Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-06 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 23:29:24 -0400
> From: ptilopt...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
> 
> > *headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
> > documents
> 
> perhaps you should try text instead of html/bloated/drivel
>

No, it was solely the attachment that was at fault (see other topic on GIMP 
.gdyn files).

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-06 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 23:32:08 -0400
> From: ad...@pilobilus.net
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
> 
> Example:  http://pilobilus.net/img/1_dot_brush.gbr
> 
> I don't find a way to set the spacing of a brush "on the fly" in
> GIMP 2.8, maybe that's an oversight on my part.
> 
> Steve

It's easy to miss -- located at the bottom of the Brushes dialog.

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Michael Schumacher  [04-06-13 05:13]:
> On 06.04.2013 05:29, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >* Richard Gitschlag  [04-05-13 21:46]:
> >>>From: dan...@yacg.com
> >>>To: uni.kl...@t-online.de
> >>>Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:12:35 -0400
> >>>CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> >>>Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
> >>>
> >>>The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
> >>>attached images.
> >>
> >>*headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
> >>documents
> >
> >perhaps you should try text instead of html/bloated/drivel
> 
> NB: I'm considering to change the list configuration to drop the html parts
> of messages.

Would be a welcome change and if dropping the "html parts" is not feasible
or easily accomplished, announcing and enforcing rejection of html post
would be acceptable.

thankyou
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Schumacher

On 06.04.2013 05:29, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Richard Gitschlag  [04-05-13 21:46]:

From: dan...@yacg.com
To: uni.kl...@t-online.de
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:12:35 -0400
CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
attached images.


*headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
documents


perhaps you should try text instead of html/bloated/drivel


NB: I'm considering to change the list configuration to drop the html 
parts of messages.



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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Kinney
On 04/05/2013 11:32 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:

> Make a new brush, a generic circle might be just what you want.  In
> the Brush Editor there's a setting for Spacing:  Turn that way up,
> and you get a brush that makes, guess what, evenly spaced dots!
> 
> Example:  http://pilobilus.net/img/1_dot_brush.gbr

Best laid plans, etc.; this does not seem to be the brush I was
looking for.  This one might be closer:

http://pilobilus.net/img/01_dot_brush.vbr

:o)

Steve



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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Steve Kinney
On 04/05/2013 09:50 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote:>

> Didn't somebody else ask this same question just yesterday?

(and proceeded to provide good answers not yet posted here, see
previous in thread)

"There's always another way to do this in the GIMP" is pretty much a
law of nature.  Here's yet another, deceptively simple:

Make a new brush, a generic circle might be just what you want.  In
the Brush Editor there's a setting for Spacing:  Turn that way up,
and you get a brush that makes, guess what, evenly spaced dots!

Example:  http://pilobilus.net/img/1_dot_brush.gbr

I don't find a way to set the spacing of a brush "on the fly" in
GIMP 2.8, maybe that's an oversight on my part.

:o)

Steve
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Gitschlag  [04-05-13 21:46]:
> > From: dan...@yacg.com
> > To: uni.kl...@t-online.de
> > Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:12:35 -0400
> > CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
> > 
> > The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
> > attached images.
> 
> *headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
> documents

perhaps you should try text instead of html/bloated/drivel
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:25:22 -0400
> From: dan...@yacg.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
> 
> I think you can't really do that.  But I will write up a little on how 
> to work with the paths tool to achieve what you want.  It was Inkscape 
> which taught me how to use the paths tool the best, I think, because the 
> way Inkscape works, it's all lines and paths and the like.
> 
> I have to go to work now, but will try to steal a few moments to put 
> something together for you.  I think then it will become much clearer.
> 
> But the short answer is "paths tool" and "paint along path."
> 
> 
> On 04/03/2013 01:19 PM, 3052192 wrote:
> >
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > how can I draw in GIMP freehanded *_curved_*
> >
> > interrupted lines (dotted; dot-dash-dot; dash-dash;...) ?
> >
> > To create lines first with a pencil and to use then the rubber
> >
> > gives uneven and so unsatisfactory results.
> >
> > Thanks for help!
> >
> > Konrad

Didn't somebody else ask this same question just yesterday?

First, as mentioned, you will get smoother results if you use a Path because 
the "Stroke Path" dialog allows you to specify the dash pattern at stroke time. 
 (Note that -- unlike Inkscape -- GIMP has no "freehand path" tool.  The 
closest you get is drawing with the Freehand selector and then converting it to 
a path, minding that it does not work for self-intersecting paths.)

But if you NEED to paint dashed lines using a freehand paint tool this is 
actually still possible, it just requires some configuration first...

1 - Create a custom Gradient that represents the dash pattern you want to draw. 
(Keep in mind that just the same as with stroking a path you can't really do 
"dots" with this method, only "dashes".)

2 - Create a custom Dynamics set that paints using a gradient (there isn't one 
in the default package).  To do this you need to link "Color" to "Fade" on the 
Dynamics mapping .  (Linking "Angle" to "Direction" also helps if you're 
painting with a non-round brush.)

3 - Configure your draw tool (pencil, paintbrush, etc.) to use the gradient, 
the dynamics, and a repeating Fade length (typically sawtooth).

Once you have that, your brush size effectively controls your 'stroke width' 
and 'cap style' (e.g. a round brush yields round caps) and your fade length 
controls the overall length of the pattern.  Then draw away!

The first two steps aren't exactly easy, so I've attached a few sample files to 
demonstrate the process.

[I wanted to include a screenshot as well, but that pushed it over the size 
limits of this mailing list]

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Color-from-gradient.gdyn
Description: Binary data


Dash-dot-Line.ggr
Description: Binary data
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> From: dan...@yacg.com
> To: uni.kl...@t-online.de
> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:12:35 -0400
> CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
> 
> The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
> attached images.

*headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
documents

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Owen
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 19:19:35 +0200
"3052192"  wrote:

> Hi friends,
> 
>  
> 
> how can I draw in GIMP freehanded curved
> 
> interrupted lines (dotted; dot-dash-dot; dash-dash;...) ?
> 



1. Use the Paths Tool to create and edit your shape

2. Make it a selection

3. Stroke selection and select custom stroke (there is a dot dash there)



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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Daniel
I am glad to have been of help.

The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
attached images.

Perhaps we could add this simple tutorial to some other body or
knowledge.  As you already have the write-up and the images, maybe you
could submit it to GimpUsers.com.


On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 21:30 +0200, Uniklaps wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
>  
> 
> thank you for this complete instruction, simply great! This way saves
> lots of time!
> 
> Sorry to hear that you had a quiet morning at the office, but lucky
> for me, lol.
> 
>  
> 
> I wish you a great weekend!
> 
>  
> 
> Yours Konrad
> 
>  
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Daniel [mailto:dan...@yacg.com] 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2013 14:52
> An: 3052192
> Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Betreff: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
> 
>  
> 
> Okay, quiet morning here at the office.  So here goes:
> 
> 1. Starting with a blank image (640x400 in this case) select the Paths
> tool
> 
> 2. Click to draw four points.  Put them anywhere you like, but I
> creatively decided to make an almost straight line.
> 
> 3. Click and drag on any of the line segments you have created.  You
> will notice little handles appear.  These help create the curves we
> will be working with.  (It's not "free hand" but you can get what you
> want this way.)
> 
> 4. Move the handles around to get more dramatic or effective curves.
> Think of the length of the handles as power or influence over the path
> and the direction as the direction.
> 
> 5. Here's the part you have been more interested in I'm sure.  In the
> "Layers, Channels, Paths, Undo" window, select the third tab for
> "Paths" and note the "Unnamed" path there.  Also note the tool buttons
> below the paths list.  The one that looks like a paintbrush is "Paint
> along the path."
> 
> 6. Click the Paint along the path tool and a "Stroke Path" dialog will
> appear.  Look around and play with the options.  I'm going with "Solid
> color" expanding the "Line Style" and selecting "Dash, dot, dot" as my
> dash preset.  (You can create your own patterns)
> 
> 7. Now click the "Stroke" button to see what it does.  If you don't
> like it, do "Edit -> Undo" then go back to "5" to make some
> adjustment.  It's just play, so do what you like!  (I selected to
> "Move" tool to show the results better.)
> 
> 
> So with each step you can see there are variables to play with and
> things you can adjust along the way.  The path examples I illustrated
> give example of different types of curve patterns including a bulge, a
> loop and an S curve.  
> 
> I suspect what you want to do is nothing like what I did.  You may
> want to edit a map image or something like that.  No problem.  My
> favorite way to do this is to open the map image, add a new
> transparent layer on top, and start drawing on that.  Changing colors
> for best effect and all that is good but I'm sure you knew that
> already.  
> 
> I hope this was helpful for you and anyone else interested in this
> topic.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2013-04-03 at 19:19 +0200, 3052192 wrote: 
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
>  
> 
> how can I draw in GIMP freehanded curved
> 
> interrupted lines (dotted; dot-dash-dot; dash-dash;...) ?
> 
>  
> 
> To create lines first with a pencil and to use then the rubber 
> 
> gives uneven and so unsatisfactory results.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for help!
> 
>  
> 
> Konrad
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Daniel Hauck
I think you can't really do that.  But I will write up a little on how 
to work with the paths tool to achieve what you want.  It was Inkscape 
which taught me how to use the paths tool the best, I think, because the 
way Inkscape works, it's all lines and paths and the like.


I have to go to work now, but will try to steal a few moments to put 
something together for you.  I think then it will become much clearer.


But the short answer is "paths tool" and "paint along path."


On 04/03/2013 01:19 PM, 3052192 wrote:


Hi friends,

how can I draw in GIMP freehanded *_curved_*

interrupted lines (dotted; dot-dash-dot; dash-dash;...) ?

To create lines first with a pencil and to use then the rubber

gives uneven and so unsatisfactory results.

Thanks for help!

Konrad



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[Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread 3052192
Hi friends,

 

how can I draw in GIMP freehanded curved

interrupted lines (dotted; dot-dash-dot; dash-dash;...) ?

 

To create lines first with a pencil and to use then the rubber 

gives uneven and so unsatisfactory results.

 

Thanks for help!

 

Konrad

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