Re: [gmx-users] installation problem of gromacs binary

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: priyabrata panigrahi priyabra...@gmail.com
Date: Friday, August 20, 2010 16:56
Subject: [gmx-users] installation problem of gromacs binary
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

 I was trying to install gromacs-3.3.3-1.x86_64.rpm. I got the following error
 
 error: Failed dependencies:
 fftw3 = 3.0.1 is needed by gromacs-3.3.3-1.x86_64
 libfftw3f.so.3()(64bit) is needed by gromacs-3.3.3-1.x86_64
  
 I installed fftw-3.2.2.tar.gz.

Mixing RPM and source distributions doesn't really work, because the RPM 
database is unaware of anything you've done outside RPM.

Either install a *single-precision* FFTW3 RPM, or GROMACS also from source.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] installation problem of gromacs binary

2010-08-20 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2010-08-20 09.14, Mark Abraham wrote:



- Original Message -
From: priyabrata panigrahi priyabra...@gmail.com
Date: Friday, August 20, 2010 16:56
Subject: [gmx-users] installation problem of gromacs binary
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

  I was trying to install gromacs-3.3.3-1.x86_64.rpm. I got the
following error
 
  error: Failed dependencies:
  fftw3 = 3.0.1 is needed by gromacs-3.3.3-1.x86_64
  libfftw3f.so.3()(64bit) is needed by gromacs-3.3.3-1.x86_64
 
  I installed fftw-3.2.2.tar.gz.

Mixing RPM and source distributions doesn't really work, because the RPM
database is unaware of anything you've done outside RPM.

Either install a *single-precision* FFTW3 RPM, or GROMACS also from source.

Mark


And, obviously, you might want to consider a newer gromacs version.
For quite a few distributions you can use yum or apt-get gromacs.

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[gmx-users] g_sorient

2010-08-20 Thread babu gokul
Dear all 
when i try to run g_sorient with 

g_sorient -f prod_full.xtc -s prod.tpr -o ANALYSIS/sorie
nt/sori.xvg -no ANALYSIS/sorient/snor.xvg -ro ANALYSIS/sorient/sord.xvg

I am getting a segmentation fault what would be the problem could anyone help 
in 
in this regard

E R Azhagiya singam

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[gmx-users] sampled distances

2010-08-20 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Chris

Again sorry for the delay. I posted a couple of times but the attachment was 
too big so I had to compress the file. Here is the histogram for the sampled 
distances. As you can see they are
well behaved below 2nm, whereas above they are not. The histogram for
the previous distance vs time plot is the brown coloured curve centred
at 2.35 nm.

Cheers

Gavin



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Re: [gmx-users] Trajectory protonation and inter proton distance calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Justin A. Lemkul


It seems that my messages still are not getting through.  I'll try again to post 
this today, apologies if you're getting multiple...


Johannes Beck wrote:

Dear Justin, dear all,

thank you for your reply.

Running protonate without defining an index file via -n is indeed 
possible, but when the groups are to be chosen after calling protonate, 
only a group named Protein that contains 82 residues was offered, but no 
group containing 124 residues, as I wished to get for the protonated 
molecule:





--
  protonate -s 65300.gro -f md.xtc -o md_protonated.xtc


That is exactly what you want - to protonate your protein, which currently has
82 atoms.  I have no idea about what the help information is talking about
(probably a more advanced application), but as for doing a simple protonation
like this one, your command is correct.

snip



Is the trajectory I now received (md_protonated.xtc) properly 
protonated? How could I check this? For application of g_dist on this 


Use gmxcheck.  It will report the number of atoms in the trajectory.

protonated trajectory, a run input file (.tpr) that corresponds to the 
protonated state seems to be required. If the run input file from the 
unprotonated MD trajectory is given as input in g_dist, g_dist fails and 
suggests to use tpbconv in order to convert the original run input file 
into a run input file for the protonated state. I wonder how I could use 
tpbconv to do that?




tpbconv is only useful for making a subset of the original .tpr file, not for
adding atoms to it.  You can protonate the configuration in the .tpr file using
protonate, but the output can only be a coordinate file or trajectory, not a
.tpr file.  You will likely have to produce a new topology for your
now-protonated system that corresponds to the trajectory.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: dihedraltypes funct 4 and 9 in gmx 4.5 amber

2010-08-20 Thread Alan
Hi there,

Now I have some results that I hope to clear this matter about dihe funct 4
and 9 (specially the latter).

Please see:

http://code.google.com/p/acpype/wiki/TestingAcpypeAmb2gmx

From my understanding (and results), where dihe funct 4 or 9, replacing both
with 1 changes nothing in tot pot energy for amber force fields.

I don't know about charmm here, but I thought amber dihe parameters were
sort multiple terms and as far as I remember, the need to convert proper
dihe to RBs was necessary for early versions of gromacs 3.x, am I right?

Best,

Alan

On 18 August 2010 22:01, Alan alanwil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Berk and Mark,


 Erik was too lazy to document this, I now added it to the manual.


 Is this manual available even via git? When funct 4 and 9 appeared? in gmx
 4.5?

 Type 4 is identical to type 1, it is only there to distinguish improper
 from proper dihedrals.


 So for amber impr. dih. only, if I put 1 instead of 4 I for my GAFF
 generated ligand it would do the same thing, right? I ask that for the grace
 of compatibility with gmx 4.0.x.

 Type 9 is identical to type 1, except that multiple entries in
 dihedraltypes will lead to
 multiple functions on one dihedral.


 This one is more difficult to get. I know about multiple entries in CNS,
 Charmm and Amber. I was even trying to convert amber99bsc0 new dih
 parameters to gromacs and I was using funct 1. However I didn't have Amber
 to validate, and now I have Amber11, I don't have time for the moment.

 Sounds like funct 9 is to not only pave the way for Charmm, but may help to
 address properly the bsc0 parameters, right?

 But I need to understand this better. Converting amber's proper dih. param.
 to gromacs 4.0.x was done by making these dih. to be RB. However
 amb2gmx.pl converts everything to proper (using funct 1) -- acpype is
 smarter here. So in gmx 4.0.x proper dih. funct 1 was never able to
 interpret multiple entries on one dihedral?

 Now on Mark:


 Type 9 was added to facilitate CHARMM's multiple proper dihedrals, in git
 commit a7c597c778351f by Erik, whose message was

Added support for dihedraltype 9, which allows multiple terms for
 proper dihedrals.
By listing a dihedral with type 9, grompp will now scan the force field
 to see if there are
multiple terms on _adjacent_ lines listed in the dihedraltypes section,
 and in that case add them all.

 A code snippet in src/kernel/toppush.c reads

if(ft == 9)
{
/* Previously, we have always overwritten parameters if
 e.g. a torsion
 with the same atomtypes occurs on multiple lines. However,
 CHARMM and
 some other force fields specify multiple dihedrals over
 some bonds,
 including cosines with multiplicity 6 and somethimes even
 higher.
 Thus, they cannot be represented with Ryckaert-Bellemans
 terms.
 To add support for these force fields, Dihedral type 9 is
 identical to
 normal proper dihedrals, but repeated entries are allowed.
 */
bAllowRepeat = TRUE;
ft = 1;
}


 So amb2gmx.pl never worked properly here? For example, I have this for DNA
 with amber99bsc0:

 ; treated as usual propers in GROMACS since Phase angle diff from 0 or 180
 degrees
 ; i   j   k   l func  phase kd  pn
   2   3   6  23   1   190.98   4.92892   1 ;O5'-   C5'-   C4'-   C3'
   2   3   6  23   1   295.63   0.38535   2 ;O5'-   C5'-   C4'-   C3'
   2   3   6  23   1   348.10   4.02848   3 ;O5'-   C5'-   C4'-   C3'
  28  29  32  33   131.80   0.77480   1 ;O3'- P-   O5'-   C5'
  28  29  32  33   1   351.96   5.25733   2 ;O3'- P-   O5'-   C5'
  28  29  32  33   1   357.25   1.48473   3 ;O3'- P-   O5'-   C5'

 So, this would only work if funct was 9 and not 1 as above? The way it is,
 the last line of a sequence dih. is overwriting the 2 previous one, ignoring
 them completely?


 From src/gmxlib/{ifunc,bondfree}.c and src/kernel/{topdirs,toppush}.c it
 can be seen that dihedraltypes 4 and 1 call the same evaluation function.
 Perhaps Erik can confirm this.

 src/gmxlib/ifunc.c did suggest to me that something is not quite right...

  def_bonded  (PDIHS,Proper Dih., 4, 3, 3,  eNR_PROPER, pdihs
   ),
  def_bonded  (RBDIHS,   Ryckaert-Bell.,  4, 6, 6,  eNR_RB, rbdihs
),
  def_bonded  (FOURDIHS, Fourier Dih.,4, 4, 4,  eNR_FOURDIH, rbdihs
   ),
  def_bonded  (IDIHS,Improper Dih.,   4, 2, 2,  eNR_IMPROPER,idihs
),
  def_bonded  (PIDIHS,   Improper Dih.,   4, 3, 3,  eNR_PROPER, pdihs
   ),

 If PIDIHS is an improper dihedral with the functional form of a proper
 dihedral, should it not use eNR_IMPROPER?


 I definitely need to run my validations myself, but any words here would be
 helpful.

 Many thanks you all.

 Cheers,

 Alan

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RE: [gmx-users] Re: dihedraltypes funct 4 and 9 in gmx 4.5 amber

2010-08-20 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

That depends.
If you have explicit parameters in the dihedral section then 1 and 9 are 
equivalent.
If grompp has to look up parameters in the dihderaltypes section there will be 
difference
when multiple parameter lines are present the same atom types for a dihedral 
type 9.

Berk

From: alanwil...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:41:33 +0100
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
CC: gporte...@mmb.pcb.ub.es
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: dihedraltypes funct 4 and 9 in gmx 4.5 amber

Hi there,
Now I have some results that I hope to clear this matter about dihe funct 4 and 
9 (specially the latter).
Please see:
http://code.google.com/p/acpype/wiki/TestingAcpypeAmb2gmx


From my understanding (and results), where dihe funct 4 or 9, replacing both 
with 1 changes nothing in tot pot energy for amber force fields.

I don't know about charmm here, but I thought amber dihe parameters were sort 
multiple terms and as far as I remember, the need to convert proper dihe to RBs 
was necessary for early versions of gromacs 3.x, am I right?


Best,
Alan
On 18 August 2010 22:01, Alan alanwil...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Berk and Mark,  


Erik was too lazy to document this, I now added it to the manual.

Is this manual available even via git? When funct 4 and 9 appeared? in gmx 4.5?




Type 4 is identical to type 1, it is only there to distinguish improper from 
proper dihedrals.


So for amber impr. dih. only, if I put 1 instead of 4 I for my GAFF generated 
ligand it would do the same thing, right? I ask that for the grace of 
compatibility with gmx 4.0.x.



Type 9 is identical to type 1, except that multiple entries in dihedraltypes 
will lead to

multiple functions on one dihedral.

This one is more difficult to get. I know about multiple entries in CNS, Charmm 
and Amber. I was even trying to convert amber99bsc0 new dih parameters to 
gromacs and I was using funct 1. However I didn't have Amber to validate, and 
now I have Amber11, I don't have time for the moment.



Sounds like funct 9 is to not only pave the way for Charmm, but may help to 
address properly the bsc0 parameters, right?
But I need to understand this better. Converting amber's proper dih. param. to 
gromacs 4.0.x was done by making these dih. to be RB. However amb2gmx.pl 
converts everything to proper (using funct 1) -- acpype is smarter here. So in 
gmx 4.0.x proper dih. funct 1 was never able to interpret multiple entries on 
one dihedral?


 Now on Mark: Type 9 was added to facilitate CHARMM's multiple proper 
dihedrals, in git commit a7c597c778351f by Erik, whose message was






Added support for dihedraltype 9, which allows multiple terms for proper 
dihedrals.

By listing a dihedral with type 9, grompp will now scan the force field to 
see if there are

multiple terms on _adjacent_ lines listed in the dihedraltypes section, and 
in that case add them all.



A code snippet in src/kernel/toppush.c reads



if(ft == 9)

{

/* Previously, we have always overwritten parameters if e.g. a 
torsion

 with the same atomtypes occurs on multiple lines. However, 
CHARMM and

 some other force fields specify multiple dihedrals over some 
bonds,

 including cosines with multiplicity 6 and somethimes even 
higher.

 Thus, they cannot be represented with Ryckaert-Bellemans terms.

 To add support for these force fields, Dihedral type 9 is 
identical to

 normal proper dihedrals, but repeated entries are allowed.

 */

bAllowRepeat = TRUE;

ft = 1;

}

So amb2gmx.pl never worked properly here? For example, I have this for DNA with 
amber99bsc0:



; treated as usual propers in GROMACS since Phase angle diff from 0 or 180 
degrees; i   j   k   l func  phase kd  pn  2   3   6  23   1   190.98   
4.92892   1 ;O5'-   C5'-   C4'-   C3'


  2   3   6  23   1   295.63   0.38535   2 ;O5'-   C5'-   C4'-   C3'  2   3 
  6  23   1   348.10   4.02848   3 ;O5'-   C5'-   C4'-   C3' 28  29  32  33 
  131.80   0.77480   1 ;O3'- P-   O5'-   C5'


 28  29  32  33   1   351.96   5.25733   2 ;O3'- P-   O5'-   C5' 28  29 
 32  33   1   357.25   1.48473   3 ;O3'- P-   O5'-   C5'



So, this would only work if funct was 9 and not 1 as above? The way it is, the 
last line of a sequence dih. is overwriting the 2 previous one, ignoring them 
completely? 


From src/gmxlib/{ifunc,bondfree}.c and src/kernel/{topdirs,toppush}.c it can 
be seen that dihedraltypes 4 and 1 call the same evaluation function. Perhaps 
Erik can confirm this.



src/gmxlib/ifunc.c did suggest to me that something is not quite right...



  def_bonded  (PDIHS,Proper Dih., 4, 3, 3,  eNR_PROPER, pdihs   
  ),

  def_bonded  (RBDIHS,   Ryckaert-Bell.,  4, 6, 6,  eNR_RB, rbdihs  
  ),

  def_bonded  (FOURDIHS, Fourier Dih.,4, 4, 4,  eNR_FOURDIH, rbdihs 
  

[gmx-users] RE: Targeted MD

2010-08-20 Thread Nimesh Jain
Hello,

I realize that this topic has been discussed before, but I just need to
ascertain a few things: I have a system of about 1400 atoms with implicit
solvent and I want to do a targeted MD. While doing the pre-processing, if I
just specify grompp -r in.gro -rb out.gro, is this sufficient or are there
any other things that I need to consider. Also, I have tabulated potentials.


If any one knows how to do this, or if you need more info on my system,
please let me know.

Thanks,
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[gmx-users] force constants for umbrellla histograms

2010-08-20 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Hi all

Is is O.K to use different force constants for different sampling
windows for the generation of the potential of mean force curves?

Many Thanks

Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] RE: Targeted MD

2010-08-20 Thread Ran Friedman
Hi,

-r and -rb are for FEP.

If you want to bias your simulation's sampling, you can use the pull
code, essential dynamics sampling or flooding, all of which are
described in the manual and literature.

Ran

Nimesh Jain wrote:
 Hello,

 I realize that this topic has been discussed before, but I just need
 to ascertain a few things: I have a system of about 1400 atoms with
 implicit solvent and I want to do a targeted MD. While doing the
 pre-processing, if I just specify grompp -r in.gro -rb out.gro, is
 this sufficient or are there any other things that I need to consider.
 Also, I have tabulated potentials.

 If any one knows how to do this, or if you need more info on my
 system, please let me know.

 Thanks,
 Nimesh

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[gmx-users] How to center molecules in the box with trjconj ?

2010-08-20 Thread ABEL Stephane 175950
Hi all,
 
I have simulated a system containing 55 DPC molecules, a peptide some ions and 
water in a cubic box. Initially all molecules were placed randomly in the box. 
As expected during the simulation all the DPC molecules aggregate to form a 
stable micelle with the peptide located at the micelle interface. 
 
Now I would like to plot some MD configs in a PDB format some configs where the 
micelle and the peptide are placed in the center of the box. To take into 
account the PBC and to obtain the PDB, for the last frame at 150 ns as I used 
trjconv with the following commands: 
 
1-  trjconv_mpi -f traj_KTM17_DPC_all.xtc -s hMRP1_K-TM17_DPC.tpr -pbc nojump 
-b 15 -e 15 -o traj_KTM17_DPC_0ns_noJump.pdb
 
With non-SOL (DPC and peptide) as a group for output and where 
traj_KTM17_DPC_all.xtc is the trajectory with *no* PBC transformation 
 
2-  trjconv_mpi -f traj_KTM17_DPC_0ns_noJump.pdb -s hMRP1_K-TM17_dpc.gro 
-center -o traj_KTM17_DPC_0ns_noJump_center.pdb 
 
With DPC as a group for centering and System (DPC and peptide) as a group for 
output. the *.gro file contains only the DPC and peptide.
 
Unfortunately, these commands do not work since the micelle (and the peptide) 
are not in the box center. I have tried many others commands with -pbc as mol, 
res with no success. 
 
I used GMX version 4.0.7 
 
Any advices would be helpful.
 
Stefane 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] force constants for umbrellla histograms

2010-08-20 Thread XAvier Periole


On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Gavin Melaugh wrote:


Hi all

Is is O.K to use different force constants for different sampling
windows for the generation of the potential of mean force curves?

Yes.


Many Thanks

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[gmx-users] Re: dihedraltypes funct 4 and 9 in gmx 4.5 amber

2010-08-20 Thread Alan
Ah! now I get it. Thanks Berk.

On 20 August 2010 16:27, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

 Hi,

 That depends.
 If you have explicit parameters in the dihedral section then 1 and 9 are
 equivalent.
 If grompp has to look up parameters in the dihderaltypes section there will
 be difference
 when multiple parameter lines are present the same atom types for a
 dihedral type 9.

 Berk


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[gmx-users] intersting problem

2010-08-20 Thread babu gokul
dear all
I want to calculate the how many water molecule are their with in 3.5 A of a 
particular atom. could anyone help me in this regard 

E R Azhagiya singam

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Re: [gmx-users] force constants for umbrellla histograms

2010-08-20 Thread Gavin Melaugh
Thanks Xavier

Then does it matter how many times you vary it, and how large ? In my
sampling I have very good histograms up to 2 nm (force constant = 1000
kj/mol), above 2nm they are not. I feel I may have to use a force
constant of 500 for the next 3 or 4 windows, and even less again (ca~ 50
kj/mol) beyond that.

Cheers

Gavin
 

XAvier Periole wrote:

 On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Gavin Melaugh wrote:

 Hi all

 Is is O.K to use different force constants for different sampling
 windows for the generation of the potential of mean force curves?
 Yes.

 Many Thanks

 Gavin
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Re: [gmx-users] How to center molecules in the box with trjconj ?

2010-08-20 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ABEL Stephane 175950 wrote:

Hi all,

I have simulated a system containing 55 DPC molecules, a peptide some ions
and water in a cubic box. Initially all molecules were placed randomly in the
box. As expected during the simulation all the DPC molecules aggregate to
form a stable micelle with the peptide located at the micelle interface.

Now I would like to plot some MD configs in a PDB format some configs where
the micelle and the peptide are placed in the center of the box. To take into
account the PBC and to obtain the PDB, for the last frame at 150 ns as I used
trjconv with the following commands:

1-  trjconv_mpi -f traj_KTM17_DPC_all.xtc -s hMRP1_K-TM17_DPC.tpr -pbc nojump
-b 15 -e 15 -o traj_KTM17_DPC_0ns_noJump.pdb

With non-SOL (DPC and peptide) as a group for output and where
traj_KTM17_DPC_all.xtc is the trajectory with *no* PBC transformation

2-  trjconv_mpi -f traj_KTM17_DPC_0ns_noJump.pdb -s hMRP1_K-TM17_dpc.gro
-center -o traj_KTM17_DPC_0ns_noJump_center.pdb

With DPC as a group for centering and System (DPC and peptide) as a group
for output. the *.gro file contains only the DPC and peptide.

Unfortunately, these commands do not work since the micelle (and the peptide)
are not in the box center. I have tried many others commands with -pbc as
mol, res with no success.



I have never had much success using multi-molecule groups for centering or other 
correction using trjconv.  Centering on the peptide, i.e. trjconv -pbc mol -ur 
compact -center, should do the trick.  I have never found -pbc nojump to work 
very well, for a reason that is still unknown to me.


-Justin


I used GMX version 4.0.7

Any advices would be helpful.

Stefane




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Re: [gmx-users] intersting problem

2010-08-20 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



babu gokul wrote:

dear all
I want to calculate the how many water molecule are their with in 3.5 A 
of a particular atom. could anyone help me in this regard


g_dist -dist

-Justin


E R Azhagiya singam




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Re: [gmx-users] force constants for umbrellla histograms

2010-08-20 Thread XAvier Periole


The most important is that you have to put in trajectories that
are equilibrated! You can mix as much force constant values
you like but always equilibrated ...

Then the lower the force constant the longer the simulation needs
to be to reach equilibrium: larger conformational space accessible.
I can also imagine that a too strong force constant might deform
your molecules in a manner you should not.



Then does it matter how many times you vary it, and how large ?
In my
sampling I have very good histograms up to 2 nm (force constant = 1000
kj/mol), above 2nm they are not. I feel I may have to use a force
constant of 500 for the next 3 or 4 windows, and even less again  
(ca~ 50

kj/mol) beyond that.

Cheers

Gavin


XAvier Periole wrote:


On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Gavin Melaugh wrote:


Hi all

Is is O.K to use different force constants for different sampling
windows for the generation of the potential of mean force curves?

Yes.


Many Thanks

Gavin
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