Re: [gmx-users] LINCS WARNING

2007-02-13 Thread Mark Abraham

Qiang Zhong wrote:

Hellow :
I am runing a MD of protein. Now I see some warning message on screen,I 
don't
know how to understand it , Could somebody tell me about it? Thank you very 
much!


First, consider what LINCS does. Then consider what could make LINCS 
unhappy with the correspondence between its inputs and outputs. Then 
consider what could cause that.


Yes, MD is not meant to be easy.

Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] LINCS WARNING

2007-02-13 Thread Dallas B. Warren
> I am runing a MD of protein. Now I see some warning 
> message on screen,I don't know how to understand it , Could 
> somebody tell me about it? Thank you very much!

It means that the bond between the two atoms listed there is moving too
far in each time step.  The reason for that problem can greatly vary.
What it does mean is that something is wrong, either with the parameters
or interactions in that region of the simulation, the settings used for
running the simulation, or the structure in that region.

Perform a search of the emailing list using that error message, and you
will come up with a significant number of emails explaining it further,
solutions etc.

Such as these:
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2003-May/005335.html

http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-March/020477.html
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-July/022578.html

Plus many, many more.

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
Lecturer
Department of Pharmaceutical Biology and Pharmacology
Victorian College of Pharmacy, Monash University
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[gmx-users] LINCS WARNING

2007-02-13 Thread Qiang Zhong
Hellow :
I am runing a MD of protein. Now I see some warning message on screen,I 
don't
know how to understand it , Could somebody tell me about it? Thank you very 
much!

bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
931932   33.00.1001   0.1000  0.1000

Step 1535921, time 3071.84 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 0.001443 (between atoms 931 and 932) rms 0.50
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
931934   30.50.1001   0.1000  0.1000

Step 1535922, time 3071.84 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 0.001952 (between atoms 931 and 933) rms 0.62
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
931934   35.20.1000   0.1000  0.1000

Step 1535923, time 3071.85 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 0.001902 (between atoms 931 and 933) rms 0.60
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
931934   33.40.1000   0.0999  0.1000
..


What happen with it,Is this harm to my result? 




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RE: [gmx-users] Atoms in the .top ......

2007-02-13 Thread Dallas B. Warren
> I could figure out the problem and be able to solve it. The 
> problem araised because of the mix-up of the force-field files.

Can you may be elaborate further so that the actual cause and solution
is available in the future for people searching the archive?

Catch ya,

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[gmx-users] Bug fixed in Gromacs-CPMD qmmm interface

2007-02-13 Thread Pradip K Biswas
Hello Gromacs-CPMD qmmm users:I found some compiler/hardware senitive bugs in the Gromacs-CPMD 
qmmm interface release gmx-3.3.1_qmmm-1.3 and fixed them. It has now solved the problem reported by Gireesh M Krishnan few days back and isworking fine inĀ  AMD x86-64, with GNU/Linux 2.6.9.I am waiting for further test resultsĀ  currently conducted by Christian Seifart in some other systems to put up this new version gmx-3.3.1_qmmm-1.3.1in our qmmm site: http://comppsi.csuohio.edu/groups/qmmm.html**As of now, THIS NEW VERSION IS AVAILABLE AT:http://comppsi.csuohio.edu/groups/people/biswas.htmlYou are encouraged to use this new version and report us, if there is any problem.cheers,pb. ___
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Re: FudgeLJ in ffamber - Was: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2007-02-13 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

On Feb 13, 2007, at 9:45 PM, Jones de Andrade wrote:


Hi David.

Ops, you are right. I missexplained, that is what I meant in the  
question.


Well, rewriting it to have the proper and correct question:

Well, I don't even use the [pairtypes] section in my files. Only use
the [pairs] one, in the way explained before. This means, so, that it
should not have any problem, and reduce "independently" the 1 - 4 LJ
potentials by a factor of 0.5, and 1 - 4 coulombic interations by a
factor of 0.8333, correct?


Yes, but I'll nitpick since this can be important: the fudge factors  
specify the fraction of the interaction _remaining_ rather than the  
"reduction factor", so 0.8 means that it is 83% of the standard  
Lennard-Jones interaction. I'm sure this is what you mean since your  
factors are smaller than unity :-)


Cheers,

Erik


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Re: FudgeLJ in ffamber - Was: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2007-02-13 Thread David van der Spoel

Jones de Andrade wrote:

Hi David.

Ops, you are right. I missexplained, that is what I meant in the question.

Well, rewriting it to have the proper and correct question:

Well, I don't even use the [pairtypes] section in my files. Only use
the [pairs] one, in the way explained before. This means, so, that it
should not have any problem, and reduce "independently" the 1 - 4 LJ
potentials by a factor of 0.5, and 1 - 4 coulombic interations by a
factor of 0.8333, correct?

Tnaks a lot in advance,


yes.


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Re: FudgeLJ in ffamber - Was: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2007-02-13 Thread Jones de Andrade

Hi David.

Ops, you are right. I missexplained, that is what I meant in the question.

Well, rewriting it to have the proper and correct question:

Well, I don't even use the [pairtypes] section in my files. Only use
the [pairs] one, in the way explained before. This means, so, that it
should not have any problem, and reduce "independently" the 1 - 4 LJ
potentials by a factor of 0.5, and 1 - 4 coulombic interations by a
factor of 0.8333, correct?

Tnaks a lot in advance,

Sincerally yours,

Jones

On 2/13/07, David van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jones de Andrade wrote:
> Hi Erik.
>
> Well, I don't even use the [pairtypes] section in my files. Only use
> the [pairs] one, in the way explained before. This means, so, that it
> should not have any problem, and reduce "independently" the LJ
> potentials by a factor of 0.5, and coulombic interations by a factor
> of 0.8333, correct?
>
> Thanks a lot for all the help. And hope these "files structure"
> examples helps someone else in the future.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
Of course this only works for the 1-4 interactions, not the normal LJ
and Coulomb interactions. Please see discussion in the manual, chapter 4.

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Re: FudgeLJ in ffamber - Was: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2007-02-13 Thread David van der Spoel

Jones de Andrade wrote:

Hi Erik.

Well, I don't even use the [pairtypes] section in my files. Only use
the [pairs] one, in the way explained before. This means, so, that it
should not have any problem, and reduce "independently" the LJ
potentials by a factor of 0.5, and coulombic interations by a factor
of 0.8333, correct?

Thanks a lot for all the help. And hope these "files structure"
examples helps someone else in the future.

Thanks a lot.

Of course this only works for the 1-4 interactions, not the normal LJ 
and Coulomb interactions. Please see discussion in the manual, chapter 4.


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Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
Husargatan 3, Box 596,  75124 Uppsala, Sweden
phone:  46 18 471 4205  fax: 46 18 511 755
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Re: FudgeLJ in ffamber - Was: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2007-02-13 Thread Jones de Andrade

Hi Erik.

Well, I don't even use the [pairtypes] section in my files. Only use
the [pairs] one, in the way explained before. This means, so, that it
should not have any problem, and reduce "independently" the LJ
potentials by a factor of 0.5, and coulombic interations by a factor
of 0.8333, correct?

Thanks a lot for all the help. And hope these "files structure"
examples helps someone else in the future.

Thanks a lot.

Jones

On 2/13/07, Erik Lindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

That should be fine, as long as your [pairtypes] section is empty
(i.e., nothing that overrides your generated values).

Cheers,

Erik

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Re: FudgeLJ in ffamber - Was: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2007-02-13 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Jones de Andrade wrote:




1 - In a top file, have the lines like this:
[ defaults ]
; nbfunc  com-rulegen-pairs  fudgeLJ  fudgeQ
   12  yes   0.5000  0.8333
#include "ff_moleculeA.itp"
#include "moleculeA.itp"
[ system ]
Pure A
[ molecules ]
;molecule name   nr.
moleculeA   256

2 - In the ff_moleculeA.itp file, it has the [atomtypes], [bondtypes],
[angletypes] and [dihedraltypes] directives, in the standard way and
with all potential parameters.

3 - In the moleculeA.itp file, I included:
[ moleculetype ]
; Name nrexcl
moleculeA3
[atoms] directive, with atomic masses and charges included;
[bonds], [angles] and [dihedrals] directives, *without* the potential
parameters, just the atom indexes;
And the [pairs] directive, with the "funct" included but *no* sigma or
epsilon parameters. The following as an example:
[ pairs ]
;  aial funct sigma (nm)  epsilon (kJ/mol)
   9 5 1
  10 5 1
  11 5 1
...

Now, the question is: is it right, in a way that will use both the
different valued fudgeLJ of 0.5, and the fudgeQQ of 0.8333 for 1-4
interactions, or should I make any kind of correction still?

Thanks a lot in advance for everything,



That should be fine, as long as your [pairtypes] section is empty  
(i.e., nothing that overrides your generated values).


Cheers,

Erik
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Re: [gmx-users] Atoms in the .top ......

2007-02-13 Thread Viswanadham Sridhara

Dear Tsjerk,

I could figure out the problem and be able to solve it. The problem
araised because of the mix-up of the force-field files.

Thanks,
Vissu.

On 2/13/07, Tsjerk Wassenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Viswanadham,

Please explain how or where you obtained your .top and what you
possibly did to it. Did you modify it?

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On 2/13/07, Viswanadham Sridhara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> when I run grompp, I am getting Fatal Error : Atoms in the .top are
> not numbered consecutively.
>
> I checked the archives, this question was asked before, but I did not
> find a solution or a thread email to circumvent the problem.
>
> I am unable to understand where this problem is coming from, I checked
> .top, .gro files and they look fine, atleast to me.
>
> Looking forward to your response.
>
> Best Regards,
> Viswanadham
>
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Re: [gmx-users] Atoms in the .top ......

2007-02-13 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hi Viswanadham,

Please explain how or where you obtained your .top and what you
possibly did to it. Did you modify it?

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On 2/13/07, Viswanadham Sridhara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello all,

when I run grompp, I am getting Fatal Error : Atoms in the .top are
not numbered consecutively.

I checked the archives, this question was asked before, but I did not
find a solution or a thread email to circumvent the problem.

I am unable to understand where this problem is coming from, I checked
.top, .gro files and they look fine, atleast to me.

Looking forward to your response.

Best Regards,
Viswanadham

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Re: FudgeLJ in ffamber - Was: [gmx-users] Re: fudgeQQ (again ...)

2007-02-13 Thread Jones de Andrade

Hi Erik.

Well, first of all thanks a lot for the reply. I hope I do not take
too much time from you or space on the list with this discussion.

I would like to exemplify it, and see if I'm doing it right, or where
there is a mistake. In the worst scenario, there will be an example
for anyone with the same doubt recorded forever in the list.

What I'm doing is:

1 - In a top file, have the lines like this:
[ defaults ]
; nbfunc  com-rulegen-pairs  fudgeLJ  fudgeQ
   12  yes   0.5000  0.8333
#include "ff_moleculeA.itp"
#include "moleculeA.itp"
[ system ]
Pure A
[ molecules ]
;molecule name   nr.
moleculeA   256

2 - In the ff_moleculeA.itp file, it has the [atomtypes], [bondtypes],
[angletypes] and [dihedraltypes] directives, in the standard way and
with all potential parameters.

3 - In the moleculeA.itp file, I included:
[ moleculetype ]
; Name nrexcl
moleculeA3
[atoms] directive, with atomic masses and charges included;
[bonds], [angles] and [dihedrals] directives, *without* the potential
parameters, just the atom indexes;
And the [pairs] directive, with the "funct" included but *no* sigma or
epsilon parameters. The following as an example:
[ pairs ]
;  aial funct sigma (nm)  epsilon (kJ/mol)
   9 5 1
  10 5 1
  11 5 1
...

Now, the question is: is it right, in a way that will use both the
different valued fudgeLJ of 0.5, and the fudgeQQ of 0.8333 for 1-4
interactions, or should I make any kind of correction still?

Thanks a lot in advance for everything,

Sincerally yours,

Jones

On 2/13/07, Erik Lindahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

On Feb 13, 2007, at 6:52 AM, Jones de Andrade wrote:

> Hi guys.
>
> Well, I'm not "exactly" trying t reopen an old discussion. I'm
> trying to see a different aspect from it, as the subject indicates.
>
> Since the message reproduced below is the last of the "fudges"
> questions, I'm worried about the fact of the fudgeLJ meaning
> nothing for the simulation.
>
> First, is it true, and there is no way around to get a working
> fudge LJ of 0.5 AND a fudgeQQ of 0.8333 in gromacs simulations?
>
No, you can certainly use fudge factors with Gromacs.

Essentially:

1. If you do not generate 1,4 ("pair") interactions they will be zero
unless you specify them explicitly.
2. If you do generate them, standard combination rules of the force
field will be applied, combined with the fudge factor.
3. If you generate pairs and still specify some interactions, those
will override the generated values.

Cheers,

Erik

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[gmx-users] Atoms in the .top ......

2007-02-13 Thread Viswanadham Sridhara

Hello all,

when I run grompp, I am getting Fatal Error : Atoms in the .top are
not numbered consecutively.

I checked the archives, this question was asked before, but I did not
find a solution or a thread email to circumvent the problem.

I am unable to understand where this problem is coming from, I checked
.top, .gro files and they look fine, atleast to me.

Looking forward to your response.

Best Regards,
Viswanadham

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