Re: [gmx-users] Free energy

2010-12-30 Thread Floris Buelens
The biotin-streptavidin interaction is on the order of -75 kJ/mol, so a binding 
free energy of -300 kJ/mol (dissociation constant of 10^-52 M) means something 
is fundamentally wrong - start by taking a hard look at your protocol, as 
convergence problems wouldn't account for that kind of deviation.




From: mohsen ramezanpour ramezanpour.moh...@gmail.com
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Subject: [gmx-users] Free energy

Dear All
I estimated protein-ligand free energy about -300 kj

Is it logical?I think it is wrong.what do you think?
what is the range of correct value for a typical protein-ligand?
protein=660 residue
ligand=25 atom
water=4670
Na=118
Cl=120

thanks in advance




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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error:Chain identifier

2010-12-30 Thread ahmet yıldırım
Dear Justin,

Firstly, Thanks for your help. You said You're going from the end of chain
B to the beginning of chain A, then back to B later on.  Also realize that
whatever ABSG or BSG is. How do you understand it? Where can I find
such an important theoretical information?

Thanks in advance

29 Aralık 2010 20:07 tarihinde Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu yazdı:



 ahmet yıldırım wrote:

 OK. if I do what sort change in pdb file, there is no need to create .rtp
 file. It seems difficult to create the .rtp file.


 That depends on whether you need this residue, hence all of my previous
 questions.  If there is some functional significance to this residue and you
 need it for a simulation, then you'll either need to deal with the .rtp
 file, which actually is not terribly difficult, it just involves a little
 bit of reading and studying existing examples.  Otherwise, if the molecule
 is non-covalently bound to the protein, follow the tutorial I linked before,
 and pay attention to the hint I gave you before about using PRODRG, which I
 will reiterate more explicitly: the output topology from PRODRG will require
 manual modification and validation.

 http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/PRODRG#Tips

 -Justin

  Thanks for your help

 29 Aralık 2010 19:49 tarihinde Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu yazdı:




ahmet yıldırım wrote:

You said You do not have to make changes in pdb file.


When did I say that?


Then How will I create .rtp file.


That depends entirely upon what that residue is.  Is it a
constituent residue of the protein, such that its backbone is
incorporated in the protein structure? Is it connected via a
sidechain?  Or is it a ligand?  Any or all of the following might
 apply:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/.rtp_File

 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/specbond.dat
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials#General (Drug-enzyme
complex, although beware the use of PRODRG)

And, of course, the manual, which describes the contents of the .rtp
file more thoroughly.

-Justin

29 Aralık 2010 19:32 tarihinde Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu yazdı:




   ahmet yıldırım wrote:

   Dear Justin,

   Thanks for your reply. Where is the error?

   Pdb file:

   ATOM  1  N   ALA A   4
   ATOM  2  CA  ALA A   4
   
   ATOM   2688  N   ALA B   4
   ATOM   2689  CA  ALA B   4
   
   ATOM   5449  OXT GLN B 361
   TER5450  GLN B 361


   Right here.  You're going from the end of chain B to the
beginning
   of chain A, then back to B later on.  Also realize that whatever
   ABSG or BSG is, it won't be recognized by pdb2gmx unless
you've
   built a proper .rtp entry for it.

   -Justin

   HETATM 5451  OAAABSG A   1
   HETATM 5452  OABABSG A   1
   
   HETATM 5474  OAAABSG B   2
   HETATM 5475  OABABSG B   2
   
   HETATM 5492  O   HOH A   2
   HETATM 5493  O   HOH A 362
   HETATM 5494  O   HOH A 363
   
   HETATM 5744  O   HOH B 362
   HETATM 5745  O   HOH B 363

   29 Aralık 2010 19:12 tarihinde Justin A. Lemkul
jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
   mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu

   mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu yazdı:





  ahmet yıldırım wrote:

  Dear Mark,

  The chain identifier have continuous. In sequence
 does
   not show
  any problem.



  Then you're not looking at the right contents; pdb2gmx
wouldn't
  complain otherwise.  Usually HETATM entries like HOH
(water) are
  after all protein chains, so you might have chains A,
B, C,
   etc for
  protein followed by A, B, C, etc for water.  Have a
more thorough
  look through the .pdb file.

  -Justin


  29 Aralık 2010 15:10 tarihinde Mark Abraham
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Re: [gmx-users] Desktop Freezes While Using mdrun-gpu

2010-12-30 Thread Szilárd Páll
Hi Solomon,

Just stumbled upon your mail and I thought you could still use a
answer to your question.

First of all, as you've probably read on the Gromacs-GPU page, a) you
need a high-performance GPU to achieve good performance (in comparison
to the CPU) -- that's the reason for the strict compatibility list and
the warning about overriding this.

Ideally, the Gromacs-GPU MD code should be able to run on every
compute-capability-wise compatible GPU. However, it does not really
make sense to use mobile or other lower-end GPUs. Moreover, I have
seen freezes and extreme slowdowns when running on such hardware,
especially if the graphics card is also used for display.

Regarding your problem, I don't have an instant solution, but as I
said, except for trying it out you won't gain much with the 330M chip.
What OS are you using? Have you tried with the latest drivers and CUDA
library? If you are using Linux, try to stop the X server and start
the simulation in console mode.

Cheers,
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Szilárd



On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Solomon Berman smber...@bu.edu wrote:
 Hello friends,
 I'm writing today to see if anyone could offer further insight/commentary
 than the current available documentation and comments from the program
 itself concerning the following problem.
 I am currently using mdrun-gpu, v 4.5.3, utilizing my GPU, an NVIDIA GeForce
 GT 330M.  When I run the program, my desktop freezes, though I am able to
 move my cursor about.  I can hear the fan growing louder and the computer
 heating up, as it always does when I use the CPU mdrun.
 Browsing the available documentation, I recognize that my particular GPU is
 not listed as one of the tested.  However, from reading further, and from
 the error codes generated by mdrun-gpu, I am suspect that it is possible to
 use a GPU not listed in the manual, so long as the other requirements (such
 as the use of the OpenMM library) are met.
 Could anyone who is using the GPU version perhaps offer some insight into
 what is occurring and any potential fixes that may be successful?  I would
 be most appreciative?  Also, if I haven't provided enough information, I'm
 more than happy to answer any questions quickly and succinctly to do so!
 Many thanks for any help anyone can provide!
 Best,
 Solomon Berman
 Department of Chemistry
 Boston University
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Re: Antw: [gmx-users] NaN error using mdrun-gpu

2010-12-30 Thread Szilárd Páll
Hi,

I've never seen/had my hands on the Tesla T10 so I didn't know that's
the name it reports. I'll fix this for the next release. Rest assured
that on this hardware Gromacs-GPU should run just fine.

On the other hand, your driver version is very strange: CUDA Driver
Version = 4243455, while it should be 3.2. Are you sure your CUDA
setup is not messed up? Do other programs run well?

Cheers,
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2010/12/15 Bongkeun Kim b...@chem.ucsb.edu:
 Hello,

 This is the output from deviceQuery command:
 ./deviceQuery Starting...

  CUDA Device Query (Runtime API) version (CUDART static linking)

 There are 4 devices supporting CUDA

 Device 0: Tesla T10 Processor
  CUDA Driver Version:                           3.20
  CUDA Runtime Version:                          3.20
  CUDA Capability Major revision number:         1
  CUDA Capability Minor revision number:         3
  Total amount of global memory:                 4294770688 bytes
  Number of multiprocessors:                     30
  Number of cores:                               240
  Total amount of constant memory:               65536 bytes
  Total amount of shared memory per block:       16384 bytes
  Total number of registers available per block: 16384
  Warp size:                                     32
  Maximum number of threads per block:           512
  Maximum sizes of each dimension of a block:    512 x 512 x 64
  Maximum sizes of each dimension of a grid:     65535 x 65535 x 1
  Maximum memory pitch:                          2147483647 bytes
  Texture alignment:                             256 bytes
  Clock rate:                                    1.44 GHz
  Concurrent copy and execution:                 Yes
  Run time limit on kernels:                     No
  Integrated:                                    No
  Support host page-locked memory mapping:       Yes
  Compute mode:                                  Default (multiple host
 threads can use this device simultaneously)

 Device 1: Tesla T10 Processor
  CUDA Driver Version:                           3.20
  CUDA Runtime Version:                          3.20
  CUDA Capability Major revision number:         1
  CUDA Capability Minor revision number:         3
  Total amount of global memory:                 4294770688 bytes
  Number of multiprocessors:                     30
  Number of cores:                               240
  Total amount of constant memory:               65536 bytes
  Total amount of shared memory per block:       16384 bytes
  Total number of registers available per block: 16384
  Warp size:                                     32
  Maximum number of threads per block:           512
  Maximum sizes of each dimension of a block:    512 x 512 x 64
  Maximum sizes of each dimension of a grid:     65535 x 65535 x 1
  Maximum memory pitch:                          2147483647 bytes
  Texture alignment:                             256 bytes
  Clock rate:                                    1.44 GHz
  Concurrent copy and execution:                 Yes
  Run time limit on kernels:                     No
  Integrated:                                    No
  Support host page-locked memory mapping:       Yes
  Compute mode:                                  Default (multiple host
 threads can use this device simultaneously)

 Device 2: Tesla T10 Processor
  CUDA Driver Version:                           3.20
  CUDA Runtime Version:                          3.20
  CUDA Capability Major revision number:         1
  CUDA Capability Minor revision number:         3
  Total amount of global memory:                 4294770688 bytes
  Number of multiprocessors:                     30
  Number of cores:                               240
  Total amount of constant memory:               65536 bytes
  Total amount of shared memory per block:       16384 bytes
  Total number of registers available per block: 16384
  Warp size:                                     32
  Maximum number of threads per block:           512
  Maximum sizes of each dimension of a block:    512 x 512 x 64
  Maximum sizes of each dimension of a grid:     65535 x 65535 x 1
  Maximum memory pitch:                          2147483647 bytes
  Texture alignment:                             256 bytes
  Clock rate:                                    1.44 GHz
  Concurrent copy and execution:                 Yes
  Run time limit on kernels:                     No
  Integrated:                                    No
  Support host page-locked memory mapping:       Yes
  Compute mode:                                  Default (multiple host
 threads can use this device simultaneously)

 Device 3: Tesla T10 Processor
  CUDA Driver Version:                           3.20
  CUDA Runtime Version:                          3.20
  CUDA Capability Major revision number:         1
  CUDA Capability Minor revision number:         3
  Total amount of global memory:                 4294770688 bytes
  Number of multiprocessors:             

[gmx-users] Reordering of water molecules with Na+ ions coordinates in xtc file

2010-12-30 Thread leila karami
Dear gromacs users

My simulation system contains protein, dna, water molecules and Na+
ions respectively.

I want to reorder water molecules with Na+ ions in final xtc file as

at first

1-1867   complex (protein and dna)
1868 - 24085  SOL (water molecules)
24086 - 24099Na+ (ions)

after reordering

1-1867   complex (protein and dna)
1868 -1881 Na+ (ions)
1882 - 24099  SOL (water molecules)

How to do that?

I need to this reordering to obtain amber trajectory file (mdcrd) by VMD.

any help and suggestion will highly appreciated.

-- 


Leila Karami
Ph.D. student of Physical Chemistry
K.N. Toosi University of Technology
Theoretical Physical Chemistry Group
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[gmx-users] Reordering of water molecules with Na+ ions coordinates in xtc file

2010-12-30 Thread chris . neale

Dear Leila:

Perhaps I took the long way around, but I am not aware of any such  
tool. You can make custom modifications to things like trjconv as  
follows.


!!! Please note: I didn't test this except to see that it compiles.  
You should run some analyses before and after switching the order to  
check that the file hasn't been corrupted.


This is done with gromacs 4.0.7.

cd src/tools
cp gmx_trjconv.c ../../exec/share/gromacs/template/my_tool.c

### Add the following text to the bottom of the my_tool.c file:

int
main(int argc,char *argv[])
{
  return gmx_trjconv(argc,argv);
}


### Now go to line 1246 of the file and replace this:

  for(i=0; inout; i++) {
copy_rvec(fr.x[index[i]],frout.x[i]);
if (bVels  fr.bV) {
  copy_rvec(fr.v[index[i]],frout.v[i]);
}
if (bForce  fr.bF) {
  copy_rvec(fr.f[index[i]],frout.f[i]);
}
  }

### with this:

  for(i=0; i=1866; i++) {
copy_rvec(fr.x[index[i]],frout.x[i]);
  }
  for(i=24085; i=24098; i++) {
copy_rvec(fr.x[index[i]],frout.x[i-22218]);
  }
  for(i=1867; i=24084; i++) {
copy_rvec(fr.x[index[i]],frout.x[i+14]);
  }

  for(i=0; inout; i++) {
if (bVels  fr.bV) {
  copy_rvec(fr.v[index[i]],frout.v[i]);
}
if (bForce  fr.bF) {
  copy_rvec(fr.f[index[i]],frout.f[i]);
}
  }
}

### That's not going to modify the forces and velocities, but I  
assume that this will be ok for you. If you need them, you can add  
that part by analogy.


### Now create the makefile:

sed s/template/my_tool/g Makefile.x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu   
Makefile.my_tool


### now compile it:

make -f Makefile.my_tool

-- original message --

Dear gromacs users

My simulation system contains protein, dna, water molecules and Na+
ions respectively.

I want to reorder water molecules with Na+ ions in final xtc file as

at first

1-1867   complex (protein and dna)
1868 - 24085  SOL (water molecules)
24086 - 24099Na+ (ions)

after reordering

1-1867   complex (protein and dna)
1868 -1881 Na+ (ions)
1882 - 24099  SOL (water molecules)

How to do that?

I need to this reordering to obtain amber trajectory file (mdcrd) by VMD.

any help and suggestion will highly appreciated.


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Re: [gmx-users] Add gromacs forcefield w/ virtual site

2010-12-30 Thread Marcelo Silva

Thank you Chris for your answer:

1) The molecule has no net charge because the virtual site in the center 
of mass is a point charge twice the charge in the O atom.
2) Until now I've created 5 files but I don't know if I am doing the 
right thing:


   *   forcefield.itp

#define _FF_OXY

[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rule gen-pairsfudgeLJ fudgeQQ
12no
1.01.0


#include ffnonbonded.itp
#include ffbonded.itp

   *ffbonded.itp

[ bondtypes ]
; ij   func
  OO 5  (I've used function 5 because the forcefield has a 
fixed length, is it right?) ;


   *ffnonbonded.itp

[ atomtypes ]
; name  at.nummass  charge   ptype  
sigma  epsilon
 O8   15.99940-0.123   A 
3.01300e-014.0780822e-01
   COM0   0.00 0.246   V 
0.0e+000.000e+00


   *   atomtypes.atp

O 15.99940  ; Oxygen Atom
COM   0.0   ; Virtual site (COM charge)

   *   residues.rtp

; Oxygen
[ OXY ]
 [ atoms ]
 O O  -0.1231
 COM   COM0.2461
 [ bonds ]
OO

3) Is it necessary more or less files? And in which file do I 
specificate de virtual site?
4) The virtual site in the COM is [ virtual_sites2 ] with a = 0.5 or [ 
virtual_sitesn ]?


Thank you again for your time.
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[gmx-users] Major code reorganization in git coming up

2010-12-30 Thread Erik Lindahl
Hi!

We figured we'd celebrate the upcoming new year with some major changes in the 
git development branch, consisting primarily of C++ support and a more modular 
organization of files.
This is a gradual process, so this mail is a bit of a warning-message that the 
master/development branch might have some issues with compilers/build 
environments the next couple of weeks.

If you occasionally use a git build to run production simulation, just use the 
release-4-5-patches branch instead, and everything should be fine.

However, If you are working on your own code based on the git master branch, it 
might be a good idea to either switch to the release-4-5-patches branch, or 
create your own branch that you no longer sync with master as frequently. In 
the latter case you might have to go through some pain to port your code back 
to the new file organization later (sorry about that).

The upside of all this is that the file organization will gradually get easier 
to understand, and the code itself should also get much more modular and 
readable (which we hope will lead to a faster release schedule and more 
features :-)



Happy new year!


Erik
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[gmx-users] Major code reorganization in git coming up

2010-12-30 Thread Erik Lindahl
Hi!

We figured we'd celebrate the upcoming new year with some major changes in the 
git development branch, consisting primarily of C++ support and a more modular 
organization of files.
This is a gradual process, so this mail is a bit of a warning-message that the 
master/development branch might have some issues with compilers/build 
environments the next couple of weeks.

If you occasionally use a git build to run production simulation, just use the 
release-4-5-patches branch instead, and everything should be fine.

However, If you are working on your own code based on the git master branch, it 
might be a good idea to either switch to the release-4-5-patches branch, or 
create your own branch that you no longer sync with master as frequently. In 
the latter case you might have to go through some pain to port your code back 
to the new file organization later (sorry about that).

The upside of all this is that the file organization will gradually get easier 
to understand, and the code itself should also get much more modular and 
readable (which we hope will lead to a faster release schedule and more 
features :-)



Happy new year!


Erik



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[gmx-users] Add gromacs forcefield w/ virtual site

2010-12-30 Thread chris . neale
Sorry Marcelo, that sounds like a job for an author ;) If nobody else  
chimes in, then I suggest that you do some testing and come back to  
the list with specific problems. As an analogy, you might look at how  
the virtual site is handled in tip4p in the absence of settle.


Chris.

-- original message --

Thank you Chris for your answer:

1) The molecule has no net charge because the virtual site in the center
of mass is a point charge twice the charge in the O atom.
2) Until now I've created 5 files but I don't know if I am doing the
right thing:

*   forcefield.itp

#define _FF_OXY

[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rule gen-pairsfudgeLJ fudgeQQ
12no
1.01.0

#include ffnonbonded.itp
#include ffbonded.itp

*ffbonded.itp

[ bondtypes ]
; ij   func
   OO 5  (I've used function 5 because the forcefield has a
fixed length, is it right?) ;

*ffnonbonded.itp

[ atomtypes ]
; name  at.nummass  charge   ptype
sigma  epsilon
  O8   15.99940-0.123   A
3.01300e-014.0780822e-01
COM0   0.00 0.246   V
0.0e+000.000e+00

*   atomtypes.atp

O 15.99940  ; Oxygen Atom
COM   0.0   ; Virtual site (COM charge)

*   residues.rtp

; Oxygen
[ OXY ]
  [ atoms ]
  O O  -0.1231
  COM   COM0.2461
  [ bonds ]
 OO

3) Is it necessary more or less files? And in which file do I
specificate de virtual site?
4) The virtual site in the COM is [ virtual_sites2 ] with a = 0.5 or [
virtual_sitesn ]?



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[gmx-users] g_tune_pme big standard deviation in perf.out output

2010-12-30 Thread WU Yanbin
Dear GMXers,

I'm simulating a SPC/E water box with the size of 4nm by 4nm by 4nm. The
command g_tune_pme was used to find the optimal PME node numbers, Coulomb
cutoff radius and grid spacing size.

The following command is used:
g_tune_pme -np 24 -steps 5000 -resetstep 500 ...
rcoul=1.5nm, rvdw=1.5nm, fourierspacing=0.12

The simulation is done with no error. Below is the output:
---
Line tpr PME nodes  Gcycles Av. Std.dev.   ns/dayPME/fDD
grid
   0   0   12  2813.762  187.1159.6040.361
4   3   1
   1   0   11  2969.826  251.2109.1120.510
13   1   1
   2   0   10  2373.469  154.005   11.3850.445
2   7   1
   3   09  2129.519   58.132   12.6650.601
5   3   1
   4   08  2411.653  265.233   11.2480.570
4   4   1
   5   07  2062.770  514.023   13.4900.616
17   1   1
   6   06  1539.237   89.189   17.5470.748
6   3   1
   7   00  1633.318  113.037   16.548  -
6   4   1
   8   0   -1(  4) 1330.146   32.362   20.2761.050
4   5   1
---

The optimal -npme is 4.

It seems to me that the Std. dev is too huge.
Can anyone tell me the meaning of Gcycles Av. and Std. dev and their
relations to the accuracy of ns/day?

Another question:
I tried
g_tune_pme -np 24 -steps 1000 -resetstep 100 ... (the default value of
g_tune_pme)
rcoul=1.5nm, rvdw=1.5nm, fourierspacing=0.12

The optimal -npme is 6, different from -npme=4 as obtained with big
-nsteps.
Should I increase -nsteps even more to get better estimate, or what else
parameters should I try?

Do let me know if the questions are not made clear.
Thank you.

Best,
Yanbin
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Re: [gmx-users] Add gromacs forcefield w/ virtual site

2010-12-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 31/12/2010 5:03 AM, Marcelo Silva wrote:

Thank you Chris for your answer:

1) The molecule has no net charge because the virtual site in the 
center of mass is a point charge twice the charge in the O atom.
2) Until now I've created 5 files but I don't know if I am doing the 
right thing:


*  forcefield.itp

#define _FF_OXY

[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rule gen-pairsfudgeLJ fudgeQQ
12no
1.01.0


#include ffnonbonded.itp
#include ffbonded.itp

*   ffbonded.itp

[ bondtypes ]
; ij   func
  OO 5  (I've used function 5 because the forcefield has a 
fixed length, is it right?) ;


If the bond length is to be fixed, then you want constraint type 1. Bond 
type 5 has a different application.




*   ffnonbonded.itp

[ atomtypes ]
; name  at.nummass  charge   ptype  
sigma  epsilon
 O8   15.99940-0.123   A 
3.01300e-014.0780822e-01
   COM0   0.00 0.246   V 
0.0e+000.000e+00


*  atomtypes.atp

O 15.99940  ; Oxygen Atom
COM   0.0   ; Virtual site (COM charge)

*  residues.rtp

; Oxygen
[ OXY ]
 [ atoms ]
 O O  -0.1231
 COM   COM0.2461
 [ bonds ]
OO

3) Is it necessary more or less files? And in which file do I 
specificate de virtual site?


Virtual site directives are listed in Table 5.6, so they need to end up 
in the [moleculetype], which means they need to be in the .rtp entry. 
Some of the forcefield files probably have examples of this.


4) The virtual site in the COM is [ virtual_sites2 ] with a = 0.5 or [ 
virtual_sitesn ]?


I guess either would work, but the former is simpler.

Mark
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