[gmx-users] Energy minimization: problems with ramachanrad score

2010-06-17 Thread chris . neale
This does not imply that less EM is better than more EM. It implies  
that the native structure is not necessarily in an absolute energy  
minimum according to our FF's. This is certainly true. We could take  
the point of view that when an experimentalist refers to as a native  
structure is actually a model that fits a particular electron density  
map and another crystal form is bound to differ, but I guess we all  
know that our FF's are less accurate than this difference so it's  
probably a moot point.


EM with MM FF's is not rubbish. It's important and it has its place.  
So randomizing a structure and running EM doesn't take you back to the  
original minimum? sure, this is why we call the energy surface rugged.


To get back to your homology modeling, I would always suspect that you  
will need to run MD in order to explore conformational space. Homology  
modeling is not my strong suit, but I've seen cases experimentally  
where a single amino acid mutation can destabilize a folded protein  
and cause it to be unfolded (and vice-versa), so in that light I'm  
still astounded that homology modeling works at all.


Sorry to be a little vague, but then again you didn't really ask a  
specific question, unless plasmatic is a real word...


Chris.



-- original message --

I 'm trying to relax my homology models from steric clashes, and while
searching for the appropriate minimization scheme, I came across this old
thread:

http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-April/027043.html

The authors in the cited paper have created near-native structures as a test
set with RMSD 1.06 ± 0.14 Å over the native ones. Then they ran energy
minimization in vacuo with l-bfgs for 1 steps or until convergence to
machine precision and they found that ordinary MM potentials (AMBER99,
OPLS-AA, GROMOS96, and ENCAD) showed no significant improvement on the
structures. On the contrary the last 3 were found to move the conformation
away from the native state by 11%, 40%, and 44% respectively. They also
tested their own 3 hybrid Knowledge-Based / Molecular Mechanics (KB/MM)
potentials and found that the best performing was moving the structures by
11% closer to the native fold.

Essentially they claimed that energy minimization with the ordinary MM
potentials is rubbish! I have one remark to make on this. Their decoy set
comprised no-native protein conformers with RMSD ~1A. I'm wondering if the
results will be similar for RMSDs ~3A as in my case where I'm building
homology models with average sequence identity to templates 25-30%?

And with respect to the original question, if you overdo it with energy
minimization the Ramachandran scores do deteriorate. However if you stop at
an intermediate step you can get the same score, bond lengths and angles but
with less steric clashes. Is this improvement plasmatic as the authors
claim, namely you have moved away from the native fold although
stereochemically the model look good?
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Re: Subject: [gmx-users] error compiling mopac and gromacs

2010-06-17 Thread subarna thakur
According to the suggestion I have installed the f2c package in my machine.I am 
unable to find the g2c package. I have included the f2c library by - export 
LIBS=-lmopac -lf2c. But when I running  ./configure --with-qmmm-mopac 
--disable-float , an error is comming C compiler cannot create executable. The 
config.log file shows the following section- 
onfigure:3413: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:3440: cc -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_MOPAC -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c 
-lmopac -lf2c 5
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.3/../../../../lib/libf2c.so: undefined 
reference to `MAIN__'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:3443: $? = 1
configure:3481: result:
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h. */ 
Please suggest a way out.Subarna Thakur






From: Gerrit Groenhof ggro...@gwdg.de
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sat, 12 June, 2010 3:36:54 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: [gmx-users] error compiling mopac and gromacs



Depending on how your libmopac.a was biuld, you need the to include the f2c or 
g2c library as well.

Gerrit



 Message: 5
 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:33:02 +0530 (IST)
 From: subarna thakur thakur.suba...@yahoo.co.in
 Subject: [gmx-users] error compiling  mopac and gromacs
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Message-ID: 371899.78968...@web95516.mail.in.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Hi 
 I am trying to link mopac with gromacs in a 32 bit linux machine. I have 
 downloaded the libmopac.a file and kept it under /usr/local/lib. I installed 
 fftw with double precision and then I set the enviornmental variables for 
 linking mopac and gromacs 
 export LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib  -Wl,--wrap,__ctype_b
 export CPPFLAGS=/usr/local/include -DUSE_MOPAC
 export LIBS=lmopac
 
 then I have ran the ./configure --with-qmmm-mopac --disable-float.It seems to 
 run ok.Then I used the make command but an error is comming as follows-
 /usr/local/lib/libmopac.a(lread.o)(.text+0x160): In function `e_rsle':
 : undefined reference to `__wrap___ctype_b'
 /usr/local/lib/libmopac.a(lread.o)(.text+0x21f): In function `e_rsle':
 : undefined reference to `__wrap___ctype_b'
 /usr/local/lib/libmopac.a(lread.o)(.text+0x296): In function `e_rsle':
 : undefined reference to `__wrap___ctype_b'
 /usr/local/lib/libmopac.a(lread.o)(.text+0x2d0): In function `e_rsle':
 : undefined reference to `__wrap___ctype_b'
 /usr/local/lib/libmopac.a(lread.o)(.text+0x8b2): In function `e_rsle':
 : undefined reference to `__wrap___ctype_b'
 /usr/local/lib/libmopac.a(lread.o)(.text+0xb05): more undefined references to 
 `__wrap___ctype_b' follow
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[3]: *** [grompp] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/gromacs-4.0.3/src/kernel'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/gromacs-4.0.3/src'
 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/gromacs-4.0.3/src'
 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  
 Please suggest where I have gone wrong.
  Subarna Thakur
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Electric field, potential, dielectric constant

2010-06-17 Thread Ran Friedman
Hi,
You may want to use a Poisson-Boltzmann solver, e.g., APBS for this purpose.
Ran

Vladimir Lankevich wrote:
 Dear Gromacs Users,

 I have several questions about electrostatics in Gromacs.
 I am simulating two proteins in water, separated by certain distance,
 and was interested in their electrostatic interactions.

 I was wondering if Gromacs can calculate and show me values of
 electric field or electric potential at any point within the volume.
 If yes, how can this be done?

 I looked through the manual and did not find much. I tried using
 g_potential, but it only gives me ten values for electric field (if I
 use 10 slices, and particular direction).
 This confused me, because I thought that in the system each coordinate
 would have different electric field.
 How should I interpret the results of g_potential?

 Also, can I use Gromacs to compute dielectric constant of a particular
 region within the volume? How can I do that?

 Thank you very much!!

 Cheers,
 Vladimir

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[gmx-users] calculate interfacial tension

2010-06-17 Thread kecy_wu
Hello, I want to calculate the interfacial tension of the oil/water interface . 
I use 2D periodic boundary along Z axis , 
I get the interfacialnbsp;teision from the .edr file (namely #Surf*SurfTen), 
it seems that the Surf*SurfTen is the total tension
nbsp;of the two interface ,is it that ?nbsp; Does it has any influence for I 
use the 2D periodic boundary along Z axis ?
nbsp;
Waiting fornbsp;your nbsp;reply eagerly.
nbsp;
Thank you !
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Re: [gmx-users] constraints bond length vari by 10%

2010-06-17 Thread Sebastian Waltz
Hi,

I did read the Documentation 5 times now, but I still not
get is what the shake_tol does tell me. I tried it with 10
values and can't figure out what it does. My CO bonds are
constraint. Otherwise I would have bigger variations of the
bond length. My .mdp file looks like this

constraints = none
constraint_algorithm= shake
shake_tol   = 0.05
unconstrained_start = no

My question is more how I can constrain the bond length
such that they vary only by a factor of +/- 0.0001. 

Thanks  


On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:01:04 +1000
 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sebastian Waltz
 sebastian.wa...@physik.uni-freiburg.de
 Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:23
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] constraints bond length vari by
 10%
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 gmx-users@gromacs.org
 
  Hi Mark,
  
  what I have written in the .top you can see in my first
  massage. 
 
 OK - but my suggestion was that it was put in the wrong
 *place* and I don't have enough information to say
 whether that's true.
 
  I actually don't know what to write what and in
  which .itp/.tpr file I have to add something and I also
  can't find something in the Internet. The documentation
 for
  the constraints is just bad.
 
 I understand your frustration, but documentation can't
 anticipate the answer to every question or it would be
 infinitely long. That fact doesn't make it bad. What the
 documentation can do is provide general instruction. If
 my guess is correct, then the worked example of a .top
 file in Chapter 5 will help you understand where
 [constraints] needs to go. Specifically, page 109 will
 point out that
 
 #include ffforcefield.itp
 [ moleculetype ]
 ...
 [atoms]
 ...
 
 #include water.itp
 
 [system]
 ...
 [molecules]
 ...
 
 [constraints]
 ...
 
 won't work.
 
 Section 5.5 has a worked example of how to use [settles]
 which are a kind of constraint, and work the same way.
 
 Once you've worked through this information, if you still
 have a problem with the documention, then a constructive
 suggestion for improvement would be welcome :-)
 
 Mark
 
  On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:05:20 +1000
   Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
   
   
   - Original Message -
   From: Sebastian Waltz
   sebastian.wa...@physik.uni-freiburg.de
   Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 22:09
   Subject: [gmx-users] constraints bond length vari by
 10%
   To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
   
Hi all,

I added constraints on some bonds in my system by
   adding 

[ constraints ]
;ai aj  typedistance
   40   41  1   0.1230
   47   48  1   0.1230
   54   55  1   0.1230
   61   62  1   0.1230

to me top file (CO double bonds) and in the mdp
 file 

constraints 
=  none

. I thought this should more or less fix my bond
   lengths.
Nether the less the bond lengths vary by 10%. Did I
   make
something or is it quite normal? What would be the
 way
   to
fix the bond length so that they vary only by ca.
 1%.
   
   You're using the right approach, but you've probably
 not
   put your [constraints] directive in the right
   [moleculetype], or used the wrong .top/.itp/.tpr file
 at
   some point.
   
   Mark
   
  
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[gmx-users] how to correct velocities in trajectory file

2010-06-17 Thread Dmitri Dubov
Dear gmx'ers,

I've done a long NVE simulation in vacuo. During this run I had to take care to 
diminish the total energy drift, so my choice was

comm_mode = None

Now, analysing a smaller subsystem (solute + shell of solvent) I want to 
exclude its COM movement. Sorry, I fail to find any instruction how to do it. 
Extracting the subset with

trjconv -f traj.trr -s -n my_index.ndx -o subset.trr -center 

centers the subsystem well. But as it can be checked with

g_traj -f subset.trr -s subset.tpb -n my_index.ndx -ov -ekt -ekr -com

the velocities in subset.trr remain unchanged.
Ideally I would like, first, to correct the atom velocities to zero COM 
velocity, and next to correct them to obtain zero angular momentum of my 
subsystem. Could anyone advise me how to correct properly the velocities in 
trr-file?

Thank you in advance,

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: His protonation

2010-06-17 Thread Rabab Toubar
So is there a way we can make His neutral before running the simulations as in 
case of NAMD?
Rabab Toubar



--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 Subject: [gmx-users] Re: His protonation
 To: sagar barage sagarbar...@gmail.com, Gromacs Users' List 
 gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:59 PM
 
 Please keep all Gromacs-related correspondence on the
 gmx-users list.  I am not a private tutor.
 
 sagar barage wrote:
  Dear sir,
          
    when i was done the MD of crystal
 structure the both nitrogen of immadazol ring of histidine
 is protonated
  which are not protonated in crystal structure.
 
 There are no protons in crystal structures.
 
           all histidine in
 structure contain single protonation but some Histidine is
 double protonated at both nitrogen
  why this happens in gromacs?
  
 
 Please read the manual information (or pdb2gmx -h) about
 how pdb2gmx attempts to add hydrogens to the input
 structure.
 
 -Justingm
 
  -- Sagar H. Barage
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 mailto:sagarbar...@gmail.com
 
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[gmx-users] System net charge

2010-06-17 Thread Rabab Toubar
I have noticed that you get the overall charge WHILE you are setting up the 
system - when using grompp I think. Now if after the mdrun and I want to check 
the overall charge, how can I possibly do that?
I tried the mailing list but didn't find an answer to my question

Thanks
Rabab Toubar



  

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Re: [gmx-users] System net charge

2010-06-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Rabab Toubar wrote:

I have noticed that you get the overall charge WHILE you are setting up the 
system - when using grompp I think. Now if after the mdrun and I want to check 
the overall charge, how can I possibly do that?
I tried the mailing list but didn't find an answer to my question


The net charge of any molecule (if processed by pdb2gmx) is printed in the 
topology at the end of the [atoms] directive.  Otherwise, take note of what 
grompp tells you and/or log all your output.


-Justin



Thanks
Rabab Toubar



  



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[gmx-users] Re: Parallel instalation: gmx-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 76

2010-06-17 Thread Carsten Kutzner
On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:42 PM, abdul wadood wrote:

 Dear Carsten 
 
 the command which i give is 
 
 mpiexec -l -np 4 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -s topol.tpr
 
 with this command the same error come which is 
 
 Can not open file:
 3: topol.tpr
 3: ---
Maybe . (the current directory) is not in your path. Either try

mpiexec -l -np 4 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -s ./topol.tpr

or give the full path name:

mpiexec -l -np 4 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -s  
/absolute/path/to/topol.tpr

Carsten



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[gmx-users] Enough hydration of the channel

2010-06-17 Thread Aswathy
Hi everyone,

I have a homology model of a transporter. I want to study the ligand
transport through the channel. i have done the following steps.

1. Ligand has docked to the mouth of the channel
2.  Inserted the complex in POPC bilayer, then solvated, and equilibrated
for 4ns(with position restarint on Protein  ligand)
3. Then I saw tht there are very few wtaer inside the pore, Since this
channel is an aqueous pore, I have added water to the channel using genbox.
4. Then the complete system equilibrated for pico seconds.
5,in order to select different snap shots for SMD (want to do a multiple
SMDs with different starting structures.) I have run 1ns Production run and
selected different frames.

Suddenly I found that still there is no enough water in the pore, the water
is moving away from the channel during step 4 5?

How can I solve this problem? Also how will I know how many water molecules
will be sufficient for the channel?

Thanks for your support.

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[gmx-users] large forces and monstrous water molecules in energy minimization step

2010-06-17 Thread Ehud Schreiber
Dear GROMACS users,

 

When trying to simulate a pair of interacting proteins in water, I have
encountered problems that ultimately resulted in the simulation
crashing. I then tried to simplify the system as far as possible while
retaining the problem; I now believe the problem (or at least a part of
it) lies in the energy minimization step (the first molecular dynamics
one). Specifically, the forces encountered during this step are very
large, and some water molecules (which are supposed to be rigid) become
giant and misshapen.

 

In more details:

1) I use GROMACS version 4.0.7, single precision, on a server with two
Intel x86-64 processors and the redhat 5.4 linux OS.

2) I created a PDB file, called NaCl.pdb, with only two atoms,
actually Na+ and Cl- ions separated by their distance in the lattice of
salt:

 

HET NA  A   1   1

HET CL  A   1   1

HETNAM  NA SODIUM ION

HETNAM  CL CHLORIDE ION 

FORMUL   1   NANA 1+

FORMUL   2   CLCL 1- 

HETATM1 NANA A   1  -1.410.0   0.01.00  0.0
NA

HETATM2 CLCL A   1  +1.410.0   0.01.00  0.0
CL 

 

3) I use the tip3p water model:

 

pdb2gmx -f NaCl.pdb -water tip3p

 

4) I create the box:

 

editconf -f conf.gro -bt dodecahedron -d 3.3 -o box.gro

 

5) I add water using spc216, creating the saltwater.gro file (which
seems O.K. by inspection):

 

genbox -cp box.gro -cs spc216.gro -p topol.top -o saltwater.gro

 

6) I create the energy minimization parameter file em.mdp:

 

--em.mdp--

integrator  = steep 

nsteps  = 200

nstlist = 10

rlist   = 1.0

coulombtype = pme

rcoulomb= 1.0

vdwtype = Cut-off

rvdw= 1.0

nstenergy   = 10

--

 

7) I prepare the em.tpr file for the energy minimization run:

 

grompp -f em.mdp -p topol.top -c saltwater.gro -o em.tpr

 

8) I run the energy minimization step:

 

mdrun -v -deffnm em

 

9) Looking at the em.log file I see that this step converged to machine
precision but did not have maximal force  10:

 

...

Enabling SPC water optimization for 7561 molecules.

...

Max number of connections per atom is 2

Total number of connections is 30244

Max number of graph edges per atom is 2

Total number of graph edges is 30244

Going to use C-settle (7561 waters)

wo = 0.33, wh =0.33, wohh = 3, rc = 0.075695, ra = 0.0390588

rb = 0.0195294, rc2 = 0.15139, rone = 1, dHH = 0.15139, dOH = 0.09572

...

Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.

Converged to machine precision,

but not to the requested precision Fmax  10

...

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 36 steps,

but did not reach the requested Fmax  10.

Potential Energy  = -3.4678925e+05

Maximum force =  6.4623531e+05 on atom 11052

Norm of force =  5.4643726e+03

 

10) Looking at the em.gro file I see one monstrous water molecule (no.
3686); e.g., it has |HW2-OW| = 3.384876 nm, while the normal distance is
about 0.1 nm. Its HW2 atom (no. 11054) is close to another water
molecule (no. 5849), e.g., 0.047 nm from the latter's HW2 atom (no.
17543):

 

...

3686SOL OW11052   4.348   3.778  -0.629

3686SOLHW111053   5.360   2.601   0.505

3686SOLHW211054   6.518   1.650   0.861  

...

5849SOL OW17541   6.525   1.698   0.900

5849SOLHW117542   6.606   1.649   0.918

5849SOLHW217543   6.481   1.648   0.832

...

 

11) During the simulation, several files called stepnnl.pdb were
produced for problematic steps, where nn=11,15,19 and l=b,c. For
example, the file step19c.pdb indeed shows a problematic water molecule
no. 3686, while step19b.pdb does not. Likewise, the earlier step11c.pdb
shows a problematic water molecule no. 3266 while step11b.pdb seems
proper. The stdout/stderr of mdrun contains warnings like the following:

 

...

t = 0.019 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 11052 can not be settled.

Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

...

 

12) Reducing the neighbor list update time, i.e., setting nstlist = 1,
does not produce any change.

 

13) Trying to use the conjugate gradient integrator instead of steepest
descent, i.e., setting integrator = cg, is even worse - the running
crashes:

 

...

Step 16, Epot=-1.258771e+35, Fnorm=  nan, Fmax=  inf (atom
14493)

Segmentation fault

Exit 139

 

 

 

So, am I doing something wrong? How can I avoid these problems?

 

Thanks,

Ehud Schreiber.

 

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[gmx-users] RE: Parallel instalation: gmx-users Digest, Vol 74, Issue 76

2010-06-17 Thread abdul wadood

Dear Carsten

I give the path for the topol.tpr file now the error is change which is

Fatal error:
3: Too many LINCS warnings (4254)
3: If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs warning threshold in 
your mdp file
3: or set the environment variable GMX_MAXCONSTRWARN to -1,
3: but normally it is better to fix the problem
3: ---
3:
3: You're About to Hurt Somebody (Jazzy Jeff)
3:
3: Halting program mdrun_mpi
3:
3: gcq#98: You're About to Hurt Somebody (Jazzy Jeff)
3:
3: [0] MPI Abort by user Aborting program !
3: [0] Aborting program!
3: p4_error: latest msg from perror: No such file or directory


Abdul Wadood, 
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Dr.Panjwani Center for Molecular Medicine and 
Drug Research, 
International Center for Chemical and 
Biological Science, 
University of Karachi, Karachi-75720, Pakistan. 
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From: ckut...@gwdg.de
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:46:40 +0200
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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org



On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:42 PM, abdul wadood wrote:Dear Carsten 

the command which i give is 

mpiexec -l -np 4 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -s topol.tpr

with this command the same error come which is 

Can not open file:
3: topol.tpr
3: ---
Maybe . (the current directory) is not in your path. Either try
mpiexec -l -np 4 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -s ./topol.tpr
or give the full path name:
mpiexec -l -np 4 /usr/local/gromacs/bin/mdrun_mpi -s  
/absolute/path/to/topol.tpr
Carsten


  
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Re: [gmx-users] large forces and monstrous water molecules in energy minimization step

2010-06-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul


Use a different box size.  I replicated your problem, but your run completes 
successfully with a box set up with editconf -d 1 instead of -d 3.3.


If you set nstxout = 1 during the EM process, you'll see the problematic water 
molecule become unstable.  It looks as if there is a small void in the solvent 
(due to the way genbox tries to stack solvent configurations) and your water 
molecule simply can't find a good orientation within that void.


-Justin

Ehud Schreiber wrote:

Dear GROMACS users,

 

When trying to simulate a pair of interacting proteins in water, I have 
encountered problems that ultimately resulted in the simulation 
crashing. I then tried to simplify the system as far as possible while 
retaining the problem; I now believe the problem (or at least a part of 
it) lies in the energy minimization step (the first molecular dynamics 
one). Specifically, the forces encountered during this step are very 
large, and some water molecules (which are supposed to be rigid) become 
giant and misshapen.


 


In more details:

1) I use GROMACS version 4.0.7, single precision, on a server with two 
Intel x86-64 processors and the redhat 5.4 linux OS.


2) I created a PDB file, called NaCl.pdb, with only two “atoms”, 
actually Na+ and Cl- ions separated by their distance in the lattice of 
salt:


 


HET NA  A   1   1

HET CL  A   1   1

HETNAM  NA SODIUM ION

HETNAM  CL CHLORIDE ION

FORMUL   1   NANA 1+

FORMUL   2   CLCL 1-

HETATM1 NANA A   1  -1.410.0   0.01.00  0.0  NA

HETATM2 CLCL A   1  +1.410.0   0.01.00  0.0  CL

 


3) I use the tip3p water model:

 


pdb2gmx -f NaCl.pdb -water tip3p

 


4) I create the box:

 


editconf -f conf.gro -bt dodecahedron -d 3.3 -o box.gro

 

5) I add water using spc216, creating the saltwater.gro file (which 
seems O.K. by inspection):


 


genbox -cp box.gro -cs spc216.gro -p topol.top -o saltwater.gro

 


6) I create the energy minimization parameter file em.mdp:

 


--em.mdp--

integrator  = steep

nsteps  = 200

nstlist = 10

rlist   = 1.0

coulombtype = pme

rcoulomb= 1.0

vdwtype = Cut-off

rvdw= 1.0

nstenergy   = 10

--

 


7) I prepare the em.tpr file for the energy minimization run:

 


grompp -f em.mdp -p topol.top -c saltwater.gro -o em.tpr

 


8) I run the energy minimization step:

 


mdrun -v -deffnm em

 

9) Looking at the em.log file I see that this step converged to machine 
precision but did not have maximal force  10:


 


…

Enabling SPC water optimization for 7561 molecules.

…

Max number of connections per atom is 2

Total number of connections is 30244

Max number of graph edges per atom is 2

Total number of graph edges is 30244

Going to use C-settle (7561 waters)

wo = 0.33, wh =0.33, wohh = 3, rc = 0.075695, ra = 0.0390588

rb = 0.0195294, rc2 = 0.15139, rone = 1, dHH = 0.15139, dOH = 0.09572

…

Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.

Converged to machine precision,

but not to the requested precision Fmax  10

…

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 36 steps,

but did not reach the requested Fmax  10.

Potential Energy  = -3.4678925e+05

Maximum force =  6.4623531e+05 on atom 11052

Norm of force =  5.4643726e+03

 

10) Looking at the em.gro file I see one monstrous water molecule (no. 
3686); e.g., it has |HW2-OW| = 3.384876 nm, while the normal distance is 
about 0.1 nm. Its HW2 atom (no. 11054) is close to another water 
molecule (no. 5849), e.g., 0.047 nm from the latter’s HW2 atom (no. 17543):


 


…

3686SOL OW11052   4.348   3.778  -0.629

3686SOLHW111053   5.360   2.601   0.505

3686SOLHW211054   6.518   1.650   0.861  


…

5849SOL OW17541   6.525   1.698   0.900

5849SOLHW117542   6.606   1.649   0.918

5849SOLHW217543   6.481   1.648   0.832

…

 

11) During the simulation, several files called stepnnl.pdb were 
produced for problematic steps, where nn=11,15,19 and l=b,c. For 
example, the file step19c.pdb indeed shows a problematic water molecule 
no. 3686, while step19b.pdb does not. Likewise, the earlier step11c.pdb 
shows a problematic water molecule no. 3266 while step11b.pdb seems 
proper. The stdout/stderr of mdrun contains warnings like the following:


 


…

t = 0.019 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 11052 can not be settled.

Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

…

 

12) Reducing the neighbor list update time, i.e., setting nstlist = 1, 
does not produce any change.


 

13) Trying to use the conjugate gradient integrator instead of steepest 
descent, i.e., setting integrator = cg, is even worse - the running crashes:


 


…

Step 16, Epot=-1.258771e+35, Fnorm=  nan, Fmax=  inf (atom 14493)

Segmentation fault

Exit 139

 

 

 


So, am I doing something wrong? How can I avoid these problems?

 


Thanks,

Ehud Schreiber.

 




[gmx-users] Enough hydration of the channel

2010-06-17 Thread chris . neale
Determining how many waters is sufficient is a tough problem, try  
successive runs of option #3, below. As for the simpler topic of  
getting more hydration:


1. If the issue is simply getting the channel hydrated enough to  
overcome some transition from dry to wet, then run a neat water box od  
216 spc for 100 ps and extract a frame every 10 ps, then run genbox  
10x successively using each of these frames. This should give you  
massive hydration.


2. If that doesn't work, then you could add a new equilibration step  
where you posres some cap waters so that the channel can not dry out.  
This may allow SC's to equilibrate to a wet environment.


3. If the issue is that the water is still moving out, then why not do  
SMD on a water into the pore and find out where the repulsion is.


-- original message --

Hi everyone,

I have a homology model of a transporter. I want to study the ligand
transport through the channel. i have done the following steps.

1. Ligand has docked to the mouth of the channel
2.  Inserted the complex in POPC bilayer, then solvated, and equilibrated
for 4ns(with position restarint on Protein  ligand)
3. Then I saw tht there are very few wtaer inside the pore, Since this
channel is an aqueous pore, I have added water to the channel using genbox.
4. Then the complete system equilibrated for pico seconds.
5,in order to select different snap shots for SMD (want to do a multiple
SMDs with different starting structures.) I have run 1ns Production run and
selected different frames.

Suddenly I found that still there is no enough water in the pore, the water
is moving away from the channel during step 4 5?

How can I solve this problem? Also how will I know how many water molecules
will be sufficient for the channel?

Thanks for your support.


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Re: [gmx-users] large forces and monstrous water molecules in energy minimization step

2010-06-17 Thread Ran Friedman
Hi,

For the dynamics to work you indeed need smaller forces (on the order of
10^3 in GMX units).
Using flexible water molecules I was able to get this for your NaCl model. 
Just add:
define  =  -DFLEXIBLE
To your input.

This should work also to fill in the voids I guess.

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Justin A. Lemkul wrote:

 Use a different box size.  I replicated your problem, but your run
 completes successfully with a box set up with editconf -d 1 instead of
 -d 3.3.

 If you set nstxout = 1 during the EM process, you'll see the
 problematic water molecule become unstable.  It looks as if there is a
 small void in the solvent (due to the way genbox tries to stack
 solvent configurations) and your water molecule simply can't find a
 good orientation within that void.

 -Justin

 Ehud Schreiber wrote:
 Dear GROMACS users,

  

 When trying to simulate a pair of interacting proteins in water, I
 have encountered problems that ultimately resulted in the simulation
 crashing. I then tried to simplify the system as far as possible
 while retaining the problem; I now believe the problem (or at least a
 part of it) lies in the energy minimization step (the first molecular
 dynamics one). Specifically, the forces encountered during this step
 are very large, and some water molecules (which are supposed to be
 rigid) become giant and misshapen.

  

 In more details:

 1) I use GROMACS version 4.0.7, single precision, on a server with
 two Intel x86-64 processors and the redhat 5.4 linux OS.

 2) I created a PDB file, called NaCl.pdb, with only two “atoms”,
 actually Na+ and Cl- ions separated by their distance in the lattice
 of salt:

  

 HET NA  A   1   1

 HET CL  A   1   1

 HETNAM  NA SODIUM ION

 HETNAM  CL CHLORIDE ION

 FORMUL   1   NANA 1+

 FORMUL   2   CLCL 1-

 HETATM1 NANA A   1  -1.410.0   0.01.00 
 0.0  NA

 HETATM2 CLCL A   1  +1.410.0   0.01.00 
 0.0  CL

  

 3) I use the tip3p water model:

  

 pdb2gmx -f NaCl.pdb -water tip3p

  

 4) I create the box:

  

 editconf -f conf.gro -bt dodecahedron -d 3.3 -o box.gro

  

 5) I add water using spc216, creating the saltwater.gro file (which
 seems O.K. by inspection):

  

 genbox -cp box.gro -cs spc216.gro -p topol.top -o saltwater.gro

  

 6) I create the energy minimization parameter file em.mdp:

  

 --em.mdp--

 integrator  = steep

 nsteps  = 200

 nstlist = 10

 rlist   = 1.0

 coulombtype = pme

 rcoulomb= 1.0

 vdwtype = Cut-off

 rvdw= 1.0

 nstenergy   = 10

 --

  

 7) I prepare the em.tpr file for the energy minimization run:

  

 grompp -f em.mdp -p topol.top -c saltwater.gro -o em.tpr

  

 8) I run the energy minimization step:

  

 mdrun -v -deffnm em

  

 9) Looking at the em.log file I see that this step converged to
 machine precision but did not have maximal force  10:

  

 …

 Enabling SPC water optimization for 7561 molecules.

 …

 Max number of connections per atom is 2

 Total number of connections is 30244

 Max number of graph edges per atom is 2

 Total number of graph edges is 30244

 Going to use C-settle (7561 waters)

 wo = 0.33, wh =0.33, wohh = 3, rc = 0.075695, ra = 0.0390588

 rb = 0.0195294, rc2 = 0.15139, rone = 1, dHH = 0.15139, dOH = 0.09572

 …

 Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.

 Converged to machine precision,

 but not to the requested precision Fmax  10

 …

 Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 36 steps,

 but did not reach the requested Fmax  10.

 Potential Energy  = -3.4678925e+05

 Maximum force =  6.4623531e+05 on atom 11052

 Norm of force =  5.4643726e+03

  

 10) Looking at the em.gro file I see one monstrous water molecule
 (no. 3686); e.g., it has |HW2-OW| = 3.384876 nm, while the normal
 distance is about 0.1 nm. Its HW2 atom (no. 11054) is close to
 another water molecule (no. 5849), e.g., 0.047 nm from the latter’s
 HW2 atom (no. 17543):

  

 …

 3686SOL OW11052   4.348   3.778  -0.629

 3686SOLHW111053   5.360   2.601   0.505

 3686SOLHW211054   6.518   1.650   0.861 
 …

 5849SOL OW17541   6.525   1.698   0.900

 5849SOLHW117542   6.606   1.649   0.918

 5849SOLHW217543   6.481   1.648   0.832

 …

  

 11) During the simulation, several files called stepnnl.pdb were
 produced for problematic steps, where nn=11,15,19 and l=b,c. For
 example, the file step19c.pdb indeed shows a problematic water
 molecule no. 3686, while step19b.pdb does not. Likewise, the earlier
 step11c.pdb shows 

[gmx-users] [pairs] and [dihedrals]

2010-06-17 Thread you zou

Hi everyone,
I have one question about topology, If I want to write topology by hand, how 
can I write pairs and dihedrals without mistakes? Is there any free softwares 
to use?
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Re: [gmx-users] [pairs] and [dihedrals]

2010-06-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



you zou wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have one question about topology, If I want to write topology by hand, 
how can I write pairs and dihedrals without mistakes? Is there any free 
softwares to use?




If you're using some automated program, then you're not doing it by hand :) 
There are several on the Gromacs' User Contribution site.  There is no 
substitute for understanding the intrinsics of your desired force field and how 
it treats these terms, as well as Chapter 5 of the Gromacs manual. 
Understanding all of this is the only way to not make mistakes (being careful of 
course to properly implement all that you have learned from your reading).


-Justin


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[gmx-users] Incomplete ring

2010-06-17 Thread you zou

Hi Users,
I have a .pdb file, in this file when I want to use pdb2gmx command there is 
this error massage:Fatal error:Incomplete ring in HIS680
this aminoacid is not complete in general, I don't know how can I complete this 
such that I don't add HIS for complete? Please give me a hint.
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Re: [gmx-users] Incomplete ring

2010-06-17 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2010-06-17 21.06, you zou wrote:

Hi Users,

I have a .pdb file, in this file when I want to use pdb2gmx command
there is this error massage:
Fatal error:
Incomplete ring in HIS680

this aminoacid is not complete in general, I don't know how can I
complete this such that I don't add HIS for complete? Please give me a hint.


add the missing atoms with emacs (or another text editor). Then minimize.

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Re: [gmx-users] constraints bond length vari by 10%

2010-06-17 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: Sebastian Waltz sebastian.wa...@physik.uni-freiburg.de
Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 18:59
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] constraints bond length vari by 10%
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi,
 
 I did read the Documentation 5 times now, but I still not
 get is what the shake_tol does tell me. I tried it with 10
 values and can't figure out what it does. My CO bonds are
 constraint. Otherwise I would have bigger variations of the
 bond length. My .mdp file looks like this
 
 constraints = none
 constraint_algorithm= shake
 shake_tol   = 0.05
 unconstrained_start = no
 
 My question is more how I can constrain the bond length
 such that they vary only by a factor of +/- 0.0001. 

The above is fine, except that your topology probably has no constraints 
defined in it, because your [constraints] is in the wrong place. Try commenting 
out the contents of your constraints directive and see if you get identical 
results. This is the last time I'm going to repeat myself, since you're 
appearing to ignore my feedback :-)

Mark

 On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:01:04 +1000
  Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Sebastian Waltz
  sebastian.wa...@physik.uni-freiburg.de
  Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:23
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] constraints bond length vari by
  10%
  To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
  gmx-users@gromacs.org
  
   Hi Mark,
   
   what I have written in the .top you can see in my first
   massage. 
  
  OK - but my suggestion was that it was put in the wrong
  *place* and I don't have enough information to say
  whether that's true.
  
   I actually don't know what to write what and in
   which .itp/.tpr file I have to add something and I also
   can't find something in the Internet. The documentation
  for
   the constraints is just bad.
  
  I understand your frustration, but documentation can't
  anticipate the answer to every question or it would be
  infinitely long. That fact doesn't make it bad. What the
  documentation can do is provide general instruction. If
  my guess is correct, then the worked example of a .top
  file in Chapter 5 will help you understand where
  [constraints] needs to go. Specifically, page 109 will
  point out that
  
  #include ffforcefield.itp
  [ moleculetype ]
  ...
  [atoms]
  ...
  
  #include water.itp
  
  [system]
  ...
  [molecules]
  ...
  
  [constraints]
  ...
  
  won't work.
  
  Section 5.5 has a worked example of how to use [settles]
  which are a kind of constraint, and work the same way.
  
  Once you've worked through this information, if you still
  have a problem with the documention, then a constructive
  suggestion for improvement would be welcome :-)
  
  Mark
  
   On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:05:20 +1000
Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


- Original Message -
From: Sebastian Waltz
sebastian.wa...@physik.uni-freiburg.de
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 22:09
Subject: [gmx-users] constraints bond length vari by
  10%
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi all,
 
 I added constraints on some bonds in my system by
adding 
 
 [ constraints ]
 ;ai   aj  typedistance
40 41  1   0.1230
47 48  1   0.1230
54 55  1   0.1230
61 62  1   0.1230
 
 to me top file (CO double bonds) and in the mdp
  file 
 
 
 constraints 
 =  none
 
 . I thought this should more or less fix my bond
lengths.
 Nether the less the bond lengths vary by 10%. Did I
make
 something or is it quite normal? What would be the
  way
to
 fix the bond length so that they vary only by ca.
  1%.

You're using the right approach, but you've probably
  not
put your [constraints] directive in the right
[moleculetype], or used the wrong .top/.itp/.tpr file
  at
some point.

Mark

   
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[gmx-users] git

2010-06-17 Thread Sai Pooja
Hi,

This is the first time I am using git. I tried to get started by using - git
clone git://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git - command but got an error -
command not found: git (I have tried different versions of this command
available with the same result). I am sure this is something extremely
trivial. Can someone let me know what am I doing wrong?

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Re: [gmx-users] git

2010-06-17 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Sai Pooja wrote:

Hi,
 
This is the first time I am using git. I tried to get started by using 
- git clone git://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git 
http://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git - command but got an error - 
command not found: git (I have tried different versions of this 
command available with the same result). I am sure this is something 
extremely trivial. Can someone let me know what am I doing wrong? 
 


Have you actually installed git?  If so, it may just not be in your $PATH.  If 
not, install it before you try to use it :)


-Justin


Regards
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Re: [gmx-users] Enough hydration of the channel

2010-06-17 Thread Aswathy
Thank you very much.

In some papers I have seen the graph for hydration of the channel. How can
we calculate that using Gromacs ? (or any other program?)

Regards,
-Aswathy


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:52 PM, chris.ne...@utoronto.ca wrote:

 Determining how many waters is sufficient is a tough problem, try
 successive runs of option #3, below. As for the simpler topic of getting
 more hydration:

 1. If the issue is simply getting the channel hydrated enough to overcome
 some transition from dry to wet, then run a neat water box od 216 spc for
 100 ps and extract a frame every 10 ps, then run genbox 10x successively
 using each of these frames. This should give you massive hydration.

 2. If that doesn't work, then you could add a new equilibration step where
 you posres some cap waters so that the channel can not dry out. This may
 allow SC's to equilibrate to a wet environment.

 3. If the issue is that the water is still moving out, then why not do SMD
 on a water into the pore and find out where the repulsion is.

 -- original message --

 Hi everyone,

 I have a homology model of a transporter. I want to study the ligand
 transport through the channel. i have done the following steps.

 1. Ligand has docked to the mouth of the channel
 2.  Inserted the complex in POPC bilayer, then solvated, and equilibrated
 for 4ns(with position restarint on Protein  ligand)
 3. Then I saw tht there are very few wtaer inside the pore, Since this
 channel is an aqueous pore, I have added water to the channel using genbox.
 4. Then the complete system equilibrated for pico seconds.
 5,in order to select different snap shots for SMD (want to do a multiple
 SMDs with different starting structures.) I have run 1ns Production run and
 selected different frames.

 Suddenly I found that still there is no enough water in the pore, the water
 is moving away from the channel during step 4 5?

 How can I solve this problem? Also how will I know how many water molecules
 will be sufficient for the channel?

 Thanks for your support.


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Re: [gmx-users] Enough hydration of the channel

2010-06-17 Thread Aswathy
Thanks a lot.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Aswathy wrote:

 Thank you very much.

 In some papers I have seen the graph for hydration of the channel. How can
 we calculate that using Gromacs ? (or any other program?)


 Have a look at some of Oliver Beckstein's programs:

 http://sbcb.bioch.ox.ac.uk/oliver/software/

 There are several that might be useful to you.

 -Justin


 Regards,
 -Aswathy



 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:52 PM, chris.ne...@utoronto.ca mailto:
 chris.ne...@utoronto.ca wrote:

Determining how many waters is sufficient is a tough problem, try
successive runs of option #3, below. As for the simpler topic of
getting more hydration:

1. If the issue is simply getting the channel hydrated enough to
overcome some transition from dry to wet, then run a neat water box
od 216 spc for 100 ps and extract a frame every 10 ps, then run
genbox 10x successively using each of these frames. This should give
you massive hydration.

2. If that doesn't work, then you could add a new equilibration step
where you posres some cap waters so that the channel can not dry
out. This may allow SC's to equilibrate to a wet environment.

3. If the issue is that the water is still moving out, then why not
do SMD on a water into the pore and find out where the repulsion is.

-- original message --

Hi everyone,

I have a homology model of a transporter. I want to study the ligand
transport through the channel. i have done the following steps.

1. Ligand has docked to the mouth of the channel
2.  Inserted the complex in POPC bilayer, then solvated, and
equilibrated
for 4ns(with position restarint on Protein  ligand)
3. Then I saw tht there are very few wtaer inside the pore, Since this
channel is an aqueous pore, I have added water to the channel using
genbox.
4. Then the complete system equilibrated for pico seconds.
5,in order to select different snap shots for SMD (want to do a
 multiple
SMDs with different starting structures.) I have run 1ns Production
run and
selected different frames.

Suddenly I found that still there is no enough water in the pore,
the water
is moving away from the channel during step 4 5?

How can I solve this problem? Also how will I know how many water
molecules
will be sufficient for the channel?

Thanks for your support.


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Re: [gmx-users] git

2010-06-17 Thread Sai Pooja
Thanks Justin. I installed git first and then used git clone
g...@git.gromacs.org:gromacs.git and this is what I get

Initialized empty Git repository in /fs/home/sm868/gromacs/.git/
The authenticity of host 'git.gromacs.org (130.237.163.208)' can't be
established.
RSA key fingerprint is ef:9e:30:0e:8c:3c:70:27:c9:d5:10:26:3e:4d:a7:08.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'git.gromacs.org,130.237.163.208' (RSA) to the
list of known hosts.
g...@git.gromacs.org's password:

1) Empty repository - what does that mean?
2) What password do I need to enter here?

Pooja


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Sai Pooja wrote:

 Hi,
  This is the first time I am using git. I tried to get started by using -
 git clone git://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git 
 http://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git - command but got an error - command
 not found: git (I have tried different versions of this command available
 with the same result). I am sure this is something extremely trivial. Can
 someone let me know what am I doing wrong?


 Have you actually installed git?  If so, it may just not be in your $PATH.
  If not, install it before you try to use it :)

 -Justin


  Regards
 Pooja


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Re: [gmx-users] git

2010-06-17 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: Sai Pooja saipo...@gmail.com
Date: Friday, June 18, 2010 15:28
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] git
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Thanks Justin. I installed git first and then used git clone 
 g...@git.gromacs.org:gromacs.git and this is what I get
 Initialized empty Git repository in /fs/home/sm868/gromacs/.git/ The 
 authenticity of host 'git.gromacs.org (130.237.163.208)' can't be 
 established.  RSA key fingerprint is 
 ef:9e:30:0e:8c:3c:70:27:c9:d5:10:26:3e:4d:a7:08. Are you sure you want to 
 continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 
 'git.gromacs.org,130.237.163.208' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.  
 g...@git.gromacs.org's password:  
 1) Empty repository - what does that mean?

Empty is what you call something before you put something in it :-)

 2) What password do I need to enter here?

Your approach won't work unless you have a registered .ssh key for 
g...@git.gromacs.org, i.e. you have permission to write to the repository.

The first three different places I looked on the wiki for how to get the git 
repository recommended a different approach from yours. See 
http://www.gromacs.org/Developer_Zone/Git.

There's a lot of useful git help on the wiki and the web - please use it.

Mark

 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
  
  
  Sai Pooja wrote:
   Hi,
   This is the first time I am using git. I tried to get started by using - 
 git clone git://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git 
 http://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git - command but got an error - command 
 not found: git (I have tried different versions of this command available 
 with the same result). I am sure this is something extremely trivial. Can 
 someone let me know what am I doing wrong?  

  Have you actually installed git?  If so, it may just not be in your $PATH.  
 If not, install it before you try to use it :)
  
  -Justin
  
   Regards
  Pooja
   
  
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RE: [gmx-users] git

2010-06-17 Thread Dallas B. Warren
Shouldn't you just do it anonymously?

 

git clone git://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git

 

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
Drug Delivery, Disposition and Dynamics
Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
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When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble
a nail. 

 

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[mailto:gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf Of Sai Pooja
Sent: Friday, 18 June 2010 3:28 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] git

 

Thanks Justin. I installed git first and then used git clone
g...@git.gromacs.org:gromacs.git and this is what I get

 

Initialized empty Git repository in /fs/home/sm868/gromacs/.git/

The authenticity of host 'git.gromacs.org (130.237.163.208)' can't be
established.

RSA key fingerprint is ef:9e:30:0e:8c:3c:70:27:c9:d5:10:26:3e:4d:a7:08.

Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes

Warning: Permanently added 'git.gromacs.org,130.237.163.208' (RSA) to
the list of known hosts.

g...@git.gromacs.org's password: 

 

1) Empty repository - what does that mean?

2) What password do I need to enter here?

 

Pooja

 

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:



Sai Pooja wrote:

Hi,
 This is the first time I am using git. I tried to get started by using
- git clone git://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git
http://git.gromacs.org/gromacs.git - command but got an error -
command not found: git (I have tried different versions of this
command available with the same result). I am sure this is something
extremely trivial. Can someone let me know what am I doing wrong?  


Have you actually installed git?  If so, it may just not be in your
$PATH.  If not, install it before you try to use it :)

-Justin

 

Regards
Pooja
 

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[gmx-users] error in linking mopac and gromacs

2010-06-17 Thread subarna thakur
According to the suggestion I have installed the f2c package in my machine.I am 
unable to find the g2c package. I have included the f2c library by - export 
LIBS=-lmopac -lf2c. But when I running  ./configure --with-qmmm-mopac 
--disable-float , an error is comming C compiler cannot create executable. The 
config.log file shows the following section- 
onfigure:3413: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:3440: cc -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_MOPAC -L/usr/local/lib conftest.c 
-lmopac -lf2c 5
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.3/../../../../lib/libf2c.so: undefined 
reference to `MAIN__'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:3443: $? = 1
configure:3481: result:
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h. */ 
Please suggest a way out.Subarna Thakur

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