[gmx-users] Number of Frames in Trajectory

2009-02-13 Thread varsha gautham
Dear users,

Am trying to simulate a polymer in vaccum.But when i make the production run
and view trajectory(.trr) files in VMD am getting only one frame.Here's a
part of my mdp file:

title   =  polymer
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all-bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.005;
nsteps  =  5;
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  1000
nstvout =  1000
nstfout =  1000
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.0
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tau_t   =  0.1   0.1
tc-grps=  BEN   NCH0
ref_t   =  300   300
; Pressure coupling is not on
Pcoupl  =  no
tau_p   =  0.5
compressibility =  4.5e-5
ref_p   =  1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  300.0
gen_seed=  173529


But the mdrun given for equilibriation step generated 96 frames.Is that
because of the algorithm that i specified in the integrtaor as MD.Because
other than md,when i gave bd or steep am getting more frames.So what is the
problem in obtining frames with  md as input for integrator?
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Re: [gmx-users] Number of Frames in Trajectory

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Abraham

varsha gautham wrote:

Dear users,

Am trying to simulate a polymer in vaccum.But when i make the production 
run and view trajectory(.trr) files in VMD am getting only one 
frame.Here's a part of my mdp file:


title   =  polymer
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all-bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.005;
nsteps  =  5;
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  1000
nstvout =  1000
nstfout =  1000


Are you sure you want positions, velocities and forces every thousand 
steps? What are you going to do with the latter two? Check out the 
manual, chapter 7.



nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.0
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tau_t   =  0.1   0.1
tc-grps=  BEN   NCH0
ref_t   =  300   300
; Pressure coupling is not on
Pcoupl  =  no
tau_p   =  0.5
compressibility =  4.5e-5
ref_p   =  1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  300.0
gen_seed=  173529


But the mdrun given for equilibriation step generated 96 frames.Is that 


Not possible - the above would generate at most 50.

because of the algorithm that i specified in the integrtaor as 
MD.Because other than md,when i gave bd or steep am getting more 
frames.So what is the problem in obtining frames with  md as input for 
integrator?


MD does MD, not energy minimization, as those others do.

Mark
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[gmx-users] how to get a solvent density map using volumeslice in VMD

2009-02-13 Thread Jinyao Wang
Hi gmx-users,
I want to get a solvent density map like that in the link 
http://p13.freep.cn/p.aspx?u=v20_p13_p_0902131629052385_0.bmp
So I use g_spatial to calculate the spatial distribution function and get a 
*.cube file.
I load the *.cube file into VMD and view it as an volumeslice but no anything 
is displayed.
how can I get the solvent density map? If you have some experience,please give 
me some suggestion.




Jinyao Wang
wan...@ciac.jl.cn
  2009-02-13
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[gmx-users] .mdp file for polymer

2009-02-13 Thread varsha gautham
hello sir,

I made nstvout  and nstfout   parameters to zero and frequency to update
position coordinates alone (nstxout) to 1000.But still am getting only one
frame when viewed the trajectory in VMD.It is an NVT ensemble.How can i get
more than one frame?I  think the timestep and nsteps i have given is right
only.Please help me out in this issue.
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[gmx-users] Nehalem

2009-02-13 Thread Rainer Bockmann

Dear All,

could somebody already test the performance of Intel's Nehalem CPU in  
comparison to Harpertown or to AMD's Shanghai using Gromacs?


Thanks
Rainer
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Re: [gmx-users] P-N vector orientation

2009-02-13 Thread patrick fuchs

Hi,
as Nicolas suggested you can use my program g_tilt to do such an 
analysis. Instead of giving the whole backbone as a selection, simply 
give the 2 atoms (P  N). Initially g_tilt uses the first eigen vector 
of the inertia matrix of the atom selection, so you might want to 
simplify the code to calculate the PN vector (using [xN-xP,yN-yP,zN-zP]).

Ciao,

Patrick

Nicolas a écrit :

Hello,

I just remember that you might be interested by g_tilt developed by 
Patrick Fuchs.:


   http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/~fuchs/download/
   http://www.dsimb.inserm.fr/%7Efuchs/download/

Its purpose is to calculate the orientation of an helix in a bilayer, 
however it might tweaked to calculate the NP dipole orientation. I've 
done that one time, but it was only for a particular lipid in a 
membrane, not for the whole bilayer. IIRW, the result was the same than 
the one of my scripts and the calculation was much faster.


Nicolas

ANINDITA GAYEN a écrit :

Dear Xavier Periole
 I am a GROMACS user, presently working with DMPC  
bilayer.. I want to calculate the orientation of the head groups P-N 
vector. From gmx-users,  I have came to know that you have a program 
that can determine the angle of the PN vector (or what ever pair of 
atoms) relative to the z axis.
If possible, can you please provide me that program or tell me how can 
i calculate that?


Thanks in advance.

Ms. Anindita Gayen
C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay
Senior Research Fellow
Department of Chemistry
University of Calcutta
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[gmx-users] Re: Nehalem

2009-02-13 Thread sobereva

Hi,

Gromacs is a test term of SPEC CPU2006 benchmark suite, which aims at providing 
a standard and comparable performance evaluation for different platform. They 
provided a online database http://www.spec.org/cgi-bin/osgresults?conf=cpu2006

visit it and search the CPU name you interested, the performance on gromacs and 
some other scientific softwares will be listed. The performances record of the 
CPU based on Harpertown, Shanghai and Nehalem are now available on the database.

--Lu Tian

 Dear All,
 
 could somebody already test the performance of Intel's
 Nehalem CPU in  
 comparison to Harpertown or to AMD's Shanghai using
 Gromacs?
 
 Thanks
 Rainer
 __
 Dr. Rainer Böckmann
 Theoretical  Computational Membrane Biology
 Center for Bioinformatics Saar
 Universität des Saarlandes
 Gebäude C7.1, EG
 D-66041 Saarbrücken, Germany
 Phone: ++49 +681 302-64169 / 68627  FAX: ++49 +681
 302-64180
 E-Mail: rai...@bioinformatik.uni-saarland.de
 http://www.bioinf.uni-sb.de/RB/




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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Nehalem

2009-02-13 Thread Jones de Andrade
One point here is the fact that on specfp gromacs is NOT compiled with the
assembly parts. Those come from fortran. Performance hit, in different ways
from different architectures and compilers due to this. ;)

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, sobereva sobju...@yahoo.com.cn wrote:


 Hi,

 Gromacs is a test term of SPEC CPU2006 benchmark suite, which aims at
 providing a standard and comparable performance evaluation for different
 platform. They provided a online database
 http://www.spec.org/cgi-bin/osgresults?conf=cpu2006

 visit it and search the CPU name you interested, the performance on gromacs
 and some other scientific softwares will be listed. The performances record
 of the CPU based on Harpertown, Shanghai and Nehalem are now available on
 the database.

 --Lu Tian

  Dear All,
 
  could somebody already test the performance of Intel's
  Nehalem CPU in
  comparison to Harpertown or to AMD's Shanghai using
  Gromacs?
 
  Thanks
  Rainer
  __
  Dr. Rainer Böckmann
  Theoretical  Computational Membrane Biology
  Center for Bioinformatics Saar
  Universität des Saarlandes
  Gebäude C7.1, EG
  D-66041 Saarbrücken, Germany
  Phone: ++49 +681 302-64169 / 68627  FAX: ++49 +681
  302-64180
  E-Mail: rai...@bioinformatik.uni-saarland.de
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[gmx-users] Problem using MPIRUN MDRUN

2009-02-13 Thread fprisch
Dear users,

I'm trying to run gromacs v.3.3.3. on a cluster of 4 machines with 8 CPUs each. 
I've checked the mailing list and the manual in order to find the correct way 
to write the command line and I've found that the commands listed below are 
supposed to be correct and to work.
 grompp_mpi_d -f md.mdp -c file_pr.gro -p file.top -o file_md.tpr -np 32
 mpirun -np 32 /dms/prog/bin/mdrun_mpi_d -s file_md.tpr -o file_md.trr -c 
 file_md.gro -np 32

The dynamics starts, but after few minutes it crushes and I've got this message 
of error: 

One of the processes started by mpirun has exited with a nonzero exit code.  
This typically indicates that the process finished in error. If your process 
did not finish in error, be sure to include a return 0 or exit(0) in your C 
code before exiting the application.
PID 24320 failed on node n0 (195.195.124.134) with exit status 1.

Does anyone can help me to sort out this problem?Does anyone know what I'm 
doing wrong? 

Thanks a lot,

Filippo
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Re: [gmx-users] .mdp file for polymer

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Abraham

varsha gautham wrote:

hello sir,

I made nstvout  and nstfout   parameters to zero and frequency to update 
position coordinates alone (nstxout) to 1000.But still am getting only 
one frame when viewed the trajectory in VMD.


Just like some other trajectory formats, you do have to open a structure 
file and then import the trajectory...


It is an NVT ensemble.How 
can i get more than one frame?I  think the timestep and nsteps i have 
given is right only.Please help me out in this issue.


So what does gmxcheck or gmxdump tell you about your trajectories?

Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] Problem using MPIRUN MDRUN

2009-02-13 Thread osmair oliveira

Hi Filippo,

Do you have checked your trajectory ( *.trr or *.xtc) and  *.log ?
You system may have 'exploded'...

Osmair


 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:27:09 +
 From: fpri...@nimr.mrc.ac.uk
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] Problem using MPIRUN MDRUN
 
 Dear users,
 
 I'm trying to run gromacs v.3.3.3. on a cluster of 4 machines with 8 CPUs 
 each. I've checked the mailing list and the manual in order to find the 
 correct way to write the command line and I've found that the commands listed 
 below are supposed to be correct and to work.
  grompp_mpi_d -f md.mdp -c file_pr.gro -p file.top -o file_md.tpr -np 32
  mpirun -np 32 /dms/prog/bin/mdrun_mpi_d -s file_md.tpr -o file_md.trr -c 
  file_md.gro -np 32
 
 The dynamics starts, but after few minutes it crushes and I've got this 
 message of error: 
 
 One of the processes started by mpirun has exited with a nonzero exit code.  
 This typically indicates that the process finished in error. If your process 
 did not finish in error, be sure to include a return 0 or exit(0) in your 
 C code before exiting the application.
 PID 24320 failed on node n0 (195.195.124.134) with exit status 1.
 
 Does anyone can help me to sort out this problem?Does anyone know what I'm 
 doing wrong? 
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Filippo
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Re: [gmx-users] Problem using MPIRUN MDRUN

2009-02-13 Thread fprisch
Thanks a lot, I'll check stderr and stdout, because I think that the log file 
is correct (it looks like a normal dynamic that has been manually interrupted). 
The system is not exploded cause it does not generate the gro file and step 
files.
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[gmx-users] how to get a solvent density map using volumeslice in VMD

2009-02-13 Thread chris . neale

Hi Jinyao,

your question is not very well defined. It is considerably easier for  
me if you tell me exactly what you tried to get this to work, which I  
imagine was more than simply running g_spacial once and selecting the  
volume_slice representation in vmd. That said,


1. Can you view it as an isosurface? That is a simpler representation  
to get working and so is a valuable test.


2. Did you try pushing the bar that moves the slicing plane up and down?
2b. Did you try changing the axis and then repeating #2, above?

3. Open the colors dialog and go to color scales. When you see the  
volume slice as entirely one color, does that color correspond to full  
strength or no signal?


4. With the color scale mentioned above, try changing the offset and  
magnitude of the gradient and see if that has any effect.


5. What options did you use when you ran g_spatial?

Chris.

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:43:14 +0800
From: Jinyao Wang wan...@ciac.jl.cn
Subject: [gmx-users] how to get a solvent density map using
volumeslice inVMD
To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
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Content-Type: text/plain;charset=gb2312

Hi gmx-users,
I want to get a solvent density map like that in the link  
http://p13.freep.cn/p.aspx?u=v20_p13_p_0902131629052385_0.bmp
So I use g_spatial to calculate the spatial distribution function and  
get a *.cube file.
I load the *.cube file into VMD and view it as an volumeslice but no  
anything is displayed.
how can I get the solvent density map? If you have some  
experience,please give me some suggestion.


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[gmx-users] Problem with different version

2009-02-13 Thread Shaghayegh Vafaei
Hi,
I apologize in advance if my question has been asked before.
I don't follow all the questions and I am sorry.

Recently I have faced problem with g_clustsize command in Gromacs.
I've used the command as below and I've gotten the error :

 g_clustsize_d -f drg -s drg -nc nclut -mc maxclust -ac avclust -cut 0.45 -mol
-n drg
Reading frame   0 time0.000   Reading file drg.tpr, VERSION 4.0 (single
precision)
Reading file drg.tpr, VERSION 4.0 (single precision)
Using molecules rather than atoms. Not reading index file drg.ndx
Last frame   2000 time 2.000
cmid: 1, cmax: 1, max_size: 1

Back Off! I just backed up csize.xpm to ./#csize.xpm.2#

---
Program g_clustsize_d, VERSION 4.0
Source code file: matio.c, line: 533

Fatal error:
Lo: 0.00, Mid: 1.00, Hi: 1.00

I have done some part of my simulation with the last version and some part with
the latest one. So I decided to check whether there is a problem with my new
.tpr file. But,when I want to read my new version .tpr file with g_clustsize
from old version, it doesn't work. This doesn't make sense for me .

I appreciate your help,

Shaqayeq

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Re: [gmx-users] Virial from non-bonded forces

2009-02-13 Thread Omololu Akin-Ojo
Dear David,

Thanks for your response. It was very valuable. I looked in the codes to locate 
the place(s) where GROMACS obtains/accumulates the shifted forces and as far as 
I could see, GROMACS does this correctly for the short-range forces and 
re-distributes the forces on the virtual sites unto the real/atomic  sites 
before calculating the virial.
For the long-range forces (Ewald, SPME), however, one has to use all the 
possible (infinite number of) images but GROMACS does not do this; personally, 
I think it is impossible to do this.

There is, however, this important point: if the position of the dummy scales 
the same way as those of the real sites, then one does not need to 
re-distribute the forces in order to calculate the virial -- simply treat all 
sites in the same way. Thus, for dummy types 1,2,3, the virial calculated (even 
with Ewald) will be correct since r_d(L*r_1, ..., L*r_n) = L*r_d(r_1, ..., r_n) 
where r_d is the dummy site and r_1, ..., r_n are the real/atomic sites. For 
types 3fd,  3fad, 3out, and 4fd for which the position of the virtual site does 
not scale like those of the real sites, the virial calculated in GROMACS will 
be correct only for the short-range forces (since this is done correctly in the 
code) but not for the long-range ones. Note, however, that for rigid molecules, 
since the intramolecular bondlengths are constant, one can replace certain 
magnitudes |( )|  by constants in  3fd,  3fad, and 4fd. [In 3out replace by 
c/sqrt(|rij| * |rik|) ] so that r_d will
 scale just like any r_i or any r_ij. Thus, for rigid monomers (eg TIP5P), one 
again gets the correct contribution to the virial from long-range forces.
Fortunately, I do not know any flexible models out there that use 3fd,  3fad, 
3out, and 4fd for the virtual sites.

Thanks for your time!

o.





From: David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:52:06 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Virial from non-bonded forces

Omololu Akin-Ojo wrote:
 Hi,
  I have two main issues:
  1. In Appendix B of the GROMACS user manual, there is a discussion of the 
 calculation of the virial. The top of the second page of the appendix (just 
 before B.1.2) states, In a triclinic system there are 27 possible images of 
 i, 
 My question is: In this case, there should also be 27 possible forces on 
 particle  j due to i. Granted, only the force corresponding to the shortest 
 i-j distance will be non-zero but when the forces are multiplied by \delta_i, 
 (in Eq. B.11) the correct force (out of all the 27 possible ones) should be 
 multiplied by the corresponding \delta_i.
 In other words, if we label each of the 27 possible \delta_i by n 
 ((\delta_i)^n), we should do the same with the forces F_i  ((F_i)^n) and the 
 sum in B.11 should also contain a sum over n.
 For ver. 3.3.1, I see that in src/mdlib/calcvir.c each of the different 
 (\delta_i)^n is used but for fixed i, the same force F_i is used irrespective 
 of the value of n.
 (See also, J. Chem. Phys. vol. 117, p2449 (2002), the 3rd line from the 
 bottom of the 2nd column on the first page.)
The force on the non+central boxes are also stored separately in an arrya 
fshift. The displacement part of the position is thus taken care of separately.

  2. How does GROMACS calculate the virial for charged virtual sites using the 
 Ewald summation (or SPME)? One needs to redistribute the forces before 
 calculating the virial but if one uses this approach one will need not only 
 27 possible \delta_i but, technically, an infinite number.
  
The order of redistributing forces and virial calculation is important, and one 
should indeed do it in the order you describe. This is not completely obvious, 
since the position used for computing the forces are those of the virtual 
sites. I do not see why one would need to compute multiple deltas, but it could 
be that the contribution to fshift (see above) is computed before 
redistributing the forces, which would not be consistent in that case. GROMACS 
does reproduce e.g. the density of TIP4P and TIP5P water correctly, so it seems 
that there is not a large error if there is one at all.


 Thanks for your input.
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[gmx-users] Langevin Dyanamics in GROMACS

2009-02-13 Thread M Hafizur Rahman
Hi all:
Anyone can help me using Langevin Dynamics in GROMACS. Where does the friction 
coefficient goes and How we can change the forece field to include PMF.

Thanks,
M. Rahman
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Re: [gmx-users] Langevin Dyanamics in GROMACS

2009-02-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



M Hafizur Rahman wrote:

Hi all:
Anyone can help me using Langevin Dynamics in GROMACS. Where does the 
friction coefficient goes and How we can change the forece field to 
include PMF.
 


For Langevin dynamics, read manual sections 3.8 or 3.9, depending on what you 
want to do.  Associated run control parameters are in section 7.3.3, or online:


http://www.gromacs.org/documentation/reference_4.0/online/mdp_opt.html

As for PMF, read manual sections 6.1, 6.3, and/or 6.4.

-Justin


Thanks,
M. Rahman
 





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Re: [gmx-users] Problem using MPIRUN MDRUN

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Abraham

fpri...@nimr.mrc.ac.uk wrote:

Thanks a lot, I'll check stderr and stdout, because I think that the log file 
is correct (it looks like a normal dynamic that has been manually interrupted).


If you've manually interrupted the simulation, then you cannot expect 
the buffered I/O to be correctly formed.



The system is not exploded cause it does not generate the gro file and step 
files.


If there's no final coordinate file (.gro by default), then the 
simulation did not complete correctly.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] SIMULATED ANNEALING

2009-02-13 Thread Mark Abraham

sharada wrote:


*Thankyou for the reply Mark.  In fact I started another simulated 
annealing job for my peptide with Tcoupl = Berendsen using the same 
annealing protocol. I didnot get any warnings. However the temperature 
increases from 0 to 53K and fluctuates around that through out till the 
end of the simulation. I am attaching the Averages and RMS values for 
the various components that its calculating. As you can see the average 
Temp is around 56 -58. Why is this not increasing beyound that?  I would 
also like to know if  the RMS fluctuations are in the required range , 
further if the system is behaving as an NVE ensemble which I don't 
intend to do right now what parameters I should correct in order to 
achieve an NPT ensemble.  Density of methanol is maintained, however the 
box sizes are reduced slightly from (editconf -f 2MLT_pdb2gmx.gro -o 
2MLT_box.gro -bt octahedron -box 6.9 6.9 6.9) to the ones as shown 
below.  Kindly guide me through.


Read the manual sections in chapter 7 on simulated annealing and 
temperature coupling, and check carefully how they work and what values 
you've selected.


Mark
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