday 24 June 2016 02:50:32 Michael Schumacher wrote: > > Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 um 04:06 Uhr > > Von: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@shentel.net> > > An: Richard <strata_ran...@hotmail.com> > > Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" <gimp-user-list@gnome.org> > > Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm > > 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1 > > > > I got one yesterday threatening to remove me if I got one more > > bounce. For 1, count 'em (according to the message) bounce. Hello, > > this is the internet folks, stuff happens! > > > > IMO the one bounce and you're out sucks dead toads thru soda straws, > > particularly in view of the worsening infrastructure of the US in > > the last 20 years. > > It's "one more bounce". Meaning that you have had many of them before > - so you could go check the list archives and see how many of the > messages you didn't receive, and then ask your mail provide why you > didn't receive them. That is an automatic 30 minute phone call because I have to convince each flunky answering the phone that I need to talk to someone about an email problem. There is at least 4 layers of useless dweebs before I get to someone who at least knows what fetchmail or linux is. I only make that call when things are really stuffed. That is not what the server message says. The server's message always says one bounce, and quotes the bounced message, the frequency of the messages is about monthly. The bounce score in the message is under 2%. And yet I am being threatened with an automatic ubsubscribe? It doesn't figure. > Also, you are alternating between different sender addresses - > @shentel.net and @wdtv.com. The latter is not subscribed to the > gimp-user mailing lists and ends up in the moderation queue. That should not have happened as my account on that server has been removed, but to be sure I just removed the wdtv.com from the sending choices so it can't "catch me up". Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] confirm 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1
On Thursday 23 June 2016 22:26:19 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> [06-23-16 22:08]: > > On Thursday 23 June 2016 11:47:13 Richard wrote: > > > > From: ghesk...@shentel.net > > > > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:11:28 -0400 > > > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm > > > > 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1 > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24 > > > > > > > > gimp-print-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > > > Your membership in the mailing list Gimp-print-devel has been > > > > > disabled due to excessive bounces [ . . . ] > > > > > > Some time ago I received a similar message from > > > gimp-developer-list. I was a little confused (and suspicious) > > > since I have never received such a message from gimp-user-list. > > > (Incidentally, I have not received any messages from > > > gimp-developer-list since then; maybe it was legit.) > > > > > > Can anyone share further information about this? > > > > IDK ATM. I am in central WV, much of which has been either in the > > dark for the last 15 hours, or listening to standby generator, which > > I have, a 20kw nat gas automatic. It started at about 3:22 this > > morning, and finally shut down for the last time about 18:07 this > > evening. > > > > I got one yesterday threatening to remove me if I got one more > > bounce. For 1, count 'em (according to the message) bounce. Hello, > > this is the internet folks, stuff happens! > > > > IMO the one bounce and you're out sucks dead toads thru soda straws, > > particularly in view of the worsening infrastructure of the US in > > the last 20 years. > > > > I am on shentel.net for both internet and phone, did that several > > years ago when verizon's old copper got so bad I was out of a phone > > for all but 2 weeks of the first 4 months of the year, and verizon > > had the unmitigated gaul to get their knickers in a knot over my > > "harrassing" them by calling the P.U.C., which can lean on them > > legally if they have to. At that point I didn't have, nor could I > > find, a quarter to call somebody that cared as I damned sure didn't > > when a working phone is part of a COPD victims (my wife) lifeline. > > Shentel is doing their email server someplace in the "cloud" and its > > scary fast, so I've no clue why they would ever bounce a mailing > > list message addressed to me. > > > > But this msg even though my filters seem to have missfired, is being > > CC:'d back to the list just to see if I have well and truly been > > un-subscribed. > > > > I wish I knew what their reasoning is. But those people can't be > > bothered to respond to a list member, beneath their dignity or ??? > > > > > -- Stratadrake > > > strata_ran...@hotmail.com > > > > > > Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. > > your mail, the mail in question, was not cc'd "back to the list". It > was addressed directly to the list. Perhaps you erred. It went out of here addressed to you, and CC:d to the list. And I now have 2 copies of it from the list, only one of which shows it was To: the list. It didn't leave here addressed To: the list. To: you, and CC:'d to the list, but this discussion is overshadowing my complaint. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] confirm 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1
On Thursday 23 June 2016 11:47:13 Richard wrote: > > From: ghesk...@shentel.net > > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 00:11:28 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] confirm > > 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1 > > > > On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24 > > > > gimp-print-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > Your membership in the mailing list Gimp-print-devel has been > > > disabled due to excessive bounces [ . . . ] > > Some time ago I received a similar message from gimp-developer-list. > I was a little confused (and suspicious) since I have never received > such a message from gimp-user-list. (Incidentally, I have not > received any messages from gimp-developer-list since then; maybe it > was legit.) > > Can anyone share further information about this? IDK ATM. I am in central WV, much of which has been either in the dark for the last 15 hours, or listening to standby generator, which I have, a 20kw nat gas automatic. It started at about 3:22 this morning, and finally shut down for the last time about 18:07 this evening. I got one yesterday threatening to remove me if I got one more bounce. For 1, count 'em (according to the message) bounce. Hello, this is the internet folks, stuff happens! IMO the one bounce and you're out sucks dead toads thru soda straws, particularly in view of the worsening infrastructure of the US in the last 20 years. I am on shentel.net for both internet and phone, did that several years ago when verizon's old copper got so bad I was out of a phone for all but 2 weeks of the first 4 months of the year, and verizon had the unmitigated gaul to get their knickers in a knot over my "harrassing" them by calling the P.U.C., which can lean on them legally if they have to. At that point I didn't have, nor could I find, a quarter to call somebody that cared as I damned sure didn't when a working phone is part of a COPD victims (my wife) lifeline. Shentel is doing their email server someplace in the "cloud" and its scary fast, so I've no clue why they would ever bounce a mailing list message addressed to me. But this msg even though my filters seem to have missfired, is being CC:'d back to the list just to see if I have well and truly been un-subscribed. I wish I knew what their reasoning is. But those people can't be bothered to respond to a list member, beneath their dignity or ??? > -- Stratadrake > strata_ran...@hotmail.com > > Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] confirm 2a3825098e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1
On Wednesday 22 June 2016 20:18:24 gimp-print-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Your membership in the mailing list Gimp-print-devel has been disabled > due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated > 23-Jun-2016. You will not get any more messages from this list until > you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like > this before your membership in the list is deleted. > > To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message > (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/confirm/gimp-print-devel/2a3825098 >e54d3a429da74d094c0460ac6cb01e1 > > > You can also visit your membership page at > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/gimp-print-devel/gheskett% >40shentel.net > > > On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such > as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a > reminder, your membership password is > > fozoifip > > If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner > at > > gimp-print-devel-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Back again 2.8 changed things, can overlay text title
On Saturday 21 May 2016 14:01:06 Michael Schumacher wrote: > On 05/21/2016 07:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Actually , that was yesterday at 12:37, and this just came back, but > > it took 25 hours for the round trip? And my original message that > > triggered this fuss, hasn't made the round trip yet. So this goes > > back to a newly subscribed account. > > Have a look at the Received: headers of your messages. Interesting Michael but confusing. Incoming messages from the list, up until I subscribed from my ISP's mail server, were coming in thru wdtv.com where I have a lietime account. But now everything is pretty on time but switched, so I am getting two copies delivered to the shentel.net address. Am I subscribed twice at the shental.net address, and the delay was caused by my posts from the wdtv.com address were being moderated? If I am subscribed twice at the shental.net address, please nuke the earlier account. But I would also point out that not once that I can find in my monthly history which I keep in a separate folder with no expiry setup, has your server ever emailed me my passwd. And I don't have room enough on the wall (or paint enough) here to paint the pw of every mailing list I am subscribed to. And 81 yo wet ram does NOT remember that stuff. So please turn that option back on. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Back again 2.8 changed things, can overlay text title
On Friday 20 May 2016 20:56:54 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I sent this list a message with the above subject line at 12:37:21 > today but the echo from the list has not yet arrived, at 20:56:39. > > Any body know why it is so slow? > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Actually , that was yesterday at 12:37, and this just came back, but it took 25 hours for the round trip? And my original message that triggered this fuss, hasn't made the round trip yet. So this goes back to a newly subscribed account. If the passwd request ever shows up, I'll reset it, and unsub the old, but, its in the same black hole as the rest of the messages I originated and sent thru the server at mail.wdtv.com. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Back again 2.8 changed things, can overlay text title
Greetings all; I sent this list a message with the above subject line at 12:37:21 today but the echo from the list has not yet arrived, at 20:56:39. Any body know why it is so slow? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Heavy Metal design cover contest made with the GIMP
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 12:22:14 Marco Túlio Vilela wrote: > Hi, Everybody! How are you? > My hobby is to draw on my pen tablet and I use only free software > programs (GIMP, Medibang, Krita) ito draw my works. > Please, check my drawing on my gallery at DeviantArt. > Thank you by your time and attention! > Best wishes, > Tulio Vilela > http://tulio-vilela.deviantart.com/art/King-Barbarian-Wolf-and-His-Wiv >es-608443355 ___ Thats quite decent stuff, but I was hesitant to click on it at first, I don't know as it was spam or a keylogger installer. > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Luminosity confusion
On Tuesday 01 December 2015 02:23:07 Jack Denman wrote: > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 01:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 December 2015 00:27:57 Jack Denman wrote: > > > I am still learning about digital photography. I developed my > > > first roll of film in 1946, by hand in my grandmothers bathroom. > > > > > > Since I am learning masking techniques, I wonder if someone could > > > explain the contradiction of these two scripts. > > > > > > > > > This web page has a download link of a script from "Download from: > > > Google Drive" at produces a file called > > > "patdavid-luminosity-masks-2.scm" > > > > > > http://blog.patdavid.net/2013/11/getting-around-in-gimp-luminosity > > >-mas ks.html > > > > > > > > > This file cannot be used because when copied into > > > .gimp-2.8/scripts/ the script entry is not visible on the > > > pull-down menus of gimp. > > > > Did you set the execute permissions, and do you have the first > > lines "she-bang" interpreter installed? Thats slang for the #!/bin/bash or #!/bin/python, #!/path/to/whatever as the first line of the file. Its the interpreter that the script is intended to be executed by. I must confess I am not familiar with the requirements of a ".scm' file, so my advice is to be seasoned as needed. :) > > Yes the execute bit is set. I do not know what you mean by the > "she-bang" interpreter. Can you explain what that is? > > > > On the other hand the older script called "Luminosity_masks.scm" > > > does work from some older web pages and does cause the scripts > > > pull-down menu to appear. When the channels menu is invoked from > > > this script the other masks disappear. Compare the first line on the file that works, with the first line of the one that does not. I believe its case sensitive. If you post both lines as a straight copy/paste, perhaps someone with better knowledge that I can illuminate the problem. I do not know what you mean by "other masks disappear". > > > > > > > > > Can someone explain this? Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Luminosity confusion
On Tuesday 01 December 2015 00:27:57 Jack Denman wrote: > I am still learning about digital photography. I developed my first > roll of film in 1946, by hand in my grandmothers bathroom. > > Since I am learning masking techniques, I wonder if someone could > explain the contradiction of these two scripts. > > > This web page has a download link of a script from "Download from: > Google Drive" at produces a file called > "patdavid-luminosity-masks-2.scm" > > http://blog.patdavid.net/2013/11/getting-around-in-gimp-luminosity-mas >ks.html > > > This file cannot be used because when copied into .gimp-2.8/scripts/ > the script entry is not visible on the pull-down menus of gimp. Did you set the execute permissions, and do you have the first lines "she-bang" interpreter installed? > On the other hand the older script called "Luminosity_masks.scm" does > work from some older web pages and does cause the scripts pull-down > menu to appear. When the channels menu is invoked from this script the > other masks disappear. > > > > Can someone explain this? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] how to activate a tool by script-fu for then using it interactively
On Thursday 05 November 2015 15:04:29 Neal Weissman wrote: > sorry to be a pest .. how do i unsubscribe from receiving gimp > emails? > A, a top posting winderz user, never reads past the first screen of the message. If you press the down arrow, the next to last line of the message contains a clickable link to the list membership control page. You can un-subscribe from there, but you MUST reply to the confirmation message the server will send you. However, once kmail was able to be restarted, it did resurrect the message, this one, that I was preparing to send when the crash occurred. So here it is also. And I note that I was grepping for the wrong name, it was Neal Weissman, my mistake. > the forums will not accept my login - something about a wrong > username/password combination - and the “change password” mechanism > has the effrontery to protest to my face that i have entered an > incorrect email format ! > > > /s/ Neal Weissman > > nweis...@gmail.com 718-681-7609 > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:53 AM, JoeSon <for...@gimpusers.com> wrote: > > >Dear experts, > > > > > >I would like to prepare a script-fu function for selecting a tool > > > with prepared tool options. > > > > > >For example, there's a use case for always drawing (free hand) with > > > a pencil, wich must be a 2px line in red. So, I want to write a > > > function, which selects the pencil and sets the pencil's options > > > to 2px. > > > > > >What I found is the function "gimp-pencil", but if I understand > > > right, this function is used to imediately draw a line between > > > given coordinates. But I only want to prepare the pencil tool, so > > > that the user daws free-hand, but with my pre-defined settings. > > > > > >Which function can I use? > > > > > >Thanks a lot in advance for your answers! > > >Joe Son > > > > So, I just found out, how to use the functions > > "gimp-context-set-brush-size" and > > "gimp-context-set-foreground". > > But I don't yet know how which function to use for selecting the > > pencil as current tool... > > > > Joe Son > > > > -- > > JoeSon (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) > > ___ > > gimp-user-list mailing list > > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > > List membership: > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List > > archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] N Wasserman msg
You complained that a submissions agent said your mail was in the wrong format. kmail did display it, once, but on looking at the raw message, it was apparently base64 encoded without the proper mime headers that would have made it a legal message. At that point kmail crashed and would not restart without crashing again and again. I was unable to grep to find that specific message and delete it, so I was forced to clean out the Gimp-user directory in its entirety. Then it restarted just fine. I was unable to determine what mail agent you were using, it did not identify itself in the headers I was able to read before the crash, but whatever it is, is seriously miss-configured. For starters, its mime-typing is broken. Is it perchance an Oracle product? They seem to be at the root of several recent email debacles, and I am tempted to see if mailfilter can see that its an Oracle sourced message and kill it while still on the server. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] N Wasserman msg
On Thursday 05 November 2015 17:00:14 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > 1. It was from Neal Weissman <nweis...@gmail.com> > 2. Difficult to tell which mail client: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > * Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> [11-05-15 16:32]: > > You complained that a submissions agent said your mail was in the > > wrong format. kmail did display it, once, but on looking at the raw > > message, it was apparently base64 encoded without the proper mime > > headers that would have made it a legal message. At that point > > kmail crashed and would not restart without crashing again and > > again. I was unable to grep to find that specific message and delete > > it, so I was forced to clean out the Gimp-user directory in its > > entirety. Then it restarted just fine. > > You have a local problem. His mail displays quite fine although his > addressing and top posting leave much to be desired. > > > I was unable to determine what mail agent you were using, it did not > > identify itself in the headers I was able to read before the crash, > > but whatever it is, is seriously miss-configured. > > No, your's is. How so?, and I'll try to fix it. > > > For starters, its mime-typing is broken. Is it perchance an Oracle > > product? They seem to be at the root of several recent email > > debacles, and I am tempted to see if mailfilter can see that its an > > Oracle sourced message and kill it while still on the server. > > Better get your flame retardant under-suit ready. You are *wrong*. Nomex underwear I have, fire away. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Unsubscribe, please.
On Tuesday 18 August 2015 11:42:25 Linda Henley wrote: Sent from my iPhone ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: Only you can do that Linda, at the address in the line above. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Time to fork BABL and GEGL
On Saturday 08 November 2014 22:27:45 billn did opine And Gene did reply: Time to fork off BABL and GEGL. Forking was good for Openoffice. LIbreoffice is kicking tail. Developers who want to turn out a good product in a timely manner and other programmers who want to wait 3-5 years for small improvements. LOL Thats a yes and no situation. None of the artwork examples that many megabytes of that come with OO, do not come with LO for copyright reasons. And despite that I still like LO better, I have now tried to dl the latest update 7 times, 6 of those made it to something north of 208 megs and stalled, and once only to about 30 megs. I have no clue how many megs the tarball actually is, oly that if I rename it so a tar session can unpack it, the tarball is incomplete. I am tempted to think that it stalls if you do not make a donation from that same screen, and I am not the least allergic to supporting the project, but I don't buy a 3 legged pig in a poke. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
