Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit

2011-12-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:

 photographer moving from prosumer to professional (hopefully), I am
 wondering about the quality differences between gimp and photoshop,
 especially in the bit rate area.

 Photoshop wins right now

 But Darktable (http://darktable.sf.net/) runs on Mac, right?

1. Not the up to date version.
2. You don't get local editing.

 If you're producing for screen/web at least, 8 bit vs 16 bit doesn't
 matter for a static image in itself

Oh, it does matter :) It's not about viewing, it's about rounding errors.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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[Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit

2011-12-20 Thread Kevin Horkan
I've tried some research on this subject but have come up with little 
definitive information.  I'm new to gimp, have used photoshop some, and am new 
to the iMac and OSx operating system.  As a photographer moving from prosumer 
to professional (hopefully), I am wondering about the quality differences 
between gimp and photoshop, especially in the bit rate area.  If the bit rates 
make a difference to the quality of the finished product (especially prints), 
will gimp be going to higher bit rates, and will this include the mac version?  
Thanks for the help.


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 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:22:14 -0500
 From: Jacob Gorneau jgorn...@gmail.com
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 Hello,
 I have a Macintosh and have recently upgraded to the OS X Lion. I am 
 interested in your GIMP program, and was wondering if you were coming out 
 with a GIMP for the Lion. If not, can I still work with and export photos 
 from the Snow Leopard GIMP?
 Thanks,
 Jacob 
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:24:30 +0100
 From: Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org
 To: Jacob Gorneau jgorn...@gmail.com
 Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp For Lion?
 Message-ID: 1324157070.32591.11.camel@localhost
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 On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:22 -0500, Jacob Gorneau wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a Macintosh and have recently upgraded to the OS X Lion. I am 
 interested in your GIMP program, and was wondering if you were coming out 
 with a GIMP for the Lion. If not, can I still work with and export photos 
 from the Snow Leopard GIMP?
 Thanks,
 Jacob 
 
 If you get very latest pango, gtk+ and gimp (preferrably git master
 of all of them), it works really well on lion. We usually don't do
 installable binaries, unless somebody steps forward and does it.
 
 As a general note (not to you), I hope that whoever decides to package
 gimp as an app bundle this time does is in cooperation with the
 developers, and doesn't just patch it up, dump the patches on some
 unrelated sourceforge project, and provides a bundle to download.
 
 The way the windows packages are done works without *any* patches to
 the source, because the packager hangs out on irc and is an upstream
 developer, whatever gimp needs to be packaged on windows is simply
 in upstream git.
 
 I'm writing this here on gimp-user not to insult or antagonize the
 people who have packaged gimp for mac in the past, but only so that
 everybody can read it: please, come to irc/mailing list/bugzilla
 and tell what patches you need to make gimp properly relocatable,
 bundleable, whatever, and we can work together to get it upstreamed.
 
 thanks,
 --mitch
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:42:24 +0400
 From: Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Splash Image
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Madeleine Fisher wrote:
 I was just reading the list of tasks left on developing GIMP 2.8 and one of
 them was Decide on a splash image. Is this open for submissions or are
 they just trying to pick one from the entries they already have?
 
 Hi Madeleine,
 
 Yes, we are interested to have a choice of potential splash screens from.
 It's probably too late to have a real contestof some sort, but the
 more variants we have, the better choice we can make :)
 
 Alexandre Prokoudine
 http://libregraphicsworld.org
 
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit vs. 16 or more bit

2011-12-20 Thread Tom Cranston
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:06:22 -0500
Kevin Horkan kevh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've tried some research on this subject but have come up
 with little definitive information.  I'm new to gimp,
 have used photoshop some, and am new to the iMac and OSx
 operating system.  As a photographer moving from prosumer
 to professional (hopefully), I am wondering about the
 quality differences between gimp and photoshop,
 especially in the bit rate area.  If the bit rates make a
 difference to the quality of the finished product
 (especially prints), will gimp be going to higher bit
 rates, and will this include the mac version?  Thanks for
 the help.
 
 
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  Hello,
  I have a Macintosh and have recently upgraded to the OS
  X Lion. I am interested in your GIMP program, and was
  wondering if you were coming out with a GIMP for the
  Lion. If not, can I still work with and export photos
  from the Snow Leopard GIMP? Thanks, Jacob 
  
  
  
  
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  Message: 2
  Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:24:30 +0100
  From: Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org
  To: Jacob Gorneau jgorn...@gmail.com
  Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
  gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user]
  Gimp For Lion? Message-ID:
  1324157070.32591.11.camel@localhost Content-Type:
  text/plain; charset=UTF-8
  
  On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:22 -0500, Jacob Gorneau wrote:
  Hello,
  I have a Macintosh and have recently upgraded to the
  OS X Lion. I am interested in your GIMP program, and
  was wondering if you were coming out with a GIMP for
  the Lion. If not, can I still work with and export
  photos from the Snow Leopard GIMP? Thanks, Jacob 
  
  If you get very latest pango, gtk+ and gimp
  (preferrably git master of all of them), it works
  really well on lion. We usually don't do installable
  binaries, unless somebody steps forward and does it.
  
  As a general note (not to you), I hope that whoever
  decides to package gimp as an app bundle this time does
  is in cooperation with the developers, and doesn't just
  patch it up, dump the patches on some unrelated
  sourceforge project, and provides a bundle to download.
  
  The way the windows packages are done works without
  *any* patches to the source, because the packager hangs
  out on irc and is an upstream developer, whatever gimp
  needs to be packaged on windows is simply in upstream
  git.
  
  I'm writing this here on gimp-user not to insult or
  antagonize the people who have packaged gimp for mac in
  the past, but only so that everybody can read it:
  please, come to irc/mailing list/bugzilla and tell what
  patches you need to make gimp properly relocatable,
  bundleable, whatever, and we can work together to get
  it upstreamed.
  
  thanks,
  --mitch
  
  
  
  
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  Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:42:24 +0400
  From: Alexandre Prokoudine
  alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com To:
  gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user]
  Splash Image Message-ID:
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  +rfkupwd5djguq...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type:
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  On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Madeleine Fisher wrote:
  I was just reading the list of tasks left on
  developing GIMP 2.8 and one of them was Decide on a
  splash image. Is this open for submissions or are
  they just trying to pick one from the entries they
  already have?
  
  Hi Madeleine,
  
  Yes, we are interested to have a choice of potential
  splash screens from. It's probably too late to have a
  real contestof some sort, but the more variants we
  have, the better choice we can make :)
  
  Alexandre Prokoudine
  http://libregraphicsworld.org
  
  
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