Re: How do I check the optimisation level of the built-in splitAt? Is something other than -O2 giving me my speed increase?

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 02:13:32PM +0100, Richard Kelsall wrote:
> Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
> >Hello Simon,
> >
> >>It's hard to tell what optimisation level your libraries were compiled
> >>with.  The default setting is -O, but when building binary distributions 
> >>we
> >>usually set it explicitly to -O2.  If you got your binary from another
> >>source, they might have only used -O.
> >
> >not surprising that noone answered this question in cafe :)
> >
> >actually, main Windows builds goes from Sigbjorn Finne afair. may be
> >from Neil too

The builds were always done on MSR machines, although Sigbjorn used to
bundle them up into installers. These days the MSR machines make the
installers too, with a script from Neil.

> For the record I'm using the Windows version of GHC 6.8.2 downloaded
> from here
> 
> http://haskell.org/ghc/download_ghc_682.html

I'm pretty sure that's got the libraries built with -O, although I
haven't looked for the log of that actual build.

We only use -O2 on the Linux builds as far as I can see, but I'm not
sure there's a good reason for that. I also don't know why we don't just
make our preferred settings the default in the build system; Simon?


Thanks
Ian

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Re: How do I check the optimisation level of the built-in splitAt? Is something other than -O2 giving me my speed increase?

2008-05-15 Thread Richard Kelsall

Bulat Ziganshin wrote:

Hello Simon,


It's hard to tell what optimisation level your libraries were compiled
with.  The default setting is -O, but when building binary distributions we
usually set it explicitly to -O2.  If you got your binary from another
source, they might have only used -O.


not surprising that noone answered this question in cafe :)

actually, main Windows builds goes from Sigbjorn Finne afair. may be
from Neil too. so we probably need to warn them that their builds may
be sub-optimal?



Thanks chaps,

For the record I'm using the Windows version of GHC 6.8.2 downloaded
from here

http://haskell.org/ghc/download_ghc_682.html

MD5 is

5356a12f056a32ef35fa44db2e2204fc

I just downloaded the one that's there currently and it's the same as
the one I'm using which I think I downloaded in January.


Richard.

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Re[2]: How do I check the optimisation level of the built-in splitAt? Is something other than -O2 giving me my speed increase?

2008-05-15 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Simon,

Thursday, May 15, 2008, 1:31:32 PM, you wrote:

> It's hard to tell what optimisation level your libraries were compiled
> with.  The default setting is -O, but when building binary distributions we
> usually set it explicitly to -O2.  If you got your binary from another
> source, they might have only used -O.

not surprising that noone answered this question in cafe :)

actually, main Windows builds goes from Sigbjorn Finne afair. may be
from Neil too. so we probably need to warn them that their builds may
be sub-optimal?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bulatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: How do I check the optimisation level of the built-in splitAt? Is something other than -O2 giving me my speed increase?

2008-05-15 Thread Simon Marlow

Richard Kelsall wrote:

Hello Glasgow-Haskell Users,

It was suggested to me in this thread in Haskell-Cafe

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-May/042797.html

which was a subsidiary of a previous thread

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-April/042155.html

that there might be some reason other than the -O2 optimisation level
I applied to my version of splitAt that was making my program run about
30% faster than when I used the built-in splitAt.

Can somebody tell me how to check what the -O level is for the built-in
splitAt? Or alternatively tell me what the optimisation level is for
the libraries.

(Sorry I'm not sure of the right terminology for these built-in /
library / Prelude things.)


It's hard to tell what optimisation level your libraries were compiled 
with.  The default setting is -O, but when building binary distributions we 
usually set it explicitly to -O2.  If you got your binary from another 
source, they might have only used -O.


Cheers,
Simon
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How do I check the optimisation level of the built-in splitAt? Is something other than -O2 giving me my speed increase?

2008-05-14 Thread Richard Kelsall

Hello Glasgow-Haskell Users,

It was suggested to me in this thread in Haskell-Cafe

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-May/042797.html

which was a subsidiary of a previous thread

http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2008-April/042155.html

that there might be some reason other than the -O2 optimisation level
I applied to my version of splitAt that was making my program run about
30% faster than when I used the built-in splitAt.

Can somebody tell me how to check what the -O level is for the built-in
splitAt? Or alternatively tell me what the optimisation level is for
the libraries.

(Sorry I'm not sure of the right terminology for these built-in /
library / Prelude things.)


Richard.


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