[gmx-users] separation of two strands of DNA during of simulation

2010-05-30 Thread shahab shariati
Dear Justin

thanks for your attention.

You said that separation of two strands of DNA during of simulation is a
normal consequence of periodic boundary conditions. I had used periodic
boundary condition in mdp file as following:

Periodic boundary conditions:
pbc  = xyz

Should I delete pbc from mdp file?

Whether elimination of pbc prevents separation of two strand of DNA?


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Re: [gmx-users] separation of two strands of DNA during of simulation

2010-05-30 Thread Mark Abraham
- Original Message -
From: shahab shariati shahab.shari...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010 16:28
Subject: [gmx-users] separation of two strands of DNA during of simulation
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Dear Justin
  
 thanks for your attention.
  
 You said that separation of two strands of DNA during of simulation is a 
 normal consequence of periodic boundary conditions. I had used periodic 
 boundary condition in mdp file as following:

No, he didn't say separation was a consequence of PBC. *Apparent* separation 
can be. I'm sure he provided this link, but make sure you read it, please :-) 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions

Mark
  
 Periodic boundary conditions:
 pbc  = xyz
  
 Should I delete pbc from mdp file?
  
 Whether elimination of pbc prevents separation of two strand of DNA?
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[gmx-users] umbrella sampling

2010-05-30 Thread chris . neale

Dear Qian:

Debiasing equations for this can be found by analogy to eq. 16 and 17  
in the the original Torrie and Valleau US paper: Nonphysical sampling  
distributions in Monte Carlo free-energy estimation: Umbrella sampling.


Alternatively, I used a simple method in  
doi:10.1016/j.cplett.2008.05.099 which was to run 2-dimensional WHAM  
with my quantity of interest as the second dimension, but assigning  
this second dimension a force constant of zero.


Be careful with either method, though, as apparent convergence of the  
free energy does not imply convergence of all other observables.


Chris.

-- original message --

Hi,

I am using Gromacs 4.0.5 for umbrella sampling. I know that I can use  
g_wham to calculate the free energy along the constrained distance. Is  
there a command in Gromacs 4.0.5 that can calculates the average of  
any other obserble (for example, potential energy) along the  
constrained distance? Thanks a lot.


Sincerely,
Qian


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[gmx-users] add missing atom

2010-05-30 Thread chris . neale
While Mark's answer is entirely complete, I'll just add one more idea  
in case you don't know where to put the OG.


1. Go into your .gro file and change the SER to an ALA
2. pdb2gmx to place the hydrogens around the CB
3. EM
4a. Copy the EM output .gro file into 3 directories, and in each one  
of them mutate the ALA back to SER, successively replacing a different  
HB atom with the OG atom.

4. pdb2gmx to place the hydrogen on the SG
4c. EM
5. Now look at your structures and see if one of them makes any more  
sense than the others. If you can't tell, then you can run some MD on  
each and ensure that they interconvert. If it's a really essential SER  
(like in a binding pocket), you could calculate PMF about chi1.


It all depends on how important it is to get the equilibrium location  
of that OG atom -- and it is at least possible that it is very  
important (Not only for binding FE calculations, but potentially for  
conformation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11053148).


Chris.

-- original message --

I have one question about adding atoms that are missing in residue.  
This atom is OG in SER amino acid. I don't know how can I add this  
atom to my residue. If I have to add this atom manually how can I  
find coordinates of that? Or If there is server or software to do  
this I will be happy if you suggest me its.


There's no automated GROMACS tool, and I haven't used any other  
particular tool for the task. For just one atom + hydrogen, you're  
probably fine to guess approximate coordinates and use EM to fix it.


Mark


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[gmx-users] SPC/E water RDF

2010-05-30 Thread chris . neale

Dear Francisco:

1. gromacs already has an spce.itp file. Try using that one directly  
and see if your answer changes. If it does, then one file is in error.


2. the density of spc/e is not 1g/cc. First thing, you should try to  
reproduce an RDF from the literature for which you use exactly the  
same conditions. You mention NPT so try it. Also, be sure that you are  
using the same cutoffs/PME/etc.


2b. If you can get the published RDF in part 2, then you can try  
varying one condition at a time, e.g. take your density-equilibrated  
NPT box and try running some NVT and ensure that you still get the  
correct RDF.


Chris.

-- original message --

Dear users,

Since I'm new to MD, I coded SPC/E water in the NVT emsemble.

Basic ingredients:

(1) Number of water molecules N=216
(2)   Mass of O = 16
  Mass of H = 1
(3)   Box density (Periodic Boundary Condition) is exactly 1g/cc (L
=18.6205 Angstrom)
(4)   SPC/E LJ parameters from Berendsen's original 1987 paper
(5)   Coulomb interaction: Ewald sum
  Real space ewald: Minimum image convention
  Ewald convergence parameter for reciprocal sum = 5/L (L is the
box length in Ang)
  Fourier cut-off for ewald reciprocal sum |G| =2*pi*|n|/L, where |n|  27
(6)   Nose-Hoover chain NVT (single chain, single thermostat per chain)
(7) Time step 1 fs, velocity verlet solver, RATTLE was used to
constrain bond lengths and angle, and correct velocities.
(8) 100 ps equlibration, 400 ps production (configuration was saved  
every 25 fs)



Everything is fine (energies are stable, etc.) except the second peak
in the O-O rdf.
The first peak is fine but my second peak seems flat. I find this
troubling since
all the rdfs I've seen in literature as well the experimental plot
have a well-defined
second peak. I must mention that in all the papers I've seen the
ensemble is NPT (I've not seen NVT yet). In any case, I was expecting  
my result

to match previously published results closely.

Can anyone point out what I am doing wrong?? Is NVT not a good ensemble
for water simulation?? I'll appreciate it if someone can refer me to a paper
that discusses this.


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[gmx-users] Solvation Free Energy Calculation

2010-05-30 Thread chris . neale

Dear Emanuel:

We need you to be much more specific.

1. What link?
2. Even though it might be in the link, you should still provide us  
with a general protocol that you followed.


Chris.

-- original message --

I am using Gromacs to calculate solvation of free energy calculation.  
First I tried the tutorial I found on the following link and run all  
the simulations for different lambda values 36 run for both in water  
and in vacuum and I got 25215.67 is gromacs calculate this in J or KJ?  
Even if it in J its way far from the toluene solvation of free energy  
(-3.1KJ/mol). I got some warnings while I was running the g_analyze  
which says  tau2 is longer than the length of the data (100) invalid  
fit (statistics might be bad) will fix tau2 at the total time 100, I  
got this warning for few runs not for all the runs.



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[gmx-users] mpi-run

2010-05-30 Thread nanogroup
Dear GMX Users,

I want to run Gromacs on a multiprocessor PC.

The MPI files are correctly installed and the gromacs is also configured.

However, at the end of configuration section, an Error appears that the FFTW 
can not be found!

Indeed, the FFTW is already installed but the configuration can not locate it!

Would you please help me to locate the fftw!

Many thanks
Mahmoud




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Re: [gmx-users] mpi-run

2010-05-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nanogroup wrote:

Dear GMX Users,

I want to run Gromacs on a multiprocessor PC.

The MPI files are correctly installed and the gromacs is also configured.

However, at the end of configuration section, an Error appears that the 
FFTW can not be found!


Indeed, the FFTW is already installed but the configuration can not 
locate it!


Would you please help me to locate the fftw!


Please follow the installation instructions, most notably the information in the 
Configuration section:


http://www.gromacs.org/index.php?title=Download_%26_Installation/Installation_Instructions#Configuration

If you're still having difficulty, please provide more detail, like the actual 
commands you're issuing, where FFTW is installed, and what the actual error 
messages are.


-Justin



Many thanks
Mahmoud




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[gmx-users] template.c

2010-05-30 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Hello all !!

I was playing around with template.c and stuck in a problem.
In the program inside the do loop i.e;

 /* This is the main loop over frames */
  do {
/* coordinates are available in the vector fr.x
 * you can find this and all other structures in
 * the types directory under the gromacs include dir.
 * Note how flags determines wheter to read x/v/f!
 */
printf (%8.3f\n, fr.time);
 if (fr.time == (4000.000 + (50.0 * inc)))
printf (test);
{
for (ra=0; rai;ra++)
  {

  }
} inc ++;

  }while (read_next_frame(status,fr));

The 1st printf statement do prints the frame time. While the 2nd printf
inside  the if loop doesnt print any thing, meaning that the if condition is
not being satisfied. I want to execute the statements under if loop after
each 50 ps time.

Can some point out what wrong am I doing.

Thanks




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Re: [gmx-users] template.c

2010-05-30 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 21:43 +0530, Chandan Choudhury wrote:
 Hello all !!
 
 
 I want to execute the statements under if loop after each 50 ps time.


I'd just forget any if clauses in the loop and run the program with -dt
50, which gives the same result.

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[gmx-users] RE:Missing atoms

2010-05-30 Thread lloyd riggs
- Original Message -
From: you zou zou@live.com
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010 14:41
Subject: [gmx-users] add missing atom
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi everyone,


 I have one question about adding atoms that are missing in residue. This atom 
 is OG in SER amino acid. I don't know how can I add this atom to my residue. 
 If I have to add this atom manually how can I find coordinates of that? Or If 
 there is server or software to do this I will be happy if you suggest me its.

If there are more than one or two residues or pieces missing, just use O or 
Pymol to mutate the residues to the same residues, and the saved pdb has all 
the missing atoms.  Then do a quick EM run.

Stephan Watkins
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Re: [gmx-users] template.c

2010-05-30 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Chandan,

The problem is that with floating points the equality in

  if (fr.time == (4000.000 + (50.0 * inc)))

is very unlikely to be satisfied at any time. To compare floating
point numbers, you'll have to check whether the value is within a
certain interval. But Jussi's approach is far more convenient in this
particular case.

Cheers,

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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 73, Issue 193 (mpi-run)

2010-05-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nanogroup wrote:

Dear Justin

Many thanks for your response

This is the exact phrase:


Use CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS if the library is installed in a
non-standard location. (see FAQ at http://www.gromacs.org)

If you dont care about performance you can also specify 'fftpack'
to use a slower set of FFTs built into Gromacs.
(Just install FFTW3 unless you really know what you are doing).



But I am realy mixed up by defining the fftw!




Without seeing what you're doing, no one can help you.  I asked before that you 
provide the exact commands that you're issuing, as well as a description of what 
you've installed and where.  If you want free help, you have to make it easy for 
us to help you.


The above quote provides useful information, but there's even an example of how 
to set CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS on the same page.


Also, please do not reply to the entire digest.  Cut and paste relevant portions 
if necessary, and set an appropriate subject line.  This helps to avoid a lot of 
junk in the archive.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] fftw library problem in gromacs installation

2010-05-30 Thread jagannath mondal
Hi ,  I am having a problem in installing gromacs-4  in a suse linux in a 
powerpc ibm machine. The problem is that 
1.  I first  installed fftw in the following way :for single 
precision./configure --enable-float --enable-threads 
--prefix=/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftwmakemake install
Then for double precisionmake distclean./configure  --enable-threads 
--prefix=/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftwmakemake install
2. It installed both of them :
3. Now, when I tried to install gromacs4
./configure --prefix=/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/gromacs_mod_4_gcc/ 
--enable-mpi --program-suffix=mod_4mpi 
CPPFLAGS=-I/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/include 
LDFLAGS=-L/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/lib --without-x

Here the mpi version is openmpi
I get following error:configure: error: Cannot find fftw3f libraryBut, as you 
may see I have specified the fftw library in configure script
So, I went inside config.log file and found the following error:
mpicc -o conftest  -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wall 
-Wno-unused -maltivec -mabi=altivec -std=gnu99 -mcpu=7450 -mtune=970 
-I/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/include -maltivec -mabi=altivec 
-L/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/lib  conftest.c -lfftw3f  -lm  
5/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible 
/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/lib/libfftw3f.a when searching for 
-lfftw3f/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfftw3f

Looks like there is an incompatibility of mpicc with the fftw library and it 
may cause some problem. But , I do not know how to resolve this incompatibiilty.
Any help will be really appreciated .ThanksJagannath


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Re: [gmx-users] fftw library problem in gromacs installation

2010-05-30 Thread Mark Abraham
- Original Message -
From: jagannath mondal jmondal2...@yahoo.co.in
Date: Monday, May 31, 2010 5:44
Subject: [gmx-users] fftw library problem in gromacs installation
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

Thanks for the detailed post.

|  Hi ,  I am having a problem in installing gromacs-4  in a suse linux in a 
powerpc ibm machine. The problem is that  
 1.  I first  installed fftw in the following way : for single precision 
 ./configure --enable-float --enable-threads 
 --prefix=/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw make make install 
 Then for double precision make distclean ./configure  --enable-threads 
 --prefix=/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw make make install 
 2. It installed both of them : 
 3. Now, when I tried to install gromacs4 
 ./configure --prefix=/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/gromacs_mod_4_gcc/ 
 --enable-mpi --program-suffix=mod_4mpi
 CPPFLAGS=-I/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/include 
LDFLAGS=-L/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/lib --without-x 
 
 Here the mpi version is openmpi 
 I get following error: configure: error: Cannot find fftw3f library But, as 
 you may see I have specified the fftw library in configure script 
 So, I went inside config.log file and found the following error: 
 mpicc -o conftest  -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wall 
 -Wno-unused -maltivec -mabi=altivec -std=gnu99 -mcpu=7450 -mtune=970 
 -I/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/include -maltivec -mabi=altivec 
 -L/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/lib  conftest.c -lfftw3f  -lm  5 
 /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible 
 /N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/fftw/lib/libfftw3f.a when searching for -lfftw3f 
 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find
 -lfftw3f 
 
 Looks like there is an incompatibility of mpicc with the fftw library and it 
 may cause some problem. But , I do not know how to resolve this 
 incompatibiilty. 

Yes. For some reason mpicc (which is normally a wrapper for some other 
compiler) is finding but not liking the libfftw3f.a. You could try installing 
FFTW with --enable-shared, in case your linker will only do shared libraries, 
or something. Alternatively, find out whether the compiler will ever link to 
static libraries, and if not, probably get a new compiler. The problem could 
also be with a broken MPI library. Talk to your system admins - this problem 
looks like it is not specific to GROMACS.

Mark
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[gmx-users] gromacs installation problem in ibm powerpc system

2010-05-30 Thread Sanku M
Hi,
  I am having a problem in a cluster which is IBM  PowerPC 970MPs and running 
SUSE linux and it has IBM XL  C  Fortran compliers ( xlf, xlc ).
I was trying to install gromacs 4 there using open-mpi which is already 
installed using ibm compilers.
Here is my configure command:

./configure --prefix=/N/u/tg-jmondal/BigRed/UTIL/gromacs_mod_4_gcc/ 
--enable-mpi --program-suffix=mod_4mpi 
CPPFLAGS=-I/N/soft/linux-sles9-ppc64/fftw3-64-single/include 
LDFLAGS=-L/N/soft/linux-sles9-ppc64/fftw3-64-single/lib/ --without-x CC=xlc 
F77=xlf CXX=xlc++

The configuration part went OK.
But when I wrote make,
it fails with following error:
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 42.44: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text p_nri 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 42.76: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text iinr 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 42.102: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text jindex 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 43.70: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text jjnr 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 43.98: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text shift 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 43.124: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text 
shiftvec encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 44.70: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text fshift 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 44.98: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text gid 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 44.124: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text pos 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 45.70: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text faction 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 45.98: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text charge 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 45.123: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text p_facel 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 46.69: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text p_krf 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 46.100: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text p_crf 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 46.130: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text Vc 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 47.70: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text type 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 47.96: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text p_ntype 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 47.126: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text 
vdwparam encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 48.70: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text Vvdw 
encountered.
nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.h, line 48.97: 1506-275 (S) Unexpected text 
p_tabscale encountered.
make[5]: *** [nb_kernel010_ppc_altivec.lo] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/N/hd01/tg-jmondal/BigRed/GROMACS_MODIFIED/gromacs-4.0.5_gcc/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_ppc_altivec'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/N/hd01/tg-jmondal/BigRed/GROMACS_MODIFIED/gromacs-4.0.5_gcc/src/gmxlib/nonbonded'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/N/hd01/tg-jmondal/BigRed/GROMACS_MODIFIED/gromacs-4.0.5_gcc/src/gmxlib'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/N/hd01/tg-jmondal/BigRed/GROMACS_MODIFIED/gromacs-4.0.5_gcc/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/N/hd01/tg-jmondal/BigRed/GROMACS_MODIFIED/gromacs-4.0.5_gcc/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Not sure what it means. Any help to resolve the issue will be highly 
appreciated.

Sanku



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