Re: [PATCH] Debian packaging for 0.99.4
On Thursday 11 August 2005 15:11, Junio C Hamano wrote: >Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >>> People still use GNU Interactive Tools. Not just crazy, stupid >>> people, and I bet not just Debian people. >> >> Why do you say that? >> >> Do you have anybody who actually does, or are you just claiming >> so? > >Debian folks have a handy way to substantiate that claim or get >that claim proven wrong, and I am somewhat surprised that nobody >mentioned it so far. > >Debian popularity contest (http://popcon.debian.org/). > >Here is an excerpt I just made. > > is the package name; > is the number of people who installed this package; > is the number of people who use this package regularly; > is the number of people who installed, but don't use > this package regularly; > is the number of people who upgraded this package > recently; > >rank nameinstvote old recent >1 base-files 71476777 158212 >2 base-passwd 71476724 163260 >3 debianutils 71476739 120288 >4 sed 71476763 155229 >... >6591 git 114 24 83 7 >... >2 git-core 2 1 0 1 (Not in sid) >29939 cogito-scm 1 0 1 0 (Not in sid) >... >46416 zope2.60 0 0 0 >- >46416 Total6768849 2118048 2306009 595621 > >So yes, among 46.5K packages in the known universe, the other >git ranks 6600th. Does that mean it is popular? I dunno. > >Obviously, not everybody who installs Debian participates in >popcon. The sample size of the above statistics is 7147 >installations of base-files. > >Among these 7147 sample installations, the other git was >installed by 114 people, and 24 people regularly use it. This obviously is not even a fair assesment of the potential popularity of this new kernel package admin tool. By holding to this attitude, you will surely alienate linux users away from debian. If so far, only 114 people out of the 7147 who were kind enough to fill out a questionaire have installed the debian 'git' and 24 report that they are using this tool, then obviously once a stable release of the Linus version of git has been achieved, the user count of the new tool will handily exceed the user count of the older and totally different toolkit from gnu. This will occur within 24 hours of a working, stable release of the Linus git. Possibly aleady has occured, I have it (the rpm) here already. Methinks its a good time for one or the other to come up with a new name. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Last mile to 1.0?
Duplicate send, had typo in orif address line :( On Saturday 23 July 2005 04:50, Ryan Anderson wrote: >On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 10:46:00AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> - Publicity. I would be very happy to see somebody with good >>writing and summarizing skills to prepare an article to be >>published on LWN.NET to coincide with the 1.0 release. An >>update to GIT traffic would also be nice. > >How is this for a start? > >Source Code Management with Git > >Git, sometimes called "global information tracker", is a "directory >content manager". Git has been designed to handle absolutely > massive projects with speed and efficiency, and the release of the > 2.6.12 and (soon) the 2.6.13 version of the Linux kernel would > indicate that it does this task well. > >Git falls into the category of distributed source code management > tools, similar to Arch or Darcs (or, in the commercial world, > BitKeeper). This means that every working directory is a > full-fledged repository with full revision tracking capabilities. > >Git uses the SHA1 hash algorithm to provide a content-addressable > pseudo filesystem, complete with its own version of fsck. > o Speed of use, both for the project maintainer, and the > end-users, is a key development principle. > o The history is stored as a directed acyclic graph, making > long-lived branches and repeated merging simple. > o A collection of related projects are building on the core Git >project, either to provide an easier to use interface on top > (Darcs, Mercurial, StGit, Cogito), or to take some of the > underlying concepts and reimplement them directly into another > system (Arch 2.0). o Two, interchangeable, on-disk formats are > used: >o An efficient, packed format that saves spaced and network > bandwidth. >o An unpacked format, optimized for fast writes and incremental > work. > A very good start for the overview preamble. Do carry on. >Git results from the inspiration and frustration of Linus Torvalds, > and the enthusiastic help of over 300 participants on the > development mailing list.[1] > > >1 - Generated with the following, in a maildir folder: > find . -type f | xargs grep -h "^From:" | perl -ne \ > 'tr#A-Z#a-z#; m#<(.*)># && print $1,"\n";' | sort -u | wc -l -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: Last mile to 1.0?
On Saturday 23 July 2005 04:15, Ryan Anderson wrote: >On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 10:46:00AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: >> I do not know what release plan Linus has in mind, and also >> expect things to be quieter next week during OLS and kernel >> summit, but I think we are getting really really close. > >Looking at the set of patches we just all dumped on Linus, I think > they pretty much show us that we don't have any major issues. > >As I see it, the status is currently like this: > >Revision control - Stable >Pulling locally or over rsync - Stable >Pushing over ssh - Stable > >Remote, anonymous pulls not using rsync - Beta >Usability features[1] - Beta > >Documentation - Alpha One old farts comment re the docs here folks. This will need to be improved considerably if you want all us lurking frogs to be able to use it without drowning this list with what really should be RTFMable questions. Specifically, we should be able to dl one package and install something that, by reading the manpages, can be made to work OOTB given an adequate network connection. My lurking & reading the mail here tends to give me the impression that while it can be made to work, there are yet rough edges for the new user. Potentially discouraging rough edges... >My feeling is that we're pretty well set to do a 1.0 release. > >1 - Usability features are all the things around git-apply, >git-format-patch, etc, that we're clearly working on to make life > more pleasant, but aren't really critical. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
