Re: [Gimp-user] transition photoshop to gimp

[tobias . lunte]

 

Hi, 

The question isn't really if the workflow is nondestructive,
but rather, to what extent. In GIMP you can paint nondestructively by
using a new transparent layer. In photoshop you can do that and on top
of that use layer effects/filters nondestructively. That is, afaik, not
currently possible in GIMP. 

However, the big project the developers
are working on right now is transitioning GIMP to a new core, called
GEGL. With that, it should be possible to retroactively change pretty
much anything you have done to the image, even far more than is possible
with photoshop right now. But, as I said, it is a big project and we
don't now when it will be done/released. 

Am 15.03.2014 17:04, schrieb
crumpy_panda: 

>> Um... questions?
> 
> well i didnt formulated them
out... you are right ;)
> 
> so one important one would be:
> 
> Is
there a hidden option for a complete non destructive worklfow ? like
>
adjustment layers and non permanent filter in photoshop ?
> 
> how
important is a non destructive workflow for the developers ? are they
aware
> that it isnt possible right now ? is it planned to get it
implemented better ?
> 
> the layer folders seem to be a neglected
child.. why?

 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour

[tobias . lunte]

 

Am 04.12.2013 14:28, schrieb Simon Budig: 

> Brendan Scott
(disposableem...@apps.opensourcelaw.biz) wrote:
> 
>> What I have also
said is that if the purpose of the distinction is to preserve work, it
didn't serve that function for me. That suggests to me that the UI "may
need more thought". You ought to ask your question of someone else.
> 
>
To me it is entirely unclear, what in your workflow differenciates a
>
"good" warning dialog from a "bad" warning dialog.
> 
> Without a hint
from you we're 100% in the "Do-What-I-Mean-Button"
> ballpark which is
not really helping with the "more thought" we might
> need.
> 
> I
gathered from your mail, that you lost work because the save/export
>
distinction conditioned you into clicking the warning away. So, if you
>
don't want us to remove the warning, what are our options?
> 
> Bye,
>
Simon

Based on the various mails on this topic (including "I hate this,
give me back my 2.6!") , I'd suggest this


http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.png
[1] 

kind of closing-dialog. The stark contrast between the buttons and
the subdued text gives an easy-to-grasp overview on which images have
been saved/exported and the button allows the user to directly take the
necessary actions.
It could be argued whether the first example should
be included considering the product vision; my suggestion would be only
when "export to"/"overwrite" is populated. 

Of course this is up for
debate, but you wanted a step out of the ballpark and here it is. In
case anyone wants to edit the design, here


http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.xcf
[2] 

is the corresponding xcf. 

--> A similar idea (including only the
save-button so that one wouldn't have to go through the images one by
one) has popped up before. Unfortunately I couldn't find the original
mail in the archives, else I'd be happy to give credit where it's due.


bw,
Tobias Lunte // Tobl 
 

Links:
--
[1]
http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.png
[2]
http://tobiaslunte.de/gummibaerchen/save_export_-_confirm_on_close.xcf
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Re: [Gimp-user] Mouse+Brush Cursor not responding

[Tobias Lunte]

I have the same problem since 2.8, though not with a wacom, but with a 
hanvon-tablet. For me it helps to move the cursor onto one of the docks and 
reenter the image every time I switch pointing device. (Win7 64-bit, running 
gimp in 32-bit because of missing 64-bit driver for my tablet) (and yes, you 
should also give this info)
bw,
Tobias

neuro  wrote:
>When I move my mouse over my image the brush cursor is not moving and
>it will
>not let me click on my image (with the mouse) the crosshair/cursor will
>follow
>it, however the brush will not, nor will any other tools, my wacom
>tablet
>however works fine.
>
>I thought it must be something to do with GIMP accepting input but its
>not going
>as of yet.
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 Control Panels

[tobias . lunte]

 

> * Mike Armistead  [08-22-13 11:24]:
> 
>>
I have downloaded several iterations of Gimp 2.8, now up to 2.8.6, and
all I get is a blank screen with the menu bar at the top (and the Gimp
logo in the background). I don't see any of the toolbars or control
panels that all tutorials show as being part of Gimp 2.8. The only
toolbar I can pull up is the tall narrow one under tools that just has
the basic functions of older versions of Gimp. Am I doing something
wrong or is there some kind of block on my computer? I'm using Windows 7
64-bit OS. I also have Adaptable Gimp 2.6.10 on my computer - could that
be interfering with anything?
> 
> Anything is possible, expecially in
windows environment. What exactly is
> "Adaptable Gimp" as that name is
foriegn, gimp is gimp.
> 
> First thing I would try is *completely*
removing "Adaptable Gimp",
> including its personal configuration files.
Remove *all* of gimp also.
> 
> Then reinstall gimp and see what you
get.
> 
> gud luk,

Before that, try hitting "Tab" (hides/shows all
active docks) or adding in the control panels from "windows->dockable
dialogs (or similar, don't have a gimp around here)" 

 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Clone tool not working

[Tobias Lunte]

Am 14.07.2013 04:07, schrieb Sanjib Sikder:
> When using the paintbrush-tool, ctrl-clicking should function as a 
color-picker. Does that work?

No that does not work.


Then it seems that your gimp-installation doesn't accept ctrl-clicking 
on the canvas on general. At this point, this is completely above me, 
but maybe someone else can think of something with this info.


bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Image Area doesn't respond to mouse.

[Tobias Lunte]

Am 13.07.2013 22:48, schrieb ArRaf:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I am actually using a tablet, I typed mouse 
for easier term. I've opened Edit>Input devices just like you said. 
The "core pointer" is there and it has already been set to screen, but 
it still hasn't work. Is there anything else? I would appreciate it. 
if you're using a tablet, there should be other entries in the menu as 
well, representing different parts of the tablet (stylus, eraser, 
buttons, etc. ; though they may not be labeled as obviously). Try 
setting the one for the stylus to "screen".
Also, make sure you have used your tablet before starting gimp (for 
example by using the stylus to launch gimp), or else it won't get 
recognized by the program.


bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Image Area doesn't respond to mouse.

[Tobias Lunte]

Am 13.07.2013 22:17, schrieb ArRaf:

Help me.
I am new at GIMP and installed the 2.8 today.
After I run it and create new, I can click on the tools, layer windows, and the
pattern and gradients normally(Like how I saw in online videos),
but I can't click on the image/canvas area in the main window.
I can click on the menu bar at the main window, but not the image.
I have tried all tools, but alas it doesn't affect the image.
...and it seems the cursor location at the lower left corner isn't updated.



Reminds me of when tablets aren't recognized, though i've never heard of 
it with the normal mousepointer.
Try opening edit->input devices and check if "core pointer" can be found 
there; its mode should be set to "screen". Don't know if, but hope this 
helps.


bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Clone tool not working

[Tobias Lunte]

Am 13.07.2013 22:27, schrieb Sanjib Sikder:

Hi,

I am using GIMP 2.8.2 on Ubuntu 12.10.
The clone tool seems broken. It can not recognize the CTRL+left click. I
have tried with setting different key, which also does not work.

It always says "Ctrl-click to set a new clone source"

Doing that says "set a source image first"

How do I solve it ?

I have searched Google for a solution for long time and have seen that few
other users also faced the similar issue several times. But I cud not find
a solution which worked for me .

Thanks
-
*SS**
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When using the paintbrush-tool, ctrl-clicking should function as a 
color-picker. Does that work?


bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] gifquestion

[Tobias Lunte]

When exporting the .gif, change "Frame disposal where unspecified" to 
"one frame per layer (replace)". It's two different ways of rendering 
.gif and the other one can reduce the file size, but replace is the 
behaviour most people will expect. maybe it's worth thinking about if it 
should be defaulted in upcoming releases.


bw,
Tobl


Am 28.05.2013 03:09, schrieb Kazuki Takahashi:

well i seem to be having a problem, i know how to make a transparent image
in gimp, and i know how to make gifs in gimp, but if the background is
transparent on the gifs, it shows the previous layer on the gif, how do i
fix that?
p.s whenever i edit gifs, they turn out just fine, but I want to make my
own so...



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Re: [Gimp-user] How to make transparency gradiate?

[Tobias Lunte]

Am 03.05.2013 18:55, schrieb Keith Purtell:
A client has supplied a logo for Web display (PNG). The logo 
background is white and needs to become transparent. I've done this in 
GIMP no problem with simple graphics. However this one features design 
elements that cast a pale gray shadow onto the white background. Not 
sure how to make the transparent background play nice with the shadow 
area?


If it helps, the background color where this logo will be displayed is 
pale gray with a bit of blue tint.


Use the fuzzy select tool (magic wand) to select the background. Then go 
to "select -> grow" and grow by 2 or 3 px to make sure all the 
antialised edges are within the selection, but make sure that no white 
part of the logo itself is selected. Now you can simply use "colours -> 
Colour to alpha" (change the colour in the tools menu to white if 
necessary) and it will perfectly extract the white from your background.


bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Adesso CyberTablet 12000 on Windows

[Tobias Lunte]

Hello,

If you're using 64-bit windows, try this solution Jernej Simonc(ic( has 
offered when the question came up earlier on this mailing list:


Try this: uninstall GIMP 2.8, then run the 2.8.2 installer with /32
parameter (to do this, press the Windows key and R on keyboard, so that the
Run dialog opens; then click Browse and find gimp-2.8.2-setup.exe; back in
the Run dialog add a space and /32 at the end of Open field and click OK).

This'll install 32-bit version of GIMP instead of 64-bit one if you have
64-bit Windows. If the tablet works now, you should contact the
manufacturer, and request 64-bit drivers for the tablet.


I wasn't the OP back then, but I had other non-wacom-tablet-problems, 
which could be resolved this way.


bw,
Tobl
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Re: [Gimp-user] Symmetrical drawing

[Tobias Lunte]

Am 07.04.2013 15:31, schrieb Steve Kinney:

On 04/06/2013 02:28 PM, Christopher Draper wrote:

  Is there a way to do symmetrical drawing on GIMP?

Um... copy a layer or selection, flip it left/right or up/down, and
mask half of it out?

I think he's talking about real-time and I'm afraid it isn't possible in 
gimp, sorry.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP dotted lines

[Tobias Lunte]

how can I draw in GIMP freehanded *_curved_*

interrupted lines (dotted; dot-dash-dot; dash-dash;...) ?


Hello,

I guess you want to draw them "freehanded" as in "just like the 
paintbrush tool".
If you want to do dotted lines (as opposed to dashed ones), you can 
quite easily use the paintbrushitself.
Just open the brushes dialog (ctrl+shift+B or windows->dockable 
dialogues-> brushes)and select a round,(almost) hard brush.
Look at the bottom of the dialogue: there you'll find a slider called 
'spacing', set it to somewhere around 200 to 300 (thesofter the brush, 
the lower the spacing; very soft brushes might only require around 100).
Nowyou can just draw with your paintbrush (or pencil) as you're used to 
and it will give you a nice, evenly dotted line.
dashed or dot-dashed lines could also be created with paintbrush and 
pencil, but would require custom brushes.


bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Creating Transparent Text

[Tobias Lunte]

I've created a quick screencap. Hopefully, this will clear any 
misunderstandings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXKPKMiUko8

bw,
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Am 19.02.2013 18:22, schrieb Helen:

I guess I need more detail.  I've done this, and I'm attaching the
result.  In case attachments aren't allowed, or you can't see it,
 I'll tell you that there is messy white space all the way around the sig.
The steps I took were to open the scanned sig, copy, paste as brush, and
then used it to sign a pix.  White mess all around.
Thanks for any help - I think I  just need more detail.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Steve Kinney <mailto:ad...@pilobilus.net>> wrote:


On 02/19/2013 11:56 AM, Gunold Brunbauer wrote:

> Color -> Color to Transparency

a.k.a. Colors > Color to Alpha

:o)



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Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

[Tobias Lunte]

Hello,


These are some things that make it hard for me. The tool menus unlike PS are not
a part of the main window and seem to be seperate windows on their own (2 of
them) that is annoying
You can turn on single-window mode mode by right-clicking -> Windows -> 
Single-Window Mode



everytime I create a new area, (layer) it opens in yet another window, as does
opening up another file. So if I'm trying to do a signature and I'm using 3 or
even four items, I have that many seperate windows open.
This isn't usual GIMP-behavior. You should check, whether you're 
actually creating new layers or new images. To do so, look at the 
layers-dialogue (usually located to the right of your canvas, you can 
also find it by pressing Ctrl+L). When you create a new layer (resulting 
in a new window being opened), are there two layers shown in the 
dialogue or is it actually a new stack of layers (= new image) with just 
one layer in it?



Also the rectangular selection tool seems to be on all the time whether I select
it or not. I've tried deleting the software and reinstalling but that doesn't
work
Do you mean all the time as in "I cannot select i.e. the paintbrush 
tool"? That would be some pretty serious bug, assuming you know basic 
point-and-click interaction.
However, seeing how you're already talking about adding signatures and 
stuff, it seems more likely that you're confused by the rectangular 
select being the default tool which is active upon startup and often 
becomes the active tool after a task is performed. In Photoshop, the 
default tool is the move tool and you have to select the rect. select if 
you want to use it, in GIMP it's the other way around. It may seem 
unnatural to you due to what you're used too, but it's not "better" or 
"worse" than Photoshop's way (at least there haven't been any user 
studies about it) and I can guarantee you, that it's just as hard 
learning Photoshop after using GIMP as the other way around.
Since there will be similar cases in the future, there is something that 
you should really try to understand: Despite being often described as 
such, GIMP is not "Photoshop for free" or "Photoshop but not as 
powerful" or otherwise "like Photoshop". It is a 
bitmap-manipulation-program (actually an xcf-manipulation-program, but 
let's not dive into that), that is separate and different from Photoshop 
and therefore, some of the operational concepts are different from 
Photoshop's. Sometimes things won't be were they "of course" (also 
called: where you've been trained to expect them by your prior program 
usage) should be, and sometimes you'll be pleasantly surprised by how 
they are arranged in the GIMP. Switching to GIMP isn't 1:1, but if you 
accept that GIMP may follow other premises than Photoshop, and that 
those premises aren't automatically bad just because of that, getting 
used to them isn't really all that hard.


So if everything goes right, this was at least a little helpful,

bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

[Tobias Lunte]

I'm sorry if you get this email twice, but it was returned to sender so 
I'm not sure which of the recipients haven't gotten it.


--

Hello,


These are some things that make it hard for me. The tool menus unlike PS are not
a part of the main window and seem to be seperate windows on their own (2 of
them) that is annoying
You can turn on single-window mode mode by right-clicking -> Windows -> 
Single-Window Mode



everytime I create a new area, (layer) it opens in yet another window, as does
opening up another file. So if I'm trying to do a signature and I'm using 3 or
even four items, I have that many seperate windows open.
This isn't usual GIMP-behavior. You should check, whether you're 
actually creating new layers or new images. To do so, look at the 
layers-dialogue (usually located to the right of your canvas, you can 
also find it by pressing Ctrl+L). When you create a new layer (resulting 
in a new window being opened), are there two layers shown in the 
dialogue or is it actually a new stack of layers (= new image) with just 
one layer in it?



Also the rectangular selection tool seems to be on all the time whether I select
it or not. I've tried deleting the software and reinstalling but that doesn't
work
Do you mean all the time as in "I cannot select i.e. the paintbrush 
tool"? That would be some pretty serious bug, assuming you know basic 
point-and-click interaction.
However, seeing how you're already talking about adding signatures and 
stuff, it seems more likely that you're confused by the rectangular 
select being the default tool which is active upon startup and often 
becomes the active tool after a task is performed. In Photoshop, the 
default tool is the move tool and you have to select the rect. select if 
you want to use it, in GIMP it's the other way around. It may seem 
unnatural to you due to what you're used too, but it's not "better" or 
"worse" than Photoshop's way (at least there haven't been any user 
studies about it) and I can guarantee you, that it's just as hard 
learning Photoshop after using GIMP as the other way around.
Since there will be similar cases in the future, there is something that 
you should really try to understand: Despite being often described as 
such, GIMP is not "Photoshop for free" or "Photoshop but not as 
powerful" or otherwise "like Photoshop". It is a 
bitmap-manipulation-program (actually an xcf-manipulation-program, but 
let's not dive into that), that is separate and different from Photoshop 
and therefore, some of the operational concepts are different from 
Photoshop's. Sometimes things won't be were they "of course" (also 
called: where you've been trained to expect them by your prior program 
usage) should be, and sometimes you'll be pleasantly surprised by how 
they are arranged in the GIMP. Switching to GIMP isn't 1:1, but if you 
accept that GIMP may follow other premises than Photoshop, and that 
those premises aren't automatically bad just because of that, getting 
used to them isn't really all that hard.


So if everything goes right, this was at least a little helpful,

bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] (no subject)

[Tobias Lunte]

Hello,

Yes, this is the right spot to ask questions about using gimp (though 
not as right a place as searching the internet beforehand).
However, it's not entirely clear what it is exactly that you want to do, 
which, i guess, is why you didn't get much of an answer.
My guess is that you're trying to take part of an image and move it to 
somewhere else in the same image. To do that you have to:
1. Select that part of your image (for example using the 
"Rectangle"-Tool that is automatically active when you start GIMP).
2. 'Select -> Float' (or Ctrl+Shift+L). This will lift out the selected 
part from the rest of the image (into a temporary layer, if you're 
familiar with the concept)

3. You can now Drag'n'Drop the part wherever you want.
4. A single click outside the selection will anchor the selected part 
back to the rest of the image. Done.


bw,
Tobl



Am 03.12.2012 00:33, schrieb Christopher Draper:
I'm not sure if this is the right spot but how do I grab an image and 
move it around?


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Re: [Gimp-user] Tablet Problems

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Am 24.11.2012 21:47, schrieb Lagracour Vanee:

Hello,
I am a new GIMP user, and I am having problems using my tablet with GIMP.
I have a WACOM Bamboo Splash tablet and it won't work with GIMP 
(version 2.6.11). I've tried to use the Input Devices in Preferences, 
but when I click 'Configure Extended Input Devices' it says that there 
are no other input devices other than DirectX Direct Input, Mouse 
Wheel, and Keyboard, and yet my tablet is up and running fully.

Any suggestions?
Sekhmet


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Hello,

The list of input devices is created when you start gimp and your tablet 
won't be recognized if it's been inactive until then.

Try using your tablet before starting up gimp.

bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] 8x10 photo without cropping...

[Tobias Lunte]

Am 16.11.2012 22:30, schrieb jenn golden:
Hi - I am a bit of a newbie to this prog. And the issue I am having, 
is that I created a Magazine cover using my son's football pic. To 
make a long story short - I can create a fabulous 4x6, but when I try 
to send it out to blow up to an 8x10, it crops way too much of the 
cover... How do I save or edit the pic as an 8x10 so that I do not 
loose my added graphics and artwork? Please help!  Any suggestions 
would be greatly appreciated!


Jenn


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Hello,

I know, this might be a little bit too much for someone new to the 
program, but one of the better ways to do it would be installing and 
using the liquid rescale-plugin  
(http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/).
It will scale the image instead of cropping it, so there won't be 
anything cut or borders added in. But other than the normal scale-tool, 
it tries to detect important parts of the image (like faces or text) and 
keeps their proportion the same.

Feel free to email me if you decide to do it this way and need some help.

bw,
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Re: [Gimp-user] double exposure

[Tobias Lunte]

Hello,

afaik, the "Screen" blend mode is a more accurate reproduction of a 
double exposure. However, it will brighten up your image, so if the two 
photos weren't underexposed to begin with (which they are when you 
actually make a double-exposure on film), you'll have to adjust the 
values. Don't worry, the Screen mode doesn't result in clipping, so 
usually you don't loose all that much information.


bw,
Tobl



Am 04.11.2012 16:10, schrieb Richard Gitschlag:
If it's the term I'm thinking of there are maybe twenty different ways 
to do this in GIMP.  But all of them have one thing in common - you 
need to import both source images as separate layers in the same image 
window.


From that point you can:
1 - Set the top layer's mode to either Brightest or Addition (neither 
one precisely reproduces an actual double exposure, but they're close)
2 - Keep the top layer's mode Normal and use the Eraser (or a layer 
mask) to fade the edges/transition between them.


-- Stratadrake
strata_ran...@hotmail.com

Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth.



Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:56:58 -0500
From: ellimae...@gmail.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] double exposure

Is there a way to use this program to create a double exposure effect? 
 I can do it with my 35mm camera manually while taking pics.  But was 
not sure if you can create the same digitally??


Thank you!
Jenn

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Re: [Gimp-user] text tool chanes text properties when i paste over old text content

[Tobias Lunte]

Hello,

I don't know the sourcecode and therefore cannot be sure about this, but 
here's what I've concluded from observation:
Text in GIMP saves it's properties in two different places: One set of 
properties that is the standard for the entire text layer and then the 
modified parameters for every letter you change. Unfortunately, by using 
the floating menu you can only change the modified parameters, even if 
you have the entire text selected. So when you delete the entire text 
and start entering a new one (that's also what happens if you selected 
the entire text and start tipping), it uses the layer-wide standard 
properties.
To change those, you have to change them in the tool properties of the 
text tool instead of the floating menu.
Maybe it'd be worth a bug report if there isn't one, requesting to alter 
the layer-wide properties when the entire text is selected.


bw,
Tobl



Am 02.11.2012 04:00, schrieb realbezo:

Hi, i switched gimp 2.6 to 2.8 and new text tool behaves strangely, as i 
remember in gimp 2.6 when i try to change text content with selecting old text 
and pasting new text i could use same text size and same font with my old text 
without doing anything but now in the gim 2.8 whenever i try to change content 
of a text layer i need to choose again font and text size from toolbox options, 
but why do i have to do this, i have a text placed on my image with a certain 
font and certain font size and i just want to alter my text conten not the size 
of text or font , it changes automatically to back text size and font whatever 
i used last  time in another work.

summary: i want to change my text content without setting my font and font size 
properties, i want to use my text layers old properties, please give the 
feature back...



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