Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

2013-01-22 Thread Greg Chapman
On 22 Jan 13 21:59 RogueRanger for...@gimpusers.com said:
 everytime I create a new area, (layer) it opens in yet another 
 window,

Have you tried turning on:

Windows  Single-window mode ?

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Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

2013-01-22 Thread Tobias Lunte
I'm sorry if you get this email twice, but it was returned to sender so 
I'm not sure which of the recipients haven't gotten it.


--

Hello,


These are some things that make it hard for me. The tool menus unlike PS are not
a part of the main window and seem to be seperate windows on their own (2 of
them) that is annoying
You can turn on single-window mode mode by right-clicking - Windows - 
Single-Window Mode



everytime I create a new area, (layer) it opens in yet another window, as does
opening up another file. So if I'm trying to do a signature and I'm using 3 or
even four items, I have that many seperate windows open.
This isn't usual GIMP-behavior. You should check, whether you're 
actually creating new layers or new images. To do so, look at the 
layers-dialogue (usually located to the right of your canvas, you can 
also find it by pressing Ctrl+L). When you create a new layer (resulting 
in a new window being opened), are there two layers shown in the 
dialogue or is it actually a new stack of layers (= new image) with just 
one layer in it?



Also the rectangular selection tool seems to be on all the time whether I select
it or not. I've tried deleting the software and reinstalling but that doesn't
work
Do you mean all the time as in I cannot select i.e. the paintbrush 
tool? That would be some pretty serious bug, assuming you know basic 
point-and-click interaction.
However, seeing how you're already talking about adding signatures and 
stuff, it seems more likely that you're confused by the rectangular 
select being the default tool which is active upon startup and often 
becomes the active tool after a task is performed. In Photoshop, the 
default tool is the move tool and you have to select the rect. select if 
you want to use it, in GIMP it's the other way around. It may seem 
unnatural to you due to what you're used too, but it's not better or 
worse than Photoshop's way (at least there haven't been any user 
studies about it) and I can guarantee you, that it's just as hard 
learning Photoshop after using GIMP as the other way around.
Since there will be similar cases in the future, there is something that 
you should really try to understand: Despite being often described as 
such, GIMP is not Photoshop for free or Photoshop but not as 
powerful or otherwise like Photoshop. It is a 
bitmap-manipulation-program (actually an xcf-manipulation-program, but 
let's not dive into that), that is separate and different from Photoshop 
and therefore, some of the operational concepts are different from 
Photoshop's. Sometimes things won't be were they of course (also 
called: where you've been trained to expect them by your prior program 
usage) should be, and sometimes you'll be pleasantly surprised by how 
they are arranged in the GIMP. Switching to GIMP isn't 1:1, but if you 
accept that GIMP may follow other premises than Photoshop, and that 
those premises aren't automatically bad just because of that, getting 
used to them isn't really all that hard.


So if everything goes right, this was at least a little helpful,

bw,
Tobias Lunte//Tobl
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Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

2013-01-22 Thread Tobias Lunte

Hello,


These are some things that make it hard for me. The tool menus unlike PS are not
a part of the main window and seem to be seperate windows on their own (2 of
them) that is annoying
You can turn on single-window mode mode by right-clicking - Windows - 
Single-Window Mode



everytime I create a new area, (layer) it opens in yet another window, as does
opening up another file. So if I'm trying to do a signature and I'm using 3 or
even four items, I have that many seperate windows open.
This isn't usual GIMP-behavior. You should check, whether you're 
actually creating new layers or new images. To do so, look at the 
layers-dialogue (usually located to the right of your canvas, you can 
also find it by pressing Ctrl+L). When you create a new layer (resulting 
in a new window being opened), are there two layers shown in the 
dialogue or is it actually a new stack of layers (= new image) with just 
one layer in it?



Also the rectangular selection tool seems to be on all the time whether I select
it or not. I've tried deleting the software and reinstalling but that doesn't
work
Do you mean all the time as in I cannot select i.e. the paintbrush 
tool? That would be some pretty serious bug, assuming you know basic 
point-and-click interaction.
However, seeing how you're already talking about adding signatures and 
stuff, it seems more likely that you're confused by the rectangular 
select being the default tool which is active upon startup and often 
becomes the active tool after a task is performed. In Photoshop, the 
default tool is the move tool and you have to select the rect. select if 
you want to use it, in GIMP it's the other way around. It may seem 
unnatural to you due to what you're used too, but it's not better or 
worse than Photoshop's way (at least there haven't been any user 
studies about it) and I can guarantee you, that it's just as hard 
learning Photoshop after using GIMP as the other way around.
Since there will be similar cases in the future, there is something that 
you should really try to understand: Despite being often described as 
such, GIMP is not Photoshop for free or Photoshop but not as 
powerful or otherwise like Photoshop. It is a 
bitmap-manipulation-program (actually an xcf-manipulation-program, but 
let's not dive into that), that is separate and different from Photoshop 
and therefore, some of the operational concepts are different from 
Photoshop's. Sometimes things won't be were they of course (also 
called: where you've been trained to expect them by your prior program 
usage) should be, and sometimes you'll be pleasantly surprised by how 
they are arranged in the GIMP. Switching to GIMP isn't 1:1, but if you 
accept that GIMP may follow other premises than Photoshop, and that 
those premises aren't automatically bad just because of that, getting 
used to them isn't really all that hard.


So if everything goes right, this was at least a little helpful,

bw,
Tobias Lunte//Tobl
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Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

2013-01-21 Thread Burnie West

On 01/21/2013 03:49 PM, RogueRanger wrote:

When I make these, taking stock photographs and using the lasso selection tool
in CS4, I have an option by right clicking on my selection and choosing
'feather' which softens the edges of the selection and makes it look less like a
simple cut out. Does anyone know how to achieve the same result with Gimp?
Select the lasso (actually, any) selection tool in GIMP, check the feather and 
possibly antialiasing checkbox(es), then make your selection. You can adjust 
the amount of feathering; the feathering will approximately bridge the selection 
line, so the selection will include roughly r/2 pixels outside the line and r/2 
inside, where r is the feathering Radius. The number r can be as small or 
as large as you like, in tenths of a pixel.

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Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

2013-01-21 Thread Greg Chapman
Hi,

On 21 Jan 13 23:49 RogueRanger for...@gimpusers.com said:
 I have an option by right clicking on my selection and choosing
 'feather'...Does anyone know how to achieve the same result with
 Gimp?

Make your selection, right-click anywhwere on the image, choose 
Select then Feather, choose the feathering options on the dialogue
that appears. How much easier/similar do you want? :-)

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Re: [Gimp-user] newvie asks differences between Gimp and Photoshop

2013-01-21 Thread Burnie

On 01/21/2013 03:49 PM, RogueRanger wrote:

When I make these, taking stock photographs and using the lasso selection tool
in CS4, I have an option by right clicking on my selection and choosing
'feather' which softens the edges of the selection and makes it look less like a
simple cut out. Does anyone know how to achieve the same result with Gimp?
Select the lasso (actually, any) selection tool in GIMP, check the feather and 
possibly antialiasing checkbox(es), then make your selection. You can adjust 
the amount of feathering; the feathering will approximately bridge the selection 
line, so the selection will include roughly r/2 pixels outside the line and r/2 
inside, where r is the feathering Radius. The number r can be as small or 
as large as you like, in tenths of a pixel.

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