Re: [gmx-users] mass changes in free energy calculations

2008-06-20 Thread Qiang Li
Thanks for clearing the doubt.

Is that more easier to get equlibrium to use unchanged mass when doing LJ
turning on/off?
I ask this since I found the forwards and backwards mutation free energy are
more consistant if I do not change the mass. Accidentally?

LQ

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:26 AM, David Mobley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can change the mass if you like. Basically, the net free energy
> change associated with changing the mass should end up being zero so
> it will be irrelevant. The mass of course affects the dynamics and
> things like the velocities, but based on equipartition you can
> convince yourself that the free energy change will be zero.
>
> David
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM, friendli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am calculating FE using TI. I have a question about mutating existing
> > atoms with different mass.
> > for example, using ffG53a6 force field, in one case i need to mutate CH2
> to
> > CH3,
> > should I use
> > [ atoms ]
> > 17CH3  2ALA CB  6  0 15.035 CH2
>  0
> >14.027; qtot 1
> >
> > OR
> >
> > 17CH3  2ALA CB  6  0 15.035 CH2
>  0
> >15.035; qtot 1
> >
> > I notice from Prof. Alan Mark's online FE course, he mutates a H atom to
> a O
> > atom, but does not change its mass.
> > The line is :
> > 12HC1 PHE   HZ  6   0.11.008
> >   OA -0.54811.008
> >
> > Can somebody explain a bit why we should not change the mass accordingly?
> >
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > LQ
> >
> > I though I sent this email but why I can not see it. There may be
> something
> > wrong with my email software. so I send here again. sorry
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Re: [gmx-users] Low CPU usage multicore

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
When asking for free help, make it easy on those from whom you seek it.  
Pertinent information would include:


1. Gromacs version
2. MPI implementation you are using (OpenMPI, lam, etc.)
3. Hardware details


4. MPI host configuration
5. GROMACS command lines you're using.

Otherwise, we're left to assume that you've simply done something wrong, 
and that's certainly not useful to anyone.


Agreed.

Mark
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[gmx-users] [Fwd: Installation Doubt]

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham
Please put GROMACS-related correspondence on the list. That way multiple 
people can have a chance to reply, and the answer is archived for all to 
search.


There are instructions that pertain to the installation of a suitable 
FFTW here http://www.gromacs.org/content/view/23/33/ Please read them.


Mark

 Original Message 
Subject:Installation Doubt
Date:   Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:10:23 -0700 (PDT)
From:   abhijit ramachandran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi Mark,

I was going through the forums and saw your replies the most so decided
to ask you a general basic question, i am trying to install Gromac3.3
onto a Linux PC and it had a pre-req for FFTW installation so i
installed FFTW on it but when i give the ./configure command for
installing the Gromac it gives me an error stating that "Cannot to find
fftw3f library file" and so it doesnt continue with remaining
installation, so my question is have i installed FFTW properly and is
there any way i can check it, if yes then what am i doing wrong that it
gives me an error.

Please reply since i am just begining to use it.

Innconvinience caused is regretted.

Regards

Abhijit R

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Re: [gmx-users] Low CPU usage multicore

2008-06-20 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
When asking for free help, make it easy on those from whom you seek it.  
Pertinent information would include:


1. Gromacs version
2. MPI implementation you are using (OpenMPI, lam, etc.)
3. Hardware details

Otherwise, we're left to assume that you've simply done something wrong, 
and that's certainly not useful to anyone.


-Justin

ha salem wrote:

Dear Users
my multi-core cpus usage are low in parallel run,when I run on 1 cpu 
all of core have 90% usage but when I run on 2 nodes (every one has 1 
multicore cpu) the cpu usage is low

its about 2 month I cant solve this problem
thank you




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[gmx-users] Low CPU usage multicore

2008-06-20 Thread ha salem
Dear Users
my multi-core cpus usage are low in parallel run,when I run on 1 cpu all of 
core have 90% usage but when I run on 2 nodes (every one has 1 multicore cpu) 
the cpu usage is low
its about 2 month I cant solve this problem
thank you



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Re: [gmx-users] mdp files

2008-06-20 Thread Justin A. Lemkul

You have to make it with a text editor.

-Justin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Special thanks to Vitaly, Mark and Justin for there comments. I've
revisited the wiki site and read through chapter 5 of the manual. I'm
currently going through the tutorial with a standard protein. I run into a
problem when I use the command:

grompp -f em.mdp -c fws_b4em.pdb -p fws.top -o fws_em.tpr

The error states that the em.mdp file doesn't exists, but none of the
steps in the tutorial leading up to this command creates the em.mdp file.
I was just wondering what step in the process is the .mdp file created or
do I have to have that already created off to the side ready for the
grompp command?

Thanks again,

-John Landers
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[gmx-users] mdp files

2008-06-20 Thread jolander
Special thanks to Vitaly, Mark and Justin for there comments. I've
revisited the wiki site and read through chapter 5 of the manual. I'm
currently going through the tutorial with a standard protein. I run into a
problem when I use the command:

grompp -f em.mdp -c fws_b4em.pdb -p fws.top -o fws_em.tpr

The error states that the em.mdp file doesn't exists, but none of the
steps in the tutorial leading up to this command creates the em.mdp file.
I was just wondering what step in the process is the .mdp file created or
do I have to have that already created off to the side ready for the
grompp command?

Thanks again,

-John Landers
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[gmx-users] RE: msd vs. time plot for molecules

2008-06-20 Thread Vitaly Chaban
> Using g_msd on a group of atoms results in an msd vs. time plot which is
> the result of an average over all the atoms' motions.  I would like to 
> obtain the same plot, but for an average over the center of mass motions 
> of a group of molecules.  Using the -mol option results in a plot of the 
> diffusion coefficient for each individual molecule.  Do I need to use 
> the -mw option for each molecule seperately and then average them 
> together myself?  Thank you for any ideas.
It seems that because MSDs of separate atoms are mostly very close to those
of the center-of-mass GROMACS developers has made the latter case
default. Using the '-mol' of g_msd option should give
you a diffusion constant of the center-of-mass (besides that graph)...

I'm not sure, however. It's also a good idea to examine a programme
code. :)

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Re: [gmx-users] MPICH2 and parallel Gromacs errors

2008-06-20 Thread Art Poon

Hi Richard,

I don't know about Gromacs specifically, but our users have had more  
luck getting MPI functionality for our software on Mac clusters/multi- 
core computers with OpenMPI.


Cheers,
- Art.


On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Casey,Richard wrote:


Hello,

This issue appears to have been encountered by many people.  We've  
searched the discussion archives and tried every recommended  
solution but no luck.


We have MPICH2 v.1.0.7 installed on an Apple G5 cluster (64 CPU's).  
And installed Gromacs v.3.3.3 with --enable-mpi option.


Single CPU jobs run OK; parallel jobs always fail.  For parallel  
jobs we use:


grompp -v -np 2 -p topol.top (or other values for np for more cpu's)

We launch MPD with:

mpdboot -n 2 -f /common/mpich2/mpd.hosts

We run jobs with:

/common/mpich2/bin/mpiexec -l -n 2 \
/common/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -v -np 2 \
 -s /Users/richardcasey/topol.tpr \
 -g /Users/richardcasey/md.log \
 -e /Users/richardcasey/ener.edr \
 -o /Users/richardcasey/traj.trr \
 -x /Users/richardcasey/traj.xtc \
 -c /Users/richardcasey/confout.gro


The output always says:

---
1: Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 3.3.3
1: Source code file: init.c, line: 69
1:
1: Fatal error:
1: run input file /Users/richardcasey/topol.tpr was made for 2 nodes,
1: p0_29762:  p4_error: : -1
1:  while mdrun_mpi expected it to be for 1 nodes.
1: ---


We've tried everything (many variations on the above and  
recommendations from the discussion list) but for some reason  
mdrun_mpi insists that it use a single-cpu version of the topology  
file.  We've check environment variables and they appear to point to  
the right directories. /common is NFS mounted on all nodes.


Completely stumped - no idea what is wrong here.  Any suggestions?




Richard Casey

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[gmx-users] msd vs. time plot for molecules

2008-06-20 Thread Michael Skaug


Using g_msd on a group of atoms results in an msd vs. time plot which is 
the result of an average over all the atoms' motions.  I would like to 
obtain the same plot, but for an average over the center of mass motions 
of a group of molecules.  Using the -mol option results in a plot of the 
diffusion coefficient for each individual molecule.  Do I need to use 
the -mw option for each molecule seperately and then average them 
together myself?  Thank you for any ideas.


--Mike Skaug

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Re: [gmx-users] RE: modelling a new molecule in OPLS

2008-06-20 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Anandita,

Just to add my response on the pile (and do take the previous advice)
what you show here displays a problem of yours with respect to
molecular dynamics simulations. That naming should be consistent,
sure, if you know what you're doing you can sort of ignore warnings
like 'atom names don't match (ABC1 - 1ABC)'. But the warnings about
bond/angle/dihedral defaults and using zeroes. If one thinks to do
standard stuff and stumbles upon one of these, sure, we'll help, and
we did (check the archives). But if you're doing your own calculations
for a force field and then come up with this... Now working on a force
field, at least you should be natively aware that a bond definition
requires two atoms and a bond length (and possibly a force constant).
An angle is not created by simply listing three atoms. You need an
angle! Likewise for a dihedral. You should probably spend some (more)
time reading chapters 4 and 5 of the manual.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Vitaly Chaban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have built an all atom topology file for "chaps" as i have already
>> discussed in previous mails, with charges from Gaussian DFT. The current
>> problem is with the grompp.
> I think you should at least consult the existing examples of force
> fields.
>
> Also, everybody here will be very happy if you not send so lengthy messages to
> the list. There's no sense to cite all errors the programme displays.
>
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Re: [gmx-users] topology for c-alpha protein model

2008-06-20 Thread Diego Nolasco
After pdb2gmx of the whole structure, make an index file and them run
another pdb2gmx choosing the c-alpha group. I hope it helps.

2008/6/20, Lillian Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Dear Gromacs Users,
>
> I would like to generate a topology for a protein in which each
> residue is represented only by its C-alpha atom (a Go-type model).
> What would be the most straightforward way of creating this topology
> file?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Lillian
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[gmx-users] MPICH2 and parallel Gromacs errors

2008-06-20 Thread Casey,Richard
Hello,

This issue appears to have been encountered by many people.  We've searched the 
discussion archives and tried every recommended solution but no luck.

We have MPICH2 v.1.0.7 installed on an Apple G5 cluster (64 CPU's). And 
installed Gromacs v.3.3.3 with --enable-mpi option.

Single CPU jobs run OK; parallel jobs always fail.  For parallel jobs we use:

grompp -v -np 2 -p topol.top (or other values for np for more cpu's)

We launch MPD with:

mpdboot -n 2 -f /common/mpich2/mpd.hosts

We run jobs with:

/common/mpich2/bin/mpiexec -l -n 2 \
/common/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -v -np 2 \
  -s /Users/richardcasey/topol.tpr \
  -g /Users/richardcasey/md.log \
  -e /Users/richardcasey/ener.edr \
  -o /Users/richardcasey/traj.trr \
  -x /Users/richardcasey/traj.xtc \
  -c /Users/richardcasey/confout.gro


The output always says:

---
1: Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 3.3.3
1: Source code file: init.c, line: 69
1:
1: Fatal error:
1: run input file /Users/richardcasey/topol.tpr was made for 2 nodes,
1: p0_29762:  p4_error: : -1
1:  while mdrun_mpi expected it to be for 1 nodes.
1: ---


We've tried everything (many variations on the above and recommendations from 
the discussion list) but for some reason mdrun_mpi insists that it use a 
single-cpu version of the topology file.  We've check environment variables and 
they appear to point to the right directories. /common is NFS mounted on all 
nodes.

Completely stumped - no idea what is wrong here.  Any suggestions?




Richard Casey

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[gmx-users] topology for c-alpha protein model

2008-06-20 Thread Lillian Chong
Dear Gromacs Users,

I would like to generate a topology for a protein in which each
residue is represented only by its C-alpha atom (a Go-type model).
What would be the most straightforward way of creating this topology
file?

Thanks in advance,
Lillian
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[gmx-users] RE: modelling a new molecule in OPLS

2008-06-20 Thread Vitaly Chaban
> I have built an all atom topology file for "chaps" as i have already
> discussed in previous mails, with charges from Gaussian DFT. The current
> problem is with the grompp.
I think you should at least consult the existing examples of force
fields.

Also, everybody here will be very happy if you not send so lengthy messages to
the list. There's no sense to cite all errors the programme displays.

-- 
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Re: [gmx-users] modelling a new molecule in OPLS

2008-06-20 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
When asking for free help, it is often best to make life easy on those 
from whom you're requesting it :-)   I don't know if anyone on this list 
is going to take the time to hunt through hundreds of lines of your 
topology, identify the atom numbers involved in your errors, determine 
which atoms those numbers correspond to, and try to figure out what your 
problem is.


That said, there is some general advice that I will give.  If grompp 
cannot find default parameters for a given set of atoms (for any item - 
bonds, angles, dihedrals, etc.) it is because they are not present in 
the original force field.  That means you either made a mistake in 
defining atom types or the numbering of the topology, or you will have 
to come up with the parameters for that item yourself.


-Justin

ANINDITA GAYEN wrote:

I have built an all atom topology file for "chaps" as i have already
discussed in previous mails, with charges from Gaussian DFT. The current
problem is with the grompp.
The error results that:
processing topology...
Generated 342378 of the 342378 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 0.5
  



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[gmx-users] modelling a new molecule in OPLS

2008-06-20 Thread ANINDITA GAYEN
I have built an all atom topology file for "chaps" as i have already
discussed in previous mails, with charges from Gaussian DFT. The current
problem is with the grompp.
The error results that:
processing topology...
Generated 342378 of the 342378 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 0.5
Generated 342288 of the 342378 1-4 parameter combinations
WARNING 1 [file "now1opls.itp", line 317]:
  No default Bond types, using zeroes
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Re: [gmx-users] Carbon Nanotube Residue

2008-06-20 Thread Vitaly Chaban
> I'm new to gromacs and the past week or so I've been digging through the
> archives so that I can simulate a carbon nanotube. I've been able find
> coordinates for the carbon nanotube as well as the parameters for the
> force field. My question is:
> 
> Do I define the parameters in the force field file or can I do it in pdb
> file?
> 
> I'm asking because I'm unable to change the force field file, so if I
> could just define the carbon nano tube residue in the pdb file that would
> help me out a lot.
See also
http://www.gromacs.org/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_details/gid,100/Itemid,26/
 for reference
what the topology should like like.

For some time, I was working with the problem of simulating the CNT by means of
GROMACS, and I'll be glad to consult you if you have got any additional
questions.

Best,
Vitaly

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