Re: [gmx-users] Re: Re: FEP problem with lambda perturbation 1 to 0.95

2009-08-12 Thread Floris Buelens
 So what you mean is that I should either use soft core for

 the entire transformation or not use it at all. But then I do not
 understand what Carsten said about using at least on lambda values
 close to 0 and 1. I thought that if I used soft core on the last point
 of my transformation (the one that crashed before I used soft core) I
 would eliminate the singularities produced by the end points. I got a
 little confused now.

right, I see the confusion now - I don't agree with the way Carsten's phrased 
that, for a single free energy calculation you absolutely have to use a single 
consistent set of parameters. At end points lambda=0 and 1, the soft core 
potential is identical to standard vdW / electrostatics; this means the free 
energy difference for switching on a soft core potential at either end point is 
zero. When lambda is not =0 or =1, this is no longer true, so if you activate 
the soft core potential part way through there would be a free energy 
difference which isn't being counted.
hope that helps,

Floris


 Hi Fabricio,

 It's not correct to change your value of alpha, you should use a single value 
 for the whole transformation. The soft core potential is constructed so that 
 the end points at lambda=0 and 1 represent the 'native' states (with no 
 influence from the soft core parameters), and that intermediate values 
 produce a smooth transformation.
 Best,

 Floris


 
 From: Ragnarok sdf fabrac...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Monday, 10 August, 2009 20:54:35
 Subject: [gmx-users] Re: Re: FEP problem with lambda perturbation 1 to 0.95

 I have tried using the soft core correction for values of lambda above
 0.5, because i read that the overlaping starts usually at this lambda
 value. The problem is that now I values of deltaG where lambda is near
 0.5 a little bit off-scale. What I mean is that what used to be a nice
 sequencial decrease in values from lambda 0 to lambda 1, now gives me
 a crazy value for lambda 0.5 (by crazy I mean 3 times larger) then for
 lambda 0.55, 0.6, 0.65 etc, I get values 3 times smaller than what
 they used to be. I guess that maybe using soft core correction for
 lambda values starting from 0.5 was a little bit to soon. But then for
 which lambda values should I start using soft core and how would I
 justify my choice?
 Thank you
 Fabrэcio Bracht
 - Ocultar texto das mensagens anteriores -

 I agree with Carsten. See perhaps the discussion at www.alchemistry.org as
 well.

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Carsten Kutzner ckut...@gwdg.de wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Ragnarok sdf wrote:

  I am performing FEP do obtain the dimerization of a protein in
 membrane. The lambda intervals i am using are 0.05 for each window.
 After that I rerun each lambda .trr perturbing the system (plus)0.05
 and (minus)0.05 lambda value. Then with g-energy I obtain the deltaG
 for each delta lambda.
 Well, I have encountered a problem when trying to simulate the last
 window (1.0 - 0.95 ). The simulation runs for a while and then dies.
 The log file says
 Step 2200  Warning: Pressure scaling more than 1%.

  Hi Fabricio,

 do you use soft-core? If not, I think you need to, at least for
 the intervals next to 0 and 1 to avoid singularities (these
 can result in undefined / NaN forces). See chap. 4.5.1 and
 7.3.23 in the manual.

 Carsten

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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization

2009-08-12 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Mark Abrahammark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 Jamie Seyed wrote:

 Dear all,
 I performed an md simulation but it crashed at the beginning because
 according to it system was exploding. Also when I tried to see the
 system
 by ngmx, there was no water anymore and it was only the molecule sitting
 in
 the box(after grompp and before mdrun it was a box of water plus the
 molecule)!!??

 So you used a wrong file at some point... name your files carefully, and use
 them carefully.

Maybe xtc-grps was set to protein? That wouldn't be related to the
problem. But did the crash occur directly, at step -1/0/1, or did the
system run at least for a few steps? What exactly were you doing?
Please copy-paste your command lines, your .mdp file and the mdrun
output (not the log file yet, please).

Cheers,

Tsjerk

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Re: [gmx-users] Improper Dihedrals

2009-08-12 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

If you turn all bonds to constraints, and your system is infinitely
periodic, you probably don't even need impropers. The bond lengths can
only be satisfied in the plane. Adding impropers, straining your
molecule further into the configuration you think is proper, adds
forces that inevitable come with vibrations. The higher the straining
(the forces), the higher the frequencies, the smaller you have to set
your time step to be sure not to get into trouble. Then again,
everything moves and surely graphene sheets vibrate. The big question
here is: what is the out of plane vibration of atoms in a graphene
sheet? Googling graphene out plane vibration gives the following for
a  first hit: 
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/0370-1301/69/12/319/prbv69i12p1326.pdf
Maybe that's a good start to get your system tuned?

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkuljalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 Darrell Koskinen wrote:

 Dear GROMACS Gurus,
 I assigned improper dihedrals to my graphene structuure but still see it
 vibrating. Is this to be expected? I thought the purpose of improper
 dihedrals was to keep planar structures planar.


 There is still a force constant associated with the improper, so deviations
 from absolute planarity are possible.  Vibrations aren't unexpected, but any
 severe distortions would be problematic.

 -Justin

 Here is a copy of a couple of sections of my topology file after assigning
 the improper dihedrals to my graphene structure:

 #define improper_dihedral improper_Z_CA_X_Y

 [ dihedrals ]
 ;  ai    aj    ak    al funct            c0            c1            c2
          c3            c4            c5
   3     1     2     5     1    improper_dihedral
   2     1     3     7     1    improper_dihedral
   2     1     4     9     1    improper_dihedral
   1     2     5    11     1    improper_dihedral
   1     2     6    13     1    improper_dihedral


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[gmx-users] copper cluster bond to histidines

2009-08-12 Thread andrea spitaleri
Dear all,
I am going to run some MD simulation of a protein bearing a copper cluster (3 
Cu2+ nominally charge
2+) coordinates to histidine residues. As far as concerning the importance of 
this cluster in the
enzymatic activity (this would require QM/MM), my issue is how to interpret the 
whole system
[HIS_{2}-Cu2+]_{3} in term of force field. From literature and from previous 
posts in this mailing
list, in MD system similar to mine (aminoacid coordinating ions) are treated as 
an unique residues
(i.e. HEME group). My first try was to perform MD without restraints on Cu2+, 
but unfortunately at
100K (I am doing an equilibration from 100K to 300K) after few ps one of the 
Cu2+ left already its
position (basically it is flying away).
Second try was to put restraints on the system between the Cu2+ and the N-HIS. 
However, my doubt is
how bad is this assumption respect to the possibility to consider the whole 
system Cu2+-HIS as an
unique residue in the topology file. I am aware that for the latest hypothesis 
I should reconsider
all the properties (i.e. charges, angles, etc ...), so a long way and hard 
work. Think about that I
need to put a O2 molecule inside of the Cu2+ cluster in a second study.

Any suggestion, comments and anything else are very welcome.

Thanks in advance

Regards

andrea

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Re: [gmx-users] copper cluster bond to histidines

2009-08-12 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Andrea,

You're probably best off 'fixing' the copper to the protein, meaning
introducing bonds at least (harmonic, type 6?). With these bonds you
can to some degree account for the effects of polarization and such on
the interatomic distances, which are likely more difficult to model
reparameterizing the non-bonded interactions. You should also
definitely consider that there is considerable polarization and charge
transfer in such metal clusters, which means that you should probably
attenuate the charges of the copper as well as of the ligating atoms.
For the ligation geometry you can try to rely on size-exclusion
effects of the ligands, but copper may prove nasty, in which case you
also need to set parameters for angles and maybe for dihedrals. Not
for naught that newbies are usually discouraged for performing
simulations like these (exotic species)... But you had already
considered that.

Hope this helps,

Tsjerk

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, andrea
spitalerispitaleri.and...@hsr.it wrote:
 Dear all,
 I am going to run some MD simulation of a protein bearing a copper cluster (3 
 Cu2+ nominally charge
 2+) coordinates to histidine residues. As far as concerning the importance of 
 this cluster in the
 enzymatic activity (this would require QM/MM), my issue is how to interpret 
 the whole system
 [HIS_{2}-Cu2+]_{3} in term of force field. From literature and from previous 
 posts in this mailing
 list, in MD system similar to mine (aminoacid coordinating ions) are treated 
 as an unique residues
 (i.e. HEME group). My first try was to perform MD without restraints on Cu2+, 
 but unfortunately at
 100K (I am doing an equilibration from 100K to 300K) after few ps one of the 
 Cu2+ left already its
 position (basically it is flying away).
 Second try was to put restraints on the system between the Cu2+ and the 
 N-HIS. However, my doubt is
 how bad is this assumption respect to the possibility to consider the whole 
 system Cu2+-HIS as an
 unique residue in the topology file. I am aware that for the latest 
 hypothesis I should reconsider
 all the properties (i.e. charges, angles, etc ...), so a long way and hard 
 work. Think about that I
 need to put a O2 molecule inside of the Cu2+ cluster in a second study.

 Any suggestion, comments and anything else are very welcome.

 Thanks in advance

 Regards

 andrea

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Re: [gmx-users] copper cluster bond to histidines

2009-08-12 Thread Ran Friedman
Dear Andrea,

Which restraints did you use?
I've ran simulations on a similar system (Zn2+ coordinated to
histidines) with NMR restraints as implemented in Gromacs and it worked
fine.

Best regards,
Ran.

andrea spitaleri wrote:
 Dear all,
 I am going to run some MD simulation of a protein bearing a copper cluster (3 
 Cu2+ nominally charge
 2+) coordinates to histidine residues. As far as concerning the importance of 
 this cluster in the
 enzymatic activity (this would require QM/MM), my issue is how to interpret 
 the whole system
 [HIS_{2}-Cu2+]_{3} in term of force field. From literature and from previous 
 posts in this mailing
 list, in MD system similar to mine (aminoacid coordinating ions) are treated 
 as an unique residues
 (i.e. HEME group). My first try was to perform MD without restraints on Cu2+, 
 but unfortunately at
 100K (I am doing an equilibration from 100K to 300K) after few ps one of the 
 Cu2+ left already its
 position (basically it is flying away).
 Second try was to put restraints on the system between the Cu2+ and the 
 N-HIS. However, my doubt is
 how bad is this assumption respect to the possibility to consider the whole 
 system Cu2+-HIS as an
 unique residue in the topology file. I am aware that for the latest 
 hypothesis I should reconsider
 all the properties (i.e. charges, angles, etc ...), so a long way and hard 
 work. Think about that I
 need to put a O2 molecule inside of the Cu2+ cluster in a second study.

 Any suggestion, comments and anything else are very welcome.

 Thanks in advance

 Regards

 andrea

   


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Re: [gmx-users] copper cluster bond to histidines

2009-08-12 Thread andrea spitaleri
Hi Tsjerk,
thanks for the usual useful suggestions! Probably I will go for that, add an 
harmonic bonds between
Cu2+ and N-HIS and I will think how to hand the charges too.
Probably this is the less worst solution for now.

Thank a lot,

Regards

andrea

Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:
 Hi Andrea,
 
 You're probably best off 'fixing' the copper to the protein, meaning
 introducing bonds at least (harmonic, type 6?). With these bonds you
 can to some degree account for the effects of polarization and such on
 the interatomic distances, which are likely more difficult to model
 reparameterizing the non-bonded interactions. You should also
 definitely consider that there is considerable polarization and charge
 transfer in such metal clusters, which means that you should probably
 attenuate the charges of the copper as well as of the ligating atoms.
 For the ligation geometry you can try to rely on size-exclusion
 effects of the ligands, but copper may prove nasty, in which case you
 also need to set parameters for angles and maybe for dihedrals. Not
 for naught that newbies are usually discouraged for performing
 simulations like these (exotic species)... But you had already
 considered that.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Tsjerk
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, andrea
 spitalerispitaleri.and...@hsr.it wrote:
 Dear all,
 I am going to run some MD simulation of a protein bearing a copper cluster 
 (3 Cu2+ nominally charge
 2+) coordinates to histidine residues. As far as concerning the importance 
 of this cluster in the
 enzymatic activity (this would require QM/MM), my issue is how to interpret 
 the whole system
 [HIS_{2}-Cu2+]_{3} in term of force field. From literature and from previous 
 posts in this mailing
 list, in MD system similar to mine (aminoacid coordinating ions) are treated 
 as an unique residues
 (i.e. HEME group). My first try was to perform MD without restraints on 
 Cu2+, but unfortunately at
 100K (I am doing an equilibration from 100K to 300K) after few ps one of the 
 Cu2+ left already its
 position (basically it is flying away).
 Second try was to put restraints on the system between the Cu2+ and the 
 N-HIS. However, my doubt is
 how bad is this assumption respect to the possibility to consider the whole 
 system Cu2+-HIS as an
 unique residue in the topology file. I am aware that for the latest 
 hypothesis I should reconsider
 all the properties (i.e. charges, angles, etc ...), so a long way and hard 
 work. Think about that I
 need to put a O2 molecule inside of the Cu2+ cluster in a second study.

 Any suggestion, comments and anything else are very welcome.

 Thanks in advance

 Regards

 andrea

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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization

2009-08-12 Thread Jamie Seyed
Dear all, Thanks for all comments. I will check again all steps for my
previous simulation with right files (according to Mark) and then I will let
you know if I got the same problem (I am not working on proteins).
Another question:
--After energy minimization step for in-vacuo run, Should I do still
position restrained MD, since I want the bond length be fixed
(constraints=all-bonds)?
--After pr-md in mdrun step for in-vacuo simulation, is it true that I will
get the movement of my molecule in vacuum?? I appreciate your help/Jamie

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Mark Abrahammark.abra...@anu.edu.au
 wrote:
  Jamie Seyed wrote:
 
  Dear all,
  I performed an md simulation but it crashed at the beginning because
  according to it system was exploding. Also when I tried to see the
  system
  by ngmx, there was no water anymore and it was only the molecule sitting
  in
  the box(after grompp and before mdrun it was a box of water plus the
  molecule)!!??
 
  So you used a wrong file at some point... name your files carefully, and
 use
  them carefully.

 Maybe xtc-grps was set to protein? That wouldn't be related to the
 problem. But did the crash occur directly, at step -1/0/1, or did the
 system run at least for a few steps? What exactly were you doing?
 Please copy-paste your command lines, your .mdp file and the mdrun
 output (not the log file yet, please).

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

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[gmx-users] minimization

2009-08-12 Thread Morteza Khabiri
Dear users

I have a dimer protein which I want to minimized it..unfortunately the
protein is in high energy level and before starting to minimize it
explode.
I already went through users email and also wiki gromacs and also I tried
all the way like changing time step, change coulomb type ,... but they did
not work ..

As MARK suggest me I try to minimize monomer separately but the monomers
itself also have high energy and it is not possible to minimize them...

I change the forcefield from olps to gromacs and minimization work. I did
several minimization by gromacs forcefiled and then I tried to minimized
the system by OPLS but again the system start exploiding...
Is there any idea that why the minimization work by gromacs but not work
with opls?
finally I should simulate my system by opls and if I want to do it my
system still not minimized for OPLS
I will apprecite if there will be some idea for my problem

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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization

2009-08-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Jamie Seyed wrote:
Dear all, Thanks for all comments. I will check again all steps for my 
previous simulation with right files (according to Mark) and then I will 
let you know if I got the same problem (I am not working on proteins).

Another question:
--After energy minimization step for in-vacuo run, Should I do still 
position restrained MD, since I want the bond length be fixed 
(constraints=all-bonds)?
--After pr-md in mdrun step for in-vacuo simulation, is it true that I 
will get the movement of my molecule in vacuum?? I appreciate your 


Position restraints are most commonly used to allow solvent to relax around a 
structure during initial equilibration.  If you're running in vacuo, I don't see 
much purpose.  It is possible that your molecule will still move; PR does not 
mean that you are fixing atoms in place, but instead that you are specifying an 
energy penalty for moving the constituent atoms away from their original 
coordinates.


-Justin


help/Jamie

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com 
mailto:tsje...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Mark
Abrahammark.abra...@anu.edu.au mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
  Jamie Seyed wrote:
 
  Dear all,
  I performed an md simulation but it crashed at the beginning because
  according to it system was exploding. Also when I tried to see the
  system
  by ngmx, there was no water anymore and it was only the molecule
sitting
  in
  the box(after grompp and before mdrun it was a box of water plus the
  molecule)!!??
 
  So you used a wrong file at some point... name your files
carefully, and use
  them carefully.

Maybe xtc-grps was set to protein? That wouldn't be related to the
problem. But did the crash occur directly, at step -1/0/1, or did the
system run at least for a few steps? What exactly were you doing?
Please copy-paste your command lines, your .mdp file and the mdrun
output (not the log file yet, please).

Cheers,

Tsjerk

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[gmx-users] Re: [gmx-developers] Fwd: xdrfile library, read co-ordinates from .xtc

2009-08-12 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
Janne, Jussi,

Thank you very much!

Vitaly

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Janne Blomqvistjanne.blomqv...@tkk.fi wrote:
 Vitaly V. Chaban wrote:

 On the same topic, I have a question to the community: does anybody
 try to make *so*-library (or *dll* on windows) of xdrfile in order to
 use with other programming languages? I spent a day trying to master
 this art but didn't still succeed. If somebody more experienced with
 dynamic libraries than me can provide such one, I will be very
 grateful.

 Yeah, I did this on Linux, in order to call libxdrfile using the python
 ctypes library. I just configured xdrfile with --enable-shared.

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[gmx-users] A question regarding single sum virial

2009-08-12 Thread LuLanyuan

Hello all,
I got a question when I read the the manual chapter for the single sum virial 
(p195-196).  In eq (B.3) we have r_ij_n=r_i+delta_i-r_j. Shouldn't  delta here 
also depend on index j? I think delta is zero when particle i and j are close. 
And delta can be something else when any x/y/z component of r_i-r_j is larger 
than half box length. But from eq (B.5) to (B.11) it seems delta_i only depends 
on index i and I got confused.
Could anyone explain it to me?
Thanks very much!
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Re: [gmx-users] A question regarding single sum virial

2009-08-12 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Lanyuan Lu,

It's described in detail in Chapter 2 of Henk Bekkers PhD thesis, available at:
http://dissertations.ub.rug.nl/faculties/science/1996/h.bekker/

Cheers,

Tsjerk

2009/8/12 LuLanyuan lulany...@msn.com:
 Hello all,
 I got a question when I read the the manual chapter for the single sum
 virial (p195-196).  In eq (B.3) we have r_ij_n=r_i+delta_i-r_j. Shouldn't
 delta here also depend on index j? I think delta is zero when particle i and
 j are close. And delta can be something else when any x/y/z component of
 r_i-r_j is larger than half box length. But from eq (B.5) to (B.11) it seems
 delta_i only depends on index i and I got confused.
 Could anyone explain it to me?
 Thanks very much!
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[gmx-users] problem installing gromacs

2009-08-12 Thread st
Hi There,

I have some problems installing gromacs on the linux server. 

fftw installed with no error, but when I install gromacs,
I got the following error:
*
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link cc  -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused -funroll-all-loops  
-L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib   -o grompp grompp.o libgmxpreprocess_d.la 
../mdlib/l
cc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused 
-funroll-all-loops -o .libs/grompp grompp.o  -L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib 
./.libs/libgmxpreprocess_d.a -L/usr/X11R6/lib ../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so /n
_d.so -lnsl -lfftw3 -lm -lSM -lICE -lX11  -Wl,--rpath 
-Wl,/home/y1gao/soft/gromacs//lib
../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference to `__libm_sse2_sincos'
../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference to `__libm_sse2_log'
../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference to `_intel_fast_memcpy'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [grompp] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src/kernel'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
***

I used the combinations of the following fftw and gromacs:
fftw 3.2.1; fftw3.2.2
gromacs 3.3.3; gromacs 4.0.4

gcc version 3.4.6

The command I used are:
*
To install fftw:
 $ ./configure --enable-threads --enable-sse2 -prefix /home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib
 $ make
$ make install

To install gromacs:
$ ./configure --enable-shared LDFLAGS='-L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib' 
CPPFLAGS='-I/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/include' --enable-double 
--prefix=/home/y1gao/soft/gromacs/
$ make
$ make install
( error comes out here)

*

Could anyone help me find a way out? Thanks in advance.

Stone
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RE: [gmx-users] A question regarding single sum virial

2009-08-12 Thread LuLanyuan

That's cool. Thanks a lot!
Lanyuan

 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:01:14 +0200
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] A question regarding single sum virial
 From: tsje...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 
 Hi Lanyuan Lu,
 
 It's described in detail in Chapter 2 of Henk Bekkers PhD thesis, available 
 at:
 http://dissertations.ub.rug.nl/faculties/science/1996/h.bekker/
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tsjerk
 
 2009/8/12 LuLanyuan lulany...@msn.com:
  Hello all,
  I got a question when I read the the manual chapter for the single sum
  virial (p195-196).  In eq (B.3) we have r_ij_n=r_i+delta_i-r_j. Shouldn't
  delta here also depend on index j? I think delta is zero when particle i and
  j are close. And delta can be something else when any x/y/z component of
  r_i-r_j is larger than half box length. But from eq (B.5) to (B.11) it seems
  delta_i only depends on index i and I got confused.
  Could anyone explain it to me?
  Thanks very much!
  Lanyuan Lu
 
  
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RE: [gmx-users] A question regarding single sum virial

2009-08-12 Thread LuLanyuan

Hello,
Unfortunately I still don't understand the equations in the manual after 
reading Chapter 2 of Hendrik Bekker's dissertation. In that chapter, the virial 
is expressed as A+B+C. 
Here A+B is the r_i*F_i stuff, which can be considered as the virial without 
considering PBC. And the third term should correspond to the detla derm in the 
Gromacs manual, which is a correction due to PBC. However, in the dissertation 
the correction term is always related to pairwise forces F_ij in different ways 
to calculate it. In the manual, the correction term is written as delta_i*F_i, 
which is related to individual force on each atom only. I still have no idea 
for that how the magic delta can convert a pairwise force expression into an 
individual force expression.
Anyone has an idea about it?
Thanks,
Lanyuan

 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:01:14 +0200
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] A question regarding single sum virial
 From: tsje...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 
 Hi Lanyuan Lu,
 
 It's described in detail in Chapter 2 of Henk Bekkers PhD thesis, available 
 at:
 http://dissertations.ub.rug.nl/faculties/science/1996/h.bekker/
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tsjerk
 
 2009/8/12 LuLanyuan lulany...@msn.com:
  Hello all,
  I got a question when I read the the manual chapter for the single sum
  virial (p195-196).  In eq (B.3) we have r_ij_n=r_i+delta_i-r_j. Shouldn't
  delta here also depend on index j? I think delta is zero when particle i and
  j are close. And delta can be something else when any x/y/z component of
  r_i-r_j is larger than half box length. But from eq (B.5) to (B.11) it seems
  delta_i only depends on index i and I got confused.
  Could anyone explain it to me?
  Thanks very much!
  Lanyuan Lu
 
  
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[gmx-users] use Xcode to debug Gromacs

2009-08-12 Thread Shuangxing Dai
Dear all,

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[gmx-users] use Xcode to debug Gromacs

2009-08-12 Thread Shuangxing Dai
Dear all,   I was trying to use Xcode to debug the file mdrun and hope to
trace the flow of source file by running a simple case. There is a tutorial
for using Xcode to debug a package named apbs, which is very like Gromacs,
here:
http://www.macresearch.org/tutorial-introducing-xcode-30-organizer
I
followed the tutorial and it works well for apbs. But when I did the
same thing for Gromacs, I can only see the assemble code for mdrun and
it was not connected to the source code. Only assemble code does not
help. So my question is:
anyone know how to use Xcode to debug Gromacs executable file? I need
the breakpoints to be related with the source code so that I can trace
the flow.
Sorry for the last mail that I pressed space accidently...
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[gmx-users] Determining the energy of an individual atom

2009-08-12 Thread Darrell Koskinen

Hi Mark,
I do have a paper in my possession that provides a first principles 
calculation of the adsorption energy of ammonia on graphene. I was 
planning on using this paper to compare the adsorption energy to the 
vibrational energy of the individual atoms in the graphene lattice. But 
how do I measure the average kinetic energy of a graphene atom in my system?


And I should also let you know that I have removed the ad hoc parameters 
and am using ffoplsaa in its pure unmodified form.


Thanks again for your help.

Darrell

Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:42:08 +1000
From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Determining the energy of an individual atom.
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Darrell Koskinen wrote:
  

Dear GROMACS Gurus,
In my simulation of a graphene structure surrounded by an ammonia gas, I 
am not seeing any adsorption of the ammonia molecules onto the surface 
of the graphene structure. I am wondering if the reason I am not seeing 
any absorption is because the graphene lattice is vibrating and thereby 
imparting too much energy to the ammonia molecule when it comes into the 
vicinity of the graphene lattice, thus impairing any adsorption. I 
assume that the adsorption energy would have to be significantly greater 
than the vibrational energy in order to allow adsorption to occur. If 
this is true, then is there some way of determining the translational 
(vibrational) energy of an atom in the graphene lattice so that I may 
compare it to the adsorption energy?



You can measure the average kinetic energy of an atom, but whether you 
can infer anything else might depend on comparing with a structure to 
which something did adsorb.


Frankly, it seems rather more likely that the ad hoc combination of 
parameters you have described in the past is incapable of modelling this 
behaviour. Parameterization is only known to be useful within a limited 
domain. You might be able to demonstrate transferability, but it cannot 
be assumed.


Mark
  

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[gmx-users] Determining the energy of an individual atom

2009-08-12 Thread Darrell Koskinen

Hi David,
Thank you for your comments.

The bulk of the graphene sheet is not polarized in the absence of a 
connection to electrodes. In some experiments on graphene adsorption, 
they show significant adsorption of ammonia, but in these experiments 
they connected the graphene sheet to electrodes. Could this be assisting 
in the adsorption of ammonia on the graphene sheet?


The edges of my graphene sheet are polarized since I have terminated the 
edges with hydrogen atoms. I expected to see some adsorption in the bulk 
of the graphene sheet resulting from VdW forces and significantly more 
adorption on the edges due to the polarization. I also expected to see a 
stronger adsorption energy for the adsorption on the edges. However, I 
am not seeing even a single molecule being adsorbed either in the bulk 
or on the edges. Could it be that the binding energy arising from VdW 
forces is much weaker than the vibrational energy of the lattice atoms? 
I should also add that hydrogen atoms attached to the edge of the 
graphene lattice show even greater movement than the carbon atoms in the 
graphene lattice. Is this is to be expected and is it the result of the 
small mass of the hydrogen atoms and could this be impairing the 
adsorption on the edges?


Again, your thoughts and comments are much appreciated.

Darrell

Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:45:11 +0200
From: David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Determining the energy of an individual atom.
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Darrell Koskinen wrote:
  

Dear GROMACS Gurus,
In my simulation of a graphene structure surrounded by an ammonia gas, I 
am not seeing any adsorption of the ammonia molecules onto the surface 
of the graphene structure. I am wondering if the reason I am not seeing 
any absorption is because the graphene lattice is vibrating and thereby 
imparting too much energy to the ammonia molecule when it comes into the 
vicinity of the graphene lattice, thus impairing any adsorption. I 
assume that the adsorption energy would have to be significantly greater 
than the vibrational energy in order to allow adsorption to occur. If 
this is true, then is there some way of determining the translational 
(vibrational) energy of an atom in the graphene lattice so that I may 
compare it to the adsorption energy?



If your graphene is not polarizable then the interaction with ammonia is 
limited to Van der waals interactions. However the induced polarization 
can be quite strong for such groups, and hence it seems you are missing 
an important part of the binding energy.
  

Thanks again for your help.

Darrell


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[gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread nicegromacs
Hi gmx-users,

I am building a polymer and I've added the monomer unit to the .rtp file. The 
final structure appears with an undesired bond between the monomer units at the 
extremes of the polymer. 
How can I prevent the monomers at the end forming the bond?

I have read other post like 
http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg21133.html  but  can not 
avoid this problem . 

Thank you in advance

veduardo.

Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular

Facultas de Ciencias

Universidad de Chile

 


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Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nicegromacs wrote:

Hi gmx-users,

I am building a polymer and I've added the monomer unit to the 
.rtp file. The final structure appears with an undesired bond between 
the monomer units at the extremes of the polymer.

How can I prevent the monomers at the end forming the bond?



Bonds that appear in visualization software are separate from bonds that exist 
in the topology.  Programs like VMD guess where bonds should be based on atomic 
distances, which may or may not correspond to reality.


Be assured that the only true bonds are the ones you have defined in the 
topology.

-Justin

I have read other post like 
http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg21133.html  but  
can not avoid this problem .


Thank you in advance

veduardo.

Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular

Facultas de Ciencias

Universidad de Chile

 

 





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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal Equilibration Errors

2009-08-12 Thread Nancy
Hello,

In an earlier message, it was stated that topolbuild generated topologies
with Gromos 53a6 and OPLS-AA force fields.  I am using topolbuild (version
1.2.2), and the only files in the dat/gromacs directory are for the force
fields: 43a1, 43a2, 43b1, 45a3, 53a5, and 53a6.  How is the OPLS-AA force
field used?

Thank you.

Nancy




On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Bruce D. Ray bruced...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 4:32:19 PM, Nancy nancy5vi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I obtained the ethylene glycol (1,2-ethanediol) structure from the URL:
   http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/files/ligand/EDO_ideal.pdb
 
  I converted the EDO_ideal.pdb file into ethanediol.mol2 using UCSF
  Chimera (http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/).
 
  I then use topolbuild 1.2 (written by Dr. Bruce D. Ray) to generate the
 topologies:
 
  $ .../topolbuild1_2_2/src/topolbuild -n ethanediol -dir
 .../topolbuild1_2_2/dat/gromacs -ff gmx53a6
 
  which outputs the files:
 
  ethanediol.gro
  ethanediol.log
  ethanediolMOL.mol2
  ethanediol.top
  ffethanediol.itp
  posreethanediol.itp
 
  I modified the ffethanediol.itp file to read:
 
  ===
  #define _FF_GROMOS96
  #define _FF_GROMOS53A6
  #define _FF_USER
 
  [ defaults ]
  ;nbfunc comb-rule  gen-pairs fudgeLJ  fudgeQQ
1 1 no 1.0  1.0
 
  #include ffG53a6nb.itp
  ===
 
  The lack of hydrogen bonds between the solute and solvent molecules was
  due to the lack of charges in the generated topology file
 ethanediol.top.
  So I changed the atoms section of the topology file (the original
 topology
  file is at the end of this message), and this causes hydrogen bonds
 between the
  solute and solvent in numbers comparable to that between the solvent
 molecules.
 
  ===
   [ atoms ]
  ;  nrtype   resnr   residu   atom   cgnrcharge  mass
  1   CH2 1   EDO  C11   0.17600  14.02700
 ;   0.000
  2OA 1   EDO  O11   -0.5740  15.99940
 ;   0.000
  3H  1   EDO HO11   0.39800   1.00800
 ;   0.000
  4   CH2 1   EDO  C22   0.17600  14.02700
 ;   0.000
  5OA 1   EDO  O22   -0.5740  15.99940
 ;   0.000
  6H  1   EDO HO22   0.39800   1.00800
 ;   0.000
  ; total molecule charge =   0.000
  ===
 
  I obtained the charge values from the methanol tutoral included with
 Gromacs
   (.../share/gromacs/tutor/methanol/methanol.itp).  I then enlarge the
 box and solvate the molecule:

 I used a mol2 file that I generated from a sy2 file downloaded from NCI by
 first
 running the file through dos2unix then replacing the 0 in the residue
 number
 column with 1 EDO so that I had both a correct residue number column with a
 residue name column.  The NCI data was missing the residue name column.  I
 then
 read the mol2 file that resulted into UCSF Chimera and used it to generate
 gasteiger
 charges for ethylene glycol.  Chimera wrote the following mol2 file as a
 result:

 @TRIPOSMOLECULE
 EDO
 10 9 1 0 0
 SMALL
 AMBER99


 @TRIPOSATOM
   1 O1  0.0.0. O.3   1 EDO
 -0.3940
   2 C1 -0.9400   -0.1600   -1.0400 C.3   1 EDO
 0.0662
   3 C2 -1.74001.1400   -1.1400 C.3   1 EDO
 0.0662
   4 O2 -2.52001.28000.0200 O.3   1 EDO
 -0.3940
   5 H1  0.5196   -0.80240.0879 H 1 EDO
 0.2102
   6 H2 -1.5882   -0.9871   -0.8384 H 1 EDO
 0.0588
   7 H3 -0.4343   -0.3499   -1.9636 H 1 EDO
 0.0588
   8 H4 -2.37211.1133   -2.0029 H 1 EDO
 0.0588
   9 H5 -1.06961.9696   -1.2252 H 1 EDO
 0.0588
  10 H6 -3.02712.0935   -0.0316 H 1 EDO
 0.2102
 @TRIPOSBOND
  115 1
  212 1
  327 1
  426 1
  523 1
  639 1
  738 1
  834 1
  94   10 1
 @TRIPOSSUBSTRUCTURE
  1 EDO 2 RESIDUE   4 A EDO 0 ROOT


 I processed this with topolbuild 1.3 and generated topologies with gromacs
 53a6 and with opls-aa as the force fields.  I am attaching the results to
 this
 as the tarred and gzipped file, ethanediol.tgz   I note that the opls-aa
 atom
 types selected by topolbuld 1.3 have characteristic atom type charges
 charges
 of -0.7 for each oxygen, +0.435 for each of the two hydrogens bound to
 oxygens,
 +0.06 for each of the hydrogens bound to carbon, and +0.145 for each of the
 carbons.  The comparison to the gasteiger charges Chimera assigned to these
 atoms is interesting.  The opls-aa topology generated also assigns to the
 O1-C1-C2-O2 dihedral the diol constants found as a special define in
 

Re: [gmx-users] use Xcode to debug Gromacs

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Abraham

Shuangxing Dai wrote:

Dear all,   I was trying to use Xcode to debug the file mdrun and hope to
trace the flow of source file by running a simple case. There is a tutorial
for using Xcode to debug a package named apbs, which is very like Gromacs,
here:
http://www.macresearch.org/tutorial-introducing-xcode-30-organizer
I
followed the tutorial and it works well for apbs. But when I did the
same thing for Gromacs, I can only see the assemble code for mdrun and
it was not connected to the source code. Only assemble code does not
help. So my question is:
anyone know how to use Xcode to debug Gromacs executable file? I need
the breakpoints to be related with the source code so that I can trace
the flow.


As I commented in an email to Harold a little while back...


There is no substitute for getting a debugger and stepping through a run of 
GROMACS built with CFLAGS=-g to understand the flow of the code.


Symbolic information used by a debugger is added by the compiler and 
linker in response to an explicit request. I cast a quick eye over that 
tutorial, and didn't see it mention this point, so Xcode must be doing 
some magic behind the scenes that doesn't serve to educate the user.


So, setting the CFLAGS environment variable as above, or using

./configure --your-options CFLAGS=-g -anyotheroptions

will provide the symbolic information.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] minimization

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Abraham

Morteza Khabiri wrote:

Dear users

I have a dimer protein which I want to minimized it..unfortunately the
protein is in high energy level and before starting to minimize it
explode.
I already went through users email and also wiki gromacs and also I tried
all the way like changing time step, change coulomb type ,... but they did
not work ..

As MARK suggest me I try to minimize monomer separately but the monomers
itself also have high energy and it is not possible to minimize them...


OK, so simplify further to find the problem. Minimize just one half of a 
monomer, etc. Consider writing a script to run the minimization to make 
this process fast. Remember to look at the structures to identify 
obvious problems.


Mark


I change the forcefield from olps to gromacs and minimization work. I did
several minimization by gromacs forcefiled and then I tried to minimized
the system by OPLS but again the system start exploiding...
Is there any idea that why the minimization work by gromacs but not work
with opls?
finally I should simulate my system by opls and if I want to do it my
system still not minimized for OPLS
I will apprecite if there will be some idea for my problem

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Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread nicegromacs
Hi,

the bad bond appear in the topology (.top) file. 

veduardo.

 Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular
 
Facultas de Ciencias
 
Universidad de Chile


From: nicegromacs 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:28 PM
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Subject: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer


Hi gmx-users,

I am building a polymer and I've added the monomer unit to the .rtp file. The 
final structure appears with an undesired bond between the monomer units at the 
extremes of the polymer. 
How can I prevent the monomers at the end forming the bond?

I have read other post like 
http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg21133.html  but  can not 
avoid this problem . 

Thank you in advance

veduardo.

Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular

Facultas de Ciencias

Universidad de Chile

 








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Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nicegromacs wrote:

Hi,
 
the bad bond appear in the topology (.top) file.
 


Then it is something you have added.  If you want any useful advice, post the 
.rtp entries you are using.


-Justin


veduardo.

 Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular
 
Facultas de Ciencias
 
Universidad de Chile


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*To:* gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org
*Subject:* [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

Hi gmx-users,

I am building a polymer and I've added the monomer unit to the 
.rtp file. The final structure appears with an undesired bond between 
the monomer units at the extremes of the polymer.

How can I prevent the monomers at the end forming the bond?

I have read other post like 
http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg21133.html  but  
can not avoid this problem .


Thank you in advance

veduardo.

Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular

Facultas de Ciencias

Universidad de Chile

 

 




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Re: [gmx-users] Determining the energy of an individual atom

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Abraham

Darrell Koskinen wrote:

Hi Mark,
I do have a paper in my possession that provides a first principles 
calculation of the adsorption energy of ammonia on graphene. I was 
planning on using this paper to compare the adsorption energy to the 
vibrational energy of the individual atoms in the graphene lattice. But 
how do I measure the average kinetic energy of a graphene atom in my 
system?


Well you'll need to have recorded velocities (nstvout) and use one or 
other of the utility programs to analyze your .trr. See manual 7.4 to 
see what might be useful, and then relevant sections of Appendix D.


And I should also let you know that I have removed the ad hoc parameters 
and am using ffoplsaa in its pure unmodified form.


That's a good start! :-)

Mark


Thanks again for your help.

Darrell

Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:42:08 +1000
From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Determining the energy of an individual atom.
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
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Darrell Koskinen wrote:
 

Dear GROMACS Gurus,
In my simulation of a graphene structure surrounded by an ammonia 
gas, I am not seeing any adsorption of the ammonia molecules onto the 
surface of the graphene structure. I am wondering if the reason I am 
not seeing any absorption is because the graphene lattice is 
vibrating and thereby imparting too much energy to the ammonia 
molecule when it comes into the vicinity of the graphene lattice, 
thus impairing any adsorption. I assume that the adsorption energy 
would have to be significantly greater than the vibrational energy in 
order to allow adsorption to occur. If this is true, then is there 
some way of determining the translational (vibrational) energy of an 
atom in the graphene lattice so that I may compare it to the 
adsorption energy?



You can measure the average kinetic energy of an atom, but whether you 
can infer anything else might depend on comparing with a structure to 
which something did adsorb.


Frankly, it seems rather more likely that the ad hoc combination of 
parameters you have described in the past is incapable of modelling 
this behaviour. Parameterization is only known to be useful within a 
limited domain. You might be able to demonstrate transferability, but 
it cannot be assumed.


Mark
  

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Re: [gmx-users] problem installing gromacs

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Abraham
st wrote:
 Hi There,
 
 I have some problems installing gromacs on the linux server. 
 
 fftw installed with no error, but when I install gromacs,
 I got the following error:
 *
 /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link cc  -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer 
 -finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused -funroll-all-loops  
 -L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib   -o grompp grompp.o libgmxpreprocess_d.la 
 ../mdlib/l
 cc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused 
 -funroll-all-loops -o .libs/grompp grompp.o  -L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib 
 ./.libs/libgmxpreprocess_d.a -L/usr/X11R6/lib ../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so /n
 _d.so -lnsl -lfftw3 -lm -lSM -lICE -lX11  -Wl,--rpath 
 -Wl,/home/y1gao/soft/gromacs//lib
 ../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference to `__libm_sse2_sincos'
 ../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference to `__libm_sse2_log'
 ../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference to `_intel_fast_memcpy'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[3]: *** [grompp] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory 
 `/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src/kernel'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory 
 `/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory 
 `/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 ***
 
 I used the combinations of the following fftw and gromacs:
 fftw 3.2.1; fftw3.2.2
 gromacs 3.3.3; gromacs 4.0.4
 
 gcc version 3.4.6

Actually it looks to me like you're using an Intel C compiler, not gcc.
Set CC=gcc on the configure line.

Mark

 The command I used are:
 *
 To install fftw:
  $ ./configure --enable-threads --enable-sse2 -prefix 
 /home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib
  $ make
 $ make install
 
 To install gromacs:
 $ ./configure --enable-shared LDFLAGS='-L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib' 
 CPPFLAGS='-I/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/include' --enable-double 
 --prefix=/home/y1gao/soft/gromacs/
 $ make
 $ make install
 ( error comes out here)
 
 *
 
 Could anyone help me find a way out? Thanks in advance.
 
 Stone
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread nicegromacs

Hi,
the .rtp

[ POL ]
[ atoms ]
  CAA  CH30.000
  CAB  CH20.000
  CAC  CH20.000
  CAD  CH20.000
  CAE  CH20.000
  CAF  CH20.000
  CAG  CH10.000
  CAH  CH20.041
  CAI  CH10.107
  CAJC0.352
  OAK   OM   -0.750
  OAL   OM   -0.750
  CAM  CH20.044
  CANC0.373
  OAO   OM   -0.709
  OAP   OM   -0.708
[ bonds ]
  CAA  CAB
  CAB  CAC
  CAC  CAD
  CAD  CAE
  CAE  CAF
  CAF  CAG
  CAG  CAH
  CAH  CAI
  CAI  CAJ
  CAI  CAM
  CAJ  OAK
  CAJ  OAL
  CAM  CAN
  CAN  OAO
  CAN  OAP
  CAG -CAM
[ impropers ]
  CAG  CAF -CAM  CAH
 -CAM -CAN -CAI  CAG
  CAJ  CAI  OAL  OAK
  CAN  CAM  OAP  OAO
  CAI  CAH  CAJ  CAM

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nicegromacs wrote:

Hi,
 the bad bond appear in the topology (.top) file.



Then it is something you have added.  If you want any useful advice, post 
the .rtp entries you are using.


-Justin


veduardo.

 Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular
 Facultas de Ciencias
 Universidad de Chile

*From:* nicegromacs mailto:nicegrom...@live.cl
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*To:* gmx-users@gromacs.org mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org
*Subject:* [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

Hi gmx-users,

I am building a polymer and I've added the monomer unit to the .rtp file. 
The final structure appears with an undesired bond between the monomer 
units at the extremes of the polymer.

How can I prevent the monomers at the end forming the bond?

I have read other post like 
http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg21133.html  but  can 
not avoid this problem .


Thank you in advance

veduardo.

Lab. de  Fisicoquímica Molecular

Facultas de Ciencias

Universidad de Chile

 

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Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nicegromacs wrote:


  CAG -CAM


Defining a bond to a previous residue will certainly fail for at least one 
terminus of your polymer chain.  You may find this post useful:


http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-March/040125.html

If things still aren't working, please post the structure file, as well, and 
identify the bond that is being formed that shouldn't.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] PMF for membrane protein dimer

2009-08-12 Thread Ragnarok sdf
I am working with a membrane protein dimer, each monomer being
constituted of a single helix. I have already studied the effect of
point mutations on the structure and the free energy involved by using
FEP. But I have read a paper in which the author has done PMF
calculations in order to calculate the free energy of dimerization. In
this paper (ref J. Am. Chem. Soc., 2005, 127 (23), pp 8478–8484) the
author describes a system that is quite similar to mine, though he
uses NAMD to do obtain the trajectories. I have tried gathering some
information on this particular method (PMF) in gromacs and have found
very little information regarding PFM being used to separate protein
dimers or even separating system containing more than a dozen atoms or
so. If I understood correctly, I am supposed to pull the two
structures apart, and associate a lambda value for each distance I
obtain. Well, I am a little bit lost here, since I did not really
understand how is the pull code linked with the free energy
calculation. I even found the two argon PMF tutorial quite
confusing, since I do not see how I would obtain a restrain for the
monomers in such a big system.
So, for now I would like some information on how to obtain this kind
of practical information (tutorials, instructions, articles etc). I
know everyone is quite busy solving their own problems, so any
direction now would help me have more specific doubts so that I can
further address this list with more useful questions.
Thank you
Fabrício Bracht
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Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread nicegromacs
Well, I tried to build a polymer with 3 monomers, DRG DR0 and DR1. In the 
pdb file They have the same order (DRG DR0 DR1).  But when tried with 
pdb2gmx then I have the error:

Fatal error:
In the .rtp file in residue DR1 at line:
  CF1   CH3   0   1
I changed the order of monomers to DR0 DRG DR1 with respect to the ''head'' 
monomer (DR0), Monomer of in the middle (DRG), and tail monomer (DR1), and 
the error no change. I have not changed the .hdb file.


the estructure.ent
HETATM1  CAA DRG 1  58.110  44.852  36.809
HETATM2  CAB DRG 1  56.934  44.517  35.875
HETATM3  CAC DRG 1  56.190  45.811  35.500
HETATM4  CAD DRG 1  55.051  45.476  34.520
HETATM5  CAE DRG 1  54.318  46.770  34.118
HETATM6  CAF DRG 1  53.310  46.438  33.003
HETATM7  CAG DRG 1  52.657  47.686  32.473
HETATM8  CAH DRG 1  53.521  48.753  31.851
HETATM9  CAI DRG 1  54.199  48.265  30.599
HETATM   10  CAJ DRG 1  55.615  47.887  30.630
HETATM   11  OAK DRG 1  56.231  47.370  29.495
HETATM   12  OAL DRG 1  56.359  48.028  31.798
HETATM   13  CAM DRG 1  53.423  48.169  29.314
HETATM   14  CAN DRG 1  52.529  46.963  29.306
HETATM   15  OAO DRG 1  53.058  45.698  29.542
HETATM   16  OAP DRG 1  51.206  47.090  28.902
HETATM   17  CA1 DR0 1  43.743  50.975  25.947
HETATM   18  CA2 DR0 1  44.674  51.739  26.906
HETATM   19  CA3 DR0 1  45.313  50.749  27.897
HETATM   20  CA4 DR0 1  46.248  51.508  28.856
HETATM   21  CA5 DR0 1  46.862  50.512  29.856
HETATM   22  CA6 DR0 1  47.789  51.264  30.830
HETATM   23  CA7 DR0 1  48.356  50.315  31.851
HETATM   24  CA8 DR0 1  49.361  49.293  31.385
HETATM   25  CA9 DR0 1  50.545  49.110  32.302
HETATM   26  C10 DR0 1  51.122  50.259  33.020
HETATM   27  O12 DR0 1  50.919  51.560  32.571
HETATM   28  O11 DR0 1  51.877  50.069  34.174
HETATM   29  C13 DR0 1  51.189  47.782  32.378
HETATM   30  C14 DR0 1  50.382  46.559  32.210
HETATM   31  O16 DR0 1  50.972  45.336  31.910
HETATM   32  O15 DR0 1  48.997  46.595  32.315
HETATM   33  CF1 DR1 1  55.642  46.172  39.128
HETATM   34  CF2 DR1 1  54.229  46.780  39.194
HETATM   35  CF3 DR1 1  53.591  46.765  37.791
HETATM   36  CF4 DR1 1  52.185  47.384  37.876
HETATM   37  CF5 DR1 1  51.526  47.395  36.484
HETATM   38  CF6 DR1 1  50.134  48.044  36.601
HETATM   39  CF7 DR1 1  49.475  48.098  35.212
HETATM   40  CF8 DR1 1  48.132  48.846  35.298
HETATM   41  CF9 DR1 1  47.562  49.035  33.918
HETATM   42  C1F DR1 1  46.647  48.028  33.366
HETATM   43  O3F DR1 1  46.397  46.849  34.062
HETATM   44  O2F DR1 1  45.998  48.241  32.154
HETATM   45  C4F DR1 1  47.798  50.304  33.215
HETATM   46  C5F DR1 1  47.426  51.565  33.874
HETATM   47  O7F DR1 1  47.843  52.791  33.365
HETATM   48  O6F DR1 1  46.661  51.551  35.036
CONECT12
CONECT213
CONECT324
CONECT435
CONECT546
CONECT657
CONECT768   29
CONECT879
CONECT98   10   13
CONECT   109   11   12
CONECT   11   10
CONECT   12   10
CONECT   139   14
CONECT   14   13   15   16
CONECT   15   14
CONECT   16   14
CONECT   17   18
CONECT   18   17   19
CONECT   19   18   20
CONECT   20   19   21
CONECT   21   20   22
CONECT   22   21   23
CONECT   23   22   24   45
CONECT   24   23   25
CONECT   25   24   26   29
CONECT   26   25   27   28
CONECT   27   26
CONECT   28   26
CONECT   29   25   307
CONECT   30   29   31   32
CONECT   31   30
CONECT   32   30
CONECT   33   34
CONECT   34   33   35
CONECT   35   34   36
CONECT   36   35   37
CONECT   37   36   38
CONECT   38   37   39
CONECT   39   38   40
CONECT   40   39   41
CONECT   41   40   42   45
CONECT   42   41   43   44
CONECT   43   42
CONECT   44   42
CONECT   45   41   46   23
CONECT   46   45   47   48
CONECT   47   46
CONECT   48   46
END
and the .rtp

[ DRG ]   ; unidad
[ atoms ]
  CAA  CH30.00
  CAB  CH20.00
  CAC  CH20.00
  CAD  CH20.00
  CAE  CH20.00
  CAF  CH20.00
  CAG  CH10.00
  CAH  CH20.04
  CAI  CH10.10
  CAJC0.35
  OAK   OM   -0.75
  OAL   OM   -0.75
  CAM  CH20.04
  CANC0.37
  OAO   OM   -0.70
  OAP   OM   -0.70
[ bonds ]
  CAM -CAG
  CAA  CAB
  CAB  CAC
  CAC  CAD
  CAD  CAE
  CAE  CAF
  CAF  CAG
  CAG  CAH
  CAH  CAI
  CAI  CAJ
  CAI  CAM
  CAJ  OAK
  CAJ  OAL
  CAM  CAN
  CAN  OAO
  CAN  OAP
  CAG +CAM
[ impropers ]
  CAG  CAF -CAM  C
 -CAM -CAN -CAI  C
  CAJ  CAI  OAL  O
  CAN  CAM  OAP  O
  CAI  CAH  CAJ  C

[ DR0 ]   ;head of
[ atoms ]
  CA1  CH30.00
  CA2  CH20.00
  CA3  CH20.00
  CA4  CH20.00
  CA5  CH20.00
  CA6  CH20.00
  CA7  CH20.00
  CA8  CH2  

Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Abraham

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



nicegromacs wrote:


  CAG -CAM


Defining a bond to a previous residue will certainly fail for at least 
one terminus of your polymer chain.  You may find this post useful:


http://oldwww.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-March/040125.html


I don't have any relevant experience, but the quoted .rtp might be using 
a technique suited for creating a circular/infinite polymer, which would 
cause the present problem. Finite polymers need capping residues, either 
explicitly defined, or using the .tdb mechanism. See chapter 5.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] bad bond in polymer

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Abraham

nicegromacs wrote:
Well, I tried to build a polymer with 3 monomers, DRG DR0 and DR1. In 
the pdb file They have the same order (DRG DR0 DR1).  But when tried 
with pdb2gmx then I have the error:

Fatal error:
In the .rtp file in residue DR1 at line:
  CF1   CH3   0   1


There is no such line in the .rtp you provided. GROMACS would normally 
provide more diagnostic information than this. Are you reading it all? 
Are you using the right .rtp files?


I changed the order of monomers to DR0 DRG DR1 with respect to the 
''head'' monomer (DR0), Monomer of in the middle (DRG), and tail monomer 
(DR1), and the error no change. I have not changed the .hdb file.


the estructure.ent
HETATM1  CAA DRG 1  58.110  44.852  36.809


This first residue listed is named as for your repeating unit. You need 
to make sure the residue naming here matches your connectivity plan.


Mark


HETATM2  CAB DRG 1  56.934  44.517  35.875
HETATM3  CAC DRG 1  56.190  45.811  35.500
HETATM4  CAD DRG 1  55.051  45.476  34.520
HETATM5  CAE DRG 1  54.318  46.770  34.118
HETATM6  CAF DRG 1  53.310  46.438  33.003
HETATM7  CAG DRG 1  52.657  47.686  32.473
HETATM8  CAH DRG 1  53.521  48.753  31.851
HETATM9  CAI DRG 1  54.199  48.265  30.599
HETATM   10  CAJ DRG 1  55.615  47.887  30.630
HETATM   11  OAK DRG 1  56.231  47.370  29.495
HETATM   12  OAL DRG 1  56.359  48.028  31.798
HETATM   13  CAM DRG 1  53.423  48.169  29.314
HETATM   14  CAN DRG 1  52.529  46.963  29.306
HETATM   15  OAO DRG 1  53.058  45.698  29.542
HETATM   16  OAP DRG 1  51.206  47.090  28.902
HETATM   17  CA1 DR0 1  43.743  50.975  25.947
HETATM   18  CA2 DR0 1  44.674  51.739  26.906
HETATM   19  CA3 DR0 1  45.313  50.749  27.897
HETATM   20  CA4 DR0 1  46.248  51.508  28.856
HETATM   21  CA5 DR0 1  46.862  50.512  29.856
HETATM   22  CA6 DR0 1  47.789  51.264  30.830
HETATM   23  CA7 DR0 1  48.356  50.315  31.851
HETATM   24  CA8 DR0 1  49.361  49.293  31.385
HETATM   25  CA9 DR0 1  50.545  49.110  32.302
HETATM   26  C10 DR0 1  51.122  50.259  33.020
HETATM   27  O12 DR0 1  50.919  51.560  32.571
HETATM   28  O11 DR0 1  51.877  50.069  34.174
HETATM   29  C13 DR0 1  51.189  47.782  32.378
HETATM   30  C14 DR0 1  50.382  46.559  32.210
HETATM   31  O16 DR0 1  50.972  45.336  31.910
HETATM   32  O15 DR0 1  48.997  46.595  32.315
HETATM   33  CF1 DR1 1  55.642  46.172  39.128
HETATM   34  CF2 DR1 1  54.229  46.780  39.194
HETATM   35  CF3 DR1 1  53.591  46.765  37.791
HETATM   36  CF4 DR1 1  52.185  47.384  37.876
HETATM   37  CF5 DR1 1  51.526  47.395  36.484
HETATM   38  CF6 DR1 1  50.134  48.044  36.601
HETATM   39  CF7 DR1 1  49.475  48.098  35.212
HETATM   40  CF8 DR1 1  48.132  48.846  35.298
HETATM   41  CF9 DR1 1  47.562  49.035  33.918
HETATM   42  C1F DR1 1  46.647  48.028  33.366
HETATM   43  O3F DR1 1  46.397  46.849  34.062
HETATM   44  O2F DR1 1  45.998  48.241  32.154
HETATM   45  C4F DR1 1  47.798  50.304  33.215
HETATM   46  C5F DR1 1  47.426  51.565  33.874
HETATM   47  O7F DR1 1  47.843  52.791  33.365
HETATM   48  O6F DR1 1  46.661  51.551  35.036
CONECT12
CONECT213
CONECT324
CONECT435
CONECT546
CONECT657
CONECT768   29
CONECT879
CONECT98   10   13
CONECT   109   11   12
CONECT   11   10
CONECT   12   10
CONECT   139   14
CONECT   14   13   15   16
CONECT   15   14
CONECT   16   14
CONECT   17   18
CONECT   18   17   19
CONECT   19   18   20
CONECT   20   19   21
CONECT   21   20   22
CONECT   22   21   23
CONECT   23   22   24   45
CONECT   24   23   25
CONECT   25   24   26   29
CONECT   26   25   27   28
CONECT   27   26
CONECT   28   26
CONECT   29   25   307
CONECT   30   29   31   32
CONECT   31   30
CONECT   32   30
CONECT   33   34
CONECT   34   33   35
CONECT   35   34   36
CONECT   36   35   37
CONECT   37   36   38
CONECT   38   37   39
CONECT   39   38   40
CONECT   40   39   41
CONECT   41   40   42   45
CONECT   42   41   43   44
CONECT   43   42
CONECT   44   42
CONECT   45   41   46   23
CONECT   46   45   47   48
CONECT   47   46
CONECT   48   46
END
and the .rtp

[ DRG ]   ; unidad
[ atoms ]
  CAA  CH30.00
  CAB  CH20.00
  CAC  CH20.00
  CAD  CH20.00
  CAE  CH20.00
  CAF  CH20.00
  CAG  CH10.00
  CAH  CH20.04
  CAI  CH10.10
  CAJC0.35
  OAK   OM   -0.75
  OAL   OM   -0.75
  CAM  CH20.04
  CANC0.37
  OAO   OM   -0.70
  OAP   OM   -0.70
[ bonds ]
  CAM -CAG
  CAA  CAB
  CAB  CAC
  CAC  CAD
  CAD  CAE
  CAE  CAF
  CAF  CAG
  CAG  CAH
  CAH  CAI
  CAI  CAJ
  

Re: [gmx-users] problem installing gromacs

2009-08-12 Thread Samik Bhattacharya


--- On Thu, 13/8/09, st y1...@ucsd.edu wrote:

From: st y1...@ucsd.edu
Subject: [gmx-users] problem installing gromacs
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 1:42 AM



 
Hi There,
 
I have some problems 
installing gromacs on the linux server. 
 
fftw installed with no error, but when I install 
gromacs,
I got the following error:
*
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link 
cc  -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused 
-funroll-all-loops  -L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib   -o grompp 
grompp.o libgmxpreprocess_d.la ../mdlib/l
cc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused -funroll-all-loops -o .libs/grompp 
grompp.o  -L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib ./.libs/libgmxpreprocess_d.a 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib ../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so /n
_d.so -lnsl -lfftw3 -lm -lSM 
-lICE -lX11  -Wl,--rpath 
-Wl,/home/y1gao/soft/gromacs//lib
.../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined 
reference to `__libm_sse2_sincos'
.../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined 
reference to `__libm_sse2_log'
.../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference 
to `_intel_fast_memcpy'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** 
[grompp] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src/kernel'
make[2]: 
*** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
make[1]: *** 
[all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
make: *** 
[all-recursive] Error 1
***
 
I used the combinations of the following fftw and 
gromacs:
fftw 3.2.1; fftw3.2.2
gromacs 3.3.3; gromacs 4.0.4
 
gcc version 3.4.6
 


try with make links after make install of gromacs. probably this may help.
good luck



The command I used are:
*
To install fftw:
 $ ./configure 
--enable-threads --enable-sse2 -prefix 
/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib
 $ make
$ make install
 
To install gromacs:
$ ./configure --enable-shared 
LDFLAGS='-L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib' 
CPPFLAGS='-I/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/include' 
--enable-double --prefix=/home/y1gao/soft/gromacs/
$ make
$ make install
( error comes out here)
 
*
 
Could anyone help me find a way out? Thanks in 
advance.
 
Stone
 
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Re: [gmx-users] problem installing gromacs

2009-08-12 Thread Mark Abraham

Samik Bhattacharya wrote:


--- On Thu, 13/8/09, st y1...@ucsd.edu wrote:

From: st y1...@ucsd.edu
Subject: [gmx-users] problem installing gromacs
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 1:42 AM



 
Hi There,
 
I have some problems 
installing gromacs on the linux server. 
 
fftw installed with no error, but when I install 
gromacs,

I got the following error:
*
/bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link 
cc  -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused 
-funroll-all-loops  -L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib   -o grompp 
grompp.o libgmxpreprocess_d.la ../mdlib/l
cc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-finline-functions -Wall -Wno-unused -funroll-all-loops -o .libs/grompp 
grompp.o  -L/home/y1gao/soft/fftw/lib ./.libs/libgmxpreprocess_d.a 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib ../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so /n
_d.so -lnsl -lfftw3 -lm -lSM 
-lICE -lX11  -Wl,--rpath 
-Wl,/home/y1gao/soft/gromacs//lib
.../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined 
reference to `__libm_sse2_sincos'
.../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined 
reference to `__libm_sse2_log'
.../mdlib/.libs/libmd_d.so: undefined reference 
to `_intel_fast_memcpy'

collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** 
[grompp] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src/kernel'
make[2]: 
*** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
make[1]: *** 
[all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/nas/y1gao/installation_files/gromacs-4.0.4/gromacs-4.0.4/src'
make: *** 
[all-recursive] Error 1

***
 
I used the combinations of the following fftw and 
gromacs:

fftw 3.2.1; fftw3.2.2
gromacs 3.3.3; gromacs 4.0.4
 
gcc version 3.4.6
 



try with make links after make install of gromacs. probably this may help.
good luck


No. The object-linking process is failing. So making file system 
symlinks after object-linking and installation will not help.


Mark
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[gmx-users] Exotic metal species

2009-08-12 Thread Lili Peng
Der all,

I'd like to know if any has had experience in using GROMACS for modeling
exotic metal species like Gadolinium(III) and Indium(III)?  My system is
actually an Indium(III) ion coupled to  DTPA
(diethylenetriaminepentaacetate), an octadentate ligand forms bonds with
metals through three atoms of nitrogen and five atoms of oxygen.  I've
consulted the Gromacs wiki (
http://www.gromacs.org/WIKI-import/Exotic_Species) and it suggests that I
consult someone with expertise in this area.  Has anyone had any
(successful?) experience in this effort?

Thanks,
Lili
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[gmx-users] error:Segmentation fault

2009-08-12 Thread 郭建路
Hello everyone
I am doing MD on a protein, and everything including the EM seems to go well. 
When I start to do the position restrained MD (or even directly the MD without 
doing the PR MD), I get a Segmentation fault. 

when a doing EM,I set  nsteps = 500,because i just want to go though the  
procedures,but there is a result:

Steepest Descents did not converge to Fmax  1000 in 501 steps.

 i go on the grompp pr.mdp and mdrun command, Segmentation fault comes 
up.details as followed:

Step -2, time -0.004 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 0.060225 (between atoms 4110 and 4112) rms 0.001990
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
starting mdrun 'CYP2W1_CYSHEME in water'
100 steps,  0.2 ps.


Step 0, time 0 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 20.941092 (between atoms 4012 and 4013) rms 0.630786
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
   4008   4010   59.80.1470   0.2246  0.1470
   4010   4011   87.30.1536   1.1098  0.1530
   4010   4023   56.20.1530   0.2198  0.1530



 so much atoms number
  Warning: 1-4 interaction between 4008 and 4012 at distance 1.404 which is 
larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file

Step 1, time 0.002 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
max 10879059641262569160704.00 (between atoms 4029 and 4030) rms 
157073328433382031360.00
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:

 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
933935   38.70.1330   0.1811  0.1330
935936   41.30.1000   0.1411  0.1000

so much atoms number

   4210   4212   52.30.1330   0.2032  0.1330
   4212   4213   30.80.1000   0.1209  0.1000

Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
[localhost:09678] *** Process received signal ***
[localhost:09678] Signal: Segmentation fault (11)
[localhost:09678] Signal code: Address not mapped (1)
[localhost:09678] Failing at address: 0x5ad01b00
[localhost:09678] [ 0] /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 [0xab68b0]
[localhost:09678] [ 1] mdrun(do_nonbonded+0x349) [0x816d4a1]
[localhost:09678] *** End of error message ***
Segmentation fault


 I have been trying to solve this problem for quite some time now. It  would be 
very helpful if you can suggest some way to work around  this problem.
thanks!

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