Re: [gmx-users] setup problem

2007-03-07 Thread merc mertens
thank you for your suggestions. actually i tried all -pbc options, but neither 
did help. but i think i found the solution in an old posting from ka feenstra. 
there he writes that due to efficiency (iirc) at least one atom of each part of 
the system has to be in the rectangular waterbox. therefore the translation i 
think. so rotating my protein such that the ligand is at least partly immersed 
in the solvent helped to solve the problem. actually i could have found the 
solution in the manual, chapter 3, as well. seems to be worth reading that 
in-depth ;) 

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Datum: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:20:22 +1100
Von: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Betreff: Re: [gmx-users] setup problem

 merc mertens wrote:
  hello,
  
  i have got a problem with my simulation setup. i prepare a protein with
 two ligands in a dodecahedral box. after the setup the ligands are situated
 in the active site of the protein all right. when i look at the structure
 after em one of the ligands is now outside the protein in the solvent. if i
 generate symmetry mates the ligand is perfectly at its typical position in
 the active site of the next symmetry related molecule. yet the flag -pbc
 nojump in trjconv does not produce a whole molecule!! therefore it seems
 that the ligand is translated during the em step. when i look at the
 structure before em i see that the ligand is outside the solventbox (but 
 inside
 the dodecahedral box!!!) and translated inside the solventbox after em.
 unfortunately i have no idea how to solve this problem except to make the box 
 so
 huge, that calculation becomes too time consuming, as the protein is a
 tetramer with nearly 1500 residues.
 
 Have you tried the trjconv option that puts the COM of each molecule (or 
 residue, I forget) inside the box?
 
 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] positive system total-energy

2007-03-07 Thread Qiao Baofu

Hi David,

Thanks for your reply!

It is a pure ionic liquid system. I compared this energy result with that of
another system, found that the term of  Coul.-recip. is very smaller (-
4664.24) than another system's  result  (-56014.1). All other terms of the
energy are in the same order of magnitute.

What does Coul.-recip mean?

PME is used for Coulomb interaction. Switch is used for LJ interaction.

1. abnormal result
Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift
Tot-Drift
---
Bond8121.16129.568129.564 0.000320592
3.20592
Angle   16284.9174.598174.578 -0.00090818-
9.0818
Ryckaert-Bell.   4489.18147.842144.019 -0.0115717   -115.717
LJ-141169.9734.081833.9909 -0.000861911   -
8.61912
Coulomb-14   2666.03191.396186.964 -0.0141849   -141.849
LJ-(SR)-32381.8146.511  146.4 -0.0019765-
19.765
Disper.-corr.  -2462.415.292795.28651  8.934e-05
0.8934
Coulomb-(SR)   -11046.1213.609210.484  0.0126112126.112
Coul.-recip.   -4664.24 141.26136.108  0.0130948
130.948
Potential  -17823.3250.663250.472 -0.00338716   -
33.8716
Kinetic-En.32678.4188.545188.545 -6.01562e-06 -
0.0601562
Total-Energy   14855.1163.416163.122 -0.00339318   -
33.9318
Temperature299.9651.730711.73071  0
0


2.normal results
Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift
Tot-Drift
---
Bond3707.66103.252103.238 0.000572337
5.7156
Angle   10644.9157.095157.095 4.14791e-06
0.0414228
Ryckaert-Bell.   3215.44108.937108.932 -0.000366312   -
3.65815
LJ-14   1314.1929.530329.5302 -3.01152e-05  -
0.300743
Coulomb-14 -14049.817.410417.4061 0.0001343981.34216
LJ-(SR)-11648.8158.786 158.35 0.00408289
40.7735
Disper.-corr.  -1192.913.766083.73988 0.000153815
1.53606
Coulomb-(SR)   -31913.4149.436148.956  0.004152841.4716
Coul.-recip.   -56014.136.376436.0691 0.00163665
16.3442
Potential  -95936.8248.465 246.67  0.0103406
103.266
Kinetic-En.23457.6186.095186.095 1.29671e-05
0.129495
Total-Energy -72479.2162.228159.458  0.0103536
103.395
Temperature  399.9283.172723.17272 2.21097e-07
0.00220797




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Qiao Baofu wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a 10 ns job. But when using the g_energy to calculate the
 component of the energy, I got a positive total-energy!!

 Who can give some suggestions?  Thanks a lot!

what kind of system? do you happen to have an organic solvent?
in that case you should subtract the self energy per molecule

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Re: [gmx-users] Which force-field for DNA-protein complex ?

2007-03-07 Thread Erik Marklund
I'm currently using AMBER03 for a DNA-protein complex. A little bit  
of struggle and extra examination of topologies and such was needed  
when setting up the system, but nothing too daunting.


/Erik

7 mar 2007 kl. 01.12 skrev mathieu coincon:


I searched the database in order to choose which ff I should use.
But I would like to have feadback from people used to such  
simulations.

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[gmx-users] Fwd: Atom index (1) in settles out of bounds (1-0)

2007-03-07 Thread Joern Lenz
Sorry,
I digged through the post-list of old user-questions and found the same 
problem occuring.
the answer to the question was written by David v.d.Spoel and was:
the position in the top file where the spc.itp was included is wrong.

In my top file this include statement is at the end of the script.
Where should it be ?
Thanks 
Joern

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Subject: Atom index (1) in settles out of bounds (1-0)
Date: Wednesday 07 March 2007 10:53
From: Joern Lenz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear users,
I have a question regarding a simulation (using the amber ports) of DNA
covalently bound to a protein.
First of all I made an entry in the specbond.dat and the bond was correctly
build between the a P of the DNA and a Tyr of the protein.
After that I started grompp and got the following error:

Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1108

Fatal error:
[ file .../bin/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/share/gromacs/top/spc.itp, line
41 ]:
 Atom index (1) in settles out of bounds (1-0)

the content of the spc.itp file in line 41 is (marked with ==:

#ifdef FLEXIBLE
[ bonds ]
; i j   funct   length  force.c.
1   2   1   0.1 345000  0.1 345000
1   3   1   0.1 345000  0.1 345000

[ angles ]
; i j   k   funct   angle   force.c.
2   1   3   1   109.47  383 109.47  383
#else
[ settles ]
; OWfunct   doh dhh
== 1  1   0.1 0.16330

Can anyone tell me how to avoid this error and go on with simulations ?
Many thanks in advance
Joern

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[gmx-users] Atom index (1) in settles out of bounds (1-0)

2007-03-07 Thread Joern Lenz
Dear users,
I have a question regarding a simulation (using the amber ports) of DNA 
covalently bound to a protein.
First of all I made an entry in the specbond.dat and the bond was correctly 
build between the a P of the DNA and a Tyr of the protein.
After that I started grompp and got the following error:

Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1108

Fatal error:
[ file .../bin/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/share/gromacs/top/spc.itp, line 
41 ]:
 Atom index (1) in settles out of bounds (1-0)

the content of the spc.itp file in line 41 is (marked with ==:

#ifdef FLEXIBLE
[ bonds ]
; i j   funct   length  force.c.
1   2   1   0.1 345000  0.1 345000
1   3   1   0.1 345000  0.1 345000

[ angles ]
; i j   k   funct   angle   force.c.
2   1   3   1   109.47  383 109.47  383
#else
[ settles ]
; OWfunct   doh dhh
== 1  1   0.1 0.16330

Can anyone tell me how to avoid this error and go on with simulations ?
Many thanks in advance
Joern
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[gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

2007-03-07 Thread andrea spitaleri
Hi all,
silly question. I have checked a trr with gmxcheck and I get this output below:
Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step701
Time701
Lambda  701
Coords  701
Velocities  243
Forces   0
Box 701

however if then i use trjconv to dump a configuration file at 70 ps it says:
WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 69

Is it normal? I don't mind to extract a configuration file at 69 ps, however i 
was wondering if this
behaviour is normal or whether it is bug.

thanks in advance

Regards

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Re: [gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

2007-03-07 Thread David van der Spoel

andrea spitaleri wrote:

Hi all,
silly question. I have checked a trr with gmxcheck and I get this output below:
Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step701
Time701
Lambda  701
Coords  701
Velocities  243
Forces   0
Box 701

however if then i use trjconv to dump a configuration file at 70 ps it says:
WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 69

Is it normal? I don't mind to extract a configuration file at 69 ps, however i 
was wondering if this
behaviour is normal or whether it is bug.

thanks in advance

Regards

andrea
is the simulation still running? then file buffering may play in. alt. 
if you kill -9 then the buffers will not be flushed.


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Re: [gmx-users] positive system total-energy

2007-03-07 Thread David van der Spoel

Qiao Baofu wrote:

Hi David,

Thanks for your reply!

It is a pure ionic liquid system. I compared this energy result with 
that of another system, found that the term of  Coul.-recip. is very 
smaller (-4664.24) than another system's  result  (- 56014.1). All other 
terms of the energy are in the same order of magnitute.


What does Coul.-recip mean? 

Energy from PME.

Please do a simulation of a single ion in vacuum (same box size) and 
from that determine the single molecule energy. You have to subtract 
this N times from your potential energy.


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Re: [gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

2007-03-07 Thread andrea spitaleri
Hi
nope they are both finished. I have also checked the edr files and the time 
does not correspond to
the time found in the respectively trr files. Those MD are carried out in a 
supercomputer (SARA in
Amsterdam) and they were killed by the queue system. Probably as you said a 
buffer problem ...

gmx version 3.3.1

Regards

andrea

David van der Spoel wrote:
 andrea spitaleri wrote:
 Hi all,
 silly question. I have checked a trr with gmxcheck and I get this
 output below:
 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step701
 Time701
 Lambda  701
 Coords  701
 Velocities  243
 Forces   0
 Box 701

 however if then i use trjconv to dump a configuration file at 70 ps it
 says:
 WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 69

 Is it normal? I don't mind to extract a configuration file at 69 ps,
 however i was wondering if this
 behaviour is normal or whether it is bug.

 thanks in advance

 Regards

 andrea
 is the simulation still running? then file buffering may play in. alt.
 if you kill -9 then the buffers will not be flushed.
 

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Re: [gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

2007-03-07 Thread andrea spitaleri
Hi,
however in md0.log the right time is reported (69 and not 70)

and

David van der Spoel wrote:
 andrea spitaleri wrote:
 Hi all,
 silly question. I have checked a trr with gmxcheck and I get this
 output below:
 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step701
 Time701
 Lambda  701
 Coords  701
 Velocities  243
 Forces   0
 Box 701

 however if then i use trjconv to dump a configuration file at 70 ps it
 says:
 WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 69

 Is it normal? I don't mind to extract a configuration file at 69 ps,
 however i was wondering if this
 behaviour is normal or whether it is bug.

 thanks in advance

 Regards

 andrea
 is the simulation still running? then file buffering may play in. alt.
 if you kill -9 then the buffers will not be flushed.
 

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Re: [gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

2007-03-07 Thread David van der Spoel

andrea spitaleri wrote:

Hi,
however in md0.log the right time is reported (69 and not 70)

and

David van der Spoel wrote:

andrea spitaleri wrote:

Hi all,
silly question. I have checked a trr with gmxcheck and I get this
output below:
Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step701
Time701
Lambda  701
Coords  701
Velocities  243
Forces   0
Box 701

however if then i use trjconv to dump a configuration file at 70 ps it
says:
WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 69

Is it normal? I don't mind to extract a configuration file at 69 ps,
however i was wondering if this
behaviour is normal or whether it is bug.

thanks in advance

Regards

andrea

is the simulation still running? then file buffering may play in. alt.
if you kill -9 then the buffers will not be flushed.




buffering is separate per file. in trr you have only half a frame.

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[gmx-users] g_rdf

2007-03-07 Thread marco cammarata
Hi,

I'm using g_rdf to calculate the RDF of a system.
The r range ends at 3nm.
I would like to change it to 100nm but it seems that there are
no option for it.
Can you help me ?
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RE: [gmx-users] limitations in the umbrella sampling

2007-03-07 Thread Berk Hess





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Subject: [gmx-users] limitations in the umbrella sampling
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:33:38 -0500

Dear all,

In the manual, it says :
If a group contains part of a molecule of which the bondlengths are 
constrained, the results may be unreliable.


I'm a little confused.
Let's think of the following two cases (A: the reference group, B: a group 
which will be pulled) :


1) A(partially constrained)  + B (no constraints)
2) A(no constraints) + B(partially constrained)

Does it mean that both pmf calculations are not reliable ? Should I use the 
free energy code for both cases ?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thank you.


If you read the manual more carefully you can see that this
restriction only applies to constraint pulling, not umbrella pulling.

Berk.

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Re: [gmx-users] g_rdf

2007-03-07 Thread David van der Spoel

marco cammarata wrote:

Hi,

I'm using g_rdf to calculate the RDF of a system.
The r range ends at 3nm.
I would like to change it to 100nm but it seems that there are
no option for it.
Can you help me ?
thanks,
marco

The CVS version has an option to turn off the periodic boundary 
conditions. That only makes sense in special cases though.


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Re: [gmx-users] g_rdf

2007-03-07 Thread Qiao Baofu

2007/3/7, marco cammarata [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi,

I'm using g_rdf to calculate the RDF of a system.
The r range ends at 3nm.



r range ends at  3nm because  (your box size)/2 is 3 nm

I would like to change it to 100nm but it seems that there are

no option for it.



100 nm? Are you sure? it is much biggger than your box size, so you will
have some pairs between an atom and itself (in other boxs).

If you really want so, you can change some lines in the gmx_rdf.c.


Can you help me ?

thanks,
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse

2007-03-07 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hi Ji Qing,

Write out the energies at every step and check which of the energy
contributions goes astray. This may give you a good clue to where
you're mistake is. Also, run through the topology again, by hand,
checking all bonds, angles, dihedrals, exclusion (implicit ones!),
etc.

Good luck,

Tsjerk

On 3/7/07, kitty ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Thanks Mark.
But when one polymer chain was used, non-bonded interaction has already been
there. Because one chain means C44H156O22.
After all, I'd like to try more chains.

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kitty ji wrote:
 Hi GMX user:

 A model for Poly(vinyl methyl ether) was built with OPLS force field (
 all H ).



 When the model was run alone (a single chain) in vacuum, anything goes ok.



 But with 45 chains box, the system will be collapse with a little bond
 elongates abnormal whatever in NVT or NPT.



 The relax time of pressure and temperature were adjust but no helpful.



 How can I found some possible reason and then fix it ? Any advise will
 be appreciated.

If an isolated molecule doesn't do anything strange, and two more more
do, then you have a problem with inter-molecular interactions, i.e. the
non-bonded ones. Try with just 2 chains to verify this... and look
carefully at the atom types and the non-bonded parameters for them.

Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] setup problem

2007-03-07 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hi Merc,

Probably, the .tpr file you used for trjconv -pbc nojump already had
the ligand jumped. In that case, you will find all frames consistently
having a shift between the ligand and the protein. Make sure you use a
reference which has the ligand in place (the .pdb or .gro file you
used to set up the system for example).

Oh, and do read about periodic boundary conditions.

Best,

Tsjerk

On 3/7/07, merc mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

thank you for your suggestions. actually i tried all -pbc options, but neither 
did help. but i think i found the solution in an old posting from ka feenstra. 
there he writes that due to efficiency (iirc) at least one atom of each part of 
the system has to be in the rectangular waterbox. therefore the translation i 
think. so rotating my protein such that the ligand is at least partly immersed 
in the solvent helped to solve the problem. actually i could have found the 
solution in the manual, chapter 3, as well. seems to be worth reading that 
in-depth ;)

 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:20:22 +1100
Von: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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CC:
Betreff: Re: [gmx-users] setup problem

 merc mertens wrote:
  hello,
 
  i have got a problem with my simulation setup. i prepare a protein with
 two ligands in a dodecahedral box. after the setup the ligands are situated
 in the active site of the protein all right. when i look at the structure
 after em one of the ligands is now outside the protein in the solvent. if i
 generate symmetry mates the ligand is perfectly at its typical position in
 the active site of the next symmetry related molecule. yet the flag -pbc
 nojump in trjconv does not produce a whole molecule!! therefore it seems
 that the ligand is translated during the em step. when i look at the
 structure before em i see that the ligand is outside the solventbox (but 
inside
 the dodecahedral box!!!) and translated inside the solventbox after em.
 unfortunately i have no idea how to solve this problem except to make the box 
so
 huge, that calculation becomes too time consuming, as the protein is a
 tetramer with nearly 1500 residues.

 Have you tried the trjconv option that puts the COM of each molecule (or
 residue, I forget) inside the box?

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

2007-03-07 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hey Andrea,

Also note that you have 70 FRAMES with 1 ps time step. That means,
with the first frame at t=0, that you have a maximum time of (70-1)*1
ps = 69 ps in the output.

Ciao!

Tsjerk

On 3/7/07, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

andrea spitaleri wrote:
 Hi,
 however in md0.log the right time is reported (69 and not 70)

 and

 David van der Spoel wrote:
 andrea spitaleri wrote:
 Hi all,
 silly question. I have checked a trr with gmxcheck and I get this
 output below:
 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step701
 Time701
 Lambda  701
 Coords  701
 Velocities  243
 Forces   0
 Box 701

 however if then i use trjconv to dump a configuration file at 70 ps it
 says:
 WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 69

 Is it normal? I don't mind to extract a configuration file at 69 ps,
 however i was wondering if this
 behaviour is normal or whether it is bug.

 thanks in advance

 Regards

 andrea
 is the simulation still running? then file buffering may play in. alt.
 if you kill -9 then the buffers will not be flushed.


buffering is separate per file. in trr you have only half a frame.

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[gmx-users] limitations in the umbrella sampling

2007-03-07 Thread Seungho Choe

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Re: [gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

2007-03-07 Thread spitaleri.andrea
Hi Tsjerk,
true 
i have to remember to start to count from 0 ... as usual :P

thanks 

andrea

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- Original Message -
From: Tsjerk Wassenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] gmxcheck and trjconv

 Hey Andrea,
 
 Also note that you have 70 FRAMES with 1 ps time step. That means,
 with the first frame at t=0, that you have a maximum time of (70-1)*1
 ps = 69 ps in the output.
 
 Ciao!
 
 Tsjerk
 
 On 3/7/07, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  andrea spitaleri wrote:
   Hi,
   however in md0.log the right time is reported (69 and not 70)
  
   and
  
   David van der Spoel wrote:
   andrea spitaleri wrote:
   Hi all,
   silly question. I have checked a trr with gmxcheck and I get 
 this  output below:
   Item#frames Timestep (ps)
   Step701
   Time701
   Lambda  701
   Coords  701
   Velocities  243
   Forces   0
   Box 701
  
   however if then i use trjconv to dump a configuration file 
 at 70 ps it
   says:
   WARNING no output, trajectory ended at 69
  
   Is it normal? I don't mind to extract a configuration file 
 at 69 ps,
   however i was wondering if this
   behaviour is normal or whether it is bug.
  
   thanks in advance
  
   Regards
  
   andrea
   is the simulation still running? then file buffering may play 
 in. alt.
   if you kill -9 then the buffers will not be flushed.
  
  
  buffering is separate per file. in trr you have only half a frame.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] genbox give coord file more waters than top file

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Abraham
 Dear gromacs guys

 Why would genbox put more water molecules in my .gro file than in my .top
 file? I'm sure all I have to do is edit the number in my top file, but I
 have not had this happen before, does anyone know of  a reason that this
 happens so I can fix my file?

genbox doesn't read a top and produce that many solvent molecules. For a
start, how does it know what shape you want them in? Read man genbox,
choose what you want to do, apply genbox, and then edit your .top so the
number of waters agrees with what genbox produced... not the other way
around.

Mark

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[gmx-users] PME, epsilon_rf and dielectric constant calculation

2007-03-07 Thread Itamar Kass

Dear all,

I wish to calculate the dielectric constant of small molecules liquids.
In order to do so, I am simulating the system using PME, with epsilon_r 
   = 1.


I have few questions:
1. What is the meaning of epsilon_rf when I am using PME, if it 
important, what it should be?
2. Whet is the best way to calculate the dielectric constant of the 
simulation box, does g_dipole is enough or should I use g_dielectric also.


Best, Itamar
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Re: [gmx-users] PME, epsilon_rf and dielectric constant calculation

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Abraham
 Dear all,

 I wish to calculate the dielectric constant of small molecules liquids.
 In order to do so, I am simulating the system using PME, with epsilon_r
 = 1.

 I have few questions:
 1. What is the meaning of epsilon_rf when I am using PME, if it
 important, what it should be?

Have you looked in section 7.3?

 2. Whet is the best way to calculate the dielectric constant of the
 simulation box, does g_dipole is enough or should I use g_dielectric also.

I don't know.

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] PME, epsilon_rf and dielectric constant calculation

2007-03-07 Thread Itamar Kass

Dear Mark,

I read the manual few times looking for a clue. The only thing I could 
understand it that epsilon_rf is not taking inti account if I don't use 
reaction field.


Best, Itamar.

Mark Abraham wrote:

Dear all,

I wish to calculate the dielectric constant of small molecules liquids.
In order to do so, I am simulating the system using PME, with epsilon_r
   = 1.

I have few questions:
1. What is the meaning of epsilon_rf when I am using PME, if it
important, what it should be?



Have you looked in section 7.3?



2. Whet is the best way to calculate the dielectric constant of the
simulation box, does g_dipole is enough or should I use g_dielectric also.



I don't know.

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] PME, epsilon_rf and dielectric constant calculation

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Abraham
 Dear Mark,

 I read the manual few times looking for a clue. The only thing I could
 understand it that epsilon_rf is not taking inti account if I don't use
 reaction field.

7.3.9 clearly says epsilon_rf: (1) The relative dielectric constant of
the reaction field. This is only used with reaction-field electrostatics.
A value of 0 means infinity.

Mark

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse

2007-03-07 Thread kitty ji
Tsjerk Wassenaar, thank you very much for you suggestion even if most of them 
have been manipulated. 

 

Write out the energies at every step and check which of the energy
contributions goes astray. This may give you a good clue to where
you're mistake is. Also, run through the topology again, by hand,
checking all bonds, angles, dihedrals, exclusion (implicit ones!),
etc.

when the explosion happened, the energy of bond, angle and potential will were 
increase. And the topology has been checked several times. 

 

 

Now I increase the cutoff of VDW  Coulomb from 0.9 to 1.5. The system looks ok 
from last night to this time. If the problem is fixed, I conclude that cutoff 
0.9 is not enough for electric system.



Hope this conclusion is helpful for GMX users.




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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:49:30 +0100
From: Tsjerk Wassenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse
To: kitty ji [EMAIL PROTECTED], Discussion list for GROMACS
users gmx-users@gromacs.org
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312; format=flowed

Hi Ji Qing,

Write out the energies at every step and check which of the energy
contributions goes astray. This may give you a good clue to where
you're mistake is. Also, run through the topology again, by hand,
checking all bonds, angles, dihedrals, exclusion (implicit ones!),
etc.

Good luck,

Tsjerk

On 3/7/07, kitty ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Thanks Mark.
 But when one polymer chain was used, non-bonded interaction has already been
 there. Because one chain means C44H156O22.
 After all, I'd like to try more chains.

 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:01:52 +1100
 From: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312

 kitty ji wrote:
  Hi GMX user:
 
  A model for Poly(vinyl methyl ether) was built with OPLS force field (
  all H ).
 
 
 
  When the model was run alone (a single chain) in vacuum, anything goes ok.
 
 
 
  But with 45 chains box, the system will be collapse with a little bond
  elongates abnormal whatever in NVT or NPT.
 
 
 
  The relax time of pressure and temperature were adjust but no helpful.
 
 
 
  How can I found some possible reason and then fix it ? Any advise will
  be appreciated.

 If an isolated molecule doesn't do anything strange, and two more more
 do, then you have a problem with inter-molecular interactions, i.e. the
 non-bonded ones. Try with just 2 chains to verify this... and look
 carefully at the atom types and the non-bonded parameters for them.

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