[gmx-users] problem in running grompp

2009-06-07 Thread Samik Bhattacharya
hi
i am simulating a membrane protein in POPC bilayer and for that i am following 
justin's tutorial.it's a nice tutorial and is really helpful. but i'm facing 
some problems in running the grompp command. after the solvation when i am 
going to run grompp, it is generting an error as follows    
''Program grompp, VERSION 4.0.5
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 843

Fatal error:
Atomtype CA not found''

but  is not CA the main chain alpha carbon...why is not grompp taking CA then? 
i can't make out where the problem lies? i little help on this shall be very 
encouraging.
Thank You
Shamik




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Re: [gmx-users] Nonrepeatable results for gromacs 4.0.5

2009-06-07 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

For the record there is also the -reprod (reproducibility) that also  
turns off the dynamic FFTW plan optimization. With these options  
enabled you will lose a bit of performance, but should get binary  
identical runs even in parallel (as long as you use the same number of  
CPUs).


Cheers,

Erik


On Jun 7, 2009, at 9:20 AM, David van der Spoel wrote:


Jim Kress wrote:
I've been doing multiple runs using gromacs v 4.0.5 mdrun and a  
constant
topol.tpr input file.  Unfortunately, the results that I get in my  
md.log

differ from run to run.


This is due to dynamic load balancing. Due to fluctuations in the  
CPU usage (e.g. due to operating system) your load will vary on each  
CPU and gromacs will try to balance it. Hence you get numerical  
differences because in a computer (a+b)+c != a+(b+c), and ultimately  
the trajectories will diverge.


If you turn off dlb this should not happen. Please try it and report  
if you see the same effect without.



For example, Run 1
Started mdrun on node 0 Fri May 22 22:53:51 2009
  Step   Time Lambda
 00.00.0
  Energies (kJ/mol)
  G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14  
Coulomb-14
   1.95406e+021.04746e+024.97704e+014.13260e+01 
1.40158e+03
   LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total  
Energy
   2.60139e+03   -2.64656e+04   -2.20714e+044.03780e+03
-1.80336e+04

   Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
   3.03142e+02   -8.46977e+021.92470e-05
DD  step 9 load imb.: force 29.9%
At step 10 the performance loss due to force load imbalance is 8.6 %
NOTE: Turning on dynamic load balancing
DD  step 99  vol min/aver 0.731  load imb.: force  6.9%
  Step   Time Lambda
   1000.20.0
  Energies (kJ/mol)
  G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14  
Coulomb-14
   2.05310e+021.30129e+025.63474e+011.81814e+01 
1.44270e+03
   LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total  
Energy
   2.69491e+03   -2.69624e+04   -2.24148e+044.19456e+03
-1.82203e+04

   Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
   3.14910e+02   -5.19031e+021.76248e-05
DD  load balancing is limited by minimum cell size in dimension Y
DD  step 199  vol min/aver 0.766! load imb.: force 10.7%
  Step   Time Lambda
   2000.40.0
  Energies (kJ/mol)
  G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14  
Coulomb-14
   2.20550e+021.09068e+026.93319e+015.32511e+01 
1.43458e+03
   LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total  
Energy
   2.78241e+03   -2.70319e+04   -2.23627e+044.13455e+03
-1.82281e+04

   Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
   3.10405e+02   -5.01205e+021.70105e-05
DD  load balancing is limited by minimum cell size in dimension Y
DD  step 299  vol min/aver 0.750! load imb.: force  3.3%
  Step   Time Lambda
   3000.60.0
  Energies (kJ/mol)
  G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14  
Coulomb-14
   2.17474e+028.65489e+015.24995e+014.72592e+01 
1.44419e+03
   LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total  
Energy
   3.17643e+03   -2.72841e+04   -2.22597e+043.95024e+03
-1.83095e+04

   Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
   2.96568e+021.40098e+031.55861e-05
DD  step 399  vol min/aver 0.700  load imb.: force  5.9%
  Step   Time Lambda
   4000.80.0
  Energies (kJ/mol)
  G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14  
Coulomb-14
   2.43143e+029.93116e+017.16796e+014.63666e+01 
1.46722e+03
   LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total  
Energy
   2.84150e+03   -2.70065e+04   -2.22372e+044.05976e+03
-1.81775e+04

   Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
   3.04791e+022.48551e+021.61141e-05
DD  step 499  vol min/aver 0.678  load imb.: force  6.6%
  Step   Time Lambda
   5001.00.0
  Energies (kJ/mol)
  G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14  
Coulomb-14
   2.19638e+028.98359e+018.99946e+015.16612e+01 
1.46338e+03
   LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total  
Energy
   2.80267e+03   -2.68507e+04   -2.21335e+044.14195e+03
-1.79916e+04

   Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
   3.10961e+02   -1.17210e+021.71420e-05
DD  step 599  vol min/aver 0.678  load imb.: force  6.7%
  Step   Time Lambda
   6001.20.0
  Energies (kJ/mol)
  G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14  
Coulomb-14
   2.32938e+021.04322e+027.11343e+012.16046e+01 
1.45770e+03
   LJ (SR)  

[gmx-users] how to include Fe-S topology in .rtp file

2009-06-07 Thread amri ta
hi all...
 
I am simulating a protein with Fe-S cluster. What is the protocol for 
generating a .rtp file with Fe-S topology...As i am using ffG43a1 forcefield.. 
i searched FFG43a1bon.itp file for Fe-S bond, angle and dihedral type... but it 
is not there..what i should do?..
 
If anyone have the idea of the procedure..please outline me the procedure..
 
Thanks..
 
Amrita
Ph.D scholar,
Burdwan University.
 


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[gmx-users] about epsion_surface

2009-06-07 Thread lammps lammps
Dear,

I do not know where should I have to use the epsion_surface? The system
include a CG membrane, a charged macromolecule above the membrane and some
counterions ?  It is suitable to using this parameter epsilon_surface = 1?

It is appricated if some one tell me something about how to use this
parameter. Thanks in advance.

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[gmx-users] how to run with mpi?

2009-06-07 Thread Joseph Johnson

i have a small cluster of 3 computers, 1 master and 2 slaves, running Rocks 
4.2.1 and Gromacs 3.3.1.  Are there any good tutorials about how to use openmpi 
and Gromacs?  I'm rather new to this so any help would be amazing.  

Thank you :)

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Re: [gmx-users] Scaled 1-5 interactions

2009-06-07 Thread Borys Szefczyk
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 05:35:14PM +0200, Florian Dommert wrote:
> Glad to hear the my help works. Setting the LJ parameters zero for the
> should avoid a further contribution of the LJ part from the defined 1-5
> IA, since they are already present in the nonbonded part of the
> interaction types. Accoring to Chapter 5.3.4 of the manual, the [ pairs ]
> directive allows to add further nonbonded energy terms within a molecule.
> This is exactly the goal we want to achieve ;)

Ah, yes. You are right :-) I think, I've got finally the hang of all
these parameters.

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Re: [gmx-users] Scaled 1-5 interactions

2009-06-07 Thread Florian Dommert

* Borys Szefczyk  [2009-06-07 14:12:14 +0200]:


On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 02:06:56PM +0200, Florian Dommert wrote:

* David van der Spoel  [2009-06-06 08:06:26 +0200]:
The VDW may work, but not differently scaled 1-4 and 1-5 coulomb  
interactions.


Where is the matter if I have a [ pairs ] directive in the itp file like 
this :



[ pairs ]
; ai   aj  fu
  15   2  0.5 -0.11  0.13 0.30250  0.095865
  16   2  0.5 -0.11  0.13 0.30250  0.095865
.
.
.
.
;this is are nonbonded intramolecular IAs separated by more than theree 
bonds

 2   5   2   7.569   0.07200   0.02300   0.0   0.0
 2   6   2   7.569   0.07200   0.02300   0.0   0.0



I think this will work, but setting LJ parameters to zero will cancel
the interaction for these pairs. Is this what you intend to do?


Glad to hear the my help works. Setting the LJ parameters zero for the
should avoid a further contribution of the LJ part from the defined 1-5
IA, since they are already present in the nonbonded part of the
interaction types. Accoring to Chapter 5.3.4 of the manual, the [ pairs ]
directive allows to add further nonbonded energy terms within a molecule.
This is exactly the goal we want to achieve ;)

Cheers,

Flo



I did a simple test: I've defined an abstract molecule like this:
X-X-X-X-X
so that 1 and fourth atom are 0.4 nm apart, and 1 and fifth atom
are 0.5 nm apart. I've set all bonded and non-bonded interactions to
zero, Nexcl=3, gen-pairs=yes, fudgeQQ=1.0, fugdeLJ=1.0.

Then I have defined [pairs] like this:

[ pairs ]
   1 4 2   1.0   0.1  0.0215927   0.3250520.25
   1 5 2   1.0   0.1  0.0287903   0.4334020.25

charges, sigma and epsilon are chosen in such a way that each
interaction should contribute exactly 1 kJ/mol. Indeed, the potential
energy calculated by GROMACS is 4 kJ/mol.

Now, changing the pairs to:
[ pairs ]
   1 4 2   0.5   0.1  0.0215927   0.3250520.25
   1 5 2   0.8   0.1  0.0287903   0.4334020.25

I get the potential energy of 3.3 kJ/mol, which means that coulomb14
whas rescaled from 1 to 0.5 and coulomb15 was rescaled from 1 to 0.8.
This is exaclty what I was looking for.

Thanks for all the comments,
Borys


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Re: [gmx-users] reg aCTIVE SITE

2009-06-07 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Quoting vidhya sankar :

> Dear gromacs users,
>   Is there is any tools available in
> gromacs to predict active site of protein molecule ?   othewise how could we
> predict active site of a protein molecule 
> please let me know .   i am  waitingfor your positive reply
>

There is no Gromacs tool, but this is a standard application of bioinformatics
techniques (sequence analysis/alignment).

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[gmx-users] reg aCTIVE SITE

2009-06-07 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear gromacs users,
  Is there is any tools available in gromacs to 
predict active site of protein molecule ?   othewise how could we predict 
active site of a protein molecule 
please let me know .   i am  waitingfor your positive reply


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Re: [gmx-users] Scaled 1-5 interactions

2009-06-07 Thread Borys Szefczyk
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 02:06:56PM +0200, Florian Dommert wrote:
> * David van der Spoel  [2009-06-06 08:06:26 +0200]:
>> The VDW may work, but not differently scaled 1-4 and 1-5 coulomb  
>> interactions.
>
> Where is the matter if I have a [ pairs ] directive in the itp file like 
> this :
>
>
> [ pairs ]
> ; ai   aj  fu
>   15   2  0.5 -0.11  0.13 0.30250  0.095865
>   16   2  0.5 -0.11  0.13 0.30250  0.095865
>   .
>   .
>   .
>   .
> ;this is are nonbonded intramolecular IAs separated by more than theree 
> bonds
>  2   5   2   7.569   0.07200   0.02300   0.0   0.0
>  2   6   2   7.569   0.07200   0.02300   0.0   0.0


I think this will work, but setting LJ parameters to zero will cancel
the interaction for these pairs. Is this what you intend to do?

I did a simple test: I've defined an abstract molecule like this:
X-X-X-X-X
so that 1 and fourth atom are 0.4 nm apart, and 1 and fifth atom
are 0.5 nm apart. I've set all bonded and non-bonded interactions to
zero, Nexcl=3, gen-pairs=yes, fudgeQQ=1.0, fugdeLJ=1.0.

Then I have defined [pairs] like this:

[ pairs ]
1 4 2   1.0   0.1  0.0215927   0.3250520.25
1 5 2   1.0   0.1  0.0287903   0.4334020.25

charges, sigma and epsilon are chosen in such a way that each
interaction should contribute exactly 1 kJ/mol. Indeed, the potential
energy calculated by GROMACS is 4 kJ/mol.

Now, changing the pairs to:
[ pairs ]
1 4 2   0.5   0.1  0.0215927   0.3250520.25
1 5 2   0.8   0.1  0.0287903   0.4334020.25

I get the potential energy of 3.3 kJ/mol, which means that coulomb14
whas rescaled from 1 to 0.5 and coulomb15 was rescaled from 1 to 0.8.
This is exaclty what I was looking for.

Thanks for all the comments,
Borys


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Re: [gmx-users] Nonrepeatable results for gromacs 4.0.5

2009-06-07 Thread David van der Spoel

Jim Kress wrote:

I've been doing multiple runs using gromacs v 4.0.5 mdrun and a constant
topol.tpr input file.  Unfortunately, the results that I get in my md.log
differ from run to run.


This is due to dynamic load balancing. Due to fluctuations in the CPU 
usage (e.g. due to operating system) your load will vary on each CPU and 
gromacs will try to balance it. Hence you get numerical differences 
because in a computer (a+b)+c != a+(b+c), and ultimately the 
trajectories will diverge.


If you turn off dlb this should not happen. Please try it and report if 
you see the same effect without.




For example, 


Run 1

Started mdrun on node 0 Fri May 22 22:53:51 2009

   Step   Time Lambda
  00.00.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
1.95406e+021.04746e+024.97704e+014.13260e+011.40158e+03
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
2.60139e+03   -2.64656e+04   -2.20714e+044.03780e+03   -1.80336e+04
Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
3.03142e+02   -8.46977e+021.92470e-05

DD  step 9 load imb.: force 29.9%

At step 10 the performance loss due to force load imbalance is 8.6 %

NOTE: Turning on dynamic load balancing

DD  step 99  vol min/aver 0.731  load imb.: force  6.9%

   Step   Time Lambda
1000.20.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
2.05310e+021.30129e+025.63474e+011.81814e+011.44270e+03
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
2.69491e+03   -2.69624e+04   -2.24148e+044.19456e+03   -1.82203e+04
Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
3.14910e+02   -5.19031e+021.76248e-05

DD  load balancing is limited by minimum cell size in dimension Y
DD  step 199  vol min/aver 0.766! load imb.: force 10.7%

   Step   Time Lambda
2000.40.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
2.20550e+021.09068e+026.93319e+015.32511e+011.43458e+03
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
2.78241e+03   -2.70319e+04   -2.23627e+044.13455e+03   -1.82281e+04
Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
3.10405e+02   -5.01205e+021.70105e-05

DD  load balancing is limited by minimum cell size in dimension Y
DD  step 299  vol min/aver 0.750! load imb.: force  3.3%

   Step   Time Lambda
3000.60.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
2.17474e+028.65489e+015.24995e+014.72592e+011.44419e+03
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
3.17643e+03   -2.72841e+04   -2.22597e+043.95024e+03   -1.83095e+04
Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
2.96568e+021.40098e+031.55861e-05

DD  step 399  vol min/aver 0.700  load imb.: force  5.9%

   Step   Time Lambda
4000.80.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
2.43143e+029.93116e+017.16796e+014.63666e+011.46722e+03
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
2.84150e+03   -2.70065e+04   -2.22372e+044.05976e+03   -1.81775e+04
Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
3.04791e+022.48551e+021.61141e-05

DD  step 499  vol min/aver 0.678  load imb.: force  6.6%

   Step   Time Lambda
5001.00.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
2.19638e+028.98359e+018.99946e+015.16612e+011.46338e+03
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
2.80267e+03   -2.68507e+04   -2.21335e+044.14195e+03   -1.79916e+04
Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
3.10961e+02   -1.17210e+021.71420e-05

DD  step 599  vol min/aver 0.678  load imb.: force  6.7%

   Step   Time Lambda
6001.20.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   G96AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
2.32938e+021.04322e+027.11343e+012.16046e+011.45770e+03
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
3.07425e+03   -2.71320e+04   -2.21700e+044.17285e+03   -1.79972e+04
Temperature Pressure (bar)  Cons. rmsd ()
3.13281e+025.60002e+011.97532e-05

DD  step 699  vol min/aver 0.664  load imb.: force 13.1%

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