Re: Aw: Re: Re: Re: [Bug report] 'git status' always says Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/master'

2014-01-14 Thread Keshav Kini
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to gmane.comp.version-control.git as well.

Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com writes:
 Thomas Ackermann th.ac...@arcor.de writes:
  But for the simple use case where you only have a master
  branch I consider it not really helpful and - at least for me -
  misleading.
 
 I see what you mean, and you're not the only one.
 
 Git follows a rule of never contact another machine unless explicitly
 asked to using a command such as 'git pull' or 'git fetch'.  To
 support this, it makes a distinction between (1) the remote-tracking
 ref origin/master and (2) the actual branch master in the remote
 repository.  The former is what is updated by 'git fetch', and the
 latter is something git does not know about without talking to the
 remote server.
 
 What documentation did you use when first starting to learn git?
 Perhaps it can be fixed to emphasize the distinction between (1) and
 (2) earlier.

 I think it's not the problem of the documentation but of myself
 not having it read thorough enough ;-)

 (This new feature in V1.8.5 of course is not documented in any of the books
 up to now but in the future could be used to explain the above mentioned
 rule.)

 By the way, this is nothing new in 1.8.5; we didn't bother saying
 up-to-date before, so you may not have noticed, but its silence was
 already telling you that your branch was up-to-date with respect to
 what you are building on top of.

Maybe it would be worthwhile to add a message like (last fetched from
upstream branch at [date]), taken from
$GIT_DIR/logs/refs/remotes/foo/bar ?  This would mitigate the confusion
Thomas suffered, I think.

Caveat: pretty ill-defined, since 1) if you've been pushing and not
fetching, the most recent time at which it is known that your
remote-tracking branch was up to date could be much newer than when it
was technically last fetched; 2) the upstream branch might not
even be a remote-tracking branch; 3) probably something else I haven't
thought of.

-Keshav
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Re: Re: Re: [Bug report] 'git status' always says Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/master'

2014-01-06 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi,

Thomas Ackermann wrote:

In repo_b your ref for origin/master
 has not moved. It has remotely (meaning refs/heads/master in repo_a
 has moved), but git status is not hitting the remote to find out; it
 only looks at the local state.
[...]
 But for the simple use case where you only have a master
 branch I consider it not really helpful and - at least for me -
 misleading.

I see what you mean, and you're not the only one.

Git follows a rule of never contact another machine unless explicitly
asked to using a command such as 'git pull' or 'git fetch'.  To
support this, it makes a distinction between (1) the remote-tracking
ref origin/master and (2) the actual branch master in the remote
repository.  The former is what is updated by 'git fetch', and the
latter is something git does not know about without talking to the
remote server.

What documentation did you use when first starting to learn git?
Perhaps it can be fixed to emphasize the distinction between (1) and
(2) earlier.

Thanks,
Jonathan
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Aw: Re: Re: Re: [Bug report] 'git status' always says Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/master'

2014-01-06 Thread Thomas Ackermann
 
  But for the simple use case where you only have a master
  branch I consider it not really helpful and - at least for me -
  misleading.
 
 I see what you mean, and you're not the only one.
 
 Git follows a rule of never contact another machine unless explicitly
 asked to using a command such as 'git pull' or 'git fetch'.  To
 support this, it makes a distinction between (1) the remote-tracking
 ref origin/master and (2) the actual branch master in the remote
 repository.  The former is what is updated by 'git fetch', and the
 latter is something git does not know about without talking to the
 remote server.
 
 What documentation did you use when first starting to learn git?
 Perhaps it can be fixed to emphasize the distinction between (1) and
 (2) earlier.

I think it's not the problem of the documentation but of myself
not having it read thorough enough ;-)

(This new feature in V1.8.5 of course is not documented in any of the books
up to now but in the future could be used to explain the above mentioned
rule.)

Thanks to you, Bryan and Jiang for your help!

---
Thomas
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