Re[2]: 64-bit windows version?

2007-06-25 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Peter,

Monday, June 25, 2007, 9:35:31 PM, you wrote:

 Maybe some gcc mimicing cl wrapper tailored specifically for GHC
 building system could help? One more layer of indirection, but  
 could leave ghc driver relatively intact.

 That's a good idea!

there is possibility that such driver was already implemented somewhere

i remember old good says when symantec c++ contained such drivers for
emulation of CL and BCC :)

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Re[2]: 64-bit windows version?

2007-06-20 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Simon,

Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 11:51:34 AM, you wrote:
 really! Simon, how about unregisterised build?

 Unregisterised would still need a C compiler capable of generating 64-bit 
 code.
   Are you talking about using the MS compiler for that?  Certainly possible, 
 but
 I'm not sure why you'd want to do it - you'd end up with much slower code than
 running the 32-bit compiler.

in *my* program all code that is need to be efficient is written in C++ :)
generally speaking, people want to use 64-bit code in order to work
with much larger data space, overall speed may be better than using
32-bit version with 2gb limit

so, if it is a not big problem - afaiu unregisterized build should be
easy? - can you please build such version?

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Re[2]: 64-bit windows version?

2007-06-19 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello skaller,

Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 8:15:19 PM, you wrote:
  are you plan to implement 64-bit windows GHC version?

 Why do you need mingw? What's wrong with MSVC++?

really! Simon, how about unregisterised build?

skaller, is *free* 64-bit msvc (or any other windows c++ compiler) available?


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Re: Re[2]: 64-bit windows version?

2007-06-19 Thread skaller
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 07:34 +0400, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
 Hello skaller,
 
 Tuesday, June 19, 2007, 8:15:19 PM, you wrote:
   are you plan to implement 64-bit windows GHC version?
 
  Why do you need mingw? What's wrong with MSVC++?
 
 really! Simon, how about unregisterised build?
 
 skaller, is *free* 64-bit msvc (or any other windows c++ compiler) available?

Visual Studio Express is a Visual Studio 2005 IDE system for XP 
with some features disabled, the disabled features include 
interactive debugging, help, online news/blog stuff, etc: 
advanced IDE features.

AFAIK the compilers are intact and can be used on the command line
as well as from the IDE. I think you do need to download 
the platform SDK separately though. AFAIK on x86_64 platform,
VS is a 32 bit program, as are the compilers, but they can
generate 64 bit code (the 32 and 64 bit compilers are separate
executables and run in distinct environments .. )

One thing to watch though: embedded assembler is gone in new
MSVC++ compilers (due to multi-arch support I guess).
However assembler works in 64 bit, Ocaml 64 bit for Windows uses it.

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