[gmx-users] g_h2order problem

2006-05-23 Thread Rongliang Wu
Hello, gmx-users,


my system has just 2827 water molecules, but the g_h2order command told 
me
that there are more than 2807 waters in each slice. there are only one group in
my index file and in O H H sequence. why? 


the results are as follows:

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Option Filename  Type Description

  -f   10ns.xtc  InputGeneric trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb
  -n  order_h2o.ndx  InputIndex file
 -nm  index.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
  -sbso20md.tpr  InputGeneric run input: tpr tpb tpa xml
  -o  order.xvg  Output   xvgr/xmgr file

  Option   Type  Value  Description
--
  -[no]h   bool no  Print help info and quit
  -[no]X   bool no  Use dialog box GUI to edit command line options
   -niceint 19  Set the nicelevel
  -b   time   2600  First frame (ps) to read from trajectory
  -e   time  0  Last frame (ps) to read from trajectory
 -dt   time  0  Only use frame when t MOD dt = first time (ps)
  -[no]w   bool no  View output xvg, xpm, eps and pdb files
   -[no]xvgr   boolyes  Add specific codes (legends etc.) in the output
xvg files for the xmgrace program
  -d string  Z  Take the normal on the membrane in direction X, Y
or Z.
 -slint100  Calculate order parameter as function of
boxlength, dividing the box in #nr slices.

Reading file bso20md.tpr, VERSION 3.3 (single precision)
Group 0 (  OW_HW1_HW2) has  8481 elements
There is one group in the index
Reading frame   0 time 2600.000   Box divided in 100 slices. Initial width
o
f slice: 0.103958
Reading frame1550 time 9980.000

Read trajectory. Printing parameters to file
91697 waters in slice 0
91534 waters in slice 1
91403 waters in slice 2
91630 waters in slice 3
90943 waters in slice 4
91577 waters in slice 5
91589 waters in slice 6
91367 waters in slice 7
91485 waters in slice 8
91641 waters in slice 9
91528 waters in slice 10
91599 waters in slice 11
91867 waters in slice 12
92253 waters in slice 13
92324 waters in slice 14
92318 waters in slice 15
91075 waters in slice 16
87944 waters in slice 17
82109 waters in slice 18
75151 waters in slice 19
67429 waters in slice 20
57285 waters in slice 21
42809 waters in slice 22
26212 waters in slice 23
12391 waters in slice 24
4453 waters in slice 25
1129 waters in slice 26
204 waters in slice 27
29 waters in slice 28
3 waters in slice 29
0 waters in slice 30
No water in slice 30
0 waters in slice 31
No water in slice 31
0 waters in slice 32
No water in slice 32
0 waters in slice 33
No water in slice 33
0 waters in slice 34
No water in slice 34
0 waters in slice 35
No water in slice 35
0 waters in slice 36
No water in slice 36
0 waters in slice 37
No water in slice 37
0 waters in slice 38
No water in slice 38
0 waters in slice 39
No water in slice 39
0 waters in slice 40
No water in slice 40
0 waters in slice 41
No water in slice 41
0 waters in slice 42
No water in slice 42
0 waters in slice 43
No water in slice 43
0 waters in slice 44
No water in slice 44
0 waters in slice 45
No water in slice 45
0 waters in slice 46
No water in slice 46
0 waters in slice 47
No water in slice 47
0 waters in slice 48
No water in slice 48
0 waters in slice 49
No water in slice 49
0 waters in slice 50
No water in slice 50
0 waters in slice 51
No water in slice 51
0 waters in slice 52
No water in slice 52
0 waters in slice 53
No water in slice 53
0 waters in slice 54
No water in slice 54
0 waters in slice 55
No water in slice 55
0 waters in slice 56
No water in slice 56
0 waters in slice 57
No water in slice 57
0 waters in slice 58
No water in slice 58
0 waters in slice 59
No water in slice 59
0 waters in slice 60
No water in slice 60
0 waters in slice 61
No water in slice 61
0 waters in slice 62
No water in slice 62
1 waters in slice 63
0 waters in slice 64
No water in slice 64
1 waters in slice 65
1 waters in slice 66
17 waters in slice 67
146 waters in slice 68
927 waters in slice 69

Re: [gmx-users] forcefield

2006-05-23 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Dear Hadi,

You also forgot to define "better". What do you want to learn from that
peptide? Do you need all hydrogens for that? Or could you do without?
Also consider that the generality of the question phrased does usually
not trigger people in a way desired for reply. It sounds a bit like
"I've got some homework, but would like you to do it for me". Study the
manual and papers on MD, in particular of small peptides and force
fields. Now there's a bit of homework ;)

Cheers,

TsjerkOn 5/23/06, Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hadi behzadi wrote:> Hi all of users>> For HHAHHAADAAHHAAD peptide what kinde of force field is better ?I don't know, but I could tell you the answer immediately forHHAHAHADAAHHAAD peptide :-P
General force fields are parameterized to be reasonable over a range ofsystems. The overview of force fields in the GROMACS manual is good, andyou should refer to the papers that describe them for more detail.
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[gmx-users] ffAMBER ports updated

2006-05-23 Thread Eric J. Sorin

Hi,

We have updated the ffAMBER website to include AMBER ports for v3.3.1 and also incorporated the 
AMBER-03 force field of Duan et al. in all ffAMBER ports (v3.1.4 thru v3.3.1).


Please visit http://folding.stanford.edu/ffamber/ for more info.  Enjoy!

Eric J. Sorin
Pande Group
Stanford University
Department of Chemistry

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Re: [gmx-users] forcefield

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Abraham

hadi behzadi wrote:

Hi all of users
 
For HHAHHAADAAHHAAD peptide what kinde of force field is better ?


I don't know, but I could tell you the answer immediately for 
HHAHAHADAAHHAAD peptide :-P


General force fields are parameterized to be reasonable over a range of 
systems. The overview of force fields in the GROMACS manual is good, and 
you should refer to the papers that describe them for more detail.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Beware of your interconnect hardware

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Abraham

Jason O'Young wrote:

Hey All,

Not too long ago I posted about my problems with processes freezing  
(just to refresh, I am running two dual-core nodes for a total of  four 
processes).


I managed to remedy the problem by removing the Dell PowerConnect  2708 
Gigabit switch and replacing it with a simple crossover cable.  Ever 
since then, the system has been running rock solid.


Are there actually issues with switch hardware with Gromacs? I used  to 
think that these things were pretty much fool proof. I spent about  a 
month trying to fix what I perceived as a Linux issue.


Please be careful to differentiate a switch hardware problem from a 
Linux OS problem from an MPI problem from a GROMACS problem. The 
observation of processes freezing could be caused by a failure of any of 
those systems, and it is unfair to blame GROMACS for problems at a 
hardware level...


Your question above is a bit like someone on a motoring mailing list 
asking whether Mercedes-Benz cars have a problem with tires because you 
keep skidding off the road in your Merc. The problem could be with your 
technique as the driver, the road conditions, the speed you're driving 
at, the tires, or various bits of the car.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Abraham

David van der Spoel wrote:

Gale, Ella wrote:



Thanks for the advice, but my force-field has no charges and hence no 
coulomb potential, so I want the atoms to interact with itself via the 
Van der Waals functions. I'm using 3.2.1 at the moment and there is no 
option to use any of the Ewald summation techniques. Is this something 
that has been added in the most recent version?


Ewald variant are only for Coulomb so far. You can use a normal cutoff 
or a shifted cutoff.


One or two of the early PME papers describe implementation details for 
LJ PME, but I am not immediately aware of a modern MD code that 
implements it. If you want it, shop around.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

2006-05-23 Thread David van der Spoel

Gale, Ella wrote:


Thanks for the advice, but my force-field has no charges and hence no 
coulomb potential, so I want the atoms to interact with itself via the 
Van der Waals functions. I'm using 3.2.1 at the moment and there is no 
option to use any of the Ewald summation techniques. Is this something 
that has been added in the most recent version?
Ewald variant are only for Coulomb so far. You can use a normal cutoff 
or a shifted cutoff.





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Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

Gale, Ella wrote:
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > I was wondering is it possible to simulate a crystall by just simulating
 > a unit cell in GROMACS? I want the molecule to be able to interact with
 > the images of itself, but I don't seem to be able to set rlist, rvdw or
 > rcoulomb any larger than half the unit cell size, which explicitly
 > prevents my molecule from interacting with itself.

Use Ewald, or preferably particle-mesh Ewald (PME) for crystalline
systems. That was what they were invented for.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Beware of your interconnect hardware

2006-05-23 Thread David van der Spoel

Jason O'Young wrote:

Hey All,

Not too long ago I posted about my problems with processes freezing  
(just to refresh, I am running two dual-core nodes for a total of  four 
processes).


I managed to remedy the problem by removing the Dell PowerConnect  2708 
Gigabit switch and replacing it with a simple crossover cable.  Ever 
since then, the system has been running rock solid.


Are there actually issues with switch hardware with Gromacs? I used  to 
think that these things were pretty much fool proof. I spent about  a 
month trying to fix what I perceived as a Linux issue.


That poses a question I have to all of you. Is there a particular  brand 
or model of switch you recommend? Eventually I would like to  add 
another node to the system!




If you read the Rocks mailing lists (Cluster Linux Distro) you will be 
surprised. Dell switches are considered to be crap. Get HP instead (if 
your contract allows it...). Go to www.rocksclusters.org for more info.




Thanks,
Jason

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Re: [gmx-users] Ions close to protein

2006-05-23 Thread David van der Spoel

David Mobley wrote:

Joanne,

>When I add ions to my system to neutralise it some are placed quite 
close to the protein (even when using random) and in other cases 
during simualtions I have seen ions move into the protein, is this 
normal/okay and are there any ways of keeping these ions away from the 
protein?



In terms of keeping them away from the protein, not too sure. But I
think it is right to be nervous about ions that move into your
protein. These could have long correlation times.  Depending on how
long the correlation times are, you might need to run longer to get
adequate sampling. On the other hand, if your salt concentration is
reasonable, you might have enough ions that this behavior will
appropriately average out, especially if correlation times are
relatively short.

Probably, the overall answer to whether this is okay depends on what
question you are trying to ask. My personal opinion is that ions are a
whole can of worms that is mostly unopened so far, but sooner or later
someone will have to open it and it will be messy (long correlation
times, bad parameters, and strongly influence certain things). But
perhaps I'm just being pessimistic. And, in fairness, I should say
that so far I've decided just to ignore the issue, because I don't
want to be the guy who opens the can of worms.


OK, better show a glimpse of what's in the can then...

We are finishing a paper about this stuff, and the conclusion is: no 
problem as long as your simulations are reasonably long and you use PME. 
Charged sidechains have *on average* half a counterion in our tests. A 
real problem may be that force fields are not adapted to having 
realistic ionic strength, and hence you might influence protein 
stability by introducing. This is very hard to prove however.




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Re: [gmx-users] Ions close to protein

2006-05-23 Thread David Mobley

Joanne,


>When I add ions to my system to neutralise it some are placed quite close to 
the protein (even when using random) and in other cases during simualtions I have 
seen ions move into the protein, is this normal/okay and are there any ways of 
keeping these ions away from the protein?


In terms of keeping them away from the protein, not too sure. But I
think it is right to be nervous about ions that move into your
protein. These could have long correlation times.  Depending on how
long the correlation times are, you might need to run longer to get
adequate sampling. On the other hand, if your salt concentration is
reasonable, you might have enough ions that this behavior will
appropriately average out, especially if correlation times are
relatively short.

Probably, the overall answer to whether this is okay depends on what
question you are trying to ask. My personal opinion is that ions are a
whole can of worms that is mostly unopened so far, but sooner or later
someone will have to open it and it will be messy (long correlation
times, bad parameters, and strongly influence certain things). But
perhaps I'm just being pessimistic. And, in fairness, I should say
that so far I've decided just to ignore the issue, because I don't
want to be the guy who opens the can of worms.

David


>
>
This is normal in the sense that it certainly happens in the real systems.
The fact is that you probably don't want the ions to go mess up with your
protein !!
One solution:
1)order your solent in function of the distance to the protein, trjorder
does this.
2)generate an index where you separate your solvent into the close and far
from the protein.
3) then use genion giving this index and choose the index far from protein.

Note that this won't ovoid the contact ion-protein during your simulation !!

XAvier

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[gmx-users] Beware of your interconnect hardware

2006-05-23 Thread Jason O'Young

Hey All,

Not too long ago I posted about my problems with processes freezing  
(just to refresh, I am running two dual-core nodes for a total of  
four processes).


I managed to remedy the problem by removing the Dell PowerConnect  
2708 Gigabit switch and replacing it with a simple crossover cable.  
Ever since then, the system has been running rock solid.


Are there actually issues with switch hardware with Gromacs? I used  
to think that these things were pretty much fool proof. I spent about  
a month trying to fix what I perceived as a Linux issue.


That poses a question I have to all of you. Is there a particular  
brand or model of switch you recommend? Eventually I would like to  
add another node to the system!


Thanks,
Jason

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RE: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

2006-05-23 Thread Gale, Ella
Title: RE: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls







Thanks for the advice, but my force-field has no charges and hence no coulomb potential, so I want the atoms to interact with itself via the Van der Waals functions. I'm using 3.2.1 at the moment and there is no option to use any of the Ewald summation techniques. Is this something that has been added in the most recent version?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Abraham
Sent: Tue 5/23/2006 2:19 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

Gale, Ella wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering is it possible to simulate a crystall by just simulating
> a unit cell in GROMACS? I want the molecule to be able to interact with
> the images of itself, but I don't seem to be able to set rlist, rvdw or
> rcoulomb any larger than half the unit cell size, which explicitly
> prevents my molecule from interacting with itself.

Use Ewald, or preferably particle-mesh Ewald (PME) for crystalline
systems. That was what they were invented for.

Mark
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[gmx-users] forcefield

2006-05-23 Thread hadi behzadi
Hi all of users     For HHAHHAADAAHHAAD peptide what kinde of force field is better ?      
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[gmx-users] POPC simulation

2006-05-23 Thread Arindam Ganguly
Hi Steffen,Thanks very much for the prompt reply. i made the changes as mentioned such that my popc.top looks like this :-#include "ffgmx.itp"#include "lipid.itp"#include "popc.itp"
#include "ffgmx2nb.itp"#include "ffgmx2bon.itp"however is still get the same message "Fatal error: Bonded/nonbonded atom type 'LP2' not found!".  i forgot to mention one thing in my earlier mail that the 
ffgmx.atp file provided with originally from GROMACS , i replaced the contents of it by the contents present in the ffgmx.atp file present in the ffgmx_lipids folder as downloaded from the Gromacs website.  my understanding is this shouldn;t cause the problem since the orinigal 
ffgmx.atp file ( as provided by gromacs) doesn;t contain all the atom types. in fact when i compared the both files i found that the ffgmx.atp file (from ffgmx_lipids folder ) has the following extra entries which were required for the lipid simulation. i am kind of confused as to where i am committig the mistake. plz help. thanks.
Arindam GangulyHi Arindam,you've simply got to switch two lines in the *.top file: lipid.itp hasto be called by the topology before popc.itp, as it contains theinformation on atomtypes for GROMACS. So:
#include "lipid.itp"#include "popc.itp"should work just fine.GreetingsSteffen
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Re: [gmx-users] Ions close to protein

2006-05-23 Thread Xavier Periole

Joanne Hanna wrote:


Hi

When I add ions to my system to neutralise it some are placed quite close to 
the protein (even when using random) and in other cases during simualtions I 
have seen ions move into the protein, is this normal/okay and are there any 
ways of keeping these ions away from the protein?
 


This is normal in the sense that it certainly happens in the real systems.
The fact is that you probably don't want the ions to go mess up with your
protein !!
One solution:
1)order your solent in function of the distance to the protein, trjorder 
does this.

2)generate an index where you separate your solvent into the close and far
from the protein.
3) then use genion giving this index and choose the index far from protein.

Note that this won't ovoid the contact ion-protein during your simulation !!

XAvier

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Re: [gmx-users] Ions close to protein

2006-05-23 Thread David van der Spoel

Joanne Hanna wrote:

Hi

When I add ions to my system to neutralise it some are placed quite close to 
the protein (even when using random) and in other cases during simualtions I 
have seen ions move into the protein, is this normal/okay and are there any 
ways of keeping these ions away from the protein?


this is normal.



Thanks
Jo

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[gmx-users] Ions close to protein

2006-05-23 Thread Joanne Hanna
Hi

When I add ions to my system to neutralise it some are placed quite close to 
the protein (even when using random) and in other cases during simualtions I 
have seen ions move into the protein, is this normal/okay and are there any 
ways of keeping these ions away from the protein?

Thanks
Jo

Joanne Hanna
Department of Chemistry
University of Warwick
Coventry
CV4 7AL

(02476) 574623
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Re: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Abraham

Gale, Ella wrote:


Hi,

I was wondering is it possible to simulate a crystall by just simulating 
a unit cell in GROMACS? I want the molecule to be able to interact with 
the images of itself, but I don't seem to be able to set rlist, rvdw or 
rcoulomb any larger than half the unit cell size, which explicitly 
prevents my molecule from interacting with itself.


Use Ewald, or preferably particle-mesh Ewald (PME) for crystalline 
systems. That was what they were invented for.


Mark
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[gmx-users] Suggestions awaited

2006-05-23 Thread richa taimni
Dear all,

I wanted to calculate the angle joining the normal to
the tyrosine ring and the vector joining the
succeeding residue.
I tried using the g_sgangle option in gromacs to
calculate the angle between these 2 groups, and the
distance between the 2 grps but as soon as I selected 
the first grp frm the index file all the calculations
were performed according to the first slection. The
option to select the second grp frm the index file was
not asked.

Please help,

Richa

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Re: [gmx-users] FF choice.

2006-05-23 Thread gianluca santarossa

David van der Spoel wrote:

are you sure you want this force field by the way?


I apologize if it is a FAQ.
I'd like to make some MD simulations of a small molecule (cinchonidine), 
changing solvents and other stuff.

Obviously, I've to compute a new topology for the molecule...
Then, how can I choose the best  FF, considering that gromacs FF is 
deprecated in gromacs 3.3?


I computed the topology using prodrg, then I chose the gromacs FF 
because I used it some time ago for proteins.
Are there other tools to compute a topology from, for example, a 
Z-matrix file?


Thanks,
Gianluca

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[gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

2006-05-23 Thread Gale, Ella
Title: Simulating crystalls







Hi,

I was wondering is it possible to simulate a crystall by just simulating a unit cell in GROMACS? I want the molecule to be able to interact with the images of itself, but I don't seem to be able to set rlist, rvdw or rcoulomb any larger than half the unit cell size, which explicitly prevents my molecule from interacting with itself.

Any ideas?

Regards

Ella Gale



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Re: [gmx-users] PBC and large hydrogen-bonded molecules

2006-05-23 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,On 5/23/06, Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> Hello fellow Gromacs-users,>> Today I was extracting PDB snapshots from a solvated DNA 12mer simulation trajectory.> When I went to view the snapshots, I saw that one of the DNA strands suddenly jumped
> some nanometers away from its partner during certain frames. I remembered that there was> a note about fixing this artifact in the trjconv documentation, and soon found that the> -whole or -nojump options produced an easier-to-view snapshot series.
Well done.
Hear, hear! :)
 The simplest hypothesis for these images is that the visualisationprogram is placing the first atom it finds in each molecule inside the
box and the rest of it consistent with that placement. More visuallyappealing might be an algorithm that located the center-of-massinside... shrug. Playing with the trjconv options before thevisualisation program gets into the mix may help here.
Mark
In fact, it is Gromacs which uses the first atom to decide in which box
the molecule should be located during MD. But ALWAYS think of the
simulation system as an infinite tiling of simulation unit cells. It
doesn't matter a bit how you choose your single simulation cell from
that infinite system.., except for visualization.

Cheers,

Tsjerk
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Re: [gmx-users] tbpconv

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Abraham

Magnus Andersson wrote:

Hi,

I used tbpconv to restart a crashed run. This will result in 2 separate
.xtc and .trr files. How can I use for instance g_rdf on these files. Is
there some way to fuse them?


trjcat - there's a nice section in the GROMACS manual that lists the 
function of all the utilities in a one-liner... have a read.


Mark
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[gmx-users] tbpconv

2006-05-23 Thread Magnus Andersson
Hi,

I used tbpconv to restart a crashed run. This will result in 2 separate
.xtc and .trr files. How can I use for instance g_rdf on these files. Is
there some way to fuse them?

/Magnus Andersson

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Re: [gmx-users] POPC simulation

2006-05-23 Thread Steffen Wolf

Hi Arindam,
you've simply got to switch two lines in the *.top file: lipid.itp has 
to be called by the topology before popc.itp, as it contains the 
information on atomtypes for GROMACS. So:


#include "lipid.itp"
#include "popc.itp"

should work just fine.
Greetings
Steffen

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