Re: [Gimp-user] Discontinuation of mailing lists and moving to Discourse

[Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list]

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 02:43:53PM +0900, Joel Rees via gimp-user-list wrote:
> I'm not an active user of the lists, haven't posted in ages. so I was just
> considering ignoring this thread and when the list disappears disappearing
> from the community myself.
> 
> But I decided to investigate discourse to see if I would be installing a
> client or whatever, and I find the project pages really don't tell me what
> I want to know before I install something new. (That other thing, Discord,
> for instance, does not seem to be surviving the move to the new phone. I'm
> getting pickier.)
> 
> So I went to Wikipedia for a better overview and I noticed something
> disconcerting on the Wikipedia page –
> 
> Paraphrased: This reads like advertising material. And, ... nine years
> later it still reads like advertising material.
> 
> Not a confidence builder. Which means, yeah, lurkers like me will likely
> disappear from the community.
> 
> FWIW.
> 
> Joel Rees

Exactly my same feeling. I wonder: since the very low traffic of these
lists, was it so hard to keep them alive? Why not ask for a hand before
deciding to migrate?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Leica D-Lux 7 RAW Support

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On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:49:18AM -0500, H Baird wrote:
> I have GIMP 2.10.28. I request that support for converting Leica D-Lux 7 RWL
> RAW format be included with GIMP.
> 
> Regards, Hal
> 

GIMP directly does _NOT_ convert ANY raw format. It uses darktable or
rawtherapee for this.

https://www.darktable.org/
https://rawtherapee.com/

So install one of these two tools and cross your fingers...

https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/ (your camera is
absent but the earlier is present, try use it anyway)

for rawtherapee I did not find the camera support list. Try install it
and see if it works for you.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Guide

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On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 02:35:00PM +0200, stern613 via gimp-user-list wrote:
> Hi,
> I just started using GIMP. Thanks a lot for this free program to the
> creators of it!
> 
> The problem I encounter is, that in the GIMP Guide it does not say at the
> end of the article how to bring the action to its end. Here are examples:
> 
> 1) Crop an Image
> file:///usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-crop.html
> 
> It does not say how to crop the image finally. I found out myself that I
> had to put the cursor over one of the corners of the selected area and then
> to press the left button of the mouse, and this crops the image actually.
> It does not say it in the guide, it took me quite a while to find it out by
> chance.


https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-crop.html
[...]
"Double-click inside the rectangle or press Enter to complete cropping."
[...]

> 
> 2) Color Picker
> file:///usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/gimp-tool-color-picker.html
> 
> The black-and-white icon near the Colour Picker cursor did not change its
> color to the picked colour, so I thought it was not working, or I was doing
> something wrong. Then I took the Brush tool and it did work.

To me it works as described.

> 
> I just think the articles need to be a bit worked on to explain things to
> their end.

... or as you said earlier, you did something wrong...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Recurring mouse problem in GIMP 2.8.22

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On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 11:45:53AM -0400, Rick Strong wrote:
> It sounds like a mouse problem, not a GIMP problem.
> 
> -Make sure the mouse switch is on, -try changing your batteries, -clean the
> "eye" underneath if it is an optical mouse, -check your connection if it is
> not wireless, -check your dongle if it is wireless, -try a new mouse pad or
> another surface.

Clearly it's not a mouse problem if it affects only GIMP and not the
entire system. In that case I suggest you to reset (=delete) the user
config data of GIMP here: https://www.gimp.org/tutorials/GIMPProfile/

good luck!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination

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On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:26:41PM +0300, Cristian Secară wrote:
> În data de Tue, 25 May 2021 11:19:43 -0700, Michael Richards via 
> gimp-user-list a scris:
> 
> > 
> > I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it
> > violates the GNOME Code of Conduct. 
> > 
> > I make this request, not to cause trouble but to stand up against
> > unintentional - but no less harmful - discrimination.
> > 
> > [...]
> 
> In what language stands the name as discrimination ? In my language 
> (Romanian) the word "gimp" has no meaning whatsoever. The only possible 
> association is with the GNU Image Manipulation Program – and this only for 
> those who work with it or at least ever heard about it.
> 
> I wonder if in Italian or French or German etc. languages this word has any 
> meaning except for the GIMP program.

I can testify that in Italian (and Esperanto) the term GIMP is
meaningless except for the acronym "GNU Image Manipulation Program"...

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Re: [Gimp-user] (no subject)

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On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:46:30AM +, ryan lague via gimp-user-list wrote:
> How come in Gimp when I change the resolution in the print size, I cant set 
> the height and width to what I want individually , if I set one, it 
> automatically sets the other to something
> For example, I have a 4000 x 6000 resolution image n I want to set it to 2400 
> x 3200 but when I set it to 2400 it automatically changes the other to 3600, 
> how do I get to do specific numbers that I want? thanks
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

See the chain simbol ? try click on it to disable the lock between
dimensions... but mind you! Size proportions will be affected!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Help

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On Sun, Jun 07, 2020 at 08:31:02PM -0400, Stella via gimp-user-list wrote:
> Hello,
> I have the free version of Gimp. 

There are no commercial versions that I know of...

> I have Windows 10. I have placed a
> photo in Gimp. I would now like to add words. I am doing an obituary. I
> printed the “Adding text to with Gimp”. I selected the Text tool. I then
> clicked where I want the Text to appear. I then started to add my text
> within the box. There was suppose to be a text editor that pops up but
> this does happen for me. What am I doing wrong. Please if someone could
> tell me STEP BY STEP how to get text next to the picture I have within
> Gimp?

Did you read the docs? They usually are very exaustive:

https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-image-text-management.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] Recommendation on GIMP

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On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 05:54:26PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via 
gimp-user-list wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 4:07 PM yang junjie wrote:
[...]
> I think this is a great learning opportunity to me personally because
> clearly a number of people expect to be told about all that stuff on
> some communication channel that we don't cover yet, and I would very
> much like to know what that channel is :)

I guess: a non-English-speaking channel?

just my 2 euro cents:

what if the gimp.org site was translatable as it is done with the program
and the docs?

I would volunteer for the Italian translation, for a start ... ;-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Recommendation on GIMP

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I am not a developer but a translator nevertheless I feel that I can answer to
some of the questions here.

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 01:07:06PM +, yang junjie via gimp-user-list wrote:
> Dear GIMP developer, Hello, I am an amateur designer who loves GIMP
> very much, I used to think that adobe photoshop was irreplaceable until I
> came across GIMP, however, over time I am a bit disappointed with the
> current development of GIMP, which may make you angry, but I still feel
> the need to say something, please forgive the offense. Here are a few
> points I'd like to make about my expectations and views on GIMP

Ok

> First of all, GIMP is no worse than Photoshop in terms of image
> processing, 

good to hear that!

> but in terms of memory footprint and speed, it's a lot worse,
> and I understand that, so I'm not complaining too much about it, but I
> think it can be optimized.

yes, and I am confident that it will improve over time...

> Secondly, from what I understand, GIMP is almost two decades old, which
> results in extremely old code, so many new features can be very difficult
> to add, especially non-destructive edits and multi-selected layers, which
> should be in the underlying layer.

GIMP devs did a great deal of rebuild in the last 5 years or so,
therefore they already did what you are suggesting to do here. The devs
was so able to maintain the good old look and feel but really, GIMP
is a new beast now!

> So, I think GIMP developers, you can really try to rebuild GIMP again,
> because his code is so old, and as far as I know migrating from GTK2.0 to
> GTK3.0 is no less difficult than a rewrite.
>
> In my understanding, the non-destructive edit is a very ground floor
> thing, he's like the foundation of a house, and the current GIMP is the
> equivalent of a house already built, but the foundation is very shaky
> because he lacks the most core of functional non-destructive edits!
>
> I think non-destructive editing is essential for image processing
> because no one wants their workflow to be a destructive one, the same
> goes for layer multi-selection, there is a lot of logic to GIMP's work
> that is beyond my comprehension, and there is a deep meaning to it, but
> he does cause me great distress in my day-to-day experiences, such as the
> floating selection feature, where a new layer pops up a new window, and I
> think these are all things that can greatly consume the time we spend
> working.

As I said above, devs already did what you are suggesting. Guess what?
One of the goals of this overhaul is to enable non-destructive edit in
GIMP!

> So re-build one and refine these features as an underlying layer so
> that you can better refine this great software! The refactoring doesn't
> mean it kills the software, I think it means the rebirth of the software,
> and you can see how much BLENDER is refreshed after the refactoring, as I
> think GIMP can do!

... there are some news coming soon, I don't want to spoil the surprise
but, stay tuned!

[...]

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Re: [Gimp-user] 45 days have passed ...

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On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 11:06:56AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via 
gimp-user-list wrote:
> We are all fine, as far as I can tell. Busy as usual.

Ok very glad to hear that, and that is all that matters...

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Re: [Gimp-user] 45 days have passed ...

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s/did a/asked/

:-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] 45 days have passed ...

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On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:24:15AM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/7/20 9:19 AM, Maurizio Loreti via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > 45 days have passed since the announce of  he availability of GIMP
> > 2.10.18; and still no MacOS package has been released.  I suppose that
> > your packager is still ill, and I send her/him my best wishes for a
> > speedy recovery.
> 
> Just one thing: if general exhaustion should be part of this as well,
> then regular reminders that could be interpreted as "you still haven't
> done this" do NOT help.
> 
> Speaking from experience.

Ok please calm down, Maurizio did a very polite (and concerned) question.
Now I also am curious / concerned. Is everything ok among GIMP devs?
Since in Italy things started to be ugly these days...

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[Gimp-user] compiling for sane

[Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list]

Hi people,
I would like to compile GIMP with support for (x)sane enabled.
How can I do it?

I have Ubuntu Linux 18.04 amd64 and already have gimp compiled from the
2.10 branch...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Two simple questions

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On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 02:35:53PM +0100, Marco Ciampa via gimp-user-list wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:58:49AM -0500, Dick Marti via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > I have not used Gimp yet but I have two questions that require only brief 
> > answers.
> > 1) I want to print out the User Manual. How many pages is it?
> 
> in 2016 were 867 pages...
> 
> if you are patient I'll update the pdf in this location to download:
> 
> http://gimp.linux.it/www/meta/gimp-en.pdf
> 
> currently this is the 2016 version...
> 

Update: you can get both the old and the new versions:

http://gimp.linux.it/www/meta/gimp-help-2.8-en.pdf

and

http://gimp.linux.it/www/meta/gimp-help-2.10-en.pdf

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Re: [Gimp-user] Two simple questions

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On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 10:58:49AM -0500, Dick Marti via gimp-user-list wrote:
> I have not used Gimp yet but I have two questions that require only brief 
> answers.
> 1) I want to print out the User Manual. How many pages is it?

in 2016 were 867 pages...

if you are patient I'll update the pdf in this location to download:

http://gimp.linux.it/www/meta/gimp-en.pdf

currently this is the 2016 version...

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop FYI

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On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:50:19PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/10/2017 04:58 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
> > On 12/10/2017 04:20 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/08/2017 11:00 AM, Amira_Cervantes wrote:
>  Chromebook photoshop cloud soon.  Photoshop in Chrome Ubuntu next
>  year.
> >>>
> >>> Adobe Photoshop Is also Coming To Linux, Through Chromebooks ...
> >>> sounds great!
> >>
> >> I'm sure its parents are very proud.
> > 
> > Its parents should be ashamed:
> 
> Maybe, but I think their occupational choices indicate that they are not
> capable of understanding the bluntly obvious antisocial implications of
> cultivating a user base of clueless suckers and abusing their lack of
> technical and practical smarts to the breaking point.
> 
> This perspective reveals the abusers in the equation as meta-losers at
> the game of life.  People who adhere to the maxim "Whoever dies with the
> most toys wins," will discover too late that whoever dies with the most
> toys loses everything they ever really cared about.

Amen,

agree 100%.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Changing the text on this image

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On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 01:14:05PM +0200, Dave_London wrote:
> Hi,
> I am new to Gimp2 and have an image on my website that I want to change.
> 
> I only have the final jpg file that I have attached.
> 
> On this image, it says the word "Webinar" to change that, I guess I would 
> need 
> need to replicate the color and go over the word to effectively "rub it out" 
> and
> then make the text and place it.
> 
> Which tools should I use ?

In my humble opinion you can try the clone tool and than polish it with the 
smear tool
or just wipe out the entire surface of the button with suitable gradient...

Example attached... ;-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP ---> Pixi: suggested name change

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On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 08:39:53PM +0100, gimp-users.mbou...@spamgourmet.com 
wrote:
> Joshua Coppersmith-Heaven wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >GIMP is a great programme, but it is not a great name. Changing its
> >identity to something more likeable will help to get more users, and
> >potentially more developers.
> >
> >There is a commercial image editor called Pixie (with an e), but not
> >Pixi. This makes sense, as long as the software remains a pixel-based
> >editor.
> 
> How about the Pixel Image Manipulation Program? Similar to the current name,
> but emphasises that it's a pixel rather than vector image editor.
> 
> (No, of course I'm not serious!)

That was a good one! :-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Business Report of GIMP

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I work in a high school in Italy and I can definitely say tha GIMP is
used widely in education under Windows and Mac as it is Free (in the
meaning of like Freedom _and_ Free Beer) where people can't afford or
want to use an alternative raster-graphic program other than Photoshop.

For the sake of honesty, I think you have to check also for Krita:

https://krita.org

as its user base is growing fast, even on GIMP ...

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