Re: [gmx-users] Viscosity in PE

2006-09-07 Thread Berk Hess





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Esther Caballero-Manrique wrote:
You can calculate it from the velocity autocorrelation function, which can 
be calculated using the g_velacc. The friction can be calculated from the 
integral of the velocity autocorrelation function (friction=3KbT/(integral 
of vacf)) and then the viscosity can be calculated using Stoke's equation 
(friction=6 x PI x visc x radius). But you need to have saved the 
velocities fairly often (say every 5 fs?). This came up recently in the 
mailing lists, you can search the velocity autocorrelation function. This 
method integrates the integral at time infinite (ie, see Morriss and 
Evan's book /Statistical Mechanics of Nonequilibrium Liquids, /now on the 
web @ http://rsc.anu.edu.au/~evans/evansmorrissbook.htm) which might or 
might not be a good approximation for your system. Otherwise you can do 
more sophisticated methods such as those outlined in chapter 6 of the 
manual.

Hope it helps,
Esther


An alternative method that is implemented requires non-equibrium 
simulations. Check out


@Article{Hess2002b,
  author =   {B. Hess},
  title = 	 {Determining the shear viscosity of model liquids from 
molecular simulation},

  journal =  {J. Chem. Phys.},
  year = 2002,
  volume =   116,
  pages ={209-217}
}

you have to set cos_acceleration in the mdp to e.g. 0.1 nm/ps^2


In Gromacs viscosity calculations can be done with several methods,
all of which are described in the paper mentioned above.

But for PE-1000 it is not that straightforward as for a simple liquid.
The system has very long relaxation times and the viscosity will be
very non-linear in the shear rate.
You should read some literature on viscosity calculations in polymer melts.

Berk.


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[gmx-users] Re: Simulation problem with extended membrane system!

2006-09-07 Thread chris . neale
Having actually looked back at my notes, here is what I did to extend pope.pdb 
into a larger system. However, the suggestion that I posted last time should 
work just as well.

1. Remove all waters
2. Duplicate the box until your heart's content. Make it larger than you 
actually want because the box will collapse to some extent.
3. MD with Z-only posre on lipid head groups (X and Y force components = zero). 
This step must be done with constant pressure (In this procedure, make sure to 
use isotropic pressure coupling so that the box max and min z don't come into 
contact with the membrane).

NOTE for step 3: It is assumed that your edges line up with each other. Load 
the 
system into vmd and show periodic unit cells to make sure. If they line up 
poorly then I would find a new starting PDB. However, pope.pdb lines up well.

4. Adjust the z-dimension to what you want it to be, center your membrane in 
the 
z if you want to.
5. solvate the system.
6. Remove any waters that were placed within the membrane
7. energy minimize
8. posre run as before to allow the water to adjust to the membrane surfaces. 
However, during this run (and all the rest of the steps) I use semiisotropic 
Pcoupling.
9. equilibration phase without any position restraints
10. production run.

If you are going to add protein, you could do that with the results of step 4 
since most procedures involve stripping out any waters anyway.

Again, the procedure that I outlined previously should work, but I have not 
tested that procedure, only this one.
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Re: [gmx-users] Buckingham model for liquid of water

2006-09-07 Thread Paul van Maaren
On Thursday 07 September 2006 23:18, Eudes Fileti wrote:
> Dear gmx-ers
> I have attemped to use the potential of Buckingham
> to simulate the water liquid. However I did not find
> papers that present the parameters of the potential.
> Actually I found a paper that mixed parameters LJ (O...O)
> and Buckingham (O-H, O-O and H...O).
> Can anyone let me know if there is a optmized set parameters
> for the water with this potential ?

The following article contains such a model:

@Article{Errington1998a,
  author =   {J. R. Errington and A. Z. Panagiotopoulos},
  title ={A Fixed Point Charge Model for Water Optimized to the 
  Vapor-Liquid Coexistence Properties},
  journal =  BTjpcb,
  year = 1998,
  volume =   102,
  pages ={7470-7475},
  OPTabstract =  {},
  OPTnote =  {},
  doi =  {http://dx.doi.org/}
}

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Groeten,

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[gmx-users] Buckingham model for liquid of water

2006-09-07 Thread Eudes Fileti
Dear gmx-ersI have attemped to use the potential of Buckingham to simulate the
water liquid. However I did not find papers that present the
parameters of the potential. Actually I found a paper that mixed parameters LJ (O...O) and Buckingham (O-H, O-O and H...O).
Can anyone let me know if there is a optmized set parameters for
the water with this potential ?Thankseef-- __  Eudes Eterno Fileti  Centro de Ciência Naturais e Humanas
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[gmx-users] how to exclude some atoms from coulomb interaction calculation?

2006-09-07 Thread Cherry Y. Yates
Dear all,I did a massive MD simulation of nanostructure. In my calculation, over 80% atoms have zero charge and the main CPU time is devoted to Coulomb interaction. I wonder if anyone knows how to exclude these neutral atoms from Coublomb interaction so that a lot of CPU time will be saved.Many thanks,Cherry __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___
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Re: [gmx-users] Viscosity in PE

2006-09-07 Thread David van der Spoel

Esther Caballero-Manrique wrote:
You can calculate it from the velocity autocorrelation function, which 
can be calculated using the g_velacc. The friction can be calculated 
from the integral of the velocity autocorrelation function 
(friction=3KbT/(integral of vacf)) and then the viscosity can be 
calculated using Stoke's equation (friction=6 x PI x visc x radius). But 
you need to have saved the velocities fairly often (say every 5 fs?). 
This came up recently in the mailing lists, you can search the velocity 
autocorrelation function. This method integrates the integral at time 
infinite (ie, see Morriss and Evan's book /Statistical Mechanics of 
Nonequilibrium Liquids, /now on the web @ 
http://rsc.anu.edu.au/~evans/evansmorrissbook.htm) which might or might 
not be a good approximation for your system. Otherwise you can do more 
sophisticated methods such as those outlined in chapter 6 of the manual.

Hope it helps,
Esther


An alternative method that is implemented requires non-equibrium 
simulations. Check out


@Article{Hess2002b,
  author =   {B. Hess},
  title = 	 {Determining the shear viscosity of model liquids from 
molecular simulation},

  journal =  {J. Chem. Phys.},
  year = 2002,
  volume =   116,
  pages ={209-217}
}

you have to set cos_acceleration in the mdp to e.g. 0.1 nm/ps^2



Esther Caballero-Manrique
Guenza Group
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR
usa
541-346-2485
Alessandro Mattozzi wrote:




Dear Gromacs-users
I have already run some MD, both in NVT and NPT, of Polyethylene (1000 
atoms-backbone).
I would like to estimate the viscosity of my systems. Is it possible 
even if it is a rubbery solid? Which method is the most suitable?

Regards

Alessandro Mattozzi



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[gmx-users] Re: Simulation problem with extended membrane system!

2006-09-07 Thread liu xin

Hello Chris

So you mean to do a constrained MDS to let the lipids "fill the gaps"
between the box edges and lipids, after that do a unconstrained MDS,
then we'll get a fine structure, am I right?

Thank you very much, I'll try that

Xin Liu

On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you can't write a script, then do the minimization and equilibration with
water frozen in the z dimension (freeze_groups = water; freeze_dim = n n y)
or
use constraints in the z dimension (posre.itp force constant 1000 along z
and 0
along x and y). This will stop it from going into the membrane. Before you
start, sort the initial PDB according to z (you could do this in excel),
remove
any waters that you don't want, resort according to original order, and run
pdb2gmx. Note that pope.pdb does have a small cluster of waters in the
membrane.
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Re: [gmx-users] Continue run

2006-09-07 Thread Milan Melichercik
Dňa Št 7. September 2006 15:27 Navratna Vajpai napísal:
> Dear All..
> to continue the run, as i understood, I modified the md.mdp and then
> use the .tpr and .trr for the further run. Can anyone suggest that it
> is the right way or not? actually in one of the tutorials note i have
> just found to change the options as -time $value -until $value.
> I was wondering whether my way is also OK or not.

Nearly right, but you don't need to modify the .mdb file. If your simulation 
crashed, simply execute 'tpbconv -s your_file.tpr -f your_file.trr -o 
your_new_file.tpr' (or you can add -e your_file.edr for energy) - this will 
generate new .tpr, which you use by running mdrun - that will generate 
something like your_new_file.trr and you can join then by 'trjcat -f 
your_file.trr your_new_file.trr -o your_full_file.trr, which will contain the 
whole simulation.
The -time $value generates .tpr, which will start simulation from $value time 
(normally it starts from the last possible positions, so this is in the most 
cases not necessary). -until and -extend parameters you can use for 
continuing finished simulation until the given time/for the given time.
The parameters of the simulation is allways the same.
I hope it will help.

Milan
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[gmx-users] Continue run

2006-09-07 Thread Navratna Vajpai
Dear All..to continue the run, as i understood, I modified the md.mdp and then use the .tpr and .trr for the further run. Can anyone suggest that it is the right way or not? actually in one of the tutorials note i have just found to change the options as -time $value -until $value. I was wondering whether my way is also OK or not.ThanksNav ***Navratna VajpaiPh. D student in Prof. Grzesiek's laboratoryDepartment of Structural BiologyBiozentrum, University of BaselKlingelbergstrasse 70,CH-4056Basel, Switzerland.Phone- +41 61 267 2080(O)	       +41 78 744 0810(M)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
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Re: [gmx-users] Viscosity in PE

2006-09-07 Thread Esther Caballero-Manrique
You can calculate it from the velocity autocorrelation function, which 
can be calculated using the g_velacc. The friction can be calculated 
from the integral of the velocity autocorrelation function 
(friction=3KbT/(integral of vacf)) and then the viscosity can be 
calculated using Stoke's equation (friction=6 x PI x visc x radius). But 
you need to have saved the velocities fairly often (say every 5 fs?). 
This came up recently in the mailing lists, you can search the velocity 
autocorrelation function. This method integrates the integral at time 
infinite (ie, see Morriss and Evan's book /Statistical Mechanics of 
Nonequilibrium Liquids, /now on the web @ 
http://rsc.anu.edu.au/~evans/evansmorrissbook.htm) which might or might 
not be a good approximation for your system. Otherwise you can do more 
sophisticated methods such as those outlined in chapter 6 of the manual.

Hope it helps,
Esther

Esther Caballero-Manrique
Guenza Group
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR
usa
541-346-2485
Alessandro Mattozzi wrote:




Dear Gromacs-users
I have already run some MD, both in NVT and NPT, of Polyethylene (1000 
atoms-backbone).
I would like to estimate the viscosity of my systems. Is it possible 
even if it is a rubbery solid? Which method is the most suitable?

Regards

Alessandro Mattozzi



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RE: [gmx-users] Simulation problem with extended membrane system!

2006-09-07 Thread chris . neale
If you can't write a script, then do the minimization and equilibration with
water frozen in the z dimension (freeze_groups = water; freeze_dim = n n y) or
use constraints in the z dimension (posre.itp force constant 1000 along z and 0
along x and y). This will stop it from going into the membrane. Before you
start, sort the initial PDB according to z (you could do this in excel), remove
any waters that you don't want, resort according to original order, and run
pdb2gmx. Note that pope.pdb does have a small cluster of waters in the membrane.
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[gmx-users] Viscosity in PE

2006-09-07 Thread Alessandro Mattozzi
Title: Viscosity in PE








Dear Gromacs-users
I have already run some MD, both in NVT and NPT, of Polyethylene (1000 atoms-backbone).
I would like to estimate the viscosity of my systems. Is it possible even if it is a rubbery solid? Which method is the most suitable?
Regards

Alessandro Mattozzi




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Re: [gmx-users] Charge calculation in Gromacs

2006-09-07 Thread Mark Abraham
> Dear All who may concern,
> I have some questions for the charge calculation in Gromacs, I used
> the
> forcefied ffG43a1 for the protein and inhibitors. Does the charge for the
> protein is the charge  per residue?

The charge on a residue is the sum of the charges on the (united) atoms
that make it up. The charge on a protein is the sum of the charges on the
residues that make it up (or all of the atoms, obviously). The charge per
residue is almost never considered, as it normally doesn't aid anybody
understanding physical behaviour. Hope that answers your question, because
I can't understand it.

> This forcefield is just for the polar
> H,
> right? For the nonpolar H, it will merge the H into the Heavy atom, right?

Don't know in this specific case, but there are such forcefields.

> I
> would like to know that does this force field also calculate the charge
> for
> the nonpolar H and then sum the charge with the heavy atom which it
> connects
> to or it doesn't calculate the charge for the nonpolar H?

The charge on a united atom is just a number - as is the charge on a polar
H, or any H in a non-united-atom force field. You can think of it as the
sum of the charges on the multiple atoms it models if it helps.

> Does the charge
> of
> the Heavy atom is its own charge without sum together with the nonpolar H
> which connect to it? Moreover, I would like to know that if I would like
> to
> use quantum mechanics (qm)  to calculate the charge for my inhibitor, what
> should be the method and the basis set to use to calculate for the charge
> to
> make it compiles with the ffG43a1 force fields?

Sounds like you should find the documentation (journal article?) for this
force field and read it. Also some introductory material on how force
fields work sounds like it might be worthwhile :-) Wanting to extend a
force field you don't understand yet is a recipe for disaster...

Mark

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[gmx-users] Charge calculation in Gromacs

2006-09-07 Thread kanin wichapong
Dear All who may concern,    I have some questions for the
charge calculation in Gromacs, I used the forcefied ffG43a1 for the
protein and inhibitors. Does the charge for the protein is the charge 
per residue? This forcefield is just for the polar H, right? For the
nonpolar H, it will merge the H into the Heavy atom, right? I would
like to know that does this force field also calculate the charge for
the nonpolar H and then sum the charge with the heavy atom which it
connects to or it doesn't calculate the charge for the nonpolar H? Does
the charge of the Heavy atom is its own charge without sum together
with the nonpolar H which connect to it? Moreover, I would like to know
that if I would like to use quantum mechanics (qm)  to calculate the
charge for my inhibitor, what should be the method and the basis set to
use to calculate for the charge to make it compiles with the ffG43a1
force fields? Thank
 you in advance for all of your help. Hope to hear from you soonWith Best all regardKanin Wichapong


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: invacuo minimization

2006-09-07 Thread David van der Spoel

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Hi David,
I have checked the mdout.mdp and as you said it has pbc = xyz. What do 
I do now. I havent run editconf, but why it is taking pbc conditions? How 
do I remove these?? 

pbc=no


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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:44:52 +0200
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Dear gmx users,
When I am minimizing a trimer protein in vacuum by SD as well as CG methods, 
one of the monomer gets apart from the rest of the protein and places 
itself 
away from the other two monomers, which are intact. No periodic box is 
assigned. But when I am running editconf and assigning a box, then the 
structures are intact. What is the reason for the above behaviour? 
I am pasting the em.mdp below:


chekc your mdout.dmp, the default pbc = xyz


cpp =  /lib/cpp
define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
constraints =  none
;integrator  =  CG
integrator  =  steep
nsteps  =  1000
;
;   Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol   =  100
;for SD
emstep  =  0.1
;for CG
;emstep  =  0.001

nstcomm =  1
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0
Tcoupl  =  no
Pcoupl  =  no
gen_vel =  no


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[gmx-users] Re: invacuo minimization

2006-09-07 Thread anwar
 the protein. Should I put restraints
(c-alpha, all atoms) on both protein and ligand or only protein or
ligand or neither of them? My initial thought would be to put restraint 
on c-alpha of the protein and let the rest of the system be "free".
 
Mikko


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[gmx-users] LIE energy calculation!

2006-09-07 Thread Mikko Hellgren
Hi Dear users, I have started to do calculations of the binding between
a protein and different ligands. I have read articles on the LIE method
and one tutorial. But still I have some quite general questions. I am
using Cut-off and NVT ensamble.

1. When I run my ligands in a water solution without the protein, should
I add counterions (Cl and Na) at physiological concentrations (about
10mM to 100mM) or make the system neutral with  one or two ions or can I
ignore any ions the simulation. 

2. Should I put any restraints on the ligand in the simulation without
the protein?

3. When I run my ligand bound to the protein. Should I put restraints
(c-alpha, all atoms) on both protein and ligand or only protein or
ligand or neither of them? My initial thought would be to put restraint
on c-alpha of the protein and let the rest of the system be "free".
 
Mikko


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Re: [gmx-users] invacuo minimization

2006-09-07 Thread David van der Spoel

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Dear gmx users,
When I am minimizing a trimer protein in vacuum by SD as well as CG methods, 
one of the monomer gets apart from the rest of the protein and places itself 
away from the other two monomers, which are intact. No periodic box is 
assigned. But when I am running editconf and assigning a box, then the 
structures are intact. What is the reason for the above behaviour? 
I am pasting the em.mdp below:


chekc your mdout.dmp, the default pbc = xyz



cpp =  /lib/cpp
define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
constraints =  none
;integrator  =  CG
integrator  =  steep
nsteps  =  1000
;
;   Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol   =  100
;for SD
emstep  =  0.1
;for CG
;emstep  =  0.001

nstcomm =  1
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0
Tcoupl  =  no
Pcoupl  =  no
gen_vel =  no


Anwar

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[gmx-users] invacuo minimization

2006-09-07 Thread anwar
Dear gmx users,
When I am minimizing a trimer protein in vacuum by SD as well as CG methods, 
one of the monomer gets apart from the rest of the protein and places itself 
away from the other two monomers, which are intact. No periodic box is 
assigned. But when I am running editconf and assigning a box, then the 
structures are intact. What is the reason for the above behaviour? 
I am pasting the em.mdp below:

cpp =  /lib/cpp
define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
constraints =  none
;integrator  =  CG
integrator  =  steep
nsteps  =  1000
;
;   Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol   =  100
;for SD
emstep  =  0.1
;for CG
;emstep  =  0.001

nstcomm =  1
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0
Tcoupl  =  no
Pcoupl  =  no
gen_vel =  no


Anwar

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Re: [gmx-users] about gromacs

2006-09-07 Thread David van der Spoel

代振宇 wrote:

Hello, everyone:

Would you please tell me that whether Gromacs can be used to do Molecular 
Dynamics studies for Polymer like PVC or PET? Thanks a lot.



yes if you provide the input files. gromacs does not have many tools to 
deal with preparing input files for such systems, but have a look at genbox.



dai0601

2006-09-07


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