IRC meeting

2008-08-06 Thread Simon Marlow

IRC Meeting today at 1600 UK time as usual (1500 UTC, 0800 PDT, 1100 EDT).

A couple of suggestions for topics;

  - HEAD stability (re previous disccusion on cvs-ghc)
  - mechanics of the git switchover

Cheers,
Simon

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-30 Thread Simon Marlow
The IRC meeting will be held today at 16:00 UK time as usual (there wasn't 
any support for moving it to 21:00).  Simon PJ is back from holiday and 
should make it this time.


Any suggestions for discussion topics?  One idea we have is to talk about 
the GHC API.


Cheers,
Simon

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-30 Thread Max Bolingbroke
It would be nice if we could make some more progress on the revision
control issue from last week. I don't know if people are ready to
actually make a choice of RCS at this stage, but I've tried to make
all the information necessary to make a choice available at
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/DarcsEvaluation, along with
the URLs of the conversions of the GHC repo to all those formats.

Concretely, a decision needs to be made on:
1) Choice of RCS, so we can start researching how to do the Trac
integration / replace darcsweb, and start converting infrastructure
ready for the changeover
2) A timetable for conversion to the new RCS

All the best,
Max

2008/7/30 Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The IRC meeting will be held today at 16:00 UK time as usual (there wasn't
 any support for moving it to 21:00).  Simon PJ is back from holiday and
 should make it this time.

 Any suggestions for discussion topics?  One idea we have is to talk about
 the GHC API.

 Cheers,
Simon

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-30 Thread Johannes Waldmann
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 One idea we have is to talk about the GHC API.

I am generally interested in this,
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-22 Thread Simon Marlow

Thomas M. DuBuisson wrote:
Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, 
which would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life 
balance to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US.

I, for one, am happy with the current time; changing it should always be an 
option though.

For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch 
version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :)

Perhaps we could have an ever evolving wiki page with the
when/where/agenda/logs.  I've started a rough one [1]; I put it in the
general Haskell wiki because these topics certainly aren't confined to
GHC.

Thomas

[1] http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Weekly_Meeting


Hmm, well I did intend these meetings to be focussed mainly on issues 
relating to GHC, rather than a general Haskell discussion which could be 
held on #haskell separately.


By all means start a more general Haskell meeting too, but I want to keep 
this one for GHC.  The VCS debate is about what system GHC should use, not 
the community as a whole.  The HLP discussion is on topic because it is so 
closely related to how we release/package/ship GHC.


Cheers,
Simon
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-22 Thread Thomas M. DuBuisson
 By all means start a more general Haskell meeting too, but I want to keep 
 this one for GHC.  The VCS debate is about what system GHC should use, not 
 the community as a whole.  The HLP discussion is on topic because it is so 
 closely related to how we release/package/ship GHC.

Ah, I assumed this included Hackage.  How presumptuous of me.

Thomas

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-21 Thread Simon Marlow

Johan Tibell wrote:

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks to everyone who turned up and joined in, we had an interesting
discussion about the HLP.  On this basis I think we should try making it a
weekly event.


Thanks for arranging the meeting. I couldn't attend this time but I've
read the logs and given the constructive discussion I definitely think
it's worth making into a weekly event.


Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, 
which would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life 
balance to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US.


For this week let's stick to the same time as last week (4pm UK), but let 
me know if 9pm UK would be better/worse for you (that's 1300 PDT, 1600 EDT).


For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch 
version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :)


Cheers,
Simon
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-21 Thread Johan Tibell
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, which
 would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life balance
 to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US.

I would have a hard time attending at this time since it's after work
hours in Europe. One nice thing with having it during work hours is
that I can have my IRC open in one window while I work.

 For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch
 version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :)

Yes! Git please.

Cheers,

Johan darcs-ate-our-ICFP-submission Tibell
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-21 Thread Thomas M. DuBuisson
 Ian and I talked about possibly trying a different time - 9pm UK time, 
 which would be slightly less friendly to us in the UK (I have my work/life 
 balance to think about you know :-) but more friendly to people in the US.
I, for one, am happy with the current time; changing it should always be an 
option though.

 For this week's discussion, one topic on the table is whether to switch 
 version control systems, which I'm sure will make for a lively debate :)
Perhaps we could have an ever evolving wiki page with the
when/where/agenda/logs.  I've started a rough one [1]; I put it in the
general Haskell wiki because these topics certainly aren't confined to
GHC.

Thomas

[1] http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Weekly_Meeting

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-18 Thread david48
Ian Lynagh igloo at earth.li writes:

 The . is not part of the URL:
 http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel

I do feel dumb right now :)



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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-17 Thread Simon Marlow

Duncan Coutts wrote:

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:08 +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote:

Hi


  Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium
  for this kind of meeting.  A conference call could work too, though.

i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc

I second this. The mibbit.com IRC client is currently blocked by
freenode.net, so I am unable to participate, and would like to see a
log :-)


Log here: http://haskell.org/~duncan/ghc/%23ghc-2008-07-16.log

Hopefully we can put them in some standard place as we go on.


Thanks to everyone who turned up and joined in, we had an interesting 
discussion about the HLP.  On this basis I think we should try making it a 
weekly event.


Cheers,
Simon
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-17 Thread Johan Tibell
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to everyone who turned up and joined in, we had an interesting
 discussion about the HLP.  On this basis I think we should try making it a
 weekly event.

Thanks for arranging the meeting. I couldn't attend this time but I've
read the logs and given the constructive discussion I definitely think
it's worth making into a weekly event.

Cheers,

Johan
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-16 Thread david48
Simon Marlow marlowsd at gmail.com writes:

 #ghc on chat.freenode.net.  More instructions for getting on IRC are here: 
 http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel.

(There is currently no text in this page) 


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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-16 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:25:41AM +, david48 wrote:
 Simon Marlow marlowsd at gmail.com writes:
 
  #ghc on chat.freenode.net.  More instructions for getting on IRC are here: 
  http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel.
 
 (There is currently no text in this page) 

The . is not part of the URL:
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel


Thanks
Ian

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-16 Thread Neil Mitchell
Hi

   Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium
   for this kind of meeting.  A conference call could work too, though.

 i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc

I second this. The mibbit.com IRC client is currently blocked by
freenode.net, so I am unable to participate, and would like to see a
log :-)

Thanks

Neil
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-16 Thread Duncan Coutts

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:08 +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote:
 Hi
 
Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC 
  medium
for this kind of meeting.  A conference call could work too, though.
 
  i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc
 
 I second this. The mibbit.com IRC client is currently blocked by
 freenode.net, so I am unable to participate, and would like to see a
 log :-)

Log here: http://haskell.org/~duncan/ghc/%23ghc-2008-07-16.log

Hopefully we can put them in some standard place as we go on.

Duncan

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-15 Thread Simon Marlow
Ok, the first weekly IRC meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 16 July 
(tomorrow) at


  1600 BST (UTC+1)
  0800 PDT (UTC-7)
  1100 EDT (UTC-4)
  0100 Thursday in Sydney (sorry guys :-)

If it turns out to be useful, we'll make it a regular thing.  See you in 
#ghc on chat.freenode.net.  More instructions for getting on IRC are here: 
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/IRC_channel.


Cheers,
Simon

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-13 Thread Jason Dusek
Thomas M. DuBuisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don Stewart wrote:
  I think this is a good plan. 1600 UTC+1 is currently 8am Friday on the
  USA west coast fwiw.

 I'd listen in if this plan comes to fruition. The 1600 UTC+1 time
 would work fine.

  I would listen in, as well. 1500 UTC is a little early in
  SF, but it's before work and that's just as well.

-- 
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-12 Thread Thomas M. DuBuisson
Don Stewart wrote:
 marlowsd:
  Hi folks,
  
  I've been wondering whether it would be useful to have a weekly IRC 
  meeting to discuss GHC.  The idea would be that this is a scheduled time 
  when the developers turn up on #ghc, we'll discuss current topics around 
  GHC, and users can chime in with questions, points for discussion, 
  complaints :-) and so on.  I imagine making it completely informal to 
  begin with, and later adding some structure (an agenda etc.) if necessary.
  
  Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC 
  medium for this kind of meeting.  A conference call could work too, though.
  
  Thoughts?  I'm thinking a time around 1600 UK time (currently UTC+1) would 
  probably work best, does anyone have preferences for days?
 
 I think this is a good plan. 1600 UTC+1 is currently 8am Friday on the
 USA west coast fwiw.

I'd listen in if this plan comes to fruition.  The 1600 UTC+1 time
would work fine.

Tom

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Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-11 Thread Simon Marlow

Hi folks,

I've been wondering whether it would be useful to have a weekly IRC meeting 
to discuss GHC.  The idea would be that this is a scheduled time when the 
developers turn up on #ghc, we'll discuss current topics around GHC, and 
users can chime in with questions, points for discussion, complaints :-) 
and so on.  I imagine making it completely informal to begin with, and 
later adding some structure (an agenda etc.) if necessary.


Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium 
for this kind of meeting.  A conference call could work too, though.


Thoughts?  I'm thinking a time around 1600 UK time (currently UTC+1) would 
probably work best, does anyone have preferences for days?


Cheers,
Simon
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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-11 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Simon,

Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:08:52 PM, you wrote:

 Another option is a conference call, but personally I prefer the IRC medium
 for this kind of meeting.  A conference call could work too, though.

i propose to sent every meeting log into cvs-ghc

-- 
Best regards,
 Bulatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Weekly IRC meeting?

2008-07-11 Thread Johan Tibell
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I've been wondering whether it would be useful to have a weekly IRC meeting
 to discuss GHC.  The idea would be that this is a scheduled time when the
 developers turn up on #ghc, we'll discuss current topics around GHC, and
 users can chime in with questions, points for discussion, complaints :-) and
 so on.  I imagine making it completely informal to begin with, and later
 adding some structure (an agenda etc.) if necessary.

I would definitely be interested. 16:00 UK time would work for me.
Personally I'd have an easier time attending during work hours.
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