Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of atomtypes for dihedral (4 instead of 2 or 4)

2007-08-31 Thread fulya caglar
 
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  Thanks for your helps!
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[gmx-users] grompp error

2007-08-31 Thread Dhananjay
Hello all,

I am trying to minimise a structure having 3 chains and each of having 90
residues. While running grompp , I got following error.
Please tell me how to fix this error.

Thanking you in advance .


creating statusfile for 1 node...
checking input for internal consistency...
calling /usr/bin/cpp...
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:11:23: error: ffG43a1.itp: No such file or
directory
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:19:19: error: spc.itp: No such file or
directory
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:29:20: error: ions.itp: No such file or
directory
cpp exit code: 256
Tried to execute: '/usr/bin/cpp
-I:/home/soft/GromacSingle/share/gromacs/top:/home/soft/GromacSingle/share/gromacs/top
-DFLEX_SPC human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top  grompp6I6a2P'
The '/usr/bin/cpp' command is defined in the .mdp file
processing topology...
Cleaning up temporary file grompp6I6a2P
---
Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: topio.c, line: 388

Fatal error:
Invalid order for directive moleculetype, file
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43_A.itp, line 10
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Re: [gmx-users] grompp error

2007-08-31 Thread David van der Spoel

Dhananjay wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to minimise a structure having 3 chains and each of having 
90 residues. While running grompp , I got following error.

Please tell me how to fix this error.


chapter 5.

wiki.gromacs.org


Thanking you in advance .


creating statusfile for 1 node...
checking input for internal consistency...
calling /usr/bin/cpp...
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:11:23: error: ffG43a1.itp: No such file 
or directory
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:19:19: error: spc.itp: No such file or 
directory
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:29:20: error: ions.itp: No such file or 
directory

cpp exit code: 256
Tried to execute: '/usr/bin/cpp  
-I:/home/soft/GromacSingle/share/gromacs/top:/home/soft/GromacSingle/share/gromacs/top 
-DFLEX_SPC human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top  grompp6I6a2P'

The '/usr/bin/cpp' command is defined in the .mdp file
processing topology...
Cleaning up temporary file grompp6I6a2P
---
Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: topio.c, line: 388

Fatal error:
Invalid order for directive moleculetype, file 
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43_A.itp, line 10

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Re: [gmx-users] grompp error

2007-08-31 Thread Mark Abraham

Dhananjay wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to minimise a structure having 3 chains and each of having 
90 residues. While running grompp , I got following error.

Please tell me how to fix this error.

Thanking you in advance .


creating statusfile for 1 node...
checking input for internal consistency...
calling /usr/bin/cpp...
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:11:23: error: ffG43a1.itp: No such file 
or directory
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:19:19: error: spc.itp: No such file or 
directory
human_resistin_A43_mut_D43.top:29:20: error: ions.itp: No such file or 
directory


If cpp can't find these, you haven't sourced GMXRC properly.

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Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of atomtypes for dihedral (4 instead of 2 or 4)

2007-08-31 Thread Mark Abraham

fulya caglar wrote:
 
Hi!

Thanks for your helps!
Fulya


So what was the problem, please? I'd like to make an entry in our FAQ 
list so others can solve this problem quicker.


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Re: [gmx-users] Incorrect number of atomtypes for dihedral (4 instead of 2 or 4)

2007-08-31 Thread fulya caglar
I have not solved my problem exactly,yet.But now it is more clear for me now 
and I just want to thank you for your help.As soon as possible I will finish my 
simulations and I let you know what the proplem was.
  Fulya

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  fulya caglar wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Thanks for your helps!
 Fulya

So what was the problem, please? I'd like to make an entry in our FAQ 
list so others can solve this problem quicker.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Alpha-Helix Dipole

2007-08-31 Thread gtroiano

 Hi David,

 I tried to use the option -mutot in g_energy, but all I get is the component
dipoles. They match what I've got in the file Mtot.xvg from g_dipoles, which is
really high (for all the system: water+ polyala helix, fluctuates between 100
and 300 D), but in adip.xvg (the average) the value in each time is very low
(around 2.3 D). The index file contains only the standard options (protein,
SOL, backbone, etc..) and when I try to select backbone (e.g. in g_dipoles) it
gives the fatal error: The index group is not a set of whole molecules. Why
is the Mtot like this and what exactly does the average mean?
 Anyway, thanks for all the guidance, it helped a lot! I tried to make it
objective now and this is the last question I send you, for not wasting your
time! If I can't conclude anything, can you send me any reference, or some
exercises which I could compare some results and see if what I'm doing is right
or what to expect from the dipole calculation?  (I think that the structures are
ok for the QM, but just I wanted to confirm if that situation is the closest
that we have for the helix in water)

 Thank you very much (sorry if any of the questions seemed stupid!)
 Gustavo



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   Just one more thing, David. I read the manual, but I couldn't realize: is
 the
  average dipole, (at the top of the g_dipoles output) the overall dipole of
 the
  system? (also in the adip.xvg, plotted against time). Because all I want to
  know is whether the system has a low dipole moment (which in the case of
  polyala+h2o, the average is 2.3 D)
 

 depends on your index file. the total dipole is also stored in the
 energy file, so you can run g_energy to get it out, or g_dipoles -enx to
 compute dielectric constants etc.

   Gustavo
 
 
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   Hi David
 
   Thank you very much for the reply! So, which group, in the end, shall I
  select
  in g_dipoles to see the dipole? And how to use trjconv after editconf the
  way
  you told me? (the input/output of editconf is a .gro file and of trjconv
 is
  .trr/.xtc files) And whose group shall I select in the least
 squares/output
  prompts in trjconv -fit trans+rot?
 
   Thank you very much,
   Gustavo
 
 
  I would do both the helix backbone, and the entire helix, so that you
  can test whether the sidechains compensate for the net dipole or the
  other way around. You could also look at the net dipole of the water
  with resect to the helix.
 
  As for trjconv, please read the manual about aligning structures
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Re: [gmx-users] Correlation Matrix Calculation

2007-08-31 Thread Arneh Babakhani
Sorry for the confusion . I want the correlation.  So I can just use
g_covar to get the covar. matrix, and divide each term by what you stated,
to get the correlation matrix? (if I follow you correctly).

Thanks,

 Hi Arneh,

 You're not clear on what you want. Is it a covariance matrix or a
 correlation matrix. Correlation and covariance are different things.
 g_covar lets you write out a covariance matrix using the option
 -ascii. In case you want the correlation matrix (though IIRC Karplus
 also used the covariance matrix), you have to divide each element m_ij
 by sqrt(m_ii)*sqrt(m_jj).

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On 8/31/07, Arneh Babakhani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone briefly recommend a procedure for calculating the correlation
 matrix (not the diagonalized covariance matrix, as done by g_covar) of a
 specified group?

 In particular, I'm looking to calculate the covariance matrix, as
 specifed
 in the Karplus paper (Proteins: Vol 11:205-217, 1991), where each entry
 of
 the matrix is defined as the correlation between the i-th and j-th atom:

 c_ij = delta r_i delta r_j

 where delta r is the deviation of i from its average position, averaged
 over the ensemble.

 Or, is there a way to use g_covar and suppress the diagonalization step,
 so as to obtain only the translation correlation matrix??? (I couldn't
 find anything to this effect in the manual).

 Much thanks,

 Arneh

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Re: [gmx-users] Correlation Matrix Calculation

2007-08-31 Thread Arneh Babakhani
Yes, I have seen this, had trouble compiling it.  Does it matter what
version of gromacs you're trying to compile it with?

 Hi,


 On Friday, 31. August 2007 05:14, Arneh Babakhani wrote:
 Can anyone briefly recommend a procedure for calculating the correlation
 matrix (not the diagonalized covariance matrix, as done by g_covar) of a
 specified group?

 In particular, I'm looking to calculate the covariance matrix, as
 specifed
 in the Karplus paper (Proteins: Vol 11:205-217, 1991), where each entry
 of
 the matrix is defined as the correlation between the i-th and j-th atom:

 c_ij = delta r_i delta r_j

 where delta r is the deviation of i from its average position, averaged
 over the ensemble.

 Or, is there a way to use g_covar and suppress the diagonalization step,
 so as to obtain only the translation correlation matrix??? (I couldn't
 find anything to this effect in the manual).


 take a look at Generalized Correlation for Biomolecular Dynamics from
 Lange
 and Grubmueller:

 http://www.mpibpc.gwdg.de/groups/grubmueller/start/people/olange/gencorr.html


 Much thanks,

 Arneh

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Re: [gmx-users] what is the force function for proper dihedrals

2007-08-31 Thread Patrick Fuchs

Hi Chris,
I've been searching for this as well. You might get some clues in the 
following article, but I didn't have time to read it:
T. Schlick, A Recipe for Evaluating and Differentiating Cos phi 
Expressions,   J. Comp. Chem.,  10:951-956, May (1989)

I'm interested if you find any pointer to a book or paper on this issue.
Cheers,

Patrick

Chris Neale a écrit :

Hello,

The manual does a good job at explaining the potential energy function 
for all types of interactions. For bonded interactions the manual also 
describes the force function for every type except dihedrals. The 
Allan and Tildesley bool also lacks this information. It's one thing 
to know that the force is the negative gradient of the potential 
energy, but for proper dihedrals it is not trivial to determine this.


If anybody knows the force function for proper dihedrals then I would 
greatly appreciate a reply.


Thanks,
Chris.
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[gmx-users] Fullerene simulation

2007-08-31 Thread serdar durdagi
Dear all,
   
  Is anybody studied with fullerene MD simulation using gromacs before? (I 
searched in literature, unfortunately I couldn't find).
   
  Best Wishes,
   
   
  Serdar

   
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[gmx-users] g_bundle usage

2007-08-31 Thread jo hanna
Hi

The protein in my simulations has two distinct domains and some interdomain
motion is seen on the simualtion timescale. I was wanting to define a helix
in domain 1 and one in domain 2 and track their movement relative to each
other. For this I was going to use g_bundle. I have tried this but I am
doing something wrong as I get the error:
Fatal error: The size of one of your index groups is not a multiple of n
I have defined the groups in my index file:
helix 1
helix 2
and after entering:
g_bundle -s md1.tpr -f protein.xtc -n index.ndx -tu ns  (I have also tried
with -na 2)
I use these groups as input to the program and then get the error.
I think I may have misunderstood the documentation, can someone please
suggest how to perform this analysis correctly?!

Thanks
Jo
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[gmx-users] Measure contour area of bilayer undulation

2007-08-31 Thread Hwankyu Lee

Dear gmx-users,

This is not a question about Gromacs, but I wonder if I can hear 
suggestions from here. I would like to measure contour area of bilayer 
undulation.  If there is no undulation, area (area per lipid) can be 
easily calculated by dividing XY area by number of lipid.  But, in the 
lipid bilayer with undulation, how can contour area (ultimately, area 
per lipid) be calculated ?  If there are some suggestions about 
possibilities in Gromacs or other tools, it'd be really appreciated.

Thanks,

best,
Hwankyu.
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Re: [gmx-users] Measure contour area of bilayer undulation

2007-08-31 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

In principle you can calculate this from equations e.g. in Safran's  
book Statistical Thermodynamics of Surfaces, Interfaces, and  
Membranes.


However, when we worked with this a few years ago we ended up in the  
conclusion that for the properties we were interested in, the  
effective area/lipid measured in experiments was better  
approximated by the cell dimensions including fluctuations. YMMV,  
though!


Cheers,

Erik


On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Hwankyu Lee wrote:


Dear gmx-users,

This is not a question about Gromacs, but I wonder if I can hear  
suggestions from here. I would like to measure contour area of  
bilayer undulation.  If there is no undulation, area (area per  
lipid) can be easily calculated by dividing XY area by number of  
lipid.  But, in the lipid bilayer with undulation, how can contour  
area (ultimately, area per lipid) be calculated ?  If there are  
some suggestions about possibilities in Gromacs or other tools,  
it'd be really appreciated.

Thanks,

best,
Hwankyu.
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[gmx-users] Fwd: what is the force function for proper dihedrals

2007-08-31 Thread chris . neale
Haven't looked into the details yet, but this is worth noting for  
those interested. Thanks William.


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Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:15:25 -0400
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 Subject: what is the force function for proper dihedrals
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howdy,


i am guessing that you want a formula for the cartesian force on the
atoms involved in a 4-body bonded interaction that is parameterized by a
dihedral angle.  if so then all you have to do (of course) is to work
out a sort of nasty jacobian transforming the coordinates, but of course
it is kind of messy/cumbersome and easy to make a mistake.  the only
published place i know where they have the answer explicitly is in the
dl_poly manual, which you can find at
http://www.cse.scitech.ac.uk/ccg/software/DL_POLY/.  they work it out in
gory detail on page 18 of the manual (which is actually page 30 of the
pdf file).  i can't promise there are no typos there, but i think it is
quite likely correct.  i have explicitly checked their calculation for
valence angles, though this is considerably easier.  but at least this
would give you something to check against.  one warning in advance: the
dl_poly folks define vectors in the opposite convention from normal.
see in the figure that r_ij is the vector from i to j - whereas i would
have defined r_ij as the vector from j to i.


anyway, i hope this is helpful.  if this is what you wanted maybe you
could forward the info to the mailing list.  if not, sorry to cause you
any bother.


peace,


will noid


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