[gmx-users]Simulated annealing

2008-10-27 Thread JMandumpal
  
Dear GROMACS users,

I have got a problem while running a simulated anealing simulations, using 
GROMACS 3.3.3 version, of pure water:

the task:

I want to cool the system (water- 500 molecules) from 360 K to 0K in 100ps time 
( fast cooling). For that I used the following script:

title= Water annealing simulation
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = md
; Start time and timestep in ps
dt   = 0.001; 1fs
nsteps   = 10  ; 1ps
; For exact run continuation or redoing part of a run
init_step  = 0
; number of steps for center of mass motion removal
nstcomm  = 1
; group(s) for center of mass motion removal
comm-grps= SOL
; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f)
nstxout  = 1 ; 10ps
nstvout  = 1 ; 10ps
nstfout  = 0
; Checkpointing helps you continue after crashes
nstcheckpoint= 100
; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file
nstlog   = 0
nstenergy= 1000 ; 1ps
; Output frequency and precision for xtc file
;nstxtcout= 0
;xtc-precision= 1000
; select multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written.
; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist  = 10
; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
ns_type  = grid
; Periodic boundary conditions:
pbc  = xyz
; nblist cut-off
rlist= 1.0
; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
; Method for doing electrostatics
coulombtype  = pme
rcoulomb = 1.0
ewald_rtol   = 1.0e-5  ; since erfc(sigma*rcutoff)=ewald_rtol
optimize_fft = yes
; Relative dielectric constant for the medium
epsilon_r= 1  ; for water
; Method for doing Van der Waals
vdw-type = cut-off
rvdw = 1.0
; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing   = 0.12 ; check for the range 0.1 to 0.15
; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
pme_order= 4
ewald_geometry   = 3d
epsilon_surface  = 0
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
; Temperature coupling
;Tcoupl   = berendsen
; Groups to couple separately
;tc-grps  = system
; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K)
;tau-t = 0.1
;ref-t= 360
; simulated anealing
annealing= single
annealing_npoints= 2
annealing_time   = 0   0
annealing_temp   = 360 0
; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
gen_vel  = yes
gen-temp = 360
gen-seed = 173529
; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints  = all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = shake
shake_tol= 0.0001
morse= no

  
---

Problem:

Having done the simulations, the output shows ( ener.edr , Temperature)  a high 
temperature value around 850K. Clearly I did something wrong in my parameter 
file. 

---
the temperature extracted after the simulations
---
s0 legend Temperature
0.00  376.058044
1.00  864.033020
2.00  873.607605
3.00  851.308838
4.00  847.223877
5.00  860.511841
6.00  813.547241
7.00  845.261658
8.00  872.090027
9.00  852.079468
   10.00  849.152466
   11.01  850.055237
   12.01  834.468323
   13.01  861.107300
   14.01  828.380493
   15.01  850.166809
   16.00  850.382019
   17.00  847.214478
   18.00  851.201538
   19.00  857.533691
   20.00  849.760071
   21.02  864.907715
   22.02  837.307495
   23.02  827.407593
   24.02  841.464111
   25.02  863.330688
   26.02  841.096069
   27.02  856.469910
   28.02  854.449768
   29.02  845.534973
   30.02  853.421448
   31.02  825.198059
   32.00  857.317566
   33.00  823.510925

34.00  
858.875122
   35.00  880.710266
   36.00  853.692749
   37.00  847.079468
   38.00  851.004822
   39.00  858.75
   40.00  872.787048
   41.04  843.033813
   42.04  874.984009
   43.04  845.272583
   44.04  822.993713
   45.04  863.116455
   46.04  865.640198
   47.04  873.489563
   48.04  849.170776
   49.04  861.631958
   50.04 

Re: [gmx-users]Simulated annealing

2008-10-27 Thread Jochen Hub
JMandumpal wrote:
   
 Dear GROMACS users,
 
 I have got a problem while running a simulated anealing simulations, using 
 GROMACS 3.3.3 version, of pure water:
 
 the task:
 
 I want to cool the system (water- 500 molecules) from 360 K to 0K in 100ps 
 time ( fast cooling). For that I used the following script:
 
 title= Water annealing simulation
 cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
 ; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
 integrator   = md
 ; Start time and timestep in ps
 dt   = 0.001; 1fs
 nsteps   = 10  ; 1ps
 ; For exact run continuation or redoing part of a run
 init_step  = 0
 ; number of steps for center of mass motion removal
 nstcomm  = 1
 ; group(s) for center of mass motion removal
 comm-grps= SOL
 ; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
 ; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f)
 nstxout  = 1 ; 10ps
 nstvout  = 1 ; 10ps
 nstfout  = 0
 ; Checkpointing helps you continue after crashes
 nstcheckpoint= 100
 ; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file
 nstlog   = 0
 nstenergy= 1000 ; 1ps
 ; Output frequency and precision for xtc file
 ;nstxtcout= 0
 ;xtc-precision= 1000
 ; select multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written.
 ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
 nstlist  = 10
 ; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
 ns_type  = grid
 ; Periodic boundary conditions:
 pbc  = xyz
 ; nblist cut-off
 rlist= 1.0
 ; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
 ; Method for doing electrostatics
 coulombtype  = pme
 rcoulomb = 1.0
 ewald_rtol   = 1.0e-5  ; since erfc(sigma*rcutoff)=ewald_rtol
 optimize_fft = yes
 ; Relative dielectric constant for the medium
 epsilon_r= 1  ; for water
 ; Method for doing Van der Waals
 vdw-type = cut-off
 rvdw = 1.0
 ; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
 fourierspacing   = 0.12 ; check for the range 0.1 to 0.15
 ; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
 pme_order= 4
 ewald_geometry   = 3d
 epsilon_surface  = 0
 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
 ; Temperature coupling
 ;Tcoupl   = berendsen
 ; Groups to couple separately
 ;tc-grps  = system
 ; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K)
 ;tau-t = 0.1
 ;ref-t= 360
 ; simulated anealing
 annealing= single
 annealing_npoints= 2
 annealing_time   = 0   0
^^^

I think this should be

annealing_time = 0 100

in your case, right?

Jochen

 annealing_temp   = 360 0
 ; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
 gen_vel  = yes
 gen-temp = 360
 gen-seed = 173529
 ; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
 constraints  = all-bonds
 constraint_algorithm = shake
 shake_tol= 0.0001
 morse= no
   
   
   ---
 
 Problem:
 
 Having done the simulations, the output shows ( ener.edr , Temperature)  a 
 high temperature value around 850K. Clearly I did something wrong in my 
 parameter file. 
 
 ---
 the temperature extracted after the simulations
 ---
 s0 legend Temperature
 0.00  376.058044
 1.00  864.033020
 2.00  873.607605
 3.00  851.308838
 4.00  847.223877
 5.00  860.511841
 6.00  813.547241
 7.00  845.261658
 8.00  872.090027
 9.00  852.079468
10.00  849.152466
11.01  850.055237
12.01  834.468323
13.01  861.107300
14.01  828.380493
15.01  850.166809
16.00  850.382019
17.00  847.214478
18.00  851.201538
19.00  857.533691
20.00  849.760071
21.02  864.907715
22.02  837.307495
23.02  827.407593
24.02  841.464111
25.02  863.330688
26.02  841.096069
27.02  856.469910
28.02  854.449768
29.02  845.534973
30.02  853.421448
31.02  825.198059
32.00  857.317566
33.00  823.510925
   
   34.00  
 858.875122
35.00  880.710266
36.00  853.692749
37.00  847.079468
38.00  851.004822
39.00 

Re: [gmx-users]Simulated annealing

2008-10-27 Thread Xavier Periole

On 27 Oct 2008 06:36:09 -
 JMandumpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Dear GROMACS users,


I have got a problem while running a simulated anealing simulations, using 
GROMACS 3.3.3 version, of pure water:


the task:

I want to cool the system (water- 500 molecules) from 360 K to 0K in 100ps 
time ( fast cooling). For that I used the following script:


title= Water annealing simulation
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = md
; Start time and timestep in ps
dt   = 0.001; 1fs
nsteps   = 10  ; 1ps
; For exact run continuation or redoing part of a run
init_step  = 0
; number of steps for center of mass motion removal
nstcomm  = 1
; group(s) for center of mass motion removal
comm-grps= SOL
; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f)
nstxout  = 1 ; 10ps
nstvout  = 1 ; 10ps
nstfout  = 0
; Checkpointing helps you continue after crashes
nstcheckpoint= 100
; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file
nstlog   = 0
nstenergy= 1000 ; 1ps
; Output frequency and precision for xtc file
;nstxtcout= 0
;xtc-precision= 1000
; select multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written.
; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist  = 10
; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
ns_type  = grid
; Periodic boundary conditions:
pbc  = xyz
; nblist cut-off
rlist= 1.0
; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
; Method for doing electrostatics
coulombtype  = pme
rcoulomb = 1.0
ewald_rtol   = 1.0e-5  ; since erfc(sigma*rcutoff)=ewald_rtol
optimize_fft = yes
; Relative dielectric constant for the medium
epsilon_r= 1  ; for water
; Method for doing Van der Waals
vdw-type = cut-off
rvdw = 1.0
; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing   = 0.12 ; check for the range 0.1 to 0.15
; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
pme_order= 4
ewald_geometry   = 3d
epsilon_surface  = 0
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS

in what follows you have commented out the temperature coupling details.
I have never used SA but this for sure will not help the program controling
the temperature! Put these back on should help! :))

; Temperature coupling
;Tcoupl   = berendsen
; Groups to couple separately
;tc-grps  = system
; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K)
;tau-t = 0.1
;ref-t= 360
; simulated anealing
annealing= single
annealing_npoints= 2
annealing_time   = 0   0
annealing_temp   = 360 0
; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
gen_vel  = yes
gen-temp = 360
gen-seed = 173529
; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints  = all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = shake
shake_tol= 0.0001
morse= no
  
  
---


Problem:

Having done the simulations, the output shows ( ener.edr , Temperature)  a 
high temperature value around 850K. Clearly I did something wrong in my 
parameter file. 


---
the temperature extracted after the simulations
---
s0 legend Temperature
   0.00  376.058044
   1.00  864.033020
   2.00  873.607605
   3.00  851.308838
   4.00  847.223877
   5.00  860.511841
   6.00  813.547241
   7.00  845.261658
   8.00  872.090027
   9.00  852.079468
  10.00  849.152466
  11.01  850.055237
  12.01  834.468323
  13.01  861.107300
  14.01  828.380493
  15.01  850.166809
  16.00  850.382019
  17.00  847.214478
  18.00  851.201538
  19.00  857.533691
  20.00  849.760071
  21.02  864.907715
  22.02  837.307495
  23.02  827.407593
  24.02  841.464111
  25.02  863.330688
  26.02  841.096069
  27.02  856.469910
  28.02  854.449768
  29.02  845.534973
  30.02  853.421448
  31.02  825.198059
  32.00  857.317566
  33.00  823.510925
  
34.00 
858.875122

  35.00  880.710266
  36.00  853.692749
  37.00  847.079468
  38.00  851.004822
  39.00  858.75
  40.00  872.787048
  

Re: [gmx-users] mdrun doesn't run in version 4.0 on sgi server

2008-10-27 Thread Martin Höfling
Am Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2008 schrieb Lee Soin:
 Everything works fine by setting NOASSEMBLYLOOPS. Thanks!

 2008/10/26 Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Lee Soin wrote:
  Single CPU run. These are the last lines of the log file:
 
   Configuring nonbonded kernels...
 
  Testing ia64 CPU family...Unknown Itanium
  You might want to test the speed without assembly kernels
  by setting the NOASSEMBLYLOOPS environment variable.
 
  Try that... My guess is that the ia64 kernel isn't working on your
  machine, for some unknown reason.

Well, I assume that it runs on an Itanium Montecito cores - here we have the 
same issue. AFAIR there was a discussion in February on the list that this 
will not be fixed so soon. Anyways - intel fortran compilers on itanium 
probably will give you a pretty good performance compared to assembly 
nb-kernels.

Best
Martin


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[gmx-users] table_bonded.xvg

2008-10-27 Thread A.Rzepiela

Hi,

When I type :

mdrun  -tableb bond_b0.xvg -v

I get following message:

 Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0
Source code file: futil.c, line: 527

Fatal error:
Library file bond_b0_b0.xvg not found in current dir nor in default 
directories.

(You can set the directories to search with the GMXLIB path variable)
---

Thats what confused me


when I type mdrun  -tableb
It reads table_b0.xvg

Greetings

Andrzej
 
 

Hi,

According to me it does not.
I never change the default names.
But with the default names the table file name option is table.xvg
and for a tabulated bond table number 0, it correctly opens table_b0.xvg

Berk




From: A.Rzepiela at rug.nl
To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:45:53 +0200
Subject: [gmx-users] table_bonded.xvg

Dear Users

In gromacs 4.0, in file force.c  in function make_bonded_tables line 
(1007)
  sprintf(tabfn + strlen(basefn)  - strlen(ftp2ext(efXVG)) - 
1,_%s%d.%s, tabext, i, ftp2ext(efXVG));


produces table_bonded_bonded.xvg  instead of  table_bonded.xvg

Greetings

Andrzej Rzepiela
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[gmx-users] splitting a trajectory according to atoms using trjconv

2008-10-27 Thread Inon Sharony


 Hi,

I read GROMACS bugzilla report of bug 107
(http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107)[1]  and have to
admit that I have no experience using trjconv.

I really just need a push in the right direction -- I can't seem to
find any decent explanation on how to use trjconv for this purpose
anywhere on the net.

What I'm trying to do is take a trajectory file I generated, and
perform a trajectory analysis of two specific atoms in the molecule.
Since g_traj only takes one index group, this is a problem. In
particular, I want to automate the process and use non-interactive
command-line calls.

I think I should split the entire-molecule's-trajectory so that I
have a separate trajectory file for each atom I would like to look at,
and then serially run g_traj for each atom-trajectory.

How do I use trjconv to split one trajectory file into a few,
according to index groups or atoms?

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Re: [gmx-users] splitting a trajectory according to atoms using trjconv

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Inon Sharony wrote:


 Hi,

I read GROMACS bugzilla report of bug 107
(http://bugzilla.gromacs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107)[1]  and have to
admit that I have no experience using trjconv.

I really just need a push in the right direction -- I can't seem to
find any decent explanation on how to use trjconv for this purpose
anywhere on the net.

What I'm trying to do is take a trajectory file I generated, and
perform a trajectory analysis of two specific atoms in the molecule.
Since g_traj only takes one index group, this is a problem. In
particular, I want to automate the process and use non-interactive
command-line calls.



Have a look at this:

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Making_Commands_Non-Interactive


I think I should split the entire-molecule's-trajectory so that I
have a separate trajectory file for each atom I would like to look at,
and then serially run g_traj for each atom-trajectory.

How do I use trjconv to split one trajectory file into a few,
according to index groups or atoms?



Just make the index groups you wish, and pass them to trjconv with -n.

-Justin


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[gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Peyman Yamin
Dear GMX users,

I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the structure 
with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from prodrg and try to 
add the Na manually at the right place by removing the corresponding O. I use 
GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have a problem:


* In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with NA+ 
and set the mass and charge. 
DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] - 
The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge. 
should I put charge +1 ?

* which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I need 
LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp. (NA+ OA) 
but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What should I insert 
manually in top file at all? 

Thanks in advance for the time,
I've been away for some time from GMX and might sound 

Cheers,
Peyman 


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Re: [gmx-users] mdrun doesn't run in version 4.0 on sgi server

2008-10-27 Thread Mark Abraham

Carsten Kutzner wrote:

Hi,

Mark Abraham wrote:

Lee Soin wrote:

By invoking uname -a:
Linux sgi4700 2.6.16.46-0.12-default #1 SMP Thu May 17 14:00:09 UTC
2007 ia64 ia64 ia64 GNU/Linux
 
I don't know any other command to retrieve system information.

Hmm, that looks like an SGI Altix 4700. IA64 kernels work on those
machines. 

Well, not exactly.


Ah, oops. I was thinking of the Altix 3700 series, which predates 
Montecito. My bad.



They work in combination with Gromacs version = 3.3.x,
but at least I have never managed to get them working with this year's
CVS Gromacs or Gromacs 4.x - see also

http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-developers/2008-February/002405.html

The strange thing is that these inner loops have not changed since 3.3.x,
so the problem might be somewhere else. But actually the Fortran loops
have a quite decent performance on that machine compared to assembly: In
a single-CPU test I did with gmx 3.3 they were just about 10% slower.


Good to know. Lee should definitely compare performance when using 
configure with and without --enable-fortran (and using 
--disable-cpu-optimization to avoid needing to set the environment 
variable).


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Peyman Yamin wrote:

Dear GMX users,

I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the structure 
with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from prodrg and try to 
add the Na manually at the right place by removing the corresponding O. I use 
GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have a problem:




Are you trying to replace the O in DPPG with Na+?  Or are you simply trying to 
add ions to the surrounding solvent (water)?  If you just need ions in the 
solvent, use genion; you don't have to do it manually.




* In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with NA+ 
and set the mass and charge. 
DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] - 
The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge. 
should I put charge +1 ?




Again, I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish.  If you replace one of 
these oxygen atoms, you will likely not have an integer charge within the DPPG 
molecule itself.


* which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I need 
LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp. (NA+ OA) 
but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What should I insert 
manually in top file at all? 



Simply #include ffG43a1.itp at the top of your .top file; it will include 
nonbonded and bonded parameters for all the atoms in the system.


-Justin


Thanks in advance for the time,
I've been away for some time from GMX and might sound 


Cheers,
Peyman 





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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Mark Abraham

Peyman Yamin wrote:

Dear GMX users,

I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the structure 
with the Na replaced with O. 


That doesn't make sense to me.

I get a .top with this from prodrg and try to 
add the Na manually at the right place by removing the corresponding O. I use 
GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have a problem:



* In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with NA+ 
and set the mass and charge. 
DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] - 
The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge. 
should I put charge +1 ?


* which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I need 
LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp. (NA+ OA) 
but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What should I insert 
manually in top file at all? 


Sodium is not going to form any bond. It's a labile ion, so needs its 
own [ molecule ] section. The easiest approach is to construct a 
topology for the anion, and then use genion to add suitable amounts of 
Na+ afterwards. Check out some tutorial material for the approach here.


Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Kukol, Andreas
Use the Gromacs program genion for that purpose. This replaces water molecules 
by the ions you specify. You may need to change the topology afterwards 
manually. Make sure, you put an #include ions.ipt near the top of the 
.top-file, this contains the force field parameters for ions.

Best wishes
Andreas

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 Dear GMX users,

 I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
 structure
 with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from prodrg and try to
 add the Na manually at the right place by removing the corresponding O. I
 use
 GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have a problem:


 * In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with
 NA+
 and set the mass and charge.
 DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
 The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
 should I put charge +1 ?

 * which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I
 need
 LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp. (NA+ OA)
 but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What should I insert
 manually in top file at all?

 Thanks in advance for the time,
 I've been away for some time from GMX and might sound

 Cheers,
 Peyman


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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Peyman Yamin
Thanks a lot for the replies,

I replace the O in DPPG because I thought it's practical to get the topology 
of the quasi-DPPG (which has no charge cause the O is connected to the P) 
from prodrg, and then delete the O and replace it with Na and delete the bond 
of P with it and try to tell gromacs it's just a non-bonded Na around the 
P! since it's always around the P replacing the O which was bond to P made 
sense to me from the coordinates (distance to P, etc.) point of view. Am I 
doing strange things??

I'm not sure if I have to use genion since my zwitterionic DPPG has always its 
Na+ beside its O-.


On Monday 27 October 2008 14:03, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
 Peyman Yamin wrote:
  Dear GMX users,
 
  I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
  structure with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from prodrg
  and try to add the Na manually at the right place by removing the
  corresponding O. I use GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have
  a problem:

 Are you trying to replace the O in DPPG with Na+?  Or are you simply trying
 to add ions to the surrounding solvent (water)?  If you just need ions in
 the solvent, use genion; you don't have to do it manually.

  * In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with
  NA+ and set the mass and charge.
  DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
  The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
  should I put charge +1 ?

 Again, I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish.  If you replace
 one of these oxygen atoms, you will likely not have an integer charge
 within the DPPG molecule itself.

I thought since O on P is gone it will be -1 charged, so a +1 Na will balance 
it, won't it??


  * which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I
  need LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp.
  (NA+ OA) but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What
  should I insert manually in top file at all?

 Simply #include ffG43a1.itp at the top of your .top file; it will include
 nonbonded and bonded parameters for all the atoms in the system.

Well I do include it. So shouldn't I worry about the nonbonding params and 
stuff? like those in topology file? Actually an existential question for me 
always is that if everything goes OK by adding the FF itp, then why does 
prodrg give me all the params for bonds, dihedrals, angles and etc.??

So, genion or manually replace? and how please...I mean, I don't want to pass 
my task to others, but well, a bit of more detailed help would enlight me a 
great deal ;)

Cheers,
Peyman

APPENDIX!

* This is the top for the DPPG with the unwanted 
O --- say O number 24. **

The question is if I simply change that to Na (of course in pdb as well) what 
changes should I make in other switches? I see non of non-bonding context!
(pairs?)

[ moleculetype ]
; Name nrexcl
DRG  3

[ atoms ]
;   nr  type  resnr resid  atom  cgnr   charge mass
 1   CH3 1  DRG CBL 1   -0.019  15.0350   
 2   CH2 1  DRG CBK 10.006  14.0270   
 3   CH2 1  DRG CBJ 10.006  14.0270   
 4   CH2 1  DRG CBI 10.007  14.0270   
 5   CH2 1  DRG CBH 20.000  14.0270   
 6   CH2 1  DRG CBG 30.000  14.0270   
 7   CH2 1  DRG CBF 40.000  14.0270   
 8   CH2 1  DRG CBE 50.000  14.0270   
 9   CH2 1  DRG CBD 60.000  14.0270   
10   CH2 1  DRG CBC 70.000  14.0270   
11   CH2 1  DRG CBB 80.000  14.0270   
12   CH2 1  DRG CBA 90.000  14.0270   
13   CH2 1  DRG CAZ100.039  14.0270   
14   CH2 1  DRG CAY100.039  14.0270   
15   CH2 1  DRG CAX100.039  14.0270   
16 C 1  DRG CAV100.232  12.0110   
17 O 1  DRG OAW10   -0.377  15.9994   
18OA 1  DRG OAU10   -0.108  15.9994   
19   CH1 1  DRG CAT100.136  13.0190   
20   CH2 1  DRG CBM110.054  14.0270   
21OA 1  DRG OBN11   -0.094  15.9994   
22 P 1  DRG PBO110.954  30.9738   
23OA 1  DRG OBP11   -0.410  15.9994   
24OA 1  DRG OBQ11   -0.410  15.9994   
25OA 1  DRG OBR11   -0.094  15.9994   
26   CH2 1  DRG CBS120.034  14.0270   
27   CH1 1  DRG CBT120.070  13.0190   
28OA 1  DRG OBW12   -0.117  15.9994   
29 H 1  DRG HCQ120.013   1.0080   
30   CH2 1  DRG CBU130.069  14.0270   
31OA 1  DRG OBV13   -0.086  15.9994   
32 

Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Peyman Yamin
On Monday 27 October 2008 14:08, Mark Abraham wrote:
 Peyman Yamin wrote:
  Dear GMX users,
 
  I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
  structure with the Na replaced with O.

 That doesn't make sense to me.

  I get a .top with this from prodrg and try to
  add the Na manually at the right place by removing the corresponding O. I
  use GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have a problem:
 
 
  * In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with
  NA+ and set the mass and charge.
  DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
  The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
  should I put charge +1 ?
 
  * which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I
  need LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp.
  (NA+ OA) but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What
  should I insert manually in top file at all?

 Sodium is not going to form any bond. It's a labile ion, so needs its
 own [ molecule ] section. The easiest approach is to construct a
 topology for the anion, and then use genion to add suitable amounts of
 Na+ afterwards. Check out some tutorial material for the approach here.

Right, but can't I have them all included in a single top??
What shall I put into the topology of the cation then? I have a single DPPG 
molecule in water/octanol. So I thought I might just embed the Na inside the 
DPPG top. in the end DPPG HAS a Na actually, though non-bonded!

If I'm way away from making sense then would be happy to know the logical way. 
about genion I thought it's mainly for adding the ions to the solvent, but I 
should have exactly one Na. 

Be well,
Peyman



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RE: [gmx-users] HYP GROMOS

2008-10-27 Thread Abil Aliev

Hello,

Thank you for your response.

The topology file was propared using pdb2gmx. I changed one of the improper 
dihedral angles (CG-CD-CB-O) for HYP to (CG-CD-O-CB) and CG of HYP stopped 
inverting. 

There seems to be much less of proper dihedrals in the topology file on using 
pdb2gmx for GROMOS force fields compared to OPLS-AA or AMBER. For example, for 
the OPLS-AA there are 3 dihedrals in the topology around the N-CA bond:

C(i-1) - N - Ca - Ha
C(i-1) - N - Ca - C
C(i-1) - N - Ca - Cb

Following the same logic, there should be two dihedrals in the GROMOS topology 
file, but there is only one (C(i-1) - N - Ca - C). Any special reason for this?

Abil


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 gamma-OH and the alpha-CO groups are trans to each other in the starting 
 structure. However, over the course of MD the trans-configuration of 
 these two substituents changes into a cis-configuration, which was not 
 supposed to happen. Is there any way to avoid such isomerisation?
 
 Dihedral potentials, maybe you need to add an improper...
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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Peyman Yamin
On Monday 27 October 2008 14:03, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

Actually I'm doing a funny mistake telling I should replace an O with an Na! 
(probably because of high adrenaline level in my blood for the deadline is 
near!) I should just put one Na beside the O I have! I simply have a PO4 
where one O has no H and thus is negative. an Na+ should accompany this O.


 Peyman Yamin wrote:
  Dear GMX users,
 
  I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
  structure with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from prodrg
  and try to add the Na manually at the right place by removing the
  corresponding O. I use GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have
  a problem:

 Are you trying to replace the O in DPPG with Na+?  Or are you simply trying
 to add ions to the surrounding solvent (water)?  If you just need ions in
 the solvent, use genion; you don't have to do it manually.

  * In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with
  NA+ and set the mass and charge.
  DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
  The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
  should I put charge +1 ?

 Again, I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish.  If you replace
 one of these oxygen atoms, you will likely not have an integer charge
 within the DPPG molecule itself.

  * which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I
  need LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp.
  (NA+ OA) but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What
  should I insert manually in top file at all?

 Simply #include ffG43a1.itp at the top of your .top file; it will include
 nonbonded and bonded parameters for all the atoms in the system.

 -Justin

  Thanks in advance for the time,
  I've been away for some time from GMX and might sound
 
  Cheers,
  Peyman

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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Peyman Yamin wrote:

On Monday 27 October 2008 14:03, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

Actually I'm doing a funny mistake telling I should replace an O with an Na! 
(probably because of high adrenaline level in my blood for the deadline is 
near!) I should just put one Na beside the O I have! I simply have a PO4 
where one O has no H and thus is negative. an Na+ should accompany this O.




Well that makes more sense.  I'm assuming you have a DPPG bilayer with solvent? 
 Or are you simulating a single DPPG in vacuo?  If it's a bilayer in solution, 
just use genion; you can even specify exactly how many Na+ you want using -np.


If the topology organization is confusing you, refer to Chapter 5 of the manual. 
 If you make a .top for DPPG, you can specify:


[ molecules ]
DPPGx
NA+ 1 (or whatever)

after including the appropriate force field call and ions.itp; the parameters 
for all atom types are taken from these files.


-Justin




Peyman Yamin wrote:

Dear GMX users,

I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
structure with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from prodrg
and try to add the Na manually at the right place by removing the
corresponding O. I use GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have
a problem:

Are you trying to replace the O in DPPG with Na+?  Or are you simply trying
to add ions to the surrounding solvent (water)?  If you just need ions in
the solvent, use genion; you don't have to do it manually.


* In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with
NA+ and set the mass and charge.
DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
should I put charge +1 ?

Again, I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish.  If you replace
one of these oxygen atoms, you will likely not have an integer charge
within the DPPG molecule itself.


* which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I
need LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp.
(NA+ OA) but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What
should I insert manually in top file at all?

Simply #include ffG43a1.itp at the top of your .top file; it will include
nonbonded and bonded parameters for all the atoms in the system.

-Justin


Thanks in advance for the time,
I've been away for some time from GMX and might sound

Cheers,
Peyman




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Department of Biochemistry
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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Peyman Yamin wrote:

On Monday 27 October 2008 14:08, Mark Abraham wrote:

Peyman Yamin wrote:

Dear GMX users,

I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
structure with the Na replaced with O.

That doesn't make sense to me.


I get a .top with this from prodrg and try to
add the Na manually at the right place by removing the corresponding O. I
use GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I have a problem:


* In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA with
NA+ and set the mass and charge.
DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
should I put charge +1 ?

* which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding. I
need LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from ffG43a1nb.itp.
(NA+ OA) but I'm not sure where should I put it in the top file. What
should I insert manually in top file at all?

Sodium is not going to form any bond. It's a labile ion, so needs its
own [ molecule ] section. The easiest approach is to construct a
topology for the anion, and then use genion to add suitable amounts of
Na+ afterwards. Check out some tutorial material for the approach here.


Right, but can't I have them all included in a single top??
What shall I put into the topology of the cation then? I have a single DPPG 
molecule in water/octanol. So I thought I might just embed the Na inside the 
DPPG top. in the end DPPG HAS a Na actually, though non-bonded!




Alright, now I understand.  So you will have several different topologies to 
deal with.  You don't need to merge DPPG/Na+ into one!  You have separate 
topologies for water and octanol, too, don't you?  You could use the topology 
from PRODRG as dppg.itp, for example, and construct a .top that has the following:


#include ffG43a1.itp
#include dppg.itp
#include spc.itp
#include octanol.itp
#include ions.itp

[ molecules ]
DPPGx
SOL y
OCT z
NA+ 1

All bonded and non-bonded parameters will then be read from the appropriate 
force field files, without merging anything!


-Justin

If I'm way away from making sense then would be happy to know the logical way. 
about genion I thought it's mainly for adding the ions to the solvent, but I 
should have exactly one Na. 


Be well,
Peyman



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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Peyman Yamin
On Monday 27 October 2008 15:07, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
 Peyman Yamin wrote:
  On Monday 27 October 2008 14:03, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
 
  Actually I'm doing a funny mistake telling I should replace an O with an
  Na! (probably because of high adrenaline level in my blood for the
  deadline is near!) I should just put one Na beside the O I have! I simply
  have a PO4 where one O has no H and thus is negative. an Na+ should
  accompany this O.

 Well that makes more sense.  I'm assuming you have a DPPG bilayer with
 solvent? Or are you simulating a single DPPG in vacuo?  If it's a bilayer
 in solution, just use genion; you can even specify exactly how many Na+ you
 want using -np.

 If the topology organization is confusing you, refer to Chapter 5 of the
 manual. If you make a .top for DPPG, you can specify:

 [ molecules ]
 DPPG  x
 NA+   1 (or whatever)

 after including the appropriate force field call and ions.itp; the
 parameters for all atom types are taken from these files.

Well this looks great! 
I simulate one single DPPG in solvent. and you know, this Na+ is not in 
solvent but a part of DPPG. So you mean I just make a DPPG with an O which 
has no H so is minus and then use genion to add Na? will it place the Na 
aroung O hopefully? I think if I put no H arounf O the prodrg will force me 
to have it! so I should delete it and replace it with Na? or I should never 
use the word replace at all???

Thanks again ;)
Peyman


 -Justin

  Peyman Yamin wrote:
  Dear GMX users,
 
  I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
  structure with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from
  prodrg and try to add the Na manually at the right place by removing
  the corresponding O. I use GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I
  have a problem:
 
  Are you trying to replace the O in DPPG with Na+?  Or are you simply
  trying to add ions to the surrounding solvent (water)?  If you just need
  ions in the solvent, use genion; you don't have to do it manually.
 
  * In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA
  with NA+ and set the mass and charge.
  DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
  The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
  should I put charge +1 ?
 
  Again, I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish.  If you
  replace one of these oxygen atoms, you will likely not have an integer
  charge within the DPPG molecule itself.
 
  * which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding.
  I need LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from
  ffG43a1nb.itp. (NA+ OA) but I'm not sure where should I put it in the
  top file. What should I insert manually in top file at all?
 
  Simply #include ffG43a1.itp at the top of your .top file; it will
  include nonbonded and bonded parameters for all the atoms in the system.
 
  -Justin
 
  Thanks in advance for the time,
  I've been away for some time from GMX and might sound
 
  Cheers,
  Peyman

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Re: [gmx-users] Adding Na ions to DPPG

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Peyman Yamin wrote:

On Monday 27 October 2008 15:07, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

Peyman Yamin wrote:

On Monday 27 October 2008 14:03, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

Actually I'm doing a funny mistake telling I should replace an O with an
Na! (probably because of high adrenaline level in my blood for the
deadline is near!) I should just put one Na beside the O I have! I simply
have a PO4 where one O has no H and thus is negative. an Na+ should
accompany this O.

Well that makes more sense.  I'm assuming you have a DPPG bilayer with
solvent? Or are you simulating a single DPPG in vacuo?  If it's a bilayer
in solution, just use genion; you can even specify exactly how many Na+ you
want using -np.

If the topology organization is confusing you, refer to Chapter 5 of the
manual. If you make a .top for DPPG, you can specify:

[ molecules ]
DPPGx
NA+ 1 (or whatever)

after including the appropriate force field call and ions.itp; the
parameters for all atom types are taken from these files.


Well this looks great! 
I simulate one single DPPG in solvent. and you know, this Na+ is not in 
solvent but a part of DPPG. So you mean I just make a DPPG with an O which 
has no H so is minus and then use genion to add Na? will it place the Na 
aroung O hopefully? I think if I put no H arounf O the prodrg will force me 
to have it! so I should delete it and replace it with Na? or I should never 
use the word replace at all???




Well, the Na+ may be associated with DPPG electrostatically, but they are still 
distinct chemical entities.  You can have a DPPG that has a net -1 charge; 
certainly all chemical species are not net neutral!  Indeed, genion will place 
Na+ in whatever solvent you choose, but may not necessarily be bound to DPPG. 
Some simulation may show the association, however.


And no, don't replace any part of your DPPG.  Because then you don't really have 
DPPG any more do you?


-Justin


Thanks again ;)
Peyman


-Justin


Peyman Yamin wrote:

Dear GMX users,

I want to add sodium ions (Na+) to a phospholipid (DPPG) I have the
structure with the Na replaced with O. I get a .top with this from
prodrg and try to add the Na manually at the right place by removing
the corresponding O. I use GROMOS 96.1 forcefield. GMX version 3.3.1. I
have a problem:

Are you trying to replace the O in DPPG with Na+?  Or are you simply
trying to add ions to the surrounding solvent (water)?  If you just need
ions in the solvent, use genion; you don't have to do it manually.


* In .top file, as far as I can understand, I should just replace OA
with NA+ and set the mass and charge.
DPPG has a centre:  [ O-P(O)=O ] -
The Na+ should be around this with +1 charge.
should I put charge +1 ?

Again, I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish.  If you
replace one of these oxygen atoms, you will likely not have an integer
charge within the DPPG molecule itself.


* which parameters should I place in the top as the Na+ is not bonding.
I need LJ and Coulomb params. I have C6 and C12 them from
ffG43a1nb.itp. (NA+ OA) but I'm not sure where should I put it in the
top file. What should I insert manually in top file at all?

Simply #include ffG43a1.itp at the top of your .top file; it will
include nonbonded and bonded parameters for all the atoms in the system.

-Justin


Thanks in advance for the time,
I've been away for some time from GMX and might sound

Cheers,
Peyman




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[gmx-users] trjcat

2008-10-27 Thread rams rams
Dear users,

I have nearly 2000 xtc files to concatenate. If I type them all at the
command prompt (or by using a small script) they are stiched well. But, If I
stich the first 1000 and the next 1000 separately and then if I try to stich
these two together I could not stich them properlty. Is there any way to
stich the group of xtc files together?

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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rams rams wrote:

Dear users,

I have nearly 2000 xtc files to concatenate. If I type them all at the 
command prompt (or by using a small script) they are stiched well. But, 
If I stich the first 1000 and the next 1000 separately and then if I try 
to stich these two together I could not stich them properlty. Is there 
any way to stich the group of xtc files together?




Can you show the actual command lines you're using to do this?

-Justin


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[gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Hi all,

I defined my residues for Polystyrene (first, last and inner monomers), with
the coresponding bonds, angles, dihedrals and impropers, including also the
conectivities (as + and - atoms of the next or previous residue). Pdb2gmx
runs without error or warning, but it counts less dihedrals then I would
expect. I did run the same for dimer and trimer. For dimer is ok, for trimer
starts to count 1 dihedral less, and for the chain with 80 monomers
corespondingly 78 dihedrals less, which means that the error should be in
the inner residue. I checked many times, but the dihedral which is missing
in the .top file is defined in the .rtp. So I have really no clue what is
wrong. I runned pdb2gmx also in debug mode, but the log file seem ok to me.

Please give me a good idea :o)

Thanks in advance.
Andrea
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Andrea Muntean wrote:

Hi all,
 
I defined my residues for Polystyrene (first, last and inner monomers), 
with the coresponding bonds, angles, dihedrals and impropers, including 
also the conectivities (as + and - atoms of the next or previous 
residue). Pdb2gmx runs without error or warning, but it counts less 
dihedrals then I would expect. I did run the same for dimer and trimer. 
For dimer is ok, for trimer starts to count 1 dihedral less, and for the 
chain with 80 monomers corespondingly 78 dihedrals less, which means 
that the error should be in the inner residue. I checked many times, but 
the dihedral which is missing in the .top file is defined in the .rtp. 
So I have really no clue what is wrong. I runned pdb2gmx also in debug 
mode, but the log file seem ok to me.
 
Please give me a good idea :o)
 


Without seeing the .rtp entry and the relevant portion of the resulting .top, 
it's hard to say.  Can you post those pieces of information?


-Justin


Thanks in advance.
Andrea




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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Hi Justin,

here are the relevant parts, as pdf files. I miss a dihedral between the
atoms 2, 9, 10 and 17, which corresponds to the
-CH   CH2   CH   +CH2 dihedral in the PS residue in the RTP entry.

For the trimer I should have 26 dihedrals, but in the TOP file I get only 25
(I mean only the proper dihedrals, the impropers are OK).

Thanks for your help.

Andrea


RTP.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


TrimerTOP.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Andrea Muntean wrote:

Hi Justin,
 
here are the relevant parts, as pdf files. I miss a dihedral between the 
atoms 2, 9, 10 and 17, which corresponds to the

-CH   CH2   CH   +CH2 dihedral in the PS residue in the RTP entry.
 


Please send them as plain text to the list so everyone can see them without 
having to download the files (and so they can be archived for reference).


-Justin

For the trimer I should have 26 dihedrals, but in the TOP file I get 
only 25 (I mean only the proper dihedrals, the impropers are OK).
 
Thanks for your help.
 
Andrea
 

 


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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Well, there's no real problem, per se.  Everything that you've given pdb2gmx is 
in the topology; the issue is that you haven't specified any parameters for 
those dihedrals:


CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4

2 3 4 5 1
2 3 8 7 1

Makes sense that they'd be missing.  If you're dealing with polystyrene, maybe 
consider basing the dihedrals off of those contained in the PHE sidechain in the 
Gromos force field you appear to be using.


-Justin

Andrea Muntean wrote:

Here are the .rtp entries:


[PS1]
[atoms]
CH3 CH3 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
CH3 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
CH3 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH3 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH3 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH3 CB  gi_1
CH  CH3 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
CH3 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold (n=2)
CH3 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH3 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4


[PS]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH2 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH2 CB  gi_1
CH  CH2 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold
CH2 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  CB  gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  +CH2gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold
CH2 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH2 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4

[ PSN ]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0
CH3 CH3 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  CH3 gb_26

[angles]
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  CH3 ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  CH3 ga_12
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1

[gmx-users] Double vs. Charged Single bonded Oxygen in GROMOS96.1

2008-10-27 Thread Peyman Yamin
Hi again dears,

I should ask for another comment. I have a Phorphorus to which two Oxygen 
atoms are bonded. One O is double bonded and the other has only a single bond 
while being negatively charged. In the topology file I get from prodrg both 
Os are denoted with OA (GROMOS96.1) atom type. both have the same charge 
(-0.421) and mass (15.9994). I guess the charge is reasonable for the 
double-bonded one, but not for the one with a single bond and a free 
electron. How could I correct this?

Cheers,
Peyman

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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Sorry,

once again for everybody in the list:

Here are the .rtp entries:


[PS1]
[atoms]
CH3 CH3 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
CH3 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
CH3 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH3 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH3 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH3 CB  gi_1
CH  CH3 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
CH3 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold (n=2)
CH3 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH3 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4


[PS]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  +CH2gb_26

[angles]
;109,5 angle
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  +CH2ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
;120 angle
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  +CH2CH2 gi_1
CH  +CH2CH2 CB  gi_1
CH  CH2 CB  +CH2gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold
CH2 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  CB  gd_16
-CH CH2 CH  +CH2gd_16
;around CH-CB - 2-fold
CH2 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
CH2 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
+CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
CH  CB  CG1 CG2
CH  CB  CG5 CG4

[ PSN ]
[atoms]
CH2 CH2 0   0
CH  CH1 0   0
CB  C   0   0
CG1 CR1 0   0
CG2 CR1 0   0
CG3 CR1 0   0
CG4 CR1 0   0
CG5 CR1 0   0
CH3 CH3 0   0

[bonds]
-CH CH2 gb_26
CH2 CH  gb_26
CH  CB  gb_26
CB  CG1 gb_15
CG1 CG2 gb_15
CG2 CG3 gb_15
CG3 CG4 gb_15
CG4 CG5 gb_15
CG5 CB  gb_15
CH  CH3 gb_26

[angles]
-CH CH2 CH  ga_12
CH2 CH  CH3 ga_12
CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
CB  CH  CH3 ga_12
CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

[impropers]
;keep the planarity of the ring
CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
;around CB
CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
;around CH
CH  CB  CH3CH2 gi_1
CH  CH3 CH2CB  gi_1
CH  CH2 CB CH3 gi_1

[dihedrals]
;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
-CH CH2   

Re: [gmx-users] trjcat

2008-10-27 Thread rams rams
Dear Justin,

The following is the command I am using:

trjcat -ffirst.xtc   second.xtc -o total.xtc

first.xtc and second.xtc are the stiched xtc files of first 1000 and second
1000 xtc files.

Ram.

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 Dear users,

 I have nearly 2000 xtc files to concatenate. If I type them all at the
 command prompt (or by using a small script) they are stiched well. But, If I
 stich the first 1000 and the next 1000 separately and then if I try to stich
 these two together I could not stich them properlty. Is there any way to
 stich the group of xtc files together?


 Can you show the actual command lines you're using to do this?

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Double vs. Charged Single bonded Oxygen in GROMOS96.1

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Peyman Yamin wrote:

Hi again dears,

I should ask for another comment. I have a Phorphorus to which two Oxygen 
atoms are bonded. One O is double bonded and the other has only a single bond 
while being negatively charged. In the topology file I get from prodrg both 
Os are denoted with OA (GROMOS96.1) atom type. both have the same charge 
(-0.421) and mass (15.9994). I guess the charge is reasonable for the 
double-bonded one, but not for the one with a single bond and a free 
electron. How could I correct this?




There is no true double or single bond.  Think resonance!

-Justin


Cheers,
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Re: [gmx-users] trjcat

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rams rams wrote:

Dear Justin,

The following is the command I am using:

trjcat -ffirst.xtc   second.xtc -o total.xtc

first.xtc and second.xtc are the stiched xtc files of first 1000 and 
second 1000 xtc files.




And so what happens that makes you think something is wrong?  Are you getting an 
error message?


-Justin


Ram.

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rams rams wrote:

Dear users,

I have nearly 2000 xtc files to concatenate. If I type them all
at the command prompt (or by using a small script) they are
stiched well. But, If I stich the first 1000 and the next 1000
separately and then if I try to stich these two together I could
not stich them properlty. Is there any way to stich the group of
xtc files together?


Can you show the actual command lines you're using to do this?

-Justin

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[gmx-users] table command

2008-10-27 Thread He, Yang
Hi all users,

I just use the command  mdrun -table table_nonbond.xvg  to run the table file 
but it always shows that

Fatal error:
Tables in file table_nonbond.xvg not long enough for cut-off:
should be at least 1.90 nm
Actually, I have listed all the values up to 2.000nm in the file so I get a 
little confused about this error;

Can anyone of you give me some suggestions?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: [gmx-users] Double vs. Charged Single bonded Oxygen in GROMOS96.1

2008-10-27 Thread Peyman Yamin
On Monday 27 October 2008 18:08, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
 Peyman Yamin wrote:
  Hi again dears,
 
  I should ask for another comment. I have a Phorphorus to which two Oxygen
  atoms are bonded. One O is double bonded and the other has only a single
  bond while being negatively charged. In the topology file I get from
  prodrg both Os are denoted with OA (GROMOS96.1) atom type. both have the
  same charge (-0.421) and mass (15.9994). I guess the charge is reasonable
  for the double-bonded one, but not for the one with a single bond and a
  free electron. How could I correct this?

 There is no true double or single bond.  Think resonance!


Impressive answer! But, well, I'm not sure about that resonance thing?

...C-O-P(+3)-O-C... So far it's OK! but P still has 3 fellow electrons to 
share. it does share two of them at once with another O. I understand till 
here. there is another O who wants to get 2 electrons shared, but only 
receives one: it needs more = so we call it a negatively charges fellow 
oxygen, don't we?

Well I'm well aware of my chemistry knowledge fading away, but you'll tell me 
an OA will do well for both??

Thanks for the time, indeed,
Peyman


 -Justin

  Cheers,
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for methane.

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



xianghong qi wrote:

Hello,

Could anyone give me some suggestions about how to write a toplogy file 
for methane with OPLS-AA force field?

Thanks in advance.



For a very simple molecule like methane, it should be very straightforward to do 
from reading Chapter 5.


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Re: [gmx-users] Double vs. Charged Single bonded Oxygen in GROMOS96.1

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Peyman Yamin wrote:

On Monday 27 October 2008 18:08, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

Peyman Yamin wrote:

Hi again dears,

I should ask for another comment. I have a Phorphorus to which two Oxygen
atoms are bonded. One O is double bonded and the other has only a single
bond while being negatively charged. In the topology file I get from
prodrg both Os are denoted with OA (GROMOS96.1) atom type. both have the
same charge (-0.421) and mass (15.9994). I guess the charge is reasonable
for the double-bonded one, but not for the one with a single bond and a
free electron. How could I correct this?

There is no true double or single bond.  Think resonance!



Impressive answer! But, well, I'm not sure about that resonance thing?

...C-O-P(+3)-O-C... So far it's OK! but P still has 3 fellow electrons to 
share. it does share two of them at once with another O. I understand till 
here. there is another O who wants to get 2 electrons shared, but only 
receives one: it needs more = so we call it a negatively charges fellow 
oxygen, don't we?


I think there are going to be two distinct atom types.  For a few examples of 
how to deal with phosphates, see the .rtp entry for ATP, or look at the lipids 
that Peter Tieleman makes available online.  If we consider a traditional Lewis 
structure for the phosphodiester (hopefully this translates alright):


 O
 ||
R--O--P--O--R
  |
  O-

Really the =O and --O^- are equivalent in terms of atom type (OM in Gromos) and 
charge.  The O in the phosphodiester linkages are likely to bear similar 
charges, but have a different atom type (OE in Gromos).  Hence why proper 
parameterization takes a substantial amount of time.


Be careful if you're using the topology straight from PRODRG.  Its 
interpretation of charge groups and charges often requires a bit of refinement. 
 Also realize that Gromos96 is not the best for reproducing the properties of a 
lipid, although I don't know if isolated lipids have been considered.  The 
Berger lipid parameters (Gromos/OPLS combination) are widely used...but that's a 
whole other debate :)




Well I'm well aware of my chemistry knowledge fading away, but you'll tell me 
an OA will do well for both??




Maybe for the phosphodiester O, but not for the =O and --O^-; they are more like 
a carbonyl O (atom type OM).


-Justin


Thanks for the time, indeed,
Peyman


-Justin


Cheers,
Peyman




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[gmx-users] H2O water density = 6.4617 g/l 1000 g/l

2008-10-27 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I am creating the water box with the following command.
The maxsol = 800; but # of SOL = 27;
The H2O  water density =  6.4617 g/l   1000 g/l

Did I do anything wrong on my genbox command or 1w.gro file?

Thank you
Lin


genbox -cp 1w.gro -cs 1w.gro -o box.gro -box 5 5 5 -maxsol 800

Output configuration contains 81 atoms in 27 residues
Volume : 125 (nm^3)
Density:  6.4617 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules: 27



Here is the  1w.gro

216H2O,WATJP01,SPC216,SPC-MODEL,300K,BOX(M)=1.86206NM,WFVG,MAR. 1984
3
1SOL OW1.230.628.113
1SOLHW12.137.626.150
1SOLHW23.231.589.021
   1.86206   1.86206   1.86206
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Re: [gmx-users] Dihedral not counted?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrea Muntean
Strange enough, those dihedrals are there, but the dihedral between
atoms 2 9 10 and 17 is missing (in the main chain), altough defined in
the PS residue (as -CH CH2 CH +CH2). I am still clueless...


Greetings,
Andrea


2008/10/27 Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well, there's no real problem, per se.  Everything that you've given pdb2gmx
 is in the topology; the issue is that you haven't specified any parameters
 for those dihedrals:

 CH  CB  CG1 CG2
 CH  CB  CG5 CG4

 2 3 4 5 1
 2 3 8 7 1

 Makes sense that they'd be missing.  If you're dealing with polystyrene,
 maybe consider basing the dihedrals off of those contained in the PHE
 sidechain in the Gromos force field you appear to be using.

 -Justin

 Andrea Muntean wrote:

 Here are the .rtp entries:


 [PS1]
 [atoms]
 CH3 CH3 0   0
 CH  CH1 0   0
 CB  C   0   0
 CG1 CR1 0   0
 CG2 CR1 0   0
 CG3 CR1 0   0
 CG4 CR1 0   0
 CG5 CR1 0   0

 [bonds]
 CH3 CH  gb_26
 CH  CB  gb_26
 CB  CG1 gb_15
 CG1 CG2 gb_15
 CG2 CG3 gb_15
 CG3 CG4 gb_15
 CG4 CG5 gb_15
 CG5 CB  gb_15
 CH  +CH2gb_26

 [angles]
 ;109,5 angle
 CH3 CH  +CH2ga_12
 CH3 CH  CB  ga_12
 CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
 ;120 angle
 CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
 CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
 CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
 CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
 CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
 CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
 CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
 CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

 [impropers]
 ;keep the planarity of the ring
 CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
 CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
 CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
 CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
 CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
 CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
 ;around CB
 CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
 CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
 CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
 ;around CH
 CH  CB  +CH2CH3 gi_1
 CH  +CH2CH3 CB  gi_1
 CH  CH3 CB  +CH2gi_1

 [dihedrals]
 ;in the chain - 3-fold (n=3)
 CH3 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
 CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
 ;around CH-CB - 2-fold (n=2)
 CH3 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
 CH3 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
 +CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
 +CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
 ;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
 CH  CB  CG1 CG2
 CH  CB  CG5 CG4


 [PS]
 [atoms]
 CH2 CH2 0   0
 CH  CH1 0   0
 CB  C   0   0
 CG1 CR1 0   0
 CG2 CR1 0   0
 CG3 CR1 0   0
 CG4 CR1 0   0
 CG5 CR1 0   0

 [bonds]
 -CH CH2 gb_26
 CH2 CH  gb_26
 CH  CB  gb_26
 CB  CG1 gb_15
 CG1 CG2 gb_15
 CG2 CG3 gb_15
 CG3 CG4 gb_15
 CG4 CG5 gb_15
 CG5 CB  gb_15
 CH  +CH2gb_26

 [angles]
 ;109,5 angle
 -CH CH2 CH  ga_12
 CH2 CH  +CH2ga_12
 CH2 CH  CB  ga_12
 CB  CH  +CH2ga_12
 ;120 angle
 CH  CB  CG1 ga_26
 CH  CB  CG5 ga_26
 CG1 CB  CG5 ga_26
 CB  CG1 CG2 ga_26
 CG1 CG2 CG3 ga_26
 CG2 CG3 CG4 ga_26
 CG3 CG4 CG5 ga_26
 CG4 CG5 CB  ga_26

 [impropers]
 ;keep the planarity of the ring
 CB  CG1 CG2 CG3 gi_1
 CG1 CG2 CG3 CG4 gi_1
 CG2 CG3 CG4 CG5 gi_1
 CG3 CG4 CG5 CB  gi_1
 CG4 CG5 CB  CG1 gi_1
 CG5 CB  CG1 CG2 gi_1
 ;around CB
 CB  CG1 CG5 CH  gi_1
 CB  CG5 CH  CG1 gi_1
 CB  CH  CG1 CG5 gi_1
 ;around CH
 CH  CB  +CH2CH2 gi_1
 CH  +CH2CH2 CB  gi_1
 CH  CH2 CB  +CH2gi_1

 [dihedrals]
 ;in the chain - 3-fold
 CH2 CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
 CB  CH  +CH2+CH gd_16
 -CH CH2 CH  CB  gd_16
 -CH CH2 CH  +CH2gd_16
 ;around CH-CB - 2-fold
 CH2 CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
 CH2 CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
 +CH2CH  CB  CG5 gd_1
 +CH2CH  CB  CG1 gd_1
 ;around CB-CG - 2-fold?,do we need them?
 CH  CB  CG1 CG2
 CH  CB  CG5 CG4

 [ PSN ]
 [atoms]
 CH2 CH2 0   0
 CH  CH1 0   0
 CB  C   0   0
 CG1 CR1 0   0
 CG2 CR1 0   0
 CG3 CR1 0   0
 CG4 CR1 0   0
 CG5 CR1 0   0
 CH3 CH3 0   0

 [bonds]
 -CH CH2 gb_26
 CH2 CH  gb_26
 CH  CB  gb_26
 CB  CG1 gb_15
 CG1 CG2 gb_15
 CG2 CG3 gb_15
 CG3 CG4 gb_15
 CG4 CG5 gb_15
 CG5 CB  gb_15
 CH  CH3 gb_26

 [angles]
 -CH CH2 

Re: [gmx-users] topology file for methane.

2008-10-27 Thread xianghong qi
Hi, Justin:
I am reading chapter 5 now. Still feel confused. I wrote methane.top file
like this:

; Methane topology file
;
; The force field files to be included
#include ffoplsaa.itp

[ moleculetype ]
; Namenrexcl
 METH 3

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass
typeBchargeB  massB
 1   opls_138  1METH C  1  -0.24 12.011   ; qtot
0.61
 2   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.67
 3   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.67
 4   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.73
 5   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; qtot
0.79

[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1
1 3 1
1 4 1
1 5 1

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Methane

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
METH 1
; ;;;

Then I should go to ffoplsaa.rtp file to add a new molecule like :

[METH]
 [ atoms ]
 Copls_135   -0.240 1
   HC1opls_1400.060 1
   HC2opls_1400.060 1
   HC3opls_1400.060 1
   HC4opls_1400.60  1
 [ bonds ]
 C  HC1
 C  HC2
 C  HC3
 C  HC4
;;;

Is that reasonable?  Thanks for your help.


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 xianghong qi wrote:

 Hello,

 Could anyone give me some suggestions about how to write a toplogy file
 for methane with OPLS-AA force field?
 Thanks in advance.


 For a very simple molecule like methane, it should be very straightforward
 to do from reading Chapter 5.

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] [Fwd: Problem in running energy minimization in gromacs]

2008-10-27 Thread David van der Spoel



 Original Message 
Subject: Problem in running energy minimization in gromacs
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:16:23 +
From: abhik mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Dr. Spoel
Good day.

I am a beginner in Gromacs and having some problem in running energy
minimization. I am working with an enzyme that has a Zn bound to four
residues (3 cys and 1 his). I am trying to run a md simulation. But
after the minimization I always found the Zinc coming out of the enzyme.
I ran the minimization both with generating counter ions and without
generating. The result is same. Do I need to take any special care to
work with metalloenzyme ?

 Yes. You need restraints.

Any suggestion from you will be highly useful for me.
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Re: [gmx-users] topology file for methane.

2008-10-27 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



xianghong qi wrote:

Hi, Justin:
I am reading chapter 5 now. Still feel confused. I wrote methane.top 
file like this:


; Methane topology file
;
; The force field files to be included
#include ffoplsaa.itp

[ moleculetype ]
; Namenrexcl
 METH 3

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  
typeBchargeB  massB
 1   opls_138  1METH C  1  -0.24 12.011   ; 
qtot 0.61
 2   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.67
 3   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.67
 4   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.73
 5   opls_140  1METH H  1   0.06  1.008   ; 
qtot 0.79


[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1
1 3 1
1 4 1
1 5 1

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Methane

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
METH 1
; ;;;

Then I should go to ffoplsaa.rtp file to add a new molecule like :

[METH]
 [ atoms ]
 Copls_135   -0.240 1
   HC1opls_1400.060 1
   HC2opls_1400.060 1
   HC3opls_1400.060 1
   HC4opls_1400.60  1
 [ bonds ]
 C  HC1
 C  HC2
 C  HC3
 C  HC4
;;;

Is that reasonable?  Thanks for your help.




Seems fine to me.

-Justin

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xianghong qi wrote:

Hello,

Could anyone give me some suggestions about how to write a
toplogy file for methane with OPLS-AA force field?
Thanks in advance.


For a very simple molecule like methane, it should be very
straightforward to do from reading Chapter 5.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] H2O water density = 6.4617 g/l 1000 g/l

2008-10-27 Thread Mark Abraham

Chih-Ying Lin wrote:

Hi
I am creating the water box with the following command.
The maxsol = 800; but # of SOL = 27;
The H2O  water density =  6.4617 g/l   1000 g/l

Did I do anything wrong on my genbox command or 1w.gro file?

Thank you
Lin


genbox -cp 1w.gro -cs 1w.gro -o box.gro -box 5 5 5 -maxsol 800

Output configuration contains 81 atoms in 27 residues
Volume : 125 (nm^3)
Density:  6.4617 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules: 27



Here is the  1w.gro

216H2O,WATJP01,SPC216,SPC-MODEL,300K,BOX(M)=1.86206NM,WFVG,MAR. 1984
3
1SOL OW1.230.628.113
1SOLHW12.137.626.150
1SOLHW23.231.589.021
   1.86206   1.86206   1.86206


So when you tile these cubes of side length 1.86nm in a 3x3x3 grid, you 
over-fill a cube of side length 5nm and get 27 water molecules. Use the 
standard water .gro files in the distribution and then minimize and 
equilibrate.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] table command

2008-10-27 Thread Mark Abraham

He, Yang wrote:

Hi all users,

I just use the command  mdrun -table table_nonbond.xvg  to run the table file 
but it always shows that

Fatal error:
Tables in file table_nonbond.xvg not long enough for cut-off:
should be at least 1.90 nm
Actually, I have listed all the values up to 2.000nm in the file so I get a 
little confused about this error;

Can anyone of you give me some suggestions?


Compare your file with the ones in the distribution in 
share/gromacs/top/*xvg, or with those generated with mdrun -debug 
without attempting to use your own table.


Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] table_bonded.xvg

2008-10-27 Thread He, Yang
Hi ,

I also encountered the same problem when I use the command:

 mdrun -table table_nonbond.xvg

it shows that

Fatal error:
Library file bond_b0_b0.xvg not found in current dir nor in default
directories.
(You can set the directories to search with the GMXLIB path variable)

I wonder whether you have figured out this problem. Would you mind share your 
experience?

Thank you .

Yang

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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] table_bonded.xvg

Hi,

When I type :

mdrun  -tableb bond_b0.xvg -v

I get following message:

  Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0
Source code file: futil.c, line: 527

Fatal error:
Library file bond_b0_b0.xvg not found in current dir nor in default
directories.
(You can set the directories to search with the GMXLIB path variable)
---

Thats what confused me


when I type mdrun  -tableb
It reads table_b0.xvg

Greetings

Andrzej


 Hi,

 According to me it does not.
 I never change the default names.
 But with the default names the table file name option is table.xvg
 and for a tabulated bond table number 0, it correctly opens table_b0.xvg

 Berk


 From: A.Rzepiela at rug.nl
 To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:45:53 +0200
 Subject: [gmx-users] table_bonded.xvg

 Dear Users

 In gromacs 4.0, in file force.c  in function make_bonded_tables line
 (1007)
   sprintf(tabfn + strlen(basefn)  - strlen(ftp2ext(efXVG)) -
 1,_%s%d.%s, tabext, i, ftp2ext(efXVG));

 produces table_bonded_bonded.xvg  instead of  table_bonded.xvg

 Greetings

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RE: [gmx-users] table command

2008-10-27 Thread He, Yang
Hi Mark,

Sorry to bother you again. I just change my table file a little by adding more 
values into the file and then I use the command;

mdrun -table table_nonbond.xvg

it shows :

Fatal error:
Library file tablep.xvg not found in current dir nor in default directories.
(You can set the directories to search with the GMXLIB path variable)
What is the problem?

Yang

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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] table command

He, Yang wrote:
 Hi all users,

 I just use the command  mdrun -table table_nonbond.xvg  to run the table file 
 but it always shows that

 Fatal error:
 Tables in file table_nonbond.xvg not long enough for cut-off:
 should be at least 1.90 nm
 Actually, I have listed all the values up to 2.000nm in the file so I get a 
 little confused about this error;

 Can anyone of you give me some suggestions?

Compare your file with the ones in the distribution in
share/gromacs/top/*xvg, or with those generated with mdrun -debug
without attempting to use your own table.

Mark
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[gmx-users] how to set up a rigid system

2008-10-27 Thread Jinyao Wang
Dear GMX users,

I am carrying out MD for a rigid system by Gromacs.But I couldnot know how to 
set up this rigid system.
If you could give me some advice or some material, I will appreciate it.





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Re: [gmx-users] mdrun doesn't run in version 4.0 on sgi server

2008-10-27 Thread Lee Soin
I try to compile GROMACS with a combination of icc and ifort. Error occurs.
These are the last lines of the compilation message:
Making install in gmx_blas
make[3]: Entering directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_blas'
make[4]: Entering directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_blas'
make[4]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
make[4]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_blas'
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_blas'
Making install in gmx_lapack
make[3]: Entering directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_lapack'
make[4]: Entering directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_lapack'
make[4]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
make[4]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_lapack'
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib/gmx_lapack'
make[3]: Entering directory `/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib'
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=compile
/disk2/junwang/soft/intel/cc/10.1.018/bin/icc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
-I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I../../include
-DGMXLIBDIR=\/disk2/junwang/soft/gromacs4/share/top\
-I/disk2/junwang/soft/fftw32_mpi/include  -O3 -w -funroll-all-loops -MT
libxdrf.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libxdrf.Tpo -c -o libxdrf.lo libxdrf.c
 /disk2/junwang/soft/intel/cc/10.1.018/bin/icc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
-I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I../../include
-DGMXLIBDIR=\/disk2/junwang/soft/gromacs4/share/top\
-I/disk2/junwang/soft/fftw32_mpi/include -O3 -w -funroll-all-loops -MT
libxdrf.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libxdrf.Tpo -c libxdrf.c -o libxdrf.o
libxdrf.c(112): error: identifier XDR_INT_SIZE is undefined
cnt += XDR_INT_SIZE;
   ^
libxdrf.c(140): error: identifier XDR_INT_SIZE is undefined
cnt += XDR_INT_SIZE;
   ^
compilation aborted for libxdrf.c (code 2)
make[3]: *** [libxdrf.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib'
make[2]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src/gmxlib'
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/disk2/junwang/soft/src/gromacs-4.0/src'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1




My intel compiler versions are both 10.1.018.




2008/10/27 Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Carsten Kutzner wrote:

 Hi,

 Mark Abraham wrote:

 Lee Soin wrote:

 By invoking uname -a:
 Linux sgi4700 2.6.16.46-0.12-default #1 SMP Thu May 17 14:00:09 UTC
 2007 ia64 ia64 ia64 GNU/Linux
  I don't know any other command to retrieve system information.

 Hmm, that looks like an SGI Altix 4700. IA64 kernels work on those
 machines.

 Well, not exactly.


 Ah, oops. I was thinking of the Altix 3700 series, which predates
 Montecito. My bad.

 They work in combination with Gromacs version = 3.3.x,
 but at least I have never managed to get them working with this year's
 CVS Gromacs or Gromacs 4.x - see also

 http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-developers/2008-February/002405.html

 The strange thing is that these inner loops have not changed since 3.3.x,
 so the problem might be somewhere else. But actually the Fortran loops
 have a quite decent performance on that machine compared to assembly: In
 a single-CPU test I did with gmx 3.3 they were just about 10% slower.


 Good to know. Lee should definitely compare performance when using
 configure with and without --enable-fortran (and using
 --disable-cpu-optimization to avoid needing to set the environment
 variable).


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Re: [gmx-users] table command

2008-10-27 Thread Mark Abraham

He, Yang wrote:

Hi Mark,

Sorry to bother you again. I just change my table file a little by adding more 
values into the file and then I use the command;

mdrun -table table_nonbond.xvg

it shows :

Fatal error:
Library file tablep.xvg not found in current dir nor in default directories.
(You can set the directories to search with the GMXLIB path variable)
What is the problem?


It should mean what it says. I suspect either your command line or 
environment is different from before.


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Re: Re: [gmx-users]Simulated annealing

2008-10-27 Thread JMandumpal
  Dear Xavier and Jochen,

Thank you for the suggestions: it works well now.

Jes.


On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 Xavier Periole wrote :
On 27 Oct 2008 06:36:09 -
  JMandumpal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear GROMACS users,

I have got a problem while running a simulated anealing simulations, using 
GROMACS 3.3.3 version, of pure water:

the task:

I want to cool the system (water- 500 molecules) from 360 K to 0K in 100ps 
time ( fast cooling). For that I used the following script:

title= Water annealing simulation
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = md
; Start time and timestep in ps
dt   = 0.001; 1fs
nsteps   = 10  ; 1ps
; For exact run continuation or redoing part of a run
init_step  = 0
; number of steps for center of mass motion removal
nstcomm  = 1
; group(s) for center of mass motion removal
comm-grps= SOL
; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f)
nstxout  = 1 ; 10ps
nstvout  = 1 ; 10ps
nstfout  = 0
; Checkpointing helps you continue after crashes
nstcheckpoint= 100
; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file
nstlog   = 0
nstenergy= 1000 ; 1ps
; Output frequency and precision for xtc file
;nstxtcout= 0
;xtc-precision= 1000
; select multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written.
; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist  = 10
; ns algorithm (simple or grid)
ns_type  = grid
; Periodic boundary conditions:
pbc  = xyz
; nblist cut-off
rlist= 1.0
; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
; Method for doing electrostatics
coulombtype  = pme
rcoulomb = 1.0
ewald_rtol   = 1.0e-5  ; since erfc(sigma*rcutoff)=ewald_rtol
optimize_fft = yes
; Relative dielectric constant for the medium
epsilon_r= 1  ; for water
; Method for doing Van der Waals
vdw-type = cut-off
rvdw = 1.0
; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing   = 0.12 ; check for the range 0.1 to 0.15
; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
pme_order= 4
ewald_geometry   = 3d
epsilon_surface  = 0
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
in what follows you have commented out the temperature coupling details.
I have never used SA but this for sure will not help the program controling
the temperature! Put these back on should help! :))
; Temperature coupling
;Tcoupl   = berendsen
; Groups to couple separately
;tc-grps  = system
; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K)
;tau-t = 0.1
;ref-t= 360
; simulated anealing
annealing= single
annealing_npoints= 2
annealing_time   = 0   0
annealing_temp   = 360 0
; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
gen_vel  = yes
gen-temp = 360
gen-seed = 173529
; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints  = all-bonds
constraint_algorithm = shake
shake_tol= 0.0001
morse= no
  
  
   ---

Problem:

Having done the simulations, the output shows ( ener.edr , Temperature)  a 
high temperature value around 850K. Clearly I did something wrong in my 
parameter file. 
---
the temperature extracted after the simulations
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s0 legend Temperature
0.00  376.058044
1.00  864.033020
2.00  873.607605
3.00  851.308838
4.00  847.223877
5.00  860.511841
6.00  813.547241
7.00  845.261658
8.00  872.090027
9.00  852.079468
   10.00  849.152466
   11.01  850.055237
   12.01  834.468323
   13.01  861.107300
   14.01  828.380493
   15.01  850.166809
   16.00  850.382019
   17.00  847.214478
   18.00  851.201538
   19.00  857.533691
   20.00  849.760071
   21.02  864.907715
   22.02  837.307495
   23.02  827.407593
   24.02  841.464111
   25.02  863.330688
   26.02  841.096069
   27.02  856.469910
   28.02  854.449768
   29.02  845.534973
   30.02  853.421448
   31.02  825.198059
   32.00  857.317566
   33.00  823.510925
  
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