[gmx-users] Has anyone adapted an Allinger force field for GROMACS? (MM,MM+,MM2,MM3...)

2009-05-19 Thread Inon Sharony


Good morning!

 I would like to use one of the MM force fields (originally by Allinger) in 
GROMACS. Has anyone tried to adapt such a force field?

I know of at least two previous inquiries:

Corina Barbu in 2003: http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2003-October

Konrad Piwowarczyk in 2004: 
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2004-January/008600.html

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Re: [gmx-users] Has anyone adapted an Allinger force field for GROMACS? (MM,MM+,MM2,MM3...)

2009-05-19 Thread David van der Spoel

Inon Sharony wrote:



Good morning!

 I would like to use one of the MM force fields (originally by Allinger) 
in GROMACS. Has anyone tried to adapt such a force field?



Short answer: No.

It should not be too hard if you want to try (that is if the functional 
form is implemented already).



I know of at least two previous inquiries:

Corina Barbu in 2003: 
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2003-October


Konrad Piwowarczyk in 2004: 
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2004-January/008600.html


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[gmx-users] Re: MD with RMSD restraint

2009-05-19 Thread Sam Moors

Hi,

Position restraints do not allow me to do what I want.
For instance, I want to allow the system to freely explore the conformational 
space within a certain RMSD range, but not evolve beyond a specified RMSD cutoff.
Another application would be to push the system conformation away from the 
reference structure, by using negative force constants.
Therefore the reference structure should be fitted to the simulation structure 
(or the other way around) before calculating the position differences.


Thanks in advance for your help,
Sam



Mark Abraham wrote:

Sam Moors wrote:

Hi gmx users/developers,

I would like to do a molecular dynamics simulation with a restraint on
the backbone RMS deviation from a reference structure.
Does anybody know if this is possible?


How about position restraints only on the backbone? Same effect.



Not exactly as you describe, but you should read the section in chapter
4 of the manual and see for yourself.


If yes, could you explain how to do it?
If no, what would be the easiest way to implement this in gromacs?


It could be done, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MD with RMSD restraint

2009-05-19 Thread David van der Spoel

Sam Moors wrote:

Hi,

Position restraints do not allow me to do what I want.
For instance, I want to allow the system to freely explore the 
conformational space within a certain RMSD range, but not evolve beyond 
a specified RMSD cutoff.
Another application would be to push the system conformation away from 
the reference structure, by using negative force constants.
Therefore the reference structure should be fitted to the simulation 
structure (or the other way around) before calculating the position 
differences.


Then you have to derive a force that is the derivative of the RMSD with 
respect to the positions. This may be difficult, since you have the 
superposition step in between.  What you could do straight away is move 
from normal RMSD to distance-based RMSD, in which case the this has been 
implemented using distance restraints. You would use genrestr to 
generate the additional topology input, then determine a suitable force 
constant and Bob's your uncle.


Cheers.


Thanks in advance for your help,
Sam



Mark Abraham wrote:

Sam Moors wrote:

Hi gmx users/developers,

I would like to do a molecular dynamics simulation with a restraint on
the backbone RMS deviation from a reference structure.
Does anybody know if this is possible?


How about position restraints only on the backbone? Same effect.



Not exactly as you describe, but you should read the section in chapter
4 of the manual and see for yourself.


If yes, could you explain how to do it?
If no, what would be the easiest way to implement this in gromacs?


It could be done, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MD with RMSD restraint

2009-05-19 Thread Massimiliano Bonomi

Another possibility is to patch gromacs with PLUMED

http://merlino.mi.infn.it/~plumed/PLUMED/Home.html

Here  RMSD  (and derivatives) is already implemented and you can
easily restraint your MD simulation within a certain RMSD cutoff
from a reference structure.

Massimiliano

On May 19, 2009, at 9:31 AM, David van der Spoel wrote:


Sam Moors wrote:

Hi,
Position restraints do not allow me to do what I want.
For instance, I want to allow the system to freely explore the  
conformational space within a certain RMSD range, but not evolve  
beyond a specified RMSD cutoff.
Another application would be to push the system conformation away  
from the reference structure, by using negative force constants.
Therefore the reference structure should be fitted to the  
simulation structure (or the other way around) before calculating  
the position differences.


Then you have to derive a force that is the derivative of the RMSD  
with respect to the positions. This may be difficult, since you have  
the superposition step in between.  What you could do straight away  
is move from normal RMSD to distance-based RMSD, in which case the  
this has been implemented using distance restraints. You would use  
genrestr to generate the additional topology input, then determine a  
suitable force constant and Bob's your uncle.


Cheers.

Thanks in advance for your help,
Sam


Mark Abraham wrote:

Sam Moors wrote:

Hi gmx users/developers,

I would like to do a molecular dynamics simulation with a  
restraint on

the backbone RMS deviation from a reference structure.
Does anybody know if this is possible?


How about position restraints only on the backbone? Same effect.



Not exactly as you describe, but you should read the section in  
chapter

4 of the manual and see for yourself.


If yes, could you explain how to do it?
If no, what would be the easiest way to implement this in gromacs?


It could be done, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MD with RMSD restraint

2009-05-19 Thread Ran Friedman
Hi,
You can also use essential dynamics sampling.
Ran.

David van der Spoel wrote:
 Sam Moors wrote:
 Hi,

 Position restraints do not allow me to do what I want.
 For instance, I want to allow the system to freely explore the
 conformational space within a certain RMSD range, but not evolve
 beyond a specified RMSD cutoff.
 Another application would be to push the system conformation away
 from the reference structure, by using negative force constants.
 Therefore the reference structure should be fitted to the simulation
 structure (or the other way around) before calculating the position
 differences.

 Then you have to derive a force that is the derivative of the RMSD
 with respect to the positions. This may be difficult, since you have
 the superposition step in between.  What you could do straight away is
 move from normal RMSD to distance-based RMSD, in which case the this
 has been implemented using distance restraints. You would use genrestr
 to generate the additional topology input, then determine a suitable
 force constant and Bob's your uncle.

 Cheers.

 Thanks in advance for your help,
 Sam


 Mark Abraham wrote:
 Sam Moors wrote:
 Hi gmx users/developers,

 I would like to do a molecular dynamics simulation with a
 restraint on
 the backbone RMS deviation from a reference structure.
 Does anybody know if this is possible?

 How about position restraints only on the backbone? Same effect.


 Not exactly as you describe, but you should read the section in
 chapter
 4 of the manual and see for yourself.

 If yes, could you explain how to do it?
 If no, what would be the easiest way to implement this in gromacs?

 It could be done, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] .trr forces into VMD

2009-05-19 Thread Matteus Lindgren
Hi all

 

I am looking for a way to import forces from a gromacs run into VMD for
analysis. From a mdrun –rerun I have forces in a .trr file but VMD only
reads the coordinates. Can you think of any way to get the forces into vmd
instead of the coordinates?

 

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[gmx-users] Re: MD with RMSD restraint

2009-05-19 Thread Sam Moors

Hi David,

Thanks for your suggestion.
However, I have a problem with the use of distance restraints in gromacs. As 
described in the manual a restraint potential is applied to each pair of atoms

separately. Instead, I would like the restraint potential to depend on the
root mean square of pair distance deviations, i.e. distance-based RMSD as you
suggest.
Maybe I can use the averaging over multiple pairs facility, If I change the
averaging function (power 2 instead of 6) ?

Thanks again,
Sam



Sam Moors wrote:

Hi,

Position restraints do not allow me to do what I want.
For instance, I want to allow the system to freely explore the
conformational space within a certain RMSD range, but not evolve beyond
a specified RMSD cutoff.
Another application would be to push the system conformation away from
the reference structure, by using negative force constants.
Therefore the reference structure should be fitted to the simulation
structure (or the other way around) before calculating the position
differences.


Then you have to derive a force that is the derivative of the RMSD with
respect to the positions. This may be difficult, since you have the
superposition step in between.  What you could do straight away is move
from normal RMSD to distance-based RMSD, in which case the this has been
implemented using distance restraints. You would use genrestr to
generate the additional topology input, then determine a suitable force
constant and Bob's your uncle.

Cheers.


Thanks in advance for your help,
Sam



Mark Abraham wrote:

Sam Moors wrote:

Hi gmx users/developers,

I would like to do a molecular dynamics simulation with a restraint on
the backbone RMS deviation from a reference structure.
Does anybody know if this is possible?


How about position restraints only on the backbone? Same effect.



Not exactly as you describe, but you should read the section in chapter
4 of the manual and see for yourself.


If yes, could you explain how to do it?
If no, what would be the easiest way to implement this in gromacs?


It could be done, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MD with RMSD restraint

2009-05-19 Thread Marc Baaden

Hi,

Sorry to pull a self-publicity plug, but you could use our MDDriver 
library [1] to implement whatever constraint you want as long as it 
can be calculated from the system positions and translates into
forces to be applied to your system.
Such a 'scripting' application is very briefly hinted at in the
corresponding paper [2].

Cheers,
Marc

[1] http://www.baaden.ibpc.fr/projects/mddriver/
[2] http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/jcc.21235

 David van der Spoel said:
  Sam Moors wrote:
   Hi,
   
   Position restraints do not allow me to do what I want.
   For instance, I want to allow the system to freely explore the 
   conformational space within a certain RMSD range, but not evolve beyond 
   a specified RMSD cutoff.
   Another application would be to push the system conformation away from 
   the reference structure, by using negative force constants.
   Therefore the reference structure should be fitted to the simulation 
   structure (or the other way around) before calculating the position 
   differences.
  
  Then you have to derive a force that is the derivative of the RMSD with 
  respect to the positions. This may be difficult, since you have the 
  superposition step in between.  What you could do straight away is move 
  from normal RMSD to distance-based RMSD, in which case the this has been 
  implemented using distance restraints. You would use genrestr to 
  generate the additional topology input, then determine a suitable force 
  constant and Bob's your uncle.
  
  Cheers.
   
   Thanks in advance for your help,
   Sam
   
  
   Mark Abraham wrote:
   Sam Moors wrote:
   Hi gmx users/developers,
  
   I would like to do a molecular dynamics simulation with a restraint on
   the backbone RMS deviation from a reference structure.
   Does anybody know if this is possible?
  
   How about position restraints only on the backbone? Same effect.
  
  
   Not exactly as you describe, but you should read the section in chapter
   4 of the manual and see for yourself.
  
   If yes, could you explain how to do it?
   If no, what would be the easiest way to implement this in gromacs?
  
   It could be done, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
  
   Mark
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[gmx-users] Hello: Forcefield and potentials for DNA-zinc finger complex

2009-05-19 Thread Nehme El Hachem

Hello,

I have a DNA-Zinc finger complex. What are the suitable forcefields  
for that type of complexes (the zinc ion is coordinated to 4  
deprotonated cysteines)?
I need to do some molecular minimization and dynamics including the  
nucelic acid sequence.

Looking for some help.

Thank you.

Nehme

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[gmx-users] removal of water from hydrophobic core of lipid

2009-05-19 Thread nitu sharma
 Dear all

 I want remove water molecules from hydrophobic core of
lipid by using  script Keepbyz.pl by (chris neale) . I want to know  basis
of deciding uprez and lowrez variables . I mean to say how can I decide
which value of uprez and lowrez is suitable for my system protein embedded
in lipid bilayer.

If anyone did these things please help me in solving this problem.

I will be really thankful for that.

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Re: [gmx-users] removal of water from hydrophobic core of lipid

2009-05-19 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nitu sharma wrote:

 Dear all

 I want remove water molecules from hydrophobic core of 
lipid by using  script Keepbyz.pl by (chris neale) . I want to know  
basis of deciding uprez and lowrez variables . I mean to say how can I 
decide which value of uprez and lowrez is suitable for my system protein 
embedded in lipid bilayer.




The bounds of the hydrophobic core (i.e., the start of the acyl chains) are 
probably a reasonable place to start.


-Justin


If anyone did these things please help me in solving this problem.

I will be really thankful for that.

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Re: [gmx-users] Hello: Forcefield and potentials for DNA-zinc finger complex

2009-05-19 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Nehme El Hachem wrote:

Hello,

I have a DNA-Zinc finger complex. What are the suitable forcefields for 
that type of complexes (the zinc ion is coordinated to 4 deprotonated 
cysteines)?


The first step is probably to search in the literature for anything similar. 
Has anyone attempted such work?  Is there precedent for making the force field 
choice?


The only force field I know of that contains deprotonated cysteine that has also 
been implemented in Gromacs is AMBER (residue CYM).  The ffamber ports are 
available for download online.


Another thing to consider is whether any MM force field will adequately describe 
your coordination complex, i.e.:


http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Exotic_Species

-Justin

I need to do some molecular minimization and dynamics including the 
nucelic acid sequence.

Looking for some help.

Thank you.

Nehme

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Re: [gmx-users] Hello: Forcefield and potentials for DNA-zinc finger complex

2009-05-19 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

Have a look at

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Parameterization
and
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Exotic_Species

Next to that, also consider that you are talking about a site with -2
formal charge (ZnS4)2-. How likely is that? From QM studies, it seems
much more likely that there are 1 or 2 protons associated with the
cluster. If you manage to model that properly, let me know; I'd be
interested in that.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Nehme El Hachem n...@aub.edu.lb wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a DNA-Zinc finger complex. What are the suitable forcefields for that
 type of complexes (the zinc ion is coordinated to 4 deprotonated cysteines)?
 I need to do some molecular minimization and dynamics including the nucelic
 acid sequence.
 Looking for some help.

 Thank you.

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[gmx-users] Selection of force field

2009-05-19 Thread ANINDITA GAYEN












Dear all,
 I want to study glycolipid-protein interaction using united atom 
GROMACS force field.
For lipid simulation we need lipid.itp, which is a mixture of lipid (
Berger) and GROMOS (ffgmxnb) parameters. From an earlier post in
gmx-user list, i have come to know that “the ffgmx force field
should not be used for production runs. To use popc in simulation,
try to dig up popc parameters for a current force field (like
ffG43a1)”.
Now, as in FF.dat, ffG43a1 is the
GROMOS96 force field and ffG43b1, ffG43a2, ffG45a3, ffG53a5 
ffG53a6 are the further modifications. For lipid-protein simulation,
lots of people are shown to use ffG43a1 parameters. Now, my question
is that, if ffG43a1 is better than the other ffG parameters? if
not which one should be more appropriate for my glycolipid-protein
system (containing sugar moiety)?
Looking forward for any reply.
thanks in advance,


Ms. Anindita Gayen

C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhyay
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Re: [gmx-users] .trr forces into VMD

2009-05-19 Thread Mark Abraham

Matteus Lindgren wrote:

Hi all

 

I am looking for a way to import forces from a gromacs run into VMD for 
analysis. From a mdrun –rerun I have forces in a .trr file but VMD only 
reads the coordinates. Can you think of any way to get the forces into 
vmd instead of the coordinates?


If VMD will only import positions from .trr files, then you could write 
a forces-only .trr file and through a code hack or hex edit, force the 
frame header to describe them as positions. Or, write a new VMD plugin. 
Or, modify the VMD source suitably.


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[gmx-users] Test suit failures

2009-05-19 Thread Bert
Dear gmx-users,

I have done a test using test suit 4.0.4, and I got some failures as follows.

All 16 simple tests PASSED
FAILED. Check files in aminoacids
FAILED. Check files in field
FAILED. Check files in tip4p
FAILED. Check files in water
4 out of 14 complex tests FAILED
FAILED. Check files in kernel020
FAILED. Check files in kernel120
FAILED. Check files in kernel121
FAILED. Check files in kernel122
FAILED. Check files in kernel123
FAILED. Check files in kernel124
FAILED. Check files in kernel220
FAILED. Check files in kernel221
FAILED. Check files in kernel222
FAILED. Check files in kernel223
FAILED. Check files in kernel224
FAILED. Check files in kernel320
FAILED. Check files in kernel321
FAILED. Check files in kernel322
FAILED. Check files in kernel323
FAILED. Check files in kernel324
16 out of 63 kernel tests FAILED
All 45 pdb2gmx tests PASSED

My gcc version is 4.1.1, and both gmx 4.0.4 and 4.0.5 get exactly the
same failures on my Xeon 8 core based linux. For example, in
/kernel/kernel020

checkpot.out gives:
--
comparing energy file reference_s.edr and ener.edr

There are 39 terms in the energy files

There are 12 terms to compare in the energy files

LJ-14step   0:  -63.1209,  step   0:  6.50742
Potentialstep   0:  -321.601,  step   0: -251.972

Files read succesfully
--
checkvir.out gives:
--
comparing energy file reference_s.edr and ener.edr

There are 39 terms in the energy files

There are 25 terms to compare in the energy files

LJ-14step   0:  -63.1209,  step   0:  6.50742
Potentialstep   0:  -321.601,  step   0: -251.972
Kinetic En.  step   0:   15.0135,  step   0:  29.0739
Total Energy step   0:  -306.588,  step   0: -222.898
Temperature  step   0:   1.93226,  step   0:  3.74185
Pressure (bar)   step   0:  -3095.37,  step   0: -2497.79
Vir-XX   step   0:   1127.45,  step   0:  1075.85
Vir-XY   step   0:63.524,  step   0:  21.7761
Vir-XZ   step   0:  -264.813,  step   0: -260.354
Vir-YX   step   0:   63.5241,  step   0:   21.777
Vir-YY   step   0:   803.252,  step   0:  581.702
Vir-ZX   step   0:  -264.813,  step   0: -260.354
Vir-ZZ   step   0:   321.207,  step   0:  176.573

Files read succesfully

The deviations are obvious. Any suggestion would be appreciate. Thank you.

Best Regards,
Bert
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Re: [gmx-users] Test suit failures

2009-05-19 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Bert wrote:

Dear gmx-users,

I have done a test using test suit 4.0.4, and I got some failures as follows.

All 16 simple tests PASSED
FAILED. Check files in aminoacids
FAILED. Check files in field
FAILED. Check files in tip4p
FAILED. Check files in water
4 out of 14 complex tests FAILED


Check the files in these directories to see if the differences are acceptable, 
as explained on the wiki:


http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Test-Set

snip


16 out of 63 kernel tests FAILED


These failures are a known issue and a bugzilla has been filed.  They affect 
Buckingham interactions.



All 45 pdb2gmx tests PASSED

My gcc version is 4.1.1, and both gmx 4.0.4 and 4.0.5 get exactly the
same failures on my Xeon 8 core based linux. For example, in
/kernel/kernel020



As warned on the Gromacs site: WARNING: do not use the gcc 4.1.x set of 
compilers. They are broken. These compilers come with recent Linux distrubutions 
like Fedora 5/6 etc.


Users have reported non-functional or improperly-functioning executables 
produced by the 4.1.x series.


-Justin


checkpot.out gives:
--
comparing energy file reference_s.edr and ener.edr

There are 39 terms in the energy files

There are 12 terms to compare in the energy files

LJ-14step   0:  -63.1209,  step   0:  6.50742
Potentialstep   0:  -321.601,  step   0: -251.972

Files read succesfully
--
checkvir.out gives:
--
comparing energy file reference_s.edr and ener.edr

There are 39 terms in the energy files

There are 25 terms to compare in the energy files

LJ-14step   0:  -63.1209,  step   0:  6.50742
Potentialstep   0:  -321.601,  step   0: -251.972
Kinetic En.  step   0:   15.0135,  step   0:  29.0739
Total Energy step   0:  -306.588,  step   0: -222.898
Temperature  step   0:   1.93226,  step   0:  3.74185
Pressure (bar)   step   0:  -3095.37,  step   0: -2497.79
Vir-XX   step   0:   1127.45,  step   0:  1075.85
Vir-XY   step   0:63.524,  step   0:  21.7761
Vir-XZ   step   0:  -264.813,  step   0: -260.354
Vir-YX   step   0:   63.5241,  step   0:   21.777
Vir-YY   step   0:   803.252,  step   0:  581.702
Vir-ZX   step   0:  -264.813,  step   0: -260.354
Vir-ZZ   step   0:   321.207,  step   0:  176.573

Files read succesfully

The deviations are obvious. Any suggestion would be appreciate. Thank you.

Best Regards,
Bert
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RE: [gmx-users] .trr forces into VMD

2009-05-19 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

g_traj can write |f| or components of f in the b-factor field of a pdb file.
I guess VMD can read and display that.
I don't know if that will fulfill your needs.

Berk

 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:19:59 +1000
 From: mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] .trr forces into VMD
 
 Matteus Lindgren wrote:
  Hi all
  
   
  
  I am looking for a way to import forces from a gromacs run into VMD for 
  analysis. From a mdrun –rerun I have forces in a .trr file but VMD only 
  reads the coordinates. Can you think of any way to get the forces into 
  vmd instead of the coordinates?
 
 If VMD will only import positions from .trr files, then you could write 
 a forces-only .trr file and through a code hack or hex edit, force the 
 frame header to describe them as positions. Or, write a new VMD plugin. 
 Or, modify the VMD source suitably.
 
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[gmx-users] how to apply shear force

2009-05-19 Thread He, Yang
Hi all users,

I am wondering how I can apply the shear force into the gromacs .Does anyone 
has such experoence about that?

Really appreciate any suggestions.

Yang
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RE: [gmx-users] how to apply shear force

2009-05-19 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

Read the pdf manual, it has an index entry for shear.

Berk

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 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:10:24 +
 Subject: [gmx-users] how to apply shear force
 
 Hi all users,
 
 I am wondering how I can apply the shear force into the gromacs .Does anyone 
 has such experoence about that?
 
 Really appreciate any suggestions.
 
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[gmx-users] FudgeQQ parameter with TraPPE FF and OPLS-AA

2009-05-19 Thread Rasmus Termo Lundsgaard




Dear GMX-users.

I'm trying to do free energy calculations for calculations of
partitions coefficients.

My normal defaults section of TraPPE topologies are:

; nbfunc comb-rule gen-pairs fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
   1 3  no 
0.5 0.5

because TraPPE don't use 1-4 LJ interaction, and I have read that
FudgeQQ always apply even though gen-pairs=no.

Now I want to do my calculations with OPLS-AA for the solute molecule,
and TraPPE-UA for the solvent, so my default section must now be:

; nbfunc comb-rule gen-pairs fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
   1 2   yes 
0.5 0.5

, but the problem arises when I have for instance Ethanol in my
solvent, then gen-pair will calculate LJ 1-4 interactions for the
Ethanol as well.

But if I in the .top for the ethanol pair write:

[ pairs ]
; ai aj funct c6 c12
 1  4  1 0.00e+00 0.00e+00;

then will the 1-4 LJ be 0, but the 1-4 Coulomb will still be calculated
- right??

Also, can I check all the interaction parameters calculated and
inserted by grompp?

Best regards.
Rasmus Lundsgaard


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Re: [gmx-users] How can i know if the protein swell during the MD simulation?

2009-05-19 Thread Marius Retegan
sovent accesible surface area?

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.comwrote:

 stretching != swelling, e.g.

 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Bhanu bhanui...@gmail.com wrote:
  How about checking radius of gyration???
 
  2009/5/18 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
 
  Hi,
 
  Well, I think 'swelling' is unambiguously, though roughly, defined as
  'growing larger', which suggests that you'd have to look for an
  increase in volume. But how to do that, how to define the volume of
  the protein is still a matter of setting your criteria and finding the
  right tools to assess these. Not the simplest thing...
 
  Cheers,
 
  Tsjerk
 
  On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
  wrote:
  
  
   Chih-Ying Lin wrote:
  
   HI
   How can i know if the protein swell during the MD simulation?
  
   What are those indications to see the swollen protein?
  
  
   How do you define the term swelling?  This again sounds like another
   issue
   on defining your own criteria for the expected behavior and reading
 the
   manual about available analysis tools.
  
   -Justin
  
   Thank you
   Lin
  
  
  
  
 
  
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[gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

2009-05-19 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
Hi All,

Is there anyone who is running gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca machine? If
yes, I will be appreciated if he/she can tell me how to run gmx on this
facility. I either get error messages which says either the executable or
the topology file can not be found.

Regards,

 

Payman 

 

 

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Re: [gmx-users] How can i know if the protein swell during the MD simulation?

2009-05-19 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Well, why didn't I think of that? Maybe because flattening will also
increase the SAS, or (partial) unfolding, or opening of two domains...

:)

Tsjerk

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Marius Retegan
marius.s.rete...@gmail.com wrote:
 sovent accesible surface area?

 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 stretching != swelling, e.g.

 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Bhanu bhanui...@gmail.com wrote:
  How about checking radius of gyration???
 
  2009/5/18 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
 
  Hi,
 
  Well, I think 'swelling' is unambiguously, though roughly, defined as
  'growing larger', which suggests that you'd have to look for an
  increase in volume. But how to do that, how to define the volume of
  the protein is still a matter of setting your criteria and finding the
  right tools to assess these. Not the simplest thing...
 
  Cheers,
 
  Tsjerk
 
  On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
  wrote:
  
  
   Chih-Ying Lin wrote:
  
   HI
   How can i know if the protein swell during the MD simulation?
  
   What are those indications to see the swollen protein?
  
  
   How do you define the term swelling?  This again sounds like
   another
   issue
   on defining your own criteria for the expected behavior and reading
   the
   manual about available analysis tools.
  
   -Justin
  
   Thank you
   Lin
  
  
  
  
   
  
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Re: [gmx-users] shift function for vdwtype and density

2009-05-19 Thread Yanmei Song
Dear David:

Thank you so much for the valuable information.

Our conclusion in the above paper is to use PME for Coulomb and not shift
Van der Waals

I have read the paper you mentioned and did not find how you treated the
VdW. Have you done some work on the cut off method for vdw? Since I used PME
for Coulomb in my system. I am still confusing why not shift for vdw.

 I would also recommend to use TIP4P rather than TIP5P, as Jorgensen uses
TIP4P for all his parameterizations.

I have read Jorgensen's paper for the OPLS and realized that the TIP4P would
be the first choice for combining with OPLS. However my concern is that
TIP4P model is not as good as TIP5P in terms of diffusion constant and
viscosity which are extremely important for my purpose.

I also have compared SPC and TIP4P and turn out that SPC can give a better
result for my system. Unfornately SPC has a very bad viscosity as TIP4P. So
I am trying TIP5P.

Do you think OPLS+ TIP5P can cause serious problem or horrible artifacts. If
you can suggest some literatures on this that would be great.

I really appericate all your help!

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:37 PM, David van der Spoel
sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sewrote:

 Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



 Yanmei Song wrote:

 Dear Justin:

 Yes and I tried dispersion correction and it gives a larger density than
 I expected.  The density of the polymer by vdwtype=shift is more close to
 the experimental value. Then your suggestion would be to choose the
 vdwtype=cut-off under this condition even if it result in larger density?
 Thank you so much!


 No.  My suggestion is to do your homework, as Mark originally said, and as
 I echoed in my last mail.  Read about the water model, its expected
 performance under different simulation parameters, and evaluate what you
 want to do once you have done this background work.  If you have done a
 thorough literature review, there is no one else that can make a choice for
 you; decide how to handle your system based on what you read.

  Actually this is not so easy. Jorgensen has never published the way he
 treats cut-offs, but he was friendly enough to let me know, so we have
 actually done it:
 David van der Spoel and Paul J. van Maaren: The origin of layer structure
 artifacts in simulation of liquid water J. Chem. Theor. Comp. 2 pp. 1-11
 (2006)

 If you look in the appendix you can find the one and only



 OPLS. However This is not to be recommended since the effect is very
 different for MD and MC (what Jorgensen uses). In MD the official method
 will give horrible artifacts. In other words, you have to use something
 better. Our conclusion in the above paper is to use PME for Coulomb and not
 shift Van der Waals. I would also recommend to use TIP4P rather than TIP5P,
 as Jorgensen uses TIP4P for all his parameterizations.




  -Justin

  On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear Justin:

Yes. Before I do the water+polymer, I did both the bulk systems
separately.  The density of TIP5P I mentioned earlier is the
results for pure water bulk system. My concern is that if it is
reasonable that the property of the system changes with
different mdp conditions? Since when I did the bulk water and
bulk polymer system, I found the densities change with different
cutoff and vdwtype conditions. Is this a artifact? Or the larger
cutoff, the more accurate result we can get?


Every parameter you specify will affect the results you see.  I
agree with Mark - look up the original reference for TIP5P and see
what parameters are recommended.  Also read the subsequent
literature that has used TIP5P to see what modifications
(electrostatic treatment, vdW treatment, etc) are appropriate or
even more accurate.

Also realize that using vdwtype = shift may not be the best
solution.  I only suggested as a guess for something to try back
when you were getting bizarre results with your polymer.  Have you
ever tried dispersion correction when using vdwtype = cutoff?  I
routinely use such a setup and have never seen any really bizarre
behavior.

-Justin

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jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



   Yanmei Song wrote:

   Dear Mark:

   Thanks for your answer. I have to use the same mdp file
for both
   water and another polymer molecules in my system, right?
 Then
   if the shift function works well for the polymer, I can
not get
   the best result for TIP5P?  The density of TIP5P is
 different
   from the literature value of 982. Thanks!


   So your system is water + polymer?  In that case, you have an
added
   variable - the 

Re: [gmx-users] Re: MD with RMSD restraint

2009-05-19 Thread David van der Spoel

Sam Moors wrote:

Hi David,

Thanks for your suggestion.
However, I have a problem with the use of distance restraints in 
gromacs. As described in the manual a restraint potential is applied to 
each pair of atoms

separately. Instead, I would like the restraint potential to depend on the
root mean square of pair distance deviations, i.e. distance-based RMSD 
as you

suggest.
Maybe I can use the averaging over multiple pairs facility, If I 
change the

averaging function (power 2 instead of 6) ?

If the averaging is purely harmonic there is no difference. For this, 
turn off r^-3 averaging etc. in the mdp file.




Thanks again,
Sam



Sam Moors wrote:

Hi,

Position restraints do not allow me to do what I want.
For instance, I want to allow the system to freely explore the
conformational space within a certain RMSD range, but not evolve beyond
a specified RMSD cutoff.
Another application would be to push the system conformation away from
the reference structure, by using negative force constants.
Therefore the reference structure should be fitted to the simulation
structure (or the other way around) before calculating the position
differences.


Then you have to derive a force that is the derivative of the RMSD with
respect to the positions. This may be difficult, since you have the
superposition step in between.  What you could do straight away is move
from normal RMSD to distance-based RMSD, in which case the this has been
implemented using distance restraints. You would use genrestr to
generate the additional topology input, then determine a suitable force
constant and Bob's your uncle.

Cheers.


Thanks in advance for your help,
Sam



Mark Abraham wrote:

Sam Moors wrote:

Hi gmx users/developers,

I would like to do a molecular dynamics simulation with a 
restraint on

the backbone RMS deviation from a reference structure.
Does anybody know if this is possible?


How about position restraints only on the backbone? Same effect.



Not exactly as you describe, but you should read the section in 
chapter

4 of the manual and see for yourself.


If yes, could you explain how to do it?
If no, what would be the easiest way to implement this in gromacs?


It could be done, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

2009-05-19 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Payman,

That is probably not the only grid facility on which Gromacs may be
run and it would be helpful if you could give specifications of it
(WMS software e.g.), which could give you more response. Also, it
would be helpful if you'd be able to give more information regarding
the output. Then you'd also have to ask the question whether your
problem is grid related or gromacs related. In the former case you'd
better consult support from the facility you're trying to use.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Payman Pirzadeh ppirz...@ucalgary.ca wrote:
 Hi All,

 Is there anyone who is running gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca machine? If
 yes, I will be appreciated if he/she can tell me how to run gmx on this
 facility. I either get error messages which says either the executable or
 the topology file can not be found.

 Regards,



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RE: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

2009-05-19 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
Dear Tsjerk,
Thanks for your e-mail. The message that cluster sends is:

Running on 4 processors.
Starting run at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that
./global/home/pirzadeh/gromacs-4.0.4/bin/mdrun_d is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that -s is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that npttest is a
command line argument for the program.
Missing: program name
Program -path either does not exist, is not
executable, or is an erroneous argument to mpirun.
Job finished at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009

The message that GROMACS has in log file is:

Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: gmxfio.c, line: 706

Can not open file:
topol.tpr

This is while I have the topology file in the same folder.

Payman




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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

Hi Payman,

That is probably not the only grid facility on which Gromacs may be
run and it would be helpful if you could give specifications of it
(WMS software e.g.), which could give you more response. Also, it
would be helpful if you'd be able to give more information regarding
the output. Then you'd also have to ask the question whether your
problem is grid related or gromacs related. In the former case you'd
better consult support from the facility you're trying to use.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Payman Pirzadeh ppirz...@ucalgary.ca
wrote:
 Hi All,

 Is there anyone who is running gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca machine? If
 yes, I will be appreciated if he/she can tell me how to run gmx on this
 facility. I either get error messages which says either the executable or
 the topology file can not be found.

 Regards,



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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

2009-05-19 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Tsjerk,
Thanks for your e-mail. The message that cluster sends is:

Running on 4 processors.
Starting run at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that
./global/home/pirzadeh/gromacs-4.0.4/bin/mdrun_d is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that -s is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that npttest is a
command line argument for the program.
Missing: program name
Program -path either does not exist, is not
executable, or is an erroneous argument to mpirun.
Job finished at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009

The message that GROMACS has in log file is:

Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: gmxfio.c, line: 706

Can not open file:
topol.tpr

This is while I have the topology file in the same folder.



It might be useful to post the script you're using to submit the job.  There's 
something (or several things) fundamentally wrong.  Your path points to Gromacs 
version 4.0.4, but the executable that's being called is version 3.3.1.


-Justin


Payman




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Sent: May 19, 2009 12:25 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

Hi Payman,

That is probably not the only grid facility on which Gromacs may be
run and it would be helpful if you could give specifications of it
(WMS software e.g.), which could give you more response. Also, it
would be helpful if you'd be able to give more information regarding
the output. Then you'd also have to ask the question whether your
problem is grid related or gromacs related. In the former case you'd
better consult support from the facility you're trying to use.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Payman Pirzadeh ppirz...@ucalgary.ca
wrote:

Hi All,

Is there anyone who is running gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca machine? If
yes, I will be appreciated if he/she can tell me how to run gmx on this
facility. I either get error messages which says either the executable or
the topology file can not be found.

Regards,



Payman





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Re: [gmx-users] shift function for vdwtype and density

2009-05-19 Thread Yanmei Song
Dear all:

This is the mdp I just used for the system. The funny thing is after a 8ns
simulation I got a very high pressure and temperature:

 Temperature   343.437
Pressure (bar)   45.782

I also did another run with removing the vdw_switch in mdp and keep all
other condition unchanged.  I got good result.

The following is my mdp:

cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all_bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.004   ; ps !
nsteps  =  2000   ; total 8ns.
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  5
nstvout =  5
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  5000
nstenergy   =  5000
nstxtcout   =  25000
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
pbc =  xyz
coulombtype =  PME
vdwtype =  Shift
rvdw_switch =  0.8
rlist   =  1.2
rcoulomb=  1.2
rvdw=  1.0
fourierspacing  =  0.12
pme_order   =  4
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tc_grps =  PDM
tau_t   =  0.1
ref_t   =  300
; Energy monitoring
energygrps  =  PDM
; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
Pcoupl  =  berendsen
pcoupltype  =  isotropic
;pc-grps=  PDM
tau_p   =  1.0


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Yanmei Song yson...@asu.edu wrote:

 Dear David:

 Thank you so much for the valuable information.

 Our conclusion in the above paper is to use PME for Coulomb and not shift
 Van der Waals

 I have read the paper you mentioned and did not find how you treated the
 VdW. Have you done some work on the cut off method for vdw? Since I used PME
 for Coulomb in my system. I am still confusing why not shift for vdw.

  I would also recommend to use TIP4P rather than TIP5P, as Jorgensen uses
 TIP4P for all his parameterizations.

 I have read Jorgensen's paper for the OPLS and realized that the TIP4P
 would be the first choice for combining with OPLS. However my concern is
 that TIP4P model is not as good as TIP5P in terms of diffusion constant and
 viscosity which are extremely important for my purpose.

 I also have compared SPC and TIP4P and turn out that SPC can give a better
 result for my system. Unfornately SPC has a very bad viscosity as TIP4P. So
 I am trying TIP5P.

 Do you think OPLS+ TIP5P can cause serious problem or horrible artifacts.
 If you can suggest some literatures on this that would be great.

 I really appericate all your help!

 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:37 PM, David van der Spoel 
 sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:

 Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



 Yanmei Song wrote:

 Dear Justin:

 Yes and I tried dispersion correction and it gives a larger density than
 I expected.  The density of the polymer by vdwtype=shift is more close to
 the experimental value. Then your suggestion would be to choose the
 vdwtype=cut-off under this condition even if it result in larger density?
 Thank you so much!


 No.  My suggestion is to do your homework, as Mark originally said, and
 as I echoed in my last mail.  Read about the water model, its expected
 performance under different simulation parameters, and evaluate what you
 want to do once you have done this background work.  If you have done a
 thorough literature review, there is no one else that can make a choice for
 you; decide how to handle your system based on what you read.

  Actually this is not so easy. Jorgensen has never published the way he
 treats cut-offs, but he was friendly enough to let me know, so we have
 actually done it:
 David van der Spoel and Paul J. van Maaren: The origin of layer structure
 artifacts in simulation of liquid water J. Chem. Theor. Comp. 2 pp. 1-11
 (2006)

 If you look in the appendix you can find the one and only



 OPLS. However This is not to be recommended since the effect is very
 different for MD and MC (what Jorgensen uses). In MD the official method
 will give horrible artifacts. In other words, you have to use something
 better. Our conclusion in the above paper is to use PME for Coulomb and not
 shift Van der Waals. I would also recommend to use TIP4P rather than TIP5P,
 as Jorgensen uses TIP4P for all his parameterizations.




  -Justin

  On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear Justin:

Yes. Before I do the water+polymer, I did both the bulk systems
separately.  The density of TIP5P I mentioned earlier is the
results for pure water bulk system. My concern is that if it is
reasonable that the property of the system changes with
different mdp conditions? Since when I did the bulk water and
bulk polymer system, I found the densities change with different
cutoff and vdwtype conditions. Is this a artifact? Or the larger
  

RE: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

2009-05-19 Thread Payman Pirzadeh
Hi Justin,
Following is the script I use. But remember several points:
1. I compiled the gmx with double precision and did not rename the code to
mpi. I kept whatever was produced with _d suffix.
2. I use the same script for other codes and they work (I am using other MD
code for special purposes and a QM code as well).
3. This script follows the guidelines of glacier as well. It is available
online at http://www.westgrid.ca/support/quickstart/glacier

#!/bin/bash
#PBS -S /bin/bash

# Torque script for running an MPI program pn on glacier
# 2005-05-26 DSP

# This presumes code compiled with the Intel compiler.
# For example:

# /global/software/mpich-1.2.5.2/ssh/bin/mpif90 pn.f -o pn

#PBS -N sixsite-test
#PBS -l walltime=240:00:00
#PBS -l nodes=2:ppn=2
#PBS -l qos=parallel

MPIRUN=/global/software/mpich-1.2.5.2/ssh/bin/mpirun

cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR
echo Current working directory is `pwd`

echo Node file: $PBS_NODEFILE :
echo -
cat $PBS_NODEFILE
echo -
NUM_PROCS=`/bin/awk 'END {print NR}' $PBS_NODEFILE`
echo Running on $NUM_PROCS processors.

echo Starting run at: `date`
${MPIRUN} -np $NUM_PROCS -machinefile $PBS_NODEFILE -path
./global/home/pirzadeh/gromacs-4.0.4/bin/mdrun_d -deffnm npttest
echo Job finished at: `date`





Payman





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On Behalf Of Payman Pirzadeh
Sent: May 19, 2009 12:36 PM
To: 'Discussion list for GROMACS users'
Subject: RE: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

Dear Tsjerk,
Thanks for your e-mail. The message that cluster sends is:

Running on 4 processors.
Starting run at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that
./global/home/pirzadeh/gromacs-4.0.4/bin/mdrun_d is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that -s is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that npttest is a
command line argument for the program.
Missing: program name
Program -path either does not exist, is not
executable, or is an erroneous argument to mpirun.
Job finished at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009

The message that GROMACS has in log file is:

Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: gmxfio.c, line: 706

Can not open file:
topol.tpr

This is while I have the topology file in the same folder.

Payman




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From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of Tsjerk Wassenaar
Sent: May 19, 2009 12:25 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

Hi Payman,

That is probably not the only grid facility on which Gromacs may be
run and it would be helpful if you could give specifications of it
(WMS software e.g.), which could give you more response. Also, it
would be helpful if you'd be able to give more information regarding
the output. Then you'd also have to ask the question whether your
problem is grid related or gromacs related. In the former case you'd
better consult support from the facility you're trying to use.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Payman Pirzadeh ppirz...@ucalgary.ca
wrote:
 Hi All,

 Is there anyone who is running gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca machine? If
 yes, I will be appreciated if he/she can tell me how to run gmx on this
 facility. I either get error messages which says either the executable or
 the topology file can not be found.

 Regards,



 Payman





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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

2009-05-19 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Payman Pirzadeh wrote:

Hi Justin,
Following is the script I use. But remember several points:
1. I compiled the gmx with double precision and did not rename the code to
mpi. I kept whatever was produced with _d suffix.


Whatever was produced does not inspire confidence.  You're sure that 
--enable-mpi was used during configuration, right?



2. I use the same script for other codes and they work (I am using other MD
code for special purposes and a QM code as well).


There has to be something different about this one.  If everything worked, we 
wouldn't be having this conversation :)



3. This script follows the guidelines of glacier as well. It is available
online at http://www.westgrid.ca/support/quickstart/glacier

#!/bin/bash
#PBS -S /bin/bash

# Torque script for running an MPI program pn on glacier
# 2005-05-26 DSP

# This presumes code compiled with the Intel compiler.
# For example:

# /global/software/mpich-1.2.5.2/ssh/bin/mpif90 pn.f -o pn

#PBS -N sixsite-test
#PBS -l walltime=240:00:00
#PBS -l nodes=2:ppn=2
#PBS -l qos=parallel

MPIRUN=/global/software/mpich-1.2.5.2/ssh/bin/mpirun

cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR
echo Current working directory is `pwd`

echo Node file: $PBS_NODEFILE :
echo -
cat $PBS_NODEFILE
echo -
NUM_PROCS=`/bin/awk 'END {print NR}' $PBS_NODEFILE`
echo Running on $NUM_PROCS processors.

echo Starting run at: `date`
${MPIRUN} -np $NUM_PROCS -machinefile $PBS_NODEFILE -path
./global/home/pirzadeh/gromacs-4.0.4/bin/mdrun_d -deffnm npttest
echo Job finished at: `date`




Based on the error messages, it appears that mpirun is interpreting everything 
you have specified as a command line argument (the call to mdrun_d, -deffnm, 
npttest).  We have the same version of mpirun on our cluster, and -path does not 
appear to be a valid argument.  Perhaps try something like:


MDRUN=/global/home/prizadeh/gromacs-4.0.4/bin/mdrun_d -deffnm npttest

${MPIRUN} -np $NUM_PROCS -machinefile $PBS_NODEFILE ${MDRUN}

-Justin





Payman





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From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of Payman Pirzadeh
Sent: May 19, 2009 12:36 PM
To: 'Discussion list for GROMACS users'
Subject: RE: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

Dear Tsjerk,
Thanks for your e-mail. The message that cluster sends is:

Running on 4 processors.
Starting run at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that
./global/home/pirzadeh/gromacs-4.0.4/bin/mdrun_d is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that -s is a
command line argument for the program.
Warning: Command line arguments for program should be given
after the program name.  Assuming that npttest is a
command line argument for the program.
Missing: program name
Program -path either does not exist, is not
executable, or is an erroneous argument to mpirun.
Job finished at: Sat May 16 17:13:28 PDT 2009

The message that GROMACS has in log file is:

Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: gmxfio.c, line: 706

Can not open file:
topol.tpr

This is while I have the topology file in the same folder.

Payman




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From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
On Behalf Of Tsjerk Wassenaar
Sent: May 19, 2009 12:25 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca

Hi Payman,

That is probably not the only grid facility on which Gromacs may be
run and it would be helpful if you could give specifications of it
(WMS software e.g.), which could give you more response. Also, it
would be helpful if you'd be able to give more information regarding
the output. Then you'd also have to ask the question whether your
problem is grid related or gromacs related. In the former case you'd
better consult support from the facility you're trying to use.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Payman Pirzadeh ppirz...@ucalgary.ca
wrote:

Hi All,

Is there anyone who is running gromacs on glacier.westgrid.ca machine? If
yes, I will be appreciated if he/she can tell me how to run gmx on this
facility. I either get error messages which says either the executable or
the topology file can not be found.

Regards,



Payman





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[gmx-users] dt = 0.002

2009-05-19 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I want to get the simulation results fater and want to set

the time step
dt  =  0.002


what is the upper limit of the time step dt ?


Thank you
Lin
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Re: [gmx-users] dt = 0.002

2009-05-19 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:



Hi
I want to get the simulation results fater and want to set

the time step
dt  =  0.002


what is the upper limit of the time step dt ?



Some textbook reading is probably in order here.  Also of interest are papers 
describing constraint algorithms.  Ultimately the timestep will be dependent 
upon energy conservation, choice of virtual sites, etc.  The manual will also 
provide some relevant information.


-Justin



Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] dt = 0.002

2009-05-19 Thread Joshua Adelman

Hi Lin,

I would suggest taking a look at the manual, specifically section 6.5  
(Removing Fastest Degrees of Freedom), and any general textbook on  
molecular simulation. Wanting faster results without having an  
understanding of the method is a good recipe for getting the wrong  
answer. There are physical and numerical reasons for the parameter  
choices and it would be good to understand those before proceeding  
further with molecular dynamics.


Best of luck,
Josh



On May 19, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Chih-Ying Lin wrote:




Hi
I want to get the simulation results fater and want to set

the time step
dt  =  0.002


what is the upper limit of the time step dt ?


Thank you
Lin
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[gmx-users] g_clustsize method

2009-05-19 Thread Jacob Spooner
I am planning on using g_clustsize to do some condensation analysis.  I looked 
at g_cluster and see that it has a number of method options including single 
linkage and jarvis patrick.  Is it true that g_clustsize has only the single 
linkage option? I took a look at the source code but this type of thing is not 
my strength.
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Re: [gmx-users] shift function for vdwtype and density

2009-05-19 Thread Mark Abraham

Yanmei Song wrote:

Dear all:

This is the mdp I just used for the system. The funny thing is after a 
8ns simulation I got a very high pressure and temperature:


 Temperature   343.437   
Pressure (bar)   45.782 

I also did another run with removing the vdw_switch in mdp and keep all 
other condition unchanged.  I got good result.


The following is my mdp:

cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  all_bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.004   ; ps !


I'd suspect that this value for dt is also not likely to have been used 
during parameterization.


Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] mdp file for local pressure

2009-05-19 Thread Cheong Wee Loong, Daniel
Is there a local pressure version of Gromacs 4?  I can only find Gromacs 
version 3.02 with local pressure.  If there is, could you tell me where to get 
it?  Thanks.



Daniel



From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On 
Behalf Of anirban polley
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:39 PM
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] mdp file for local pressure


---
Program grompp_mpi, VERSION 4.0.2_localpressure
Source code file: readir.c, line: 454

Fatal error:
Expected 2 elements for wall_atomtype, found 0
---

Could you please tell me where my fault is?
Thanks a lot in advance.
Anirban


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Re: [gmx-users] g_clustsize method

2009-05-19 Thread David van der Spoel

Jacob Spooner wrote:

I am planning on using g_clustsize to do some condensation analysis.  I looked 
at g_cluster and see that it has a number of method options including single 
linkage and jarvis patrick.  Is it true that g_clustsize has only the single 
linkage option? I took a look at the source code but this type of thing is not 
my strength.
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Molec. Biophys. group, Dept. of Cell  Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205. Fax: +4618511755.
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