Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
According to the current documentation, Tcl is still available!: http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-concepts-script-fu.html Sadly I don't think it's true, and the TkInter support didn't get included in the bundled Python, so we can't have the native file-open dialog and have to use the GTK abomination. Kevin > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:48:40 +0300 > From: alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Ofnuts wrote: > > On 09/08/15 02:28, Kevin Cozens wrote: > >> > >> On 15-08-08 12:11 PM, Ofnuts wrote: > >>> > >>> Which of the two scripting languages are you talking about? > >> > >> > >> Two? There are four. Two of the four see the most use. > >> > > > > Two of the four are also available out of the box. I know about Perl, what > > is the fourth one? (C doesn't count as a "scripting" language) > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-ruby > > Alex > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Ofnuts wrote: > On 09/08/15 02:28, Kevin Cozens wrote: >> >> On 15-08-08 12:11 PM, Ofnuts wrote: >>> >>> Which of the two scripting languages are you talking about? >> >> >> Two? There are four. Two of the four see the most use. >> > > Two of the four are also available out of the box. I know about Perl, what > is the fourth one? (C doesn't count as a "scripting" language) https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-ruby Alex ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
On 09/08/15 02:28, Kevin Cozens wrote: On 15-08-08 12:11 PM, Ofnuts wrote: Which of the two scripting languages are you talking about? Two? There are four. Two of the four see the most use. Two of the four are also available out of the box. I know about Perl, what is the fourth one? (C doesn't count as a "scripting" language) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
George M writes: > Lol, nope not a friend of the Devs, but I wouldn't mind being one ;) I think you are now. :-) > I've used several graphics apps in the past. One of the most notable was > Paint Shop Pro. Which I actually really liked. Before Corel got their claws > on it, it was a really good program. I also started with early Paintshop Pro. I quite liked it, but I never did anything complex with it, mostly just crop/scale/brightness/ contrast. I didn't delve into anything harder until I'd switched to GIMP. I only used Photoshop a little and found it baffling. (I confess I found GIMP a bit challenging at first too, but it was easier than Photoshop.) But that was a long time ago, before I switched to full-time Linux. ...Akkana ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
On 15-08-08 12:11 PM, Ofnuts wrote: Which of the two scripting languages are you talking about? Two? There are four. Two of the four see the most use. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful!" #include | --Chris Hardwick ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
On 08/08/15 17:52, George M wrote: My only criticism (of GIMP) is the ability, or lack of, for batch image processing. After spending some time poking at the program itself, and coming up empty handed, I looked at GIMP's scripting language. For everything GIMP is, the scripting language is most decidedly NOT. It's not intuitive, practical, or even usable unless you're one of the coders that wrote that particular function, lol. I'm sure it's very powerful, but I have yet to make any headway with using it; finding it to be unnecessarily obtuse. Which of the two scripting languages are you talking about? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 17:50:39 -0400 > From: Jay Smith > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP > Message-ID: <55c5282f.3020...@jaysmith.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >> On 08/07/2015 05:28 PM, George Misdary wrote: >> >> I'm not certain if this is the right place for this, but here goes, >> A few weeks ago I was on a mission to find a simple, yet effective, image >> editing program for a project I'm working on.After several frustrating >> experiences with a bunch of 'complete duds' and 'nice trys', I finally came >> across the GIMP. >> Within a few minutes of using GIMP, my reaction was simply WOW! Over the few >> weeks since I've been using it, that reaction has only continued to flourish >> and expand.In every step, so far, I've found GIMP to be unbelievably >> intuitive, logical, stable, capable, powerful, and simply brilliant to >> use.It is far and away one of the best programs I've ever used, not only as >> a graphics program but period!For every function that I thought "Hmm, it'd >> be nice if ...", within a few seconds/minutes of poking around on the >> hyper-intuitive interface; I've not only found exactly what I was looking >> for, but something-like a dozen other ways to expand upon what I was looking >> for. Rarely do I find this level of... maturity in a program and for a >> program that is released for free none-the-less, I'm simply blown away!!I'm >> not exaggerating when I say that on a practically daily basis, that I've >> used GIMP, I find myself saying "I really love this program". >> I'm sure you hear things like this fairly regularly, but I still wanted to >> send this email to give a HUGE shout-out to the developers, contributors, >> and all involved with making this such a kick-a## product! >> Kudos and THANK YOU!!! >> Regards,GM > > George, > > If I did not know better, I would think you were a friend of one of the > developers. :-) > > Seriously I do have a question: What other image editing program(s) do > you have experience with? (Not just "tried them", but actual > significant use.) > > My reason for asking is that Gimp is sometimes more intuitive for people > who don't have a lot of experience with another image program (because > they are somewhat expecting things to be like that other program). > > You are a bit special -- in my experience, most people have a more > difficult learning curve than you seem to have had. > > Jay > > Hi Jay, Lol, nope not a friend of the Devs, but I wouldn't mind being one ;) I've used several graphics apps in the past. One of the most notable was Paint Shop Pro. Which I actually really liked. Before Corel got their claws on it, it was a really good program. But even it was a bit of a bear to use a lot of times and was not anywhere near as intuitive as GIMP (in my opinion). I've used Photoshop. And while it is without a doubt incredibly powerful, it's also incredibly cumbersome and burdensome to use. If I had a need for all of its extra stuff (and beaucoup $$$) I might feel differently. But I did not find my experience with it nearly as pleasant, or at all. During my recent search I've downloaded Krita and found it to be an unholy mess to use. It has a lot of potential. But it was just... well anyway this is not the venue for that. But my experience with it was a large reason for prompting me to write my email above :) Plus I've used other similar apps, on and off over the years. But you are right, I definitely don't have a lot of experience with using image programs extensively. Usually I get one, use it for the process/project/etc I want, then will likely not access it again for a while. My current project, however, I've used GIMP extensively. And I will be using it for some time yet to come. And I continue to be pleased with its ease of use, vast array of usable options, and overall versatility and stability. My only criticism (of GIMP) is the ability, or lack of, for batch image processing. After spending some time poking at the program itself, and coming up empty handed, I looked at GIMP's scripting language. For everything GIMP is, the scripting language is most decidedly NOT. It's not intuitive, practical, or even usable unless you're one of the coders that wrote that particular function, lol. I'm sure it's very powerful, but I have yet to make any headway with using it; finding it to be unnecessarily obtuse. I did fortunately discover BIMP and I am once again doing the happy GIMP dance <--- you don't want to see what *that* looks like, but at least it is happy :) GM ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
On 08/07/2015 05:50 PM, Jay Smith wrote: > My reason for asking is that Gimp is sometimes more intuitive for > people who don't have a lot of experience with another image program > (because they are somewhat expecting things to be like that other > program). And vice versa. I have been using the GIMP since Tor Lillqvist's early Windows ports, and during that time I have twice tried to use Photoshop. Got the program, manuals, tutorials, etc. and, both times, gave it up as impossible. Obviously, this is not the experience people who stated out with that program have. Aside from the GNU utilitis, BASH shell, etc., I do believe the GIMP is the most "mature" application in the Free Software ecosystem. I look forward to version 3 with a mixture of glee and dread. Glee, because I know it will solve problems and remove a lot of limits. Dread, because I know it will make a lot of my favorite tricks obsolete, which means re-learning old habits with new tricks. :o) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
On 08/07/2015 05:28 PM, George Misdary wrote: I'm not certain if this is the right place for this, but here goes, A few weeks ago I was on a mission to find a simple, yet effective, image editing program for a project I'm working on.After several frustrating experiences with a bunch of 'complete duds' and 'nice trys', I finally came across the GIMP. Within a few minutes of using GIMP, my reaction was simply WOW! Over the few weeks since I've been using it, that reaction has only continued to flourish and expand.In every step, so far, I've found GIMP to be unbelievably intuitive, logical, stable, capable, powerful, and simply brilliant to use.It is far and away one of the best programs I've ever used, not only as a graphics program but period!For every function that I thought "Hmm, it'd be nice if ...", within a few seconds/minutes of poking around on the hyper-intuitive interface; I've not only found exactly what I was looking for, but something-like a dozen other ways to expand upon what I was looking for. Rarely do I find this level of... maturity in a program and for a program that is released for free none-the-less, I'm simply blown away!!I'm not exaggerating when I say that on a practically daily basis, that I've used GIMP, I find myself saying "I really love this program". I'm sure you hear things like this fairly regularly, but I still wanted to send this email to give a HUGE shout-out to the developers, contributors, and all involved with making this such a kick-a## product! Kudos and THANK YOU!!! Regards,GM George, If I did not know better, I would think you were a friend of one of the developers. :-) Seriously I do have a question: What other image editing program(s) do you have experience with? (Not just "tried them", but actual significant use.) My reason for asking is that Gimp is sometimes more intuitive for people who don't have a lot of experience with another image program (because they are somewhat expecting things to be like that other program). You are a bit special -- in my experience, most people have a more difficult learning curve than you seem to have had. Jay ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
