Re: [gmx-users] g_rmsf -res = average over time for each residue?

2010-10-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Lin,

How many residues do you have and how many points do you get? (Only answer
for yourself). We're no substitute for your brain, you know...

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Oct 25, 2010 7:47 AM, Chih-Ying Lin chihying2...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi
g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -s abc.tpr -res -o abcrmsf.xvg

   *-[no]res*
 bool
 no
 Calculate averages for each residue



 abcrmsf.xvg = average over time for each residue?


Thank you
Lin




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Re: [gmx-users] Reg; MD of DCE part II

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: vinothkumar mohanakrishnan kmvin...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, October 25, 2010 15:57
Subject: [gmx-users] Reg; MD of DCE part II
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi gromacians I performed md simulation of 108 dichloroethane molecules 
 in isothermal-isobaric ensemble with the box size 3.002*2.17*2.17. after the 
 simulation my box size has changed considerably from the initial size to 
 2.87882 2.08095 2.08095.why this happens?

Probably because it was not equilibrated (yet).

  my second question is can i have a control over the box dimensions 
changes during md (i.e when the box dimensions changes during md i want to 
change it only on one axis(say x axis) and want to keep the length of the other 
two axis (say y and z) same as that of my initial box size? any help is highly 
apprecited.

Probably you can do what you want. See manual section 3.4.9 and 7.3.15. It's 
often a good place to search first ;-)

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Re: [gmx-users] Reg; MD of DCE part II

2010-10-25 Thread vinothkumar mohanakrishnan
Hi mark

The system was well equiulibrated and the average temperature is 299.18
K and the pressure is 1.25 bar. I checked in the manual (gromacs version
4.0)l and there is no section like 3.4.9 and i as well checked 7.3.15. i too
know that when there is no pressure coupling the box size wont change. what
one will do if one wants to do in the NPT ensemble and wants to control the
box dimensions?

Regards
Vinoth

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:



 - Original Message -
 From: vinothkumar mohanakrishnan kmvin...@gmail.com
 Date: Monday, October 25, 2010 15:57
 Subject: [gmx-users] Reg; MD of DCE part II
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

  Hi gromacians
 
   I performed md simulation of 108 dichloroethane molecules in
 isothermal-isobaric ensemble with the box size 3.002*2.17*2.17. after the
 simulation my box size has changed considerably from the initial size to
 2.87882 2.08095 2.08095.why this happens?

 Probably because it was not equilibrated (yet).

 
   my second question is can i have a control over the box dimensions
 changes during md (i.e when the box dimensions changes during md i want to
 change it only on one axis(say x axis) and want to keep the length of the
 other two axis (say y and z) same as that of my initial box size? any help
 is highly apprecited.

 Probably you can do what you want. See manual section 3.4.9 and 7.3.15.
 It's often a good place to search first ;-)

 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Reg; MD of DCE part II

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: vinothkumar mohanakrishnan kmvin...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, October 25, 2010 18:10
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Reg; MD of DCE part II
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi mark The system was well equiulibrated and the average temperature 
 is 299.18 K and the pressure is 1.25 bar.

... and this means the system wants to contract (if this is an average pressure 
you've measured over a meaningful length of time).

 I checked in the manual (gromacs version 4.0)l and there is no section like 
 3.4.9 and i as well checked 7.3.15.

OK, well look up in those chapters what GROMACS will do with pressure coupling 
(and plan to upgrade GROMACS).

 i too know that when there is no pressure coupling the box size wont change. 
 what one will do if one wants to do in the NPT ensemble and wants to control 
 the box dimensions?

Given dimensions for a system at a given temperature are only compatible with a 
certain equilibrium pressure. PV=nRT and all that. You have to equilibrate to 
your reference pressure before you can expect the volume to stay within a small 
fluctuation of an average, and cannot choose P, V and T arbitrarily.

Mark

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[gmx-users] Reg:Using Trjconv to combine two gro r pdb files

2010-10-25 Thread vinothkumar mohanakrishnan
Hi gromacians

I want to know how in the methanol-water tutorial (
http://manual.gromacs.org/current/online/mixed.html) they generated
mixed.pdb or conf.gro (usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/tutor/mixed) using
trjconv? any help is highly appreciated.

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[gmx-users] solvation box type for nanotubes

2010-10-25 Thread raj
Hello,

Can we use rhombic dodecahedron solvation box for the PMF calculation on the
small molecule diffusion into carbon nanotube. so that we can reduce 29%
calculation time. If so then what could be the box size?

Thank you.

Regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] Reg:Using Trjconv to combine two gro r pdb files

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: vinothkumar mohanakrishnan kmvin...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, October 25, 2010 19:31
Subject: [gmx-users] Reg:Using Trjconv to combine two gro r pdb files
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi gromacians I want to know how in the methanol-water tutorial 
 (http://manual.gromacs.org/current/online/mixed.html) they generated 
 mixed.pdb or conf.gro (usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/tutor/mixed)

Maybe by concatenating two suitable single-solvent boxes. Or, you could start 
with a box of methol, increase its dimensions with a text editor, and then 
genbox to insert water solvent.

Mark

 using trjconv? any help is highly appreciated.  Regards  Vinoth 
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[gmx-users] Free energy calculations - desolvation energy of Na+

2010-10-25 Thread eva . pluharova
 Hello all,

 I am trying calculate desolvation free energy of Na+ in water using option
 couple-moltype, not by creating B-topology in the .top file.

 At first, I switched off coulombic interaction using:

 couple-moltype   = Na+
 couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
 couple-lambda1   = vdw

 Then I tried to switch off LJ interaction using couple-lambda0 = vdw and
 couple-lambda1 = none, but obtained this warning:

 WARNING 1 [file equil_NVT000.mdp, line 95]:
   For proper sampling of the (nearly) decoupled state, stochastic dynamics
 should be used

 This is strange, because my .mdp file has only 94 lines.

 Thanks in advance for any help or suggestion.

 Best,

 Eva

 For convenience, I am pasting weak coupling algorithm section and free
 energy section from my .mdp file. The simulation was performed at constant
 volume using strong temperature coupling, since it was an equilibration
 run.

 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
 Tcoupl   = v-rescale
 tc-grps  = system
 tau_t= 0.1
 ref_t= 300
 nsttcouple   = 1

 ; Free energy control stuff
 free_energy  = yes
 init_lambda  = 0.0
 delta_lambda = 0
 foreign_lambda   = 0.1
 sc-alpha = 0.7
 sc-power = 1
 sc-sigma = 0.3
 nstdhdl  = 10
 separate-dhdl-file   = yes
 dhdl-derivatives = yes
 dh_hist_size = 0
 dh_hist_spacing  = 0.1
 couple-moltype   = Na+
 couple-lambda0   = vdw
 couple-lambda1   = none
 couple-intramol  = no

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[gmx-users] problem with g_density

2010-10-25 Thread Ozge Engin
Hi all,

I have some difficulties with understanding the output of g_density command.
I have a system composed of two Lennard Jones particles, A and B in a
20.712x20.712x20.712 simulation box. The parameters between the two
particles are given such that they do not mix, but they undergo a phase
separation. I want to investigate the density profile of the system, and  I
used the following command line to do that:

g_density -f traj.xtc -n index.ndx -dens number -sl 100

The density profile for the two types of particles looks OK except the
boundaries of the simulation box. I mean I would not expect to get a number
other than 0 at the lower and upper boundaries. I have also searched the
mailing list. There was an e-mail similar to that one, but it was not
replied.

I have attached the density profile in the attachment.

Why is it the case?

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Re: [gmx-users] Free energy calculations - desolvation energy of Na+

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



eva.pluhar...@marge.uochb.cas.cz wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am trying calculate desolvation free energy of Na+ in water using option
 couple-moltype, not by creating B-topology in the .top file.

 At first, I switched off coulombic interaction using:

 couple-moltype   = Na+
 couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
 couple-lambda1   = vdw

 Then I tried to switch off LJ interaction using couple-lambda0 = vdw and
 couple-lambda1 = none, but obtained this warning:

 WARNING 1 [file equil_NVT000.mdp, line 95]:
   For proper sampling of the (nearly) decoupled state, stochastic dynamics
 should be used

 This is strange, because my .mdp file has only 94 lines.



Regardless of the line number, the error message is pretty explicit - you 
probably have integrator = md in your .mdp file when you should have 
integrator = sd.


-Justin


 Thanks in advance for any help or suggestion.

 Best,

 Eva

 For convenience, I am pasting weak coupling algorithm section and free
 energy section from my .mdp file. The simulation was performed at constant
 volume using strong temperature coupling, since it was an equilibration
 run.

 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
 Tcoupl   = v-rescale
 tc-grps  = system
 tau_t= 0.1
 ref_t= 300
 nsttcouple   = 1

 ; Free energy control stuff
 free_energy  = yes
 init_lambda  = 0.0
 delta_lambda = 0
 foreign_lambda   = 0.1
 sc-alpha = 0.7
 sc-power = 1
 sc-sigma = 0.3
 nstdhdl  = 10
 separate-dhdl-file   = yes
 dhdl-derivatives = yes
 dh_hist_size = 0
 dh_hist_spacing  = 0.1
 couple-moltype   = Na+
 couple-lambda0   = vdw
 couple-lambda1   = none
 couple-intramol  = no



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Re: [gmx-users] COM pulling - speptide

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



C Johnson wrote:
If you're proceeding blindly, then you're likely going to frustrate yourself to 
no end.  There is literature relevant to what you're doing - pulling on 
peptides/proteins to unfold them is something that's been done.  So you should 
have some methodological precedent.


Non-Protein is a default group that should have been written to the .ndx file 
by make_ndx.  The only reason I can see for this error to come up is if you've 
removed it from the pull.ndx file.  If you're using my .mdp file, then 
Non-Protein is a temperature coupling group.



-Justin


I know there is literature relevant but is there any that explains how to do it in Gromacs?  



I don't know.  All I implied was that some of the mystery can be taken out of 
the process.  A good Methods section can be translated to the parameters needed 
by Gromacs as input.  Usually how-to material is reserved for tutorials, not 
the literature.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] problem with g_density

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Ozge Engin wrote:

Hi all,

I have some difficulties with understanding the output of g_density 
command. I have a system composed of two Lennard Jones particles, A and 
B in a 20.712x20.712x20.712 simulation box. The parameters between the 
two particles are given such that they do not mix, but they undergo a 
phase separation. I want to investigate the density profile of the 
system, and  I used the following command line to do that:


g_density -f traj.xtc -n index.ndx -dens number -sl 100

The density profile for the two types of particles looks OK except the 
boundaries of the simulation box. I mean I would not expect to get a 
number other than 0 at the lower and upper boundaries. I have also 
searched the mailing list. There was an e-mail similar to that one, but 
it was not replied.


I have attached the density profile in the attachment.

Why is it the case?



The behavior at the box boundaries is identical to that of the middle of the box 
(10 nm), which indicates to me that all interfaces are acting equivalently, 
which should be reassuring, I would think :)  You're not seeing complete mixing 
of your two species, but there is some diffusion between the phases, otherwise 
both of your particles should drop to exactly zero density on either side of the 
box middle, wouldn't they?


-Justin


Regards

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Re: [gmx-users] problem with g_density

2010-10-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

 You're not
 seeing complete mixing of your two species, but there is some diffusion
 between the phases, otherwise both of your particles should drop to exactly
 zero density on either side of the box middle, wouldn't they?

No, not if there are undulations of the interface.

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Re: 回复: [gmx-users] the first 10 mis sing interactions,except for exclusions...

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



英雄不再寂寞 wrote:

Dear gmxers,
  The problem continues to puzzle me. I realize that only the EPON 
molecules with two phenyls lead to the problem. Then, may it be due to 
the ring catenations in the structure? Please give me some hints. Thanks 
a lot.


Sounds like it could be a topology issue.  Some tips are here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up#Diagnosing_an_Unstable_System

-Justin


Yours sincerely,
Chaofu Wu, Dr.
-- 原始邮件 --
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*主题:* Re: [gmx-users] the first 10 missing interactions,except for 
exclusions...
 



英雄不再寂寞 wrote:
  Dear gmxers,
I try to simulate a complex system using gmx-4.5.1. I have carried out
  the minimization without any errors, but when it comes to molecular
  dynamics, some errors are printed and given below. How to deal with this
  problem? Please give me some hints. Thanks a lot for any reply.
  
  Yours sincerely,

  Chaofu Wu, Dr.
  
  xiaowu...@linux-s38y:~/workshop

  mailto:xiaowu...@linux-s38y:~/workshop mdrun -s detamix_md01.tpr -o
  detamix_md01.trr -c detamix_md01.gro -e detamix_md01.edr -g
  detamix_md01.log -v -np 4 -N 4
   :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers
  :-)  VERSION 4.5.1  (-:
  Written by Emile Apol, Rossen Apostolov, Herman J.C. Berendsen,
Aldert van Buuren, P盲r Bjelkmar, Rudi van Drunen, Anton Feenstra,
  Gerrit Groenhof, Peter Kasson, Per Larsson, Peiter Meulenhoff,
Teemu Murtola, Szilard Pall, Sander Pronk, Roland Schultz,
  Michael Shirts, Alfons Sijbers, Peter Tieleman,
 Berk Hess, David van der Spoel, and Erik Lindahl.
 Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
  Copyright (c) 2001-2010, The GROMACS development team at
  Uppsala University  The Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden.
  check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.
   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
   as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
   of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
  :-)  mdrun  (-:
  Option Filename  Type Description
  
  ..
  Option   Type   Value   Description
  --
  ..
  Getting Loaded...
  Reading file detamix_md01.tpr, VERSION 4.5.1 (single precision)
  Starting 4 threads
  Loaded with Money
 
  NOTE: Periodic molecules: can not easily determine the required minimum
  bonded cut-off, using half the non-bonded cut-off
  Making 1D domain decomposition 4 x 1 x 1
  starting mdrun '40 deta + 100 epon862 + 1 SWCNT(10,10)'
  400 steps,   4000.0 ps.
  step 0
  NOTE: Turning on dynamic load balancing
  step 39500, will finish Mon Oct 25 02:51:47 2010vol 0.61  imb F 14%
  A list of missing interactions:
Ryckaert-Bell. of  12880 missing  2
  Molecule type 'EPON'
  the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
Ryckaert-Bell. atoms   11   12   14   16 global  5481  5482  5484 
  5486
Ryckaert-Bell. atoms   16   21   23   11 global  5486  5491  5493 
  5481

  ---
  Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.1
  Source code file: domdec_top.c, line: 356
  Fatal error:
  2 of the 79000 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some
  atoms involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance
  (0.5 nm) or the two-body cut-off distance (1 nm), see option -rdd, for
  pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
  For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the 
GROMACS

  website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
  ---
  Jede der Scherben spiegelt das Licht (Wir sind Helden)
  xiaowu...@linux-s38y:~/workshop mailto:xiaowu...@linux-s38y:~/workshop
  
 


Sounds like your system is blowing up.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up

-Justin


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[gmx-users] Re: COM pulling - speptide

2010-10-25 Thread Thomas Schlesier


If you're proceeding blindly, then you're likely going to frustrate yourself to
no end.  There is literature relevant to what you're doing - pulling on
peptides/proteins to unfold them is something that's been done.  So you should
have some methodological precedent.
   
Non-Protein is a default group that should have been written to the .ndx file

by make_ndx.  The only reason I can see for this error to come up is if you've
removed it from the pull.ndx file.  If you're using my .mdp file, then
Non-Protein is a temperature coupling group.
   
-Justin
   
 I know there is literature relevant but is there any that explains how to do it in Gromacs?


Look into Justin's Umbrella Sampling tutorial. In step 5 it explain a COM 
pulling simulation.

I use for this kind most of the time
pull_geometry = position
but then you must define a pulling direction (vector from 'pull_group0' to 
pull_group1').
For the 'pull_dim' i would set all 3 parameters to yes, if you want to do an 
afm-pulling experiment simulation. If you're pulling in the z-direction and 
have 'pull_dim = N N Y' your pull_group is free to move in the xy-plane (with 
no force acting on it), but if you think of an afm-experiment, there would also 
be a force-component in the x- and y-direction.

Greetings
Thomas

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Re: [gmx-users] defining a 3 body user defined potential

2010-10-25 Thread Ivan Gladich
Dear Amit
As far as I know, 3-body interaction potential is not defined in
gromacs. If you want to introduce it in Gromacs, you have to change the
source code. It is not easy but not impossible and it was already done
for TIP4P, see Kumar and Skinner, J. Phys. Chem. B, 112,8311-8318, 2008

I hope this help
Ivan

Amit Choubey wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I was wondering if there is a way to define user defined potential which
 involves 3 particles. Thank you for any input.
 
 
 Amit
 
 


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[gmx-users] trjconv t0/timestep parameter confusion

2010-10-25 Thread Martin Hoefling

Hey Folks,

I am having trouble with the t0 parameter in conjunction with -b. What  
I am trying to obtain is the following: Trajectory starts at 0 ends at  
11. From this trajectory, I wanna write out frames from 1 to  
11 (so discard the first 1) and set starting time to 0 so that  
I get a trajectory from 0 to 10.


What I tried is the following: trjconv -f in.xtc -b 1 -t0 0 -o out.xtc

This leads to a never ending trjconv process writing out a trajectory  
with frames and a deltat of 0.


Did I misunderstood the parameters somehow? Tested with 4.0.7 and 4.5,  
time units are ps and trajectories have 1ps sampling.


Best wishes

Martin

BTW:

The workaround for this problem:

First writing -b into a temp trajectory and then treating the tmp  
trajectory with -t0 0


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Re: [gmx-users] trjconv t0/timestep parameter confusion

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Abraham
Maybe these parameters do not work in concert. Try a two-pass version - first 
discard the first 1, then later relabel the times.

Mark

- Original Message -
From: Martin Hoefling mhoe...@gwdg.de
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 0:29
Subject: [gmx-users] trjconv t0/timestep parameter confusion
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hey Folks,
 
 I am having trouble with the t0 parameter in conjunction with -
 b. What I am trying to obtain is the following: Trajectory 
 starts at 0 ends at 11. From this trajectory, I wanna write 
 out frames from 1 to 11 (so discard the first 1) and 
 set starting time to 0 so that I get a trajectory from 0 to 10.
 
 What I tried is the following: trjconv -f in.xtc -b 1 -t0 0 -
 o out.xtc
 
 This leads to a never ending trjconv process writing out a 
 trajectory with frames and a deltat of 0.
 
 Did I misunderstood the parameters somehow? Tested with 4.0.7 
 and 4.5, time units are ps and trajectories have 1ps sampling.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Martin
 
 BTW:
 
 The workaround for this problem:
 
 First writing -b into a temp trajectory and then treating the 
 tmp trajectory with -t0 0
 
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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 78, Issue 186

2010-10-25 Thread eva . pluharova
Hi Justin,

thank you for suggestion about changing the integrator, but I would like
to know why it is not possible to sample properly by md under these
circumstances.

1. Do you know any papers about sampling efficiency of systems with almost
or completely switched off particles? How does it depend on the kind of
thermostat or barostat?

2. Note, that you can switch off the LJ particle also by creating B
topology with sigma and epsilon equal to 0 in the .top file, not using
couple-moltype. Doing so, there is no warning, but these approaches are
equivalent. This seems like internal inconsistency in Gromacs.

Thanks again for any hints.

Best,

Eva


  Hello all,

  I am trying calculate desolvation free energy of Na+ in water using
 option
  couple-moltype, not by creating B-topology in the .top file.

  At first, I switched off coulombic interaction using:

  couple-moltype   = Na+
  couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
  couple-lambda1   = vdw

  Then I tried to switch off LJ interaction using couple-lambda0 = vdw
 and
  couple-lambda1 = none, but obtained this warning:

  WARNING 1 [file equil_NVT000.mdp, line 95]:
For proper sampling of the (nearly) decoupled state, stochastic
 dynamics
  should be used

  This is strange, because my .mdp file has only 94 lines.


 Regardless of the line number, the error message is pretty explicit - you
 probably have integrator = md in your .mdp file when you should have
 integrator = sd.

 -Justin

  Thanks in advance for any help or suggestion.

  Best,

  Eva

  For convenience, I am pasting weak coupling algorithm section and free
  energy section from my .mdp file. The simulation was performed at
 constant
  volume using strong temperature coupling, since it was an equilibration
  run.

  ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
  Tcoupl   = v-rescale
  tc-grps  = system
  tau_t= 0.1
  ref_t= 300
  nsttcouple   = 1

  ; Free energy control stuff
  free_energy  = yes
  init_lambda  = 0.0
  delta_lambda = 0
  foreign_lambda   = 0.1
  sc-alpha = 0.7
  sc-power = 1
  sc-sigma = 0.3
  nstdhdl  = 10
  separate-dhdl-file   = yes
  dhdl-derivatives = yes
  dh_hist_size = 0
  dh_hist_spacing  = 0.1
  couple-moltype   = Na+
  couple-lambda0   = vdw
  couple-lambda1   = none
  couple-intramol  = no


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Re: [gmx-users] Free energy calculations - desolvation energy of Na+

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



eva.pluhar...@marge.uochb.cas.cz wrote:

Hi Justin,

thank you for suggestion about changing the integrator, but I would like
to know why it is not possible to sample properly by md under these
circumstances.

1. Do you know any papers about sampling efficiency of systems with almost
or completely switched off particles? How does it depend on the kind of
thermostat or barostat?



I don't know about papers, but there are several relevant discussions in the 
list archive, i.e.:


http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2003-June/006054.html


2. Note, that you can switch off the LJ particle also by creating B
topology with sigma and epsilon equal to 0 in the .top file, not using
couple-moltype. Doing so, there is no warning, but these approaches are
equivalent. This seems like internal inconsistency in Gromacs.



Sorry, can't comment here.  Topology manipulation is outdated as of version 4.0, 
but I guess it still works.  Maybe some checks need to be implemented in this 
case.  It certainly seems like there can be artifacts if other .mdp parameters 
are not set properly.


-Justin


Thanks again for any hints.

Best,

Eva



 Hello all,

 I am trying calculate desolvation free energy of Na+ in water using
option
 couple-moltype, not by creating B-topology in the .top file.

 At first, I switched off coulombic interaction using:

 couple-moltype   = Na+
 couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
 couple-lambda1   = vdw

 Then I tried to switch off LJ interaction using couple-lambda0 = vdw
and
 couple-lambda1 = none, but obtained this warning:

 WARNING 1 [file equil_NVT000.mdp, line 95]:
   For proper sampling of the (nearly) decoupled state, stochastic
dynamics
 should be used

 This is strange, because my .mdp file has only 94 lines.


Regardless of the line number, the error message is pretty explicit - you
probably have integrator = md in your .mdp file when you should have
integrator = sd.

-Justin


 Thanks in advance for any help or suggestion.

 Best,

 Eva

 For convenience, I am pasting weak coupling algorithm section and free
 energy section from my .mdp file. The simulation was performed at
constant
 volume using strong temperature coupling, since it was an equilibration
 run.

 ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
 Tcoupl   = v-rescale
 tc-grps  = system
 tau_t= 0.1
 ref_t= 300
 nsttcouple   = 1

 ; Free energy control stuff
 free_energy  = yes
 init_lambda  = 0.0
 delta_lambda = 0
 foreign_lambda   = 0.1
 sc-alpha = 0.7
 sc-power = 1
 sc-sigma = 0.3
 nstdhdl  = 10
 separate-dhdl-file   = yes
 dhdl-derivatives = yes
 dh_hist_size = 0
 dh_hist_spacing  = 0.1
 couple-moltype   = Na+
 couple-lambda0   = vdw
 couple-lambda1   = none
 couple-intramol  = no


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[gmx-users] trjconv t0/timestep parameter confusion

2010-10-25 Thread Martin Hoefling

Hey Folks,

I am having trouble with the t0 parameter in conjunction with -b. What  
I am trying to obtain is the following: Trajectory starts at 0 ends at  
11. From this trajectory, I wanna write out frames from 1 to  
11 (so discard the first 1) and set starting time to 0 so that  
I get a trajectory from 0 to 10.


What I tried is the following: trjconv -f in.xtc -b 1 -t0 0 -o out.xtc

This leads to a never ending trjconv process writing out a trajectory  
with frames and a deltat of 0.


Did I misunderstood the parameters somehow? Tested with 4.0.7 and 4.5,  
time units are ps and trajectories have 1ps sampling.


Best wishes

Martin

BTW:

The workaround for this problem:

First writing -b into a temp trajectory and then treating the tmp  
trajectory with -t0 0

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[gmx-users] problem with g_density

2010-10-25 Thread chris . neale
The problem is considerably worse than that. g_density is incorrect  
for every bin in the NPT ensemble. First, you have fluctuations in the  
z dimension. Second, g_density determines the bin as: slice = (int)(z  
/ (*slWidth)); in calc_density() after wrapping coordinates around  
periodic z in all gromacs versions that I have seen, including v4.0.7  
and v4.5.1. Thus, even the values near the bilayer center that appear  
to be ok are actually incorrect due to the addition of  
periodic-fluctuation-based noise. I've mentioned this on-list  
previously. Given this problem, the error introduced to g_hbond in the  
gmx4.5 series, and the lack of a proper test suite, I suggest always  
writing your own code that can test at least two frames of the output  
of any analysis program (even if your code only takes input as pdbs  
and runs slowly) so that you can develop some confidence in the output  
of the gromacs analysis tool.


Chris.


You're not
seeing complete mixing of your two species, but there is some diffusion
between the phases, otherwise both of your particles should drop to exactly
zero density on either side of the box middle, wouldn't they?


No, not if there are undulations of the interface.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


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RE: [gmx-users] Job crash: checkpoint file

2010-10-25 Thread Shi, Chuanyin
I am having exactly the same problem recently.
The replica exchange job stops around 11000 steps.
Switch to another cluster and the job is running fine.
I wonder how often you've seen this type of crashing and any solutions for this?
Thanks.



Chuanyin Shi
Department of Chemistry  Biochemistry
University of Oklahoma
Email: c...@ou.edu

From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Job crash: checkpoint file

Jianhui Tian wrote:
 Dear GMX users,

 I am running a replica simulation and the job crashed with the following
 message:

 File input/output error:
 Cannot rename checkpoint file; maybe you are out of quota?

  From the mailling list, I see this might be a permission problem.
 However, I checked the file permission and nothing wrong was noticed.
 If I rerun the crashed simulation, it goes through the second time. This
 seems strong. Any suggestion is welcomed.


I've seen this happen when our filesystem blips.  It seems like you're able to
run your job, so I don't think there's anything to do about it, except perhaps
inquire with your sysadmins about the stability of the filesystem, and whether
or not you can expect to have this happen frequently.

-Justin

 JH


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Re: [gmx-users] Job crash: checkpoint file

2010-10-25 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2010-10-25 17.58, Shi, Chuanyin wrote:

I am having exactly the same problem recently.
The replica exchange job stops around 11000 steps.
Switch to another cluster and the job is running fine.
I wonder how often you've seen this type of crashing and any solutions for this?
Thanks.


Have you checked your quota?
I had the same problem recently, and I was indeed out of quota.




Chuanyin Shi
Department of Chemistry  Biochemistry
University of Oklahoma
Email: c...@ou.edu

From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:19 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Job crash: checkpoint file

Jianhui Tian wrote:

Dear GMX users,

I am running a replica simulation and the job crashed with the following
message:

File input/output error:
Cannot rename checkpoint file; maybe you are out of quota?

  From the mailling list, I see this might be a permission problem.
However, I checked the file permission and nothing wrong was noticed.
If I rerun the crashed simulation, it goes through the second time. This
seems strong. Any suggestion is welcomed.



I've seen this happen when our filesystem blips.  It seems like you're able to
run your job, so I don't think there's anything to do about it, except perhaps
inquire with your sysadmins about the stability of the filesystem, and whether
or not you can expect to have this happen frequently.

-Justin


JH



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RE: [gmx-users] Job crash: checkpoint file

2010-10-25 Thread Shi, Chuanyin
I wish the error would come from the quota.
But the disk quota is fine, we still have 2.0TB on the scratch space which is 
shared by everyone.
And I have other jobs running and no problem with writing outputs.
I've tried smaller REMD jobs on the cluster using only 1 node (8 cpus) and 
seems to be no problem.
But using 7 nodes and one (or two) node complains about that.
And several weird files are generated: mdrun_mpi.80s-12939,v002.local.btr, 
mdrun_mpi.80s-12940,v002.local.btr, 
v002 is the name of the node.


Chuanyin Shi
Department of Chemistry  Biochemistry
University of Oklahoma
Email: c...@ou.edu

From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of David van der Spoel [sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:21 AM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Job crash: checkpoint file

On 2010-10-25 17.58, Shi, Chuanyin wrote:
 I am having exactly the same problem recently.
 The replica exchange job stops around 11000 steps.
 Switch to another cluster and the job is running fine.
 I wonder how often you've seen this type of crashing and any solutions for 
 this?
 Thanks.

Have you checked your quota?
I had the same problem recently, and I was indeed out of quota.



 Chuanyin Shi
 Department of Chemistry  Biochemistry
 University of Oklahoma
 Email: c...@ou.edu
 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
 of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
 Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:19 PM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Job crash: checkpoint file

 Jianhui Tian wrote:
 Dear GMX users,

 I am running a replica simulation and the job crashed with the following
 message:

 File input/output error:
 Cannot rename checkpoint file; maybe you are out of quota?

   From the mailling list, I see this might be a permission problem.
 However, I checked the file permission and nothing wrong was noticed.
 If I rerun the crashed simulation, it goes through the second time. This
 seems strong. Any suggestion is welcomed.


 I've seen this happen when our filesystem blips.  It seems like you're able to
 run your job, so I don't think there's anything to do about it, except perhaps
 inquire with your sysadmins about the stability of the filesystem, and whether
 or not you can expect to have this happen frequently.

 -Justin

 JH


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Re: [gmx-users] defining a 3 body user defined potential

2010-10-25 Thread Amit Choubey
Thank you very much for the input Ivan.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Ivan Gladich iglad...@purdue.edu wrote:

 Dear Amit
 As far as I know, 3-body interaction potential is not defined in
 gromacs. If you want to introduce it in Gromacs, you have to change the
 source code. It is not easy but not impossible and it was already done
 for TIP4P, see Kumar and Skinner, J. Phys. Chem. B, 112,8311-8318, 2008

 I hope this help
 Ivan

 Amit Choubey wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I was wondering if there is a way to define user defined potential which
  involves 3 particles. Thank you for any input.
 
 
  Amit
 
 


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Re: [gmx-users] GPU slower than I7

2010-10-25 Thread Renato Freitas
Hi,

My OS is Fedora 13 (64 bits) and I used gcc 4.4.4. I ran the program
you sent me. Bellow are the results of 5 runs. As you can see the
results are rougly the same

[ren...@scrat ~]$ ./time
2.09 2.102991
[ren...@scrat ~]$ ./time
2.09 2.102808
[ren...@scrat ~]$ ./time
2.09 2.104577
[ren...@scrat ~]$ ./time
2.09 2.103943
[ren...@scrat ~]$ ./time
2.09 2.104471

Bellow are part of the /src/configure.h
.
.
.

/* Define to 1 if you have the MSVC _aligned_malloc() function. */
/* #undef HAVE__ALIGNED_MALLOC */

/* Define to 1 if you have the gettimeofday() function. */
#define HAVE_GETTIMEOFDAY

/* Define to 1 if you have the cbrt() function. */
#define HAVE_CBRT
.
.
.

 Is this OK?

Renato




2010/10/22 Roland Schulz rol...@utk.edu:
 Hi,

 On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Renato Freitas renato...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you think that the NODE and Real time difference could be
 attributed to some compilation problem in the mdrun-gpu. Despite I'm
 asking this I didn't get any error in the compilation.

 It is very odd that these are different for you system. What operating
 system and compiler do you use?
 Is HAVE_GETTIMEOFDAY set in src/config.h?
 I attached a small test program which uses the two different timers used for
 NODE and Real time. You can compile it with cc time.c -o time and run it
 with ./time. Do you get roughly the same time twice with the test program or
 do you see the same discrepancy as with GROMACS?
 Roland

 Thanks,

 Renato

 2010/10/22 Szilárd Páll szilard.p...@cbr.su.se:
  Hi Renato,
 
  First of all, what you're seeing is pretty normal, especially that you
  have a CPU that is crossing the border of insane :) Why is it normal?
  The PME algorithms are just simply not very well not well suited for
  current GPU architectures. With an ill-suited algorithm you won't be
  able to see the speedups you can often see in other application areas
  - -even more so that you're comparing to Gromacs on a i7 980X. For
  more info + benchmarks see the Gromacs-GPU page:
  http://www.gromacs.org/gpu
 
  However, there is one strange thing you also pointed out. The fact
  that the NODE and Real time in your mdrun-gpu timing summary is
  not the same, but has 3x deviation is _very_ unusual. I've ran
  mdrun-gpu on quite a wide variety of hardware but I've never seen
  those two counter deviate. It might be an artifact from the cycle
  counters used internally that behave in an unusual way on your CPU.
 
  One other thing I should point out is that you would be better off
  using the standard mdrun which in 4.5 by default has thread-support
  and therefore will run on a single cpu/node without MPI!
 
  Cheers,
  --
  Szilárd
 
 
 
  On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Renato Freitas renato...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Hi gromacs users,
 
  I have installed the lastest version of gromacs (4.5.1) in an i7 980X
  (6 cores or 12 with HT on; 3.3 GHz) with 12GB of RAM and compiled its
  mpi version. Also I compiled the GPU-accelerated
  version of gromacs. Then I did a  2 ns simulation using a small system
  (11042 atoms)  to compare the performance of mdrun-gpu vs mdrun_mpi.
  The results that I got are bellow:
 
  
  My *.mdp is:
 
  constraints         =  all-bonds
  integrator          =  md
  dt                  =  0.002    ; ps !
  nsteps              =  100  ; total 2000 ps.
  nstlist             =  10
  ns_type             =  grid
  coulombtype    = PME
  rvdw                = 0.9
  rlist               = 0.9
  rcoulomb            = 0.9
  fourierspacing      = 0.10
  pme_order           = 4
  ewald_rtol          = 1e-5
  vdwtype             =  cut-off
  pbc                 =  xyz
  epsilon_rf    =  0
  comm_mode           =  linear
  nstxout             =  1000
  nstvout             =  0
  nstfout             =  0
  nstxtcout           =  1000
  nstlog              =  1000
  nstenergy           =  1000
  ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in four groups
  tcoupl              = berendsen
  tc-grps             = system
  tau-t               = 0.1
  ref-t               = 298
  ; Pressure coupling is on
  Pcoupl = berendsen
  pcoupltype = isotropic
  tau_p = 0.5
  compressibility = 4.5e-5
  ref_p = 1.0
  ; Generate velocites is on at 298 K.
  gen_vel = no
 
  
  RUNNING GROMACS ON GPU
 
  mdrun-gpu -s topol.tpr -v   out 
 
  Here is a part of the md.log:
 
  Started mdrun on node 0 Wed Oct 20 09:52:09 2010
  .
  .
  .
      R E A L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G
 
   Computing:     Nodes   Number          G-Cycles        Seconds     %
 
  --
   Write traj.    1               1021                    106.075 31.7
           0.2
   Rest                   1               64125.577               19178.6
  99.8
 
  

Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-25 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
I run a test simulation for -rerun. I didn't change the topology file.

grompp -f md.mdp  -c  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb  -p  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.top
 -o 3.tpr
mpirun -machinefile cp -np 8 mdrun -s 3.tpr -o 3.trr   -c 
solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb -e 3.edr -g 3.log

with -rerun
grompp -f md.mdp  -c  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb  -p  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.top
 -o 6.tpr
mpirun -machinefile cp -np 8 mdrun -s 6.tpr -o 6.trr -rerun 3.trr  -c 
solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb -e 6.edr -g 6.log
rm -f *#*

I calculate the total energy by
g_energy -f 3.edr -o 3.xvg
g_energy -f 6.edr -o 6.xvg

The total enregy vaies beteen +- 30.00 KJ/mol.
It should be constant since I using same topology file and trajectroy.
Why the total energy is not contant.
NIlesh




On Thu, October 21, 2010 10:24 am, Mark Abraham wrote:
 On 22/10/2010 1:17 AM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote:

 I am doing solvation dynamics for my system.
 I have system with diatomic (PA---NE)solute surrounded by water
 molecules.

 I want to run simulation with two differcent cases.
 1. PA charge=0 and NE charge=0 : No charge on solute
 2. PA charge=+1 and NE charge=-1 : Charge on solute


 I want to calculate the energy at each step keeping the solvent
 configration same.

 IF I start a simulation with no charge on solute (case1), I have the
 energy for 1 step. I want to calculate the energy with charge on solute
 (case 2) with same configration water molecules.
 Each step  I want to calculate the energy with and without charge on
 solute since the configration of solvent will be same for that step.

 I was thinking two make two topologies file with charge and with out
 charge on solute. I don't know how to use them simultaneously during the
  simulation.

 Well, you don't use them simultaneously. You run a simulation on
 whatever you think will generate a relevant conformational ensemble. Then
 you want to use mdrun -rerun twice on the resulting trajectory, using .tpr
 files based on .top files corresponding to the two cases in order to
 create your comparison.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] CT3 terminal

2010-10-25 Thread Sai Pooja
Hi,

I use pdb2gmx command to convert a pdb file to a .gro and .top file(using
CHARMM forcefield). For the C terminus, I use the CT3 option which is NCH3.
When I use editconf to get a pdbfile from the .gro file generated, the C=0
and the NCH3  seem to clash in space in pymol.

Is there a way of correcting this?

Pooja

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[gmx-users] Gromos 45A4

2010-10-25 Thread Hong, Liang
Dear all, 
I have seen people using Gromos 45A4 force field to simulate sugars in Gromacs. 
But there is no such force field in the version 4.07 I'm using now. Where can I 
find the 45A4 force field? Or use some other force filed to replace it?

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[gmx-users] g_rmsf -res = does Gromacs do average over time for each residue ?

2010-10-25 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -s abc.tpr -res -o abcrmsf.xvg

 From manual = it saysCalculate averages for each residue  
 =  does Gromacs do average over time for each residue
?
 = however, the results did not show difference with
and without  -res  






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Re: [gmx-users] g_rmsf -res = does Gromacs do average over time for each residue ?

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:





Hi
g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -s abc.tpr -res -o abcrmsf.xvg

 From manual = it saysCalculate averages for each residue  
 =  does Gromacs do average over time for each 
residue ?


The average is done over time and over the atoms in the residue.

 = however, the results did not show difference 
with and without  -res  




I doubt that.  Without -res, you get RMSF per atom.  With -res, you get RMSF per 
residue.  The output is inherently (and necessarily) different.


-Justin

 





Thank you
Lin





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[gmx-users] g_rmsf -res = what does this function work?

2010-10-25 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi


From Manual
http://manual.gromacs.org/current/online/g_rmsf.html

g_rmsf =

optiontypedefaultdescription
-[no]res  bool  noCalculate averages for each
residue



what does this function work?

Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-25 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
I run a test simulation for -rerun. I didn't change the topology file.

grompp -f md.mdp  -c  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb  -p  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.top
 -o 3.tpr
mpirun -machinefile cp -np 8 mdrun -s 3.tpr -o 3.trr   -c
solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb -e 3.edr -g 3.log

with -rerun
grompp -f md.mdp  -c  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb  -p  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.top
 -o 6.tpr
mpirun -machinefile cp -np 8 mdrun -s 6.tpr -o 6.trr -rerun 3.trr  -c
solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb -e 6.edr -g 6.log

I calculate the total energy by
g_energy -f 3.edr -o 3.xvg
g_energy -f 6.edr -o 6.xvg

The total energy varies between +- 30.00 KJ/mol.
It should be constant since I using same topology file and trajectory.
Why the total energy is not constant.
NIlesh




On Thu, October 21, 2010 10:24 am, Mark Abraham wrote:
 On 22/10/2010 1:17 AM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote:

 I am doing solvation dynamics for my system.
 I have system with diatomic (PA---NE)solute surrounded by water
 molecules.

 I want to run simulation with two differcent cases.
 1. PA charge=0 and NE charge=0 : No charge on solute
 2. PA charge=+1 and NE charge=-1 : Charge on solute


 I want to calculate the energy at each step keeping the solvent
 configration same.

 IF I start a simulation with no charge on solute (case1), I have the
 energy for 1 step. I want to calculate the energy with charge on solute
 (case 2) with same configration water molecules.
 Each step  I want to calculate the energy with and without charge on
 solute since the configration of solvent will be same for that step.

 I was thinking two make two topologies file with charge and with out
 charge on solute. I don't know how to use them simultaneously during the
  simulation.

 Well, you don't use them simultaneously. You run a simulation on
 whatever you think will generate a relevant conformational ensemble. Then
 you want to use mdrun -rerun twice on the resulting trajectory, using .tpr
 files based on .top files corresponding to the two cases in order to
 create your comparison.

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Re: [gmx-users] g_rmsf -res = what does this function work?

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:



Hi




 From Manual
http://manual.gromacs.org/current/online/g_rmsf.html

g_rmsf =

optiontypedefaultdescription
-[no]res  bool  noCalculate averages for each 
residue




what does this function work?



Looking into the source code will answer this.

-Justin


Thank you
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[gmx-users] g_rmsf -res yes ? = should I type yes to activate the average-function ?

2010-10-25 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi

g_rmsf -res yes ?

g_rmsf -res no ?


should I type yes to activate the average-function?


As i tested g_rmsf -res,
the average is not over time and not over the atoms in the residue.

Anyway, how to activate the average function ?
Thank you
Lin



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:




 Hi
 g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -s abc.tpr -res -o abcrmsf.xvg

  From manual = it saysCalculate averages for each residue  
  =  does Gromacs do average over time for each
 residue ?

The average is done over time and over the atoms in the residue.

  = however, the results did not show difference
 with and without  -res  


I doubt that.  Without -res, you get RMSF per atom.  With -res, you get RMSF
per
residue.  The output is inherently (and necessarily) different.

-Justin






 Thank you
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RE: [gmx-users] Reg; MD of DCE part II

2010-10-25 Thread Dallas Warren
I performed md simulation of 108 dichloroethane molecules in
isothermal-isobaric ensemble with the box size

3.002*2.17*2.17. after the simulation my box size has changed
considerably from the initial size to 2.87882 2.08095

2.08095.why this happens?

 

Density was obviously too lower under the conditions of the simulation.
Look at the change of pressure, volume and density for the box during
that simulation.

 

my second question is can i have a control over the box dimensions
changes during md (i.e when the box dimensions

changes during md i want to change it only on one axis(say x axis) and
want to keep the length of the other two axis (say

y and z) same as that of my initial box size? any help is highly
apprecited.

 

Look at the pressure coupling settings, look at anisotropic pressure
coupling.

 

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren

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a nail. 

 

 

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Re: [gmx-users] g_rmsf -res yes ? = should I type yes to activate the average-function ?

2010-10-25 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:



Hi

g_rmsf -res yes ?

g_rmsf -res no ?


should I type yes to activate the average-function? 



No.  The command is either g_rmsf or g_rmsf -res.  There is no yes or no 
required.




As i tested g_rmsf -res,
the average is not over time and not over the atoms in the residue.



You will not get a plot over time.  The calculation is done over time, but only 
the final result is plotted.  If you have a plot of RMSF vs. residue, then 
averaging has been done over all the frames supplied, and over all the atoms in 
each residue.  Unless you can prove that something has not been done correctly, 
then there is no need to repeatedly post the same question.


-Justin


Anyway, how to activate the average function ?
Thank you
Lin



Chih-Ying Lin wrote:
 
 
 
 
  Hi
  g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -s abc.tpr -res -o abcrmsf.xvg
 
   From manual = it saysCalculate averages for each residue  
   =  does Gromacs do average over time for each
  residue ?

The average is done over time and over the atoms in the residue.

   = however, the results did not show difference
  with and without  -res  
 

I doubt that.  Without -res, you get RMSF per atom.  With -res, you get 
RMSF per

residue.  The output is inherently (and necessarily) different.

-Justin

 
 
 
 
 
  Thank you
  Lin
 



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Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: Nilesh Dhumal ndhu...@andrew.cmu.edu
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:50
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)
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 I run a test simulation for -rerun. I didn't change the topology file.
 
 grompp -f md.mdp  -c  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb  -
 p  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.top
  -o 3.tpr
 mpirun -machinefile cp -np 8 mdrun -s 3.tpr -o 3.trr   
 -c
 solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb -e 3.edr -g 3.log
 
 with -rerun
 grompp -f md.mdp  -c  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb  -
 p  solvent-bmi-pf6-128.top
  -o 6.tpr
 mpirun -machinefile cp -np 8 mdrun -s 6.tpr -o 6.trr -rerun 
 3.trr  -c
 solvent-bmi-pf6-128.pdb -e 6.edr -g 6.log
 
 I calculate the total energy by
 g_energy -f 3.edr -o 3.xvg
 g_energy -f 6.edr -o 6.xvg
 
 The total energy varies between +- 30.00 KJ/mol.
 It should be constant since I using same topology file and trajectory.
 Why the total energy is not constant.

Those .tpr should be identical - but you can check that with gmxcheck. Reruns 
do neighbour-searching every step, whereas your normal simulation followed the 
nstlist setting. That's part of why my earlier advice suggested doing reruns 
for each simulation you wish to compare. You should be able to get good/better 
agreement for steps where nstlist directed neighbour-searching in the original 
run. Also, whether or not constraints have been applied (and when!) could 
influence the energies to about this degree. I don't recall the details here.

Even once you've removed all algorithm-specific sources of difference, there 
are other sources of non-reproducibility, such as the assignment of particles 
to DD cells. Your original mdrun probably used dynamic load-balancing, and that 
cannot be reproduced in the DD used by the rerun. (Or indeed by a repeat of 
your original mdrun!) Setting -dlb no in the original simulation might be 
enough to get agreement here, or maybe mdrun -reprod will be required.

Mark

 NIlesh
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, October 21, 2010 10:24 am, Mark Abraham wrote:
  On 22/10/2010 1:17 AM, Nilesh Dhumal wrote:
 
  I am doing solvation dynamics for my system.
  I have system with diatomic (PA---NE)solute surrounded by water
  molecules.
 
  I want to run simulation with two differcent cases.
  1. PA charge=0 and NE charge=0 : No charge on solute
  2. PA charge=+1 and NE charge=-1 : Charge on solute
 
 
  I want to calculate the energy at each step keeping the solvent
  configration same.
 
  IF I start a simulation with no charge on solute (case1), I 
 have the
  energy for 1 step. I want to calculate the energy with charge 
 on solute
  (case 2) with same configration water molecules.
  Each step  I want to calculate the energy with and 
 without charge on
  solute since the configration of solvent will be same for 
 that step.
 
  I was thinking two make two topologies file with charge and 
 with out
  charge on solute. I don't know how to use them simultaneously 
 during the
   simulation.
 
  Well, you don't use them simultaneously. You run a simulation on
  whatever you think will generate a relevant conformational 
 ensemble. Then
  you want to use mdrun -rerun twice on the resulting 
 trajectory, using .tpr
  files based on .top files corresponding to the two cases in 
 order to
  create your comparison.
 
  Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] CT3 terminal

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: Sai Pooja saipo...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:26
Subject: [gmx-users] CT3 terminal
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org

 Hi, I use pdb2gmx command to convert a pdb file to a .gro and .top 
 file(using CHARMM forcefield). For the C terminus, I use the CT3 option which 
 is NCH3. When I use editconf to get a pdbfile from the .gro file generated, 
 the C=0 and the NCH3  seem to clash in space in pymol.

It looks like Par has borrowed the mechanism for generating two carboxylate 
oxygens on a C atom (one each cis and trans wrt the third generating atom) for 
generating one amide nitrogen, and the code doesn't check which of cis and 
trans is already occupied by the carboxyl oxygen. Please file a Bugzilla so 
that this gets fixed.

A real solution requires some coding, but you can get a crude work-around by 
replacing

1  8   NT   C  CA  N in 
share/top/charmm27.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb with
1  1   NT   C  CA  O

See chapter 5 for details.

This NT will be too close to carboxyl C, and EM will be needed to fix things.

Mark

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[gmx-users] Total Energy of the system is positive?

2010-10-25 Thread teklebrh

Dear Gromacs users,

I have simulated a system for 10ns and found out that the Total Energy  
of the system is positive and even the Epot of the system is positive.  
Is the data then reliable. Before I run the simulation i just check  
the energy min step and it was in fact negative.


What does this mean? and There is no flactuations in temp and pressure.

In solvent one it was negative and in solvent 2 it is negative. The  
same polymer but in diffrent solution. One solution give me positive  
TE and the other not.


any explanation and also is my system normal.


Best,

Rob




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[gmx-users] g_rmsf = average over # of time frames ???

2010-10-25 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi

From source code = gmx_rmsf.c

g_rmsf computes the root mean square fluctuation (RMSF, i.e. standard ,

deviation) of atomic positions ,


if (devfn) {

  /* Calculate RMS Deviation */

  for(i=0;(iisize);i++) {

aid = index[i];

for(d=0;(dDIM);d++) {

  rmsd_x[i][d] += sqr(x[aid][d]-xref[aid][d]);

}

  }

}

count += 1.0;


rmsf[i] = (rmsd_x[i][XX]+rmsd_x[i][YY]+rmsd_x[i][ZZ])/count;



Therefore, g_rmsf is the average of structure deviation over the time
frames.


However, I issued the commands  ( C-alpha is selected )

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 0 -e 100 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o RMSF-abc-0th-100th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 100 -e 200 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-100th-200th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 200 -e 300 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-200th-300th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 300 -e 400 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-300th-400th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 400 -e 500 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-400th-500th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 500 -e 600 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-500th-600th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 600 -e 700 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-600th-700th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 700 -e 800 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-700th-800th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 800 -e 900 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-800th-900th.xvg

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 900 -e 1000 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o
RMSF-abc-900th-1000th.xvg



Also, (  C-alpha is selected )

g_rmsf -f abc.xtc -b 0 -e 1000 -s abc-crystal.tpr -o RMSF-abc-0th-1000th.xvg




Then I ploted,

RMSF-abc-0th-100th.xvg

RMSF-abc-100th-200th.xvg

RMSF-abc-200th-300th.xvg

RMSF-abc-300th-400th.xvg

RMSF-abc-400th-500th.xvg

RMSF-abc-500th-600th.xvg

RMSF-abc-600th-700th.xvg

RMSF-abc-700th-800th.xvg

RMSF-abc-800th-900th.xvg

RMSF-abc-900th-1000th.xvg



Also, I ploted

RMSF-abc-0th-1000th.xvg




The PLOT RMSF-abc-0th-1000th.xvg has all RMSF-Values much higher than those
from RMSF-abc-0th-100th.xvg / RMSF-abc-100th-200th.xvg
/ RMSF-abc-200th-300th.xvg / ..   / RMSF-abc-900th-1000th.xvg...



It does not make sense... I supposed.

Did I misunderstand something ?




THank you

Lin
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[gmx-users] Re: CT3 terminal

2010-10-25 Thread Pär Bjelkmar
Hello,

 I use pdb2gmx command to convert a pdb file to a .gro and .top file(using
 CHARMM forcefield). For the C terminus, I use the CT3 option which is NCH3.
 When I use editconf to get a pdbfile from the .gro file generated, the C=0
 and the NCH3  seem to clash in space in pymol.
 
 Is there a way of correcting this?

this sounds fishy, might be an error in the formation of the CT3. Have to look 
into that. What GROMACS version are you running?

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