Re: [gmx-users] backup files

2007-03-17 Thread Mark Abraham
 Thanks for you reply but, I'm afraid it doesn't work with me!

 In fact, if I write more \#conf.gro# I can read from this file.

 However, when using it as input for gromacs utilities the programs
 complain
 of input error.

cp #conf.gro# good.gro


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[gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-17 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi,

I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance 
around the protein molecule. I could not find the appropriate command for this 
in manual. Moreover, I could not understand the information for g_sorient.Could 
you give me a more detailed explanation for this?

Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin




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[gmx-users] Gromacs 3.3.1 vs SegFault

2007-03-17 Thread Stas Bobritsky

Hi all.
I`m trying to make short MD simulation in tRNA+water+ions(Na+) system.
But mdrun fails with Segmentaiont Fault. I can`t fix it, please help, if
it`s possible.
Gromacs version: 3.3.1
Forcefield: ffamber99p.

Stas Bobritsky, student.
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[gmx-users] about PMF calculation

2007-03-17 Thread 黄永棋
Hi gmx-users
 
I am a gromacs beginner, I want to do the PMF calculation ,I have done as the 
manual said ,I added the ppa, ndx files and got a pdo file . But I don't know 
what to do with this pdo file.
Can anyone tell me what should I do if I want to calculate the PMF?
Thanks in advance.
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] freezing/position restraints and minimization

2007-03-17 Thread Jeroen van Bemmelen
Hmm, interesting...

And what about the -DFLEXIBLE definition in your mdp file during 
steepest descent minimization? Do you know if that will also deform 
your (SPC) water molecules? And will that deformation be corrected 
again during the first equilibration step(s)?

I ask this, because I read on severel places (e.g. the online mdp 
options manual and in one of the tutorials) that you could use the -
DFLEXIBLE definition to allow steepest descent to minimize further. 
So I've used it for most of my minimizations up til now, assuming 
that was the right thing to do.

Thanks,
Jeroen


On 17 Mar 2007 at 12:00, David Mobley wrote:
 Sorry to e-mail so much. But it seems this is, indeed, the problem.
 For freeze groups to work in minimization you need to use a minimizer
 which is can handle constraints properly. In GROMACS the only
 minimizer that is set up to handle constraints properly is steepest
 descents.
 
 Note that this also has implications for anyone using rigid water
 models (most of us): If you're minimizing with L-BFGS or other
 minimizers aside from steepest descents, you're probably deforming
 your water molecules, as well.
 
 David
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回复: [gmx-users] about PMF calculation

2007-03-17 Thread xi zhao
try mdrun_d and g_wham:
  Can you tell me how to produce pdo file?
  thank you very much!

黄永棋 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道:
Hi gmx-users
   
  I am a gromacs beginner, I want to do the PMF calculation ,I have done as the 
manual said ,I added the ppa, ndx files and got a pdo file . But I don't know 
what to do with this pdo file.
  Can anyone tell me what should I do if I want to calculate the PMF?
  Thanks in advance.
   
   
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Re: [gmx-users] freezing/position restraints and minimization

2007-03-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Jeroen van Bemmelen wrote:

Hmm, interesting...

And what about the -DFLEXIBLE definition in your mdp file during 
steepest descent minimization? Do you know if that will also deform 
your (SPC) water molecules? And will that deformation be corrected 
again during the first equilibration step(s)?


I ask this, because I read on severel places (e.g. the online mdp 
options manual and in one of the tutorials) that you could use the -
DFLEXIBLE definition to allow steepest descent to minimize further. 
So I've used it for most of my minimizations up til now, assuming 
that was the right thing to do.
it is fine, but your bond lengths and bond angle in water will be 
slightly off the equilibrium values. This will be corrected during th 
eequilibration.




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Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-17 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi. g_hbond can do that, sort of. You can calculate e.g. the nr of  
water oxygens within a certain distance from the protein. The  
limitation lies in that g_hbond operates at a atom basis, not  
molecule, meaning that there is strictly no way of finding the number  
of solvent molecules directly. However, I think that counting the nr  
of water oxygens would be good enough for most applications.


/Erik

17 mar 2007 kl. 11.17 skrev OZGE ENGIN:


Hi,

I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff  
distance around the protein molecule. I could not find the  
appropriate command for this in manual. Moreover, I could not  
understand the information for g_sorient.Could you give me a more  
detailed explanation for this?


Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin




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Re: [gmx-users] Adding a new force field to Gromacs

2007-03-17 Thread Yang Ye

Actually it is about to add a new form of potential energy function.
A quick but dirty method is to user User Table for NB interaction. Check 
it from the manual.


Regards,
Yang Ye

Tandia, Adama wrote:

Dear ALL:

Is it documented somewhere how can one add a new non-bonded force field
into Gromacs? I'm interested on adding the Stillinger-Weber force field,
with two and three body contributions. Has anyone ever tried this
before?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Best wishes,

Adama

 
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Re: [gmx-users] Restarting a gromacs calcluation

2007-03-17 Thread Yang Ye

Milan Melichercik wrote:

Dňa Pi 16. Marec 2007 14:19 Triguero, Luciano O napísal:
  

Dear Users,

Thank for your help. I started a 10 ns simulation, but it dies because of
an error in the cluster PBS system, so I want to continue the simulation
from the last (r,v) point. May I still use tpbconv to restart from that
last point and continue the simulation.

Check where your trr or edr file ends using gmxcheck -f or -e. The 
shorter will be used by tpbconv for your new tpr. Specify tpbconv with 
-f and -e.


Sure - as far as I know. It will generate new .tpr, which you will use for 
starting the simulation - when it is finished, simply concatenate 
trajectories, energy files with trjcat and eneconv.


Milan

  

Thank again,

Luciano

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Can you be more specific? Continue or start new simulation. Use tpbconv
to extend your simulation.

On 3/16/2007 9:37 AM, Triguero, Luciano O wrote:


Dear users,

How do I restart a gromacs simulation?

Ciao,

Luciano

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Re: [gmx-users] oplsaa with tip4p

2007-03-17 Thread Yang Ye
Create the top for the protein alone. Then insert #include tip4p.itp 
and add new entries under [ molecules ] section


Regards,
Yang Ye

Christian Seifert wrote:

Hi.

I want to use the ff oplsaa with tip4p water (as suggested in the manual).

Using:
genbox_d -cp hpo4_box.pdb -o hpo4_water.pdb -cs tip4p.gro

creates a good pdf-file with tip4p-water, but the following:
pdb2gmx_d -f hpo4_water.pdb -o hpo4_water.gro -p hpo4_water.top -ff oplsaa -n 
hpo4_water.ndx -water tip4p


brings up this error:

---
Program pdb2gmx_d, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: pdb2gmx.c, line: 393

Fatal error:
Atom MW in residue HO4 1 not found in rtp entry with 4 atoms
 while sorting atoms
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Is there any workaround?

Thanks in advance

Christian Seifert.
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Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-17 Thread Yang Ye

try g_trjorder. Some code modification may be needed.

Regards,
Yang Ye

OZGE ENGIN wrote:

Hi,

I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around the protein molecule. I could not find the appropriate command for this in manual. Moreover, I could not understand the information for g_sorient.Could you give me a more detailed explanation for this? 


Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin



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Re: [gmx-users] Adding a new force field to Gromacs

2007-03-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Yang Ye wrote:

Actually it is about to add a new form of potential energy function.
A quick but dirty method is to user User Table for NB interaction. Check 
it from the manual.


Regards,
Yang Ye

Tandia, Adama wrote:

Dear ALL:

Is it documented somewhere how can one add a new non-bonded force field
into Gromacs? I'm interested on adding the Stillinger-Weber force field,
with two and three body contributions. Has anyone ever tried this
before?

Thanks in advance for your answers.


Except that gromacs can not do three body nonbonded interactions. It 
wouldn't be very hard to add the force calculations, but the input would 
be slightly more involved. If you want to do this yourself then we 
should move this thread to the developers mailing list.

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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error when using Hbond restraints

2007-03-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Robert Johnson wrote:

Hello everyone,
I'm performing a simulation that includes a 2D infinite SiO2
substrate. I'm not interested in the high frequency motion of the
substrate bonds, so I'm applying position restraints to all the SiO2
atoms. I have other molecules in the system such as water and DNA that
require hydrogen bond restraints. However, I'm getting the following
error when trying to run the system across several nodes:
Fatal error:
Shake block crossing node boundaries
constraint between atoms (1680,1716)

The atoms listed are in the substrate. Since I'm already restraining
the substrate atoms, I don't really need to constrain the Hbonds in
the SiO2. Is there any way to apply Hbond restraints only to a group
of atoms?

Alternatively, how does Gromacs decide which bonds contain hydrogen? I
could just alter the topology file for the substrate to trick Gromacs
into thinking that the hydrogens in the SiO2 are really a different
type of atom.
Thanks,
Bob Johnson
I'm at this very moment looking at 
http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110
which reports the same error. You might try to use pbc=full and 
contraint_algorithm = lincs to circumvent the problem.


The problem you have does not arise from the position restraints though, 
and, by the way, you probably don't need those restraints at all. I 
don't know what you mean with hbond restraints though...


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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error when using Hbond restraints

2007-03-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Robert Johnson wrote:

Hello everyone,
I'm performing a simulation that includes a 2D infinite SiO2
substrate. I'm not interested in the high frequency motion of the
substrate bonds, so I'm applying position restraints to all the SiO2
atoms. I have other molecules in the system such as water and DNA that
require hydrogen bond restraints. However, I'm getting the following
error when trying to run the system across several nodes:
Fatal error:
Shake block crossing node boundaries
constraint between atoms (1680,1716)

The atoms listed are in the substrate. Since I'm already restraining
the substrate atoms, I don't really need to constrain the Hbonds in
the SiO2. Is there any way to apply Hbond restraints only to a group
of atoms?

Alternatively, how does Gromacs decide which bonds contain hydrogen? I
could just alter the topology file for the substrate to trick Gromacs
into thinking that the hydrogens in the SiO2 are really a different
type of atom.
Thanks,
Bob Johnson
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Bob,

try using
constraints = all-bonds,
or make sure that your charge groups overlap with the constraint groups.

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

2007-03-17 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Thank you very much for your attention!

Best regards,
Ozge Engin


-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:35:13 +0800
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Appropriate tool to get the number of solvent 
molecules within a cutoff distance around protein molecule

try g_trjorder. Some code modification may be needed.

Regards,
Yang Ye

OZGE ENGIN wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to calculate the number of solvent molecules within a cutoff distance 
 around the protein molecule. I could not find the appropriate command for 
 this in manual. Moreover, I could not understand the information for 
 g_sorient.Could you give me a more detailed explanation for this? 

 Thanks in advance

 Ozge Engin



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Re: [gmx-users] problem regarding mdrun and g_hbond

2007-03-17 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hi David,

Of course, it's not a dogma... But in your case, it will be well
thought over. That makes the difference. (From another point of view,
if the simulation system is small, often you'll still want temperature
coupling anyway...). Anyway, as with all gromacs warnings, they should
just make you think about the things you're doing. If you know it's
what you want, you can always ignore'm.

Tsjerk

On 3/16/07, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark Abraham wrote:
 I think a warning is a good idea, but maybe 10 is even on the low side
 for that. Since temperature is macroscopic, you'll need enough atoms
 not to deviate too much from the target temperature. I have no
 evidence on which I can make a proper suggestion... My bidding will be
 50! Going once, going twice... (maybe someone has looked more into
 this matter. David, Berk?).

 I added a bugzilla enhancement-request for this feature, suggesting that
 if the user tries 3+ T-coupling groups where the smallest is less than 10%
 of the smaller of the other two then we probably have a case of bad
 planning from the user, and should give a warning. Doubtless there are
 better ideas out there... it's after midnight here!
I've implemented the 10% of atoms test. Could be changed to a fixed
number of atoms as well. Not sure which one makes more sense (I quite
often simulate systems that fall under the fixed atom limit (didn't
Tsjerk say 50?)).
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[gmx-users] POPC membrane simulation (popc.itp)

2007-03-17 Thread maite lopez

Hi all:

I ´m working on membrane peptides simulation under lipid (POPC, from
Peter Tieleman group site) and i want to do a popc.itp file using
ffG53a5 force field.  Some days ago i was working with dppc membranes
and i took  one lipid and run it through pdb2gmx,
using my favourite force field and include the dppc.itp file in my
.top file, but   i know that the topology of popc lipid isn´t  in the
database of gromacs.
I ´ve obtained the popc.itp (one lipid) of the PRODRG server, but the
conformation is bad, i note that when i visualize it in VMD and i
analyze some parameters. Also the atom types are different.

I think i can to converter the dppc.itp file in popc.itp file, but i
don´t know what to do.
Should i take the topology of dppc lipid and modified it including
some atoms of the oleoil chain of the popc lipid (CA1 y CA2 atoms)?
Can i find the parameters of the similar bounds of the last atoms and
include it in the dppc.itp file?

Could anybody help me?

Thank you for your time

Maite
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RE: [gmx-users] Restarting a gromacs calcluation

2007-03-17 Thread Triguero, Luciano O
 Dear Users,

 Thank for your help. I started a 10 ns simulation, but it dies because of
 an error in the cluster PBS system, so I want to continue the simulation
 from the last (r,v) point. May I still use tpbconv to restart from that
 last point and continue the simulation.

Check where your trr or edr file ends using gmxcheck -f or -e. The
shorter will be used by tpbconv for your new tpr. Specify tpbconv with
-f and -e.
 
Dear,
 
Thank for your answer. I still have a problem. Do you mean (-f and -e) or (-f 
or -e)
 
I checked my trr and edr files and edr files ends first, then I typed:
 
tpbconv   -s md_input.tpr -f .trr -e .edr -o md_cont.tpr
 
and got the following error message:
 
++
Opened md_minim_energy.edr as single precision energy file
Reading frame   4000 time 4000.000   
Last frame read 4876   
WARNING: Incomplete frame: nr   4877 time 4876.000 
---
Program tpbconv, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: enxio.c, line: 401
Fatal error:
Could not find frame with time 4884.00 in 'md_minim_energy.edr'
+++
 
However, tpbconv runs without error when I provide only option -e .edr. Is it 
correct to restart 
a calculation with the .tpr file generated with only -e .edr option. Will be 
then possible to concatenate trajectories correctely?
 
Advices,
 
Thank for your time,
 
Luciano 
 
 


 Sure - as far as I know. It will generate new .tpr, which you will use for
 starting the simulation - when it is finished, simply concatenate
 trajectories, energy files with trjcat and eneconv.

 Milan

  
 Thank again,

 Luciano

 Dr. Luciano Triguero College of Art and Science Department of Physics and
 Chemistry Cox Science Building 1301 Memorial Drive, Room 146 P.O Box 249118
 Coral Gables, FL 33124-0431 Cellular: 305-904-2419 Office: 305-284-3938

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Yang Ye
 Sent: Fri 3/16/2007 8:49 AM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Restarting a gromacs calcluation



 Can you be more specific? Continue or start new simulation. Use tpbconv
 to extend your simulation.

 On 3/16/2007 9:37 AM, Triguero, Luciano O wrote:

 Dear users,

 How do I restart a gromacs simulation?

 Ciao,

 Luciano

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 Chemistry Cox Science Building 1301 Memorial Drive, Room 146 P.O Box
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[gmx-users] Re:isotropic force constant

2007-03-17 Thread Qiang Zhong

  Thank you for your advice,I have find define=-DPOSRE in my pr.mdp file,
 but I don't know which parameter indicate isotropic force constant of
 100kjmol-1A-1. Though I use ref_t=300 for my simulation.
 
   Dear users:
I have a position restrain .mdp file need to set,I use 300K
   in which an isotropic force constant of 100kjmol-1A-1 is applied to
   all nonhydroggen protein atoms.
  
   In my pr.mdp file which parameter I should add?
   Thank you very much!
   
  If you use pdb2gmx, it will generate a posre.itp file which you can modify
  to do whatever you want (although I think the above might be the default).
  See the manual for details on how. Then to make it work, the .mdp file
  needs to have 'defines = -DPOSRE' or something similar - check manual
  section 7.3.
  
  Mark
 
 



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