[Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-10 Thread FallenLegend
>FallenLegend  wrote:
>You should subscribe to the gimp-developer list - a discussion where
>every other message has to be approved manually is not very efficient.

Thank you I just suscribed and sent the email again :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-10 Thread Michael Schumacher


FallenLegend  wrote:
>Thank you for your support guys. I just sent and email to the
>developers... wish
>me luck :)!

You should subscribe to the gimp-developer list - a discussion where every 
other message has to be approved manually is not very efficient.

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[Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-10 Thread FallenLegend
Thank you for your support guys. I just sent and email to the developers... wish
me luck :)!

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-08 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On 8 Jul 2013 17:01, "Alexandre Prokoudine" 
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> > On 8 Jul 2013 14:03, "FallenLegend" wrote:
>
> > You obviously have no idea whose email you just replied to
>
> Why would FallenLegend need to know that? Relax, people can't (and
> shouldn't) know everything, and I wouldn't call myself a developer
> anyway, as opposed to Michael who also replied in the thread :)
>
> Alexandre Prokoudine
> http://libregraphicsworld.org

Fair enough, though I'd expect at least some familiarity with this ml prior
to "hey let's do is cool thing" type posts.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> On 8 Jul 2013 14:03, "FallenLegend" wrote:

> You obviously have no idea whose email you just replied to

Why would FallenLegend need to know that? Relax, people can't (and
shouldn't) know everything, and I wouldn't call myself a developer
anyway, as opposed to Michael who also replied in the thread :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-08 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On 8 Jul 2013 14:03, "FallenLegend"  wrote:
>
> >Imposition? You mean like n-up printing? Why would you do that with
> >GIMP?
> >My impression is that it sounds a bit like "Let's fund anything,
> >anything via Kickstarter!" :) Please let's not try to treat
> >crowdfunding as a silver bullet.
> >
> >The general idea is that the core team already has jobs they like. A
> >crowdfunding effort is possible for other contributors and, in fact,
> >there was a semi-successful case with new samplers in GEGL
> >(
http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/78/add-other-samplers-that-properly-reduce-downsample-and-warp-images
).
> >
> >Again, as Michael stated, this should be discussed on the mailing list
> >for developers.
> >
> >Alexandre Prokoudine
> >http://libregraphicsworld.org
>
> I will try to contact the developers. Hopefully they will agree.
>
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[Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread FallenLegend
>Imposition? You mean like n-up printing? Why would you do that with
>GIMP?
>My impression is that it sounds a bit like "Let's fund anything,
>anything via Kickstarter!" :) Please let's not try to treat
>crowdfunding as a silver bullet.
>
>The general idea is that the core team already has jobs they like. A
>crowdfunding effort is possible for other contributors and, in fact,
>there was a semi-successful case with new samplers in GEGL
>(http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/78/add-other-samplers-that-properly-reduce-downsample-and-warp-images).
>
>Again, as Michael stated, this should be discussed on the mailing list
>for developers.
>
>Alexandre Prokoudine
>http://libregraphicsworld.org

I will try to contact the developers. Hopefully they will agree.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Dominik Tabisz wrote:
> Michael You're right in term of changing something in GIMP as a program 
> itself.
> Not sure how open is this place for users
> (i don't mean how patient are You in case of next flamewar like
> save/export. It's rather how open would You be to questions like: what
> can be done to use GIMP for imposition)

Imposition? You mean like n-up printing? Why would you do that with GIMP?

> What about changing/writing plugins for some special purposes? Is it
> matter for gimp-developer mailing list, or maybe there is already some
> kind of market for such services, or maybe we need such place?

My impression is that it sounds a bit like "Let's fund anything,
anything via Kickstarter!" :) Please let's not try to treat
crowdfunding as a silver bullet.

The general idea is that the core team already has jobs they like. A
crowdfunding effort is possible for other contributors and, in fact,
there was a semi-successful case with new samplers in GEGL
(http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/78/add-other-samplers-that-properly-reduce-downsample-and-warp-images).

Again, as Michael stated, this should be discussed on the mailing list
for developers.

Alexandre Prokoudine
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread Dominik Tabisz
Michael You're right in term of changing something in GIMP as a program itself.
Not sure how open is this place for users
(i don't mean how patient are You in case of next flamewar like
save/export. It's rather how open would You be to questions like: what
can be done to use GIMP for imposition)

What about changing/writing plugins for some special purposes? Is it
matter for gimp-developer mailing list, or maybe there is already some
kind of market for such services, or maybe we need such place?



2013/7/7, Michael Schumacher :
> On 07.07.2013 18:08, Dominik Tabisz wrote:
>
>> Fundraising for one big program/enviroment might be difficult - how do
>> we agree which funcionality should be improved/fixed first?
>
> A first step would be to have this discussion on the gimp-developer
> mailing list, where the current GIMP developers are available.
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 07.07.2013 18:08, Dominik Tabisz wrote:


Fundraising for one big program/enviroment might be difficult - how do
we agree which funcionality should be improved/fixed first?


A first step would be to have this discussion on the gimp-developer 
mailing list, where the current GIMP developers are available.



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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread Dominik Tabisz
Fundraising for one big program/enviroment might be difficult - how do
we agree which funcionality should be improved/fixed first?

Maybe it would be easier to accept GIMP as an ecosystem, and focus on
funding plugins for certain jobs? Or maybe there is already some kind
of market where we can specify what such plugin should do and hire
someone to write it?


Dominik Tabisz

2013/7/7, FallenLegend :
>>I think that your assessment is valid for almost all FOSS software,
>>not just Gimp. Which issues specifically would you like to see fixed
>>with the hypothetical 1 million dollars raised?
>>
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>>http://gibberish.co.il
>>http://what-is-what.com
>
>
> http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/12/top-5-kickstarter-crowdfunding-alternatives-opensource-software.html
>
> (fixed link)
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[Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread FallenLegend
>I think that your assessment is valid for almost all FOSS software,
>not just Gimp. Which issues specifically would you like to see fixed
>with the hypothetical 1 million dollars raised?
>
>--
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>
>http://gibberish.co.il
>http://what-is-what.com


http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/12/top-5-kickstarter-crowdfunding-alternatives-opensource-software.html

(fixed link)

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[Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread FallenLegend
>I think that your assessment is valid for almost all FOSS software,
>not just Gimp. Which issues specifically would you like to see fixed
>with the hypothetical 1 million dollars raised?
>
>--
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>
>http://gibberish.co.il
>http://what-is-what.com



You guys retain the rights of the software. but if you don't feel confortable
with that there are in fact other funding proyects that are similar but for
opensource . Smile.

http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/12/top-5...tware.html

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[Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread FallenLegend
>I think that your assessment is valid for almost all FOSS software,
>not just Gimp. Which issues specifically would you like to see fixed
>with the hypothetical 1 million dollars raised?
>
>--
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>
>http://gibberish.co.il
>http://what-is-what.com

Hello there

I am not a professional at all,so I don't feel the right to say wich features
are must haves. But personally I would like a better UI and improvements for
digital painting :).

I would be happy that the team7community decided which improvents they think
would be the best and more of a priority. I believe GIMP can  be much better
than it already is.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
I think that your assessment is valid for almost all FOSS software,
not just Gimp. Which issues specifically would you like to see fixed
with the hypothetical 1 million dollars raised?

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[Gimp-user] GIMP kickstarter?

2013-07-07 Thread FallenLegend
Hello everyone another fan of GIMP here!

As you know gimp is an awesome program made mainly by passionate volunteers  and
it is open source and completely free.

...Unfortunately that also means that it doesn't get the funding other similar 
"bussiness" projects do. For instance Photoshop, corel painter or paint tool sai
to name a few.

While it's great the fact that this proyect is supported by donations and by the
free work of the developers. I assume that they have other comitments to earn a
living.

I think We all could help (via kickstarter) to fund a "big" jump on this program
Mainly buying more manpower and/or whatever resources the developers might need
to get a lot of improvements in a sh0rter amount of time or even pay the
developers to have them in this proyect longer.

Donations as of now tend to be random and aimless. With a kickstater The GIMP
team could easily get 1 million dollars (or maybe even more)  though donations.
If the people know that they are getting a product they love much faster.

What do you think?

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