Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired
Hi!
On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:09:33 +0200
Jernej Simončič <#/&+-'={*_~}$.`?@eternallybored.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022, 23:49:49, Joel Rees via gimp-user-list wrote:
>
> > Ah, but it's not new and shiny and easy to check off the to-do lists.
>
> Main problem with usenet is the barrier to entry. Everybody has a browser,
> many people use e-mail (mostly only for work), but barely anybody still uses
> a newsreader (or even knows that they exist and what Usenet even is).
>
There is "google groups": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Groups .
"usenet is the old reddit" ;]
re "barrier to entry" see:
https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/philosophy/putting-cards-on-the-table-2019-2020/#selling-for-stupider-ppl
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Road#A_metaphorical_%22Royal_Road%22_in_famous_quotations
.
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Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired
From: =?utf-8?Q?Jernej_Simon Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:09:33 +0200 > ... barely anybody still uses a newsreader (or even knows that > they exist ... There's something for that. Documentation. A half page should be enough to deploy a news reader. =8~) The reader I use is almost trivial to configure and use. Meanwhile the browser wallows in JavaScript. =8~/ > ... and what Usenet even is). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet Incidentally, the source of the news module here is 46 kB. Depending upon font size, roughly 30 pages of readily digestible code. Object file is 65 kB. In Debian 11, i386, Firefox-esr, installed size is 227 MB. That's roughly 3500 times the size of the object file noted above! Is any technology less efficient than a contemporary commercial computing system? Regards, ... P. mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired
2022年10月21日(金) 5:21 : > Dave & all, > > From: dboland9 via gimp-user-list > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:51:45 + > > There really must be a better way. > > Usenet, invented more than 40 years ago. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet > > A small screenshot from recent submissions here. > http://easthope.ca/sci.electronics.repair.png > > The small proportion of spam is tolerable. > > Regards, ... P. > Ah, but it's not new and shiny and easy to check off the to-do lists. _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] News list being retired
Dave & all, From: dboland9 via gimp-user-list Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 18:51:45 + > There really must be a better way. Usenet, invented more than 40 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet A small screenshot from recent submissions here. http://easthope.ca/sci.electronics.repair.png The small proportion of spam is tolerable. Regards, ... P. mobile: +1 778 951 5147 VoIP: +1 604 670 0140 https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:PeterEasthope ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] News list being retired
I see that the plan is to go to yet another web based mess. I don't care for the idea of having to have an ID and PW to ask a question. Please at least consider guest accounts, or re-think the whole idea. There really must be a better way. Dave, Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] list bounces
James, you seem to be subscribed normally, I didn't see anything special, do things work again in the meantime? Regards, Mitch On Sat, 2018-08-04 at 10:16 -0700, James Moe wrote: > Hello, > I received a notice that am excessive number of messages were > bounced > and my membership has been suspended, and that I should confirm I > exist. > Looking into this I discovered this in our spam filter: > > 2018-08-03_07:39:31 07170-11809 [Worker_1] [TLS-in] [TLS-out] > 209.132.180.187 to: > ji...@sohnen-moe.com [SMTP Error] 554 5.7.1 DNS Blacklisted by > safe.dnsbl.sorbs.net > > Oops. > _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] [OT] list bounces
Hello, I received a notice that am excessive number of messages were bounced and my membership has been suspended, and that I should confirm I exist. Looking into this I discovered this in our spam filter: 2018-08-03_07:39:31 07170-11809 [Worker_1] [TLS-in] [TLS-out] 209.132.180.187 to: ji...@sohnen-moe.com [SMTP Error] 554 5.7.1 DNS Blacklisted by safe.dnsbl.sorbs.net Oops. -- James Moe moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com 520.743.3936 Think. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
And Alex explained why this is happening a month ago: https://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-user-list@gnome.org/msg13187.html Kevin From: gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org> on behalf of ugajin <uga...@zoho.com> Sent: 10 April 2018 16:12 To: Carol Spears Cc: Andrew; gimp Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue I too, often receive bursts of 'late' messages but today[April 10, 2018] is exceptional. I had 100 messages waiting in my inbox. The earliest of which is dated March 15, 2018 with the subject line 'How to print'. Ironically, this is dated the same as yours! -u On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 01:33:42 + Carol Spearscarol.spe...@gmail.com wrote On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:48 AM, Andrew andrew.alangdondavies...@smtp.gnome.org wrote: On 13/03/18 07:16, Ben Oliver wrote: Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. Does anyone else have this issue? Happens to me too. Pretty sure they're not duplicates. I made their web site install by just typing "make", basically. So now I wonder if it is a clog in the approval filter which is perhaps on someones phone *or* someone needs to type make somewhere carol _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list> ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
I too, often receive bursts of 'late' messages but today[April 10, 2018] is exceptional. I had 100 messages waiting in my inbox. The earliest of which is dated March 15, 2018 with the subject line 'How to print'. Ironically, this is dated the same as yours! -u On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 01:33:42 + Carol Spearscarol.spe...@gmail.com wrote On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:48 AM, Andrew andrew.alangdondavies...@smtp.gnome.org wrote: On 13/03/18 07:16, Ben Oliver wrote: Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. Does anyone else have this issue? Happens to me too. Pretty sure they're not duplicates. I made their web site install by just typing "make", basically. So now I wonder if it is a clog in the approval filter which is perhaps on someones phone *or* someone needs to type make somewhere carol _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:48 AM, Andrew < andrew.alangdondavies...@smtp.gnome.org> wrote: > On 13/03/18 07:16, Ben Oliver wrote: > >> Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some >> of which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. >> >> Does anyone else have this issue? >> > > Happens to me too. Pretty sure they're not duplicates. > > I made their web site install by just typing "make", basically. So now I wonder if it is a clog in the approval filter which is perhaps on someones phone *or* someone needs to type make somewhere.... carol _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
On 13/03/18 07:16, Ben Oliver wrote: Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. Does anyone else have this issue? Happens to me too. Pretty sure they're not duplicates. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
On 18-03-13 11:32:18, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Ben Oliver wrote: Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. Does anyone else have this issue? Trying to work out if it's a problem with the list or my email! I'm not seeing it anywhere else however. Some people post to this list without subscribing. This means the mailing list administrator has to manually approve them. He does so when he has time, so some messages are days old indeed. Alex Ah yes of course, that makes sense. Ignore me! ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Ben Oliver wrote: > Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of > which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. > > Does anyone else have this issue? Trying to work out if it's a problem with > the list or my email! I'm not seeing it anywhere else however. Some people post to this list without subscribing. This means the mailing list administrator has to manually approve them. He does so when he has time, so some messages are days old indeed. Alex ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Brendan Mullally wrote: > Unsubscribe! You are welcome to do it here: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list Alex ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
Unsubscribe! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Ben Oliver <b...@bfoliver.com> wrote: > > Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of > which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. > > Does anyone else have this issue? Trying to work out if it's a problem with > the list or my email! I'm not seeing it anywhere else however. > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
Yes! Been happening for fucking years!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Ben Oliver <b...@bfoliver.com> wrote: > > Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of > which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. > > Does anyone else have this issue? Trying to work out if it's a problem with > the list or my email! I'm not seeing it anywhere else however. > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Mailing list issue
Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, some of which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates. Does anyone else have this issue? Trying to work out if it's a problem with the list or my email! I'm not seeing it anywhere else however. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] User List email often arrives as one long line
I have noticed this with other people's queries/answers, but today after writing a [partial] reply to someone's question, my answer (and the original question) appeared to be one long line. My answer was not formatted that way. As you would expect, this is very hard to read. I am assuming that something is happening to the messages at your end, before they are distributed by email to all subscribers, but I suppose it could be something to do with my email server (AOL). NOT all user list emails are this way, but some are. Are other people experiencing the same thing? If so, perhaps something in the email causes formatting to be discarded... -Scott Jacobs I would send screenshots of both my sent email, and the user-list email as received, but I seem to recall one cannot attach files... I know there are links to files in the body of some emails, but don't know how people are accomplishing this. If someone could explain this, I will try to send the screenshots... ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list subscription
Am 12.10.2016 um 22:10 schrieb Tania Farries: > > Hello, > Please could you tell me how I get to the subscription page where I choose my > preferences. I do not want to receive everyone's email requests if that is > possible. I am receiving too many in my inbox. Many thanks. > Kind regards > Tania > Sent from my iPad > _______ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list HERE- > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Mailing list subscription
Hello, Please could you tell me how I get to the subscription page where I choose my preferences. I do not want to receive everyone's email requests if that is possible. I am receiving too many in my inbox. Many thanks. Kind regards Tania Sent from my iPad ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Accessory List
On 10/15/2015 02:30 PM, Nick Longobardi wrote: > Hello, I was reccommended to gimp my a fellow graphics worker and wanted to > ask about some accessories. She said it's very close to Adobe Photoshop and > I am mainly looking for the special magic eraiser that can erase within a > predetermined shape, say making the inside of a square transparent but > having the borders still There's lots of ways to do that, but first: Do be aware that the GIMP is a "full featured" image editor; doing simple things with it is easy, but not obvious unless you have used it before, or checked the manual for instructions. The GIMP is more or less interchangeable with Photoshop in terms of end results, but their commands and "native workflow" are only deceptively similar; they really are two different beasts. To erase within a predetermined shape, is really the same thing as filling a predetermined shape with one color: The "erase" part is one step, but drawing the shape for your hole will take more or less effort considering how complex the shape is. For instance, neatly cutting out photos of people is a chore, while neatly cutting out rectangles of any size is a breeze. One of the /many/ ways to "make a square transparent" while leaving the picture around it alone: 1) Open your original image in the GIMP. 2) You should see the image in one big window, and a way smaller thumbnail of the image will show up in your Layers dialog box. If you see that thumbnail, click it with your right mouse button; if not, use the menu above your image to select Layer > Transparency > Add Alpha Channel - if Add Alpha Channel is grayed out, that means your image already has an Alpha channel. The Alpha channel is the part of an image file that stores "transparency," so you need that Alpha channel for the job at hand, "cutting a hole." JPG files don't have it, PNG files do. 3) Left click on the toolbox button for "rectangle select." It should be at the top left corner of the field of tool buttons. It has a rectangle on it. 4) Right click inside your main image window (the "canvas"), hold the button down and drag it across the image to select your rectangle. When you let go, you will see its outline. Move your mouse over this outline near the edges to get "handles" you can click and drag to adjust your rectangle. Do that until it's "just right." 5) On your keyboard, do Control+x to delete the selected area. You should see it replaced with a dark checkerboard pattern. That's it, your mission is accomplished. 6) Save your work. On your keyboard, do Control+s. The Save Image dialog box will open, just click the save button. This gives you an XCF file, that is, a GIMP file that allows you to pick up where you left off if you need to make changes or additions to your work. 7) Create a new image file. On your keyboard, do Control+e. The Export Image dialog box will open. Save your image as "some-name.png" The .png at the end tells the GIMP to save the image in that format, which has an alpha channel and will preserve your hole "as a hole" rather than filling it with a background color (i.e. white). But that png file sounds pretty useless to me, without something to fill the hole you made. So now let's go back a couple of steps: 5) When you are satisfied with your selection, find the Foreground and Background Colors selector, in the Toolbox below the buttons: A black rectangle over a white one would be typical. Left click the top one to open your color selector. Click and drag in the big rectangle and the tall skinny rainbow to get the color you want. 5) When you've got the right color, click OK to close the color selector. With your mouse, drag and drop the top color in the color selector into your image canvas. Viola, your selection is filled with that color. Then proceed to save and export the image as above. If you want to fill that rectangle or other shape with part of some other image, that's not at all hard: Add the image you want to include to the open image file in by dragging and dropping it from its file folder or your desktop into the image canvas. You will put it under the layer you cut a hole in and viola, it shows through. But it's best to learn about layers in GIMP images here: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-layer-menu.html :o) Steve _______ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Accessory List
Hello, I was reccommended to gimp my a fellow graphics worker and wanted to ask about some accessories. She said it's very close to Adobe Photoshop and I am mainly looking for the special magic eraiser that can erase within a predetermined shape, say making the inside of a square transparent but having the borders still -- Nicholas Longobardi ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] this list
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:42 AM, John A. Wallace wrote: Hello. Is this list delivered to a mail2news gateway like gmane or something similar so that I can access it with a newsreader? Thanks. Google to the rescue :) http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] this list
Okay, my bad. It must have been way, way too late when I checked because I surely did but couldn't see it listed. Thanks. -Original Message- From: gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto:gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Prokoudine Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:13 AM To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] this list On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:42 AM, John A. Wallace wrote: Hello. Is this list delivered to a mail2news gateway like gmane or something similar so that I can access it with a newsreader? Thanks. Google to the rescue :) http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.user Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] this list
Hello. Is this list delivered to a mail2news gateway like gmane or something similar so that I can access it with a newsreader? Thanks. If you have a Google account(or maybe you don't need one) you can access the gimp-user mail list Search Google groups for Gimp-user -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
