[gmx-users] Fw: ionic liquids

2011-04-30 Thread Prema Awati
 








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Subject: ionic liquids



Sir,

I am trying to create an ionic-liquid system 
comprising of 1-butyl-3-methyl-imidazolium(bmim) as cation and BF4-(bf4) as 
anion. I have generated the system using following command: genbox_d -cp 
bmim.gro -ci bf4.gro -nmol 125 -try 200 -o .pdb , well it created system of 
total 250 molecules 125 each but after equilibration the density is not 
matching with the reported.I tried simulated annealing procedure still no 
much difference. I wonder if there is any other way to generate an ionic liquid 
system or how the people do it tp reproduce the results , I urge for any quick 
suggestion.



thanx,

student.





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Re: [gmx-users] Fw: ionic liquids

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/30/2011 5:20 PM, Prema Awati wrote:



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Subject: ionic liquids

Sir,
I am trying to create an ionic-liquid system comprising of 
1-butyl-3-methyl-imidazolium(bmim) as cation and BF4-(bf4) as anion. I 
have generated the system using following command: genbox_d -cp 
bmim.gro -ci bf4.gro -nmol 125 -try 200 -o .pdb , well it created 
system of total 250 molecules 125 each but after equilibration the 
density is not matching with the reported.I tried simulated 
annealing procedure still no much difference. I wonder if there is 
any other way to generate an ionic liquid system or how the people do 
it tp reproduce the results , I urge for any quick suggestion.


thanx,
student.



You can try to adapt the procedure here 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Non-Water_Solvation


Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] sulfate ion

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/30/2011 3:54 PM, saly jackson wrote:

Hi all

I want to know about the ability of GROMACS to simulate sulfate in(SO4
(2-)),

Do we can have the ion in our simulation using GROMACS?


You asked this question on Wednesday, and got an answer. Googling 
sulfate gromacs finds that answer. If you learn to make better use of 
the free information resources at your finger tips, then you will 
probably find that people will be more inclined to help you later on 
when the answer to that problem is not a simple web search away. Our 
time is valuable to us, too :-)


Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 4.5.4 MPI

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/30/2011 8:50 AM, Juliette N. wrote:

Dear experts,

I have successfully installed a normal gromacs 4.5.4 installation on 
one of my machines.


I have read the Installation Instructions that As of GROMACS 4.5, 
threading is supported, so for e.g multi-core workstations, MPI is no 
longer required.


Does this mean that there is no longer the need to do a second 
configuration with --enable-mpi?


No, it means that --enable-mpi is not necessary for use of GROMACS in 
parallel on multi-core workstations. Thus, many situations will require it.



Upon trying to configure using this command:

./configure --enable-mpi --program-suffix=_mpi

There is an error as below:

checking size of off_t... configure: error: in `/root/gromacs-4.5.4':
configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (off_t)
See `config.log' for more details.


That error is found repeatedly in the archives. Your MPI compiler is not 
available and/or configured correctly. See the details in config.log.


Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] LINCS error- 4.5.4 installation?

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/30/2011 9:06 AM, Juliette N. wrote:

Dear experts,

I just tried the command  mpirun -np 4 mdrun on 4.5.4 but after a few 
steps I get LINCS error:


step 400, will finish Sat Apr 30 05:20:45 2011
Step 750, time 1.5 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 10.116560, max 72.359520 (between atoms 314 and 315)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
 atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
301302   61.00.1090   0.1841  0.1090


I tried to run using the same input files on 4.0.7 and simulation 
worked fine. I mean the LINCS is not because of flawed topology or 
instability issue. I am wondering this is happening because of MPI or 
installation ..Please help!


Normally, a successful MPI installation would have produced an mdrun_mpi 
executable, not mdrun. 15 minutes before this email you didn't manage to 
configure successfully with --enable-mpi. So probably you are not 
running in parallel. Look at the number of .log files produced, and 
their first line.


Regarding the LINCS error, your simulation was probably marginally 
stable, and got lucky with the integration in 4.0.7 and unlucky in 4.5. 
That's life - you should consider the management strategies here 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up


Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Tcoupl default setting

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/30/2011 4:47 AM, Charlie Forde wrote:

Thank you Mark for your response,

In carrying out the test you recommended I realised that I had set the 
integrator to sd, in such a case the tcoupl parameter is ignored. This 
explains my well behave temperature in the absence of setting a tcoupl 
option. When I wrote the input file originally (months ago) I must 
have known what I was doing but then we live, we learn, we forget.


Sure. Next time, if you post your .mdp file, someone will likely spot 
that for you...


Mark



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[gmx-users] Fatal error: Attempting to read a checkpoint file of version 12 with code of version 4

2011-04-30 Thread Faezeh Kargar
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Re: [gmx-users] rigid tetrahedral molecule

2011-04-30 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2011-04-30 00.38, Mark Abraham wrote:

On 4/30/2011 5:05 AM, Sanku M wrote:

Hi David,
Actually, I had tried to use vsites to make this molecule rigid. I
read the manual section 4.7 as well. But, unfortunately, for a 5-site
tetrahedral geometry I was not able to figure out the right vsite type
I should use. So, I was wondering whether you can provide some input
on the details of how to use virtual sites for a tetrahedral molecule.
It would have been helpful.


David suggested using vsites as well as the multiple-constraints
approach, because the molecule needs to have its degrees of freedom
artificially increased to compensate for the artificial decrease.

A vsite could only work if there was some way to take four atoms for the
force calculation, project them into one (say COM), do the MD update
step on the COM, and project the update back out. I've no idea whether
that's sound or can be implemented, however.
It is quite involved. You need to keep the total mass constant and the 
moments of inertia.


For instance for methane one could construct 4 mass-particles M on the 
C-H bonds which are connected by 6 constraints. Then you can construct 
the virtual positions of C and H based on those four masses. A real 
methane has 5x3 degrees of freedom. The above construction has 4 masses 
* 3 dof - 6 constraints = 6 degrees of freedom left. This would 
therefore yield a correct rigid model.




Mark


Sanku


*From:* David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se
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*Sent:* Fri, April 29, 2011 11:46:01 AM
*Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] rigid tetrahedral molecule

On 2011-04-29 17.55, gyorgy.han...@fc.up.pt
mailto:gyorgy.han...@fc.up.pt wrote:

 Hi Sanku,

 I've read about your problem just now, I don't know if it's already
 solved but I had the same problem some weeks ago and I also had a lot of
 troubles. But, finally I managed to solve it so maybe my experiences can
 be helpful for you:

 I think you should use SHAKE instead of LINCS. The manual says somewhere
 that LINCS cannot be used when constraining triangles (i.e. angles) but
 SHAKE works fine. On the other hand, if you use SHAKE you must switch
 from domain decomposition to particle decomposition (if you run your
 simulations parallel) just by using -pd when you type mdrun ('domain
 decomposition = no' in the mdp file is not enough).

 Then you must add as many constraints as degrees of freedom you have, so
 9 in your case. In my case it was 15 for the PF6 anion. Maybe it'll work
 with less than 9 but in my case I had to add 15 contraints. What I did
 was the following:
 First I constrained all P-F bonds then I constrained fictious F-F bonds
 that I thought would make the molecule rigid. But it wasn't enough. Then
 I added some more redundant F-F contraints (up to 15 in total) in a bit
 arbitrary way until I found the 'magic combination'.
 Now my simulations run perfectly.

Please note that if your rigid molecule has less than 6 degrees of
freedom your temperature will be incorrect!
You can achieve a solution with the right number of d.o.f. by using
vsites as well. How to do this is left as an exercise for the reader.

 I hope this helps.

 best,
 Gyorgy


 Citando Sanku M msank...@yahoo.com mailto:msank...@yahoo.com:

 Thanks. The molecule was developed as a part of OPLS. The authors
used a
 software called BOSS( developed in Bill Jorgensen's lab) . I guess this
 softwares have way to perform rigid body motion. There are other
 softwares like
 DL-POLY which can perform rigid body MD. So, I guess, in those cases,
 just
 declaring a molecule 'rigid' might be good enough.
 But, gromacs does not explicitly do rigid body MD. That's why I was
 looking for
 a trick .




 
 From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 8:25:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] rigid tetrahedral molecule



 Sanku M wrote:
 Hi,
 I am interested in simulating a anionic molecule BF4(-) ( Boron
 tetrafluoride). In the paper which developed the parameters for this
 molecule,
 it is mentioned that it has been used as 'rigid' molecule i.e the
 molecule only
 has non-bonding interaction but there was no intramolecular motion as
 the
 geometry was fixed.
 I am trying to simulate this molecule in gromacs treating it as
 rigid. But, I
 was looking for best way to 'rigidify' this molecule.

 I was wondering whether using LINCS to constrain all B-F and F-F
 bonds will be
 good enough . Or, Should I use virtual sites ? If I really need to
 use virtual
 site, will it be something like TIP5P water model ?
 Can someone suggest the best wayout ?


 Constraints should do the trick, but probably the best approach is to
 simply
 contact the authors who developed the model and ask how they did it.
 Then you
 know 

Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error: Attempting to read a checkpoint file of version 12 with code of version 4

2011-04-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/30/2011 7:22 PM, Faezeh Kargar wrote:


Dear gmx users,

My code stops running because of  electricity voltage oscillation. it 
happened for several times and each time I restarted running my code. 
but for this time with command


mdrun -s topol.tpr -x 
traj.part0002.part0003.part0004.part0004.part0005.xtc -cpi state.cpt 
-e ener.part0002.part0003.part0004.part0004.part0005.edr -g 
md.part0002.part0003.part0004.part0004.part0005.log 


I used this command before without any error. but now I encountered 
error like this:



Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0.7
Source
code file: checkpoint.c, line: 565

Fatal error:
Attempting
to read a checkpoint file of version 12 with code of version 4

I looked at the file checkpoint.c. at first the version of 
checkpoint file is 4 but I do not know how and why it changes.




The usual reason for this kind of error is that you're using an old 
version of GROMACS to access a file written by a new version. That's not 
a good idea.


Mark



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[gmx-users] Simulations in vacuo - energy increase

2011-04-30 Thread Zoe Hall
Gmx-users,



I am trying to carry out a simulation of lysozyme in vacuo using the OPLS-AA 
forcefield.  After energy minimisation, the protein is run for 10ps with 
position restraints and temperature coupling on. This is followed by the full 
production run of 10ns with temperature and pressure coupling turned off, H 
bonds are constrained using LINCS and a time step of 1fs. For vacuum 
conditions, the periodic boundary conditions are turned off, and no cut-offs 
are used. When I carry out the 10ns simulation the total energy gradually 
increases, as does the temperature from 300 to 500K. I presume this is because 
the temperature coupling is turned off, however that is what I have noted from 
the literature that others do for their vacuum simulations. Can anyone shed any 
light on this? Following is my method.
integrator   = md
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.001
nsteps   = 1000
nstxout  = 2
nstvout  = 2
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 10
nstenergy= 10
nstxtcout= 2
energygrps   = Protein
nstcomm = 5
nstlist  = 0
ns-type  = simple
pbc  = no
rlist= 0
coulombtype  = Cut-off
rcoulomb = 0
epsilon_r= 2
vdw-type = Cut-off
rvdw =0
Tcoupl   = no
tc-grps  = Protein
tau_t= 0.1
ref_t= 300
Pcoupl   = no
Pcoupltype   = Isotropic
tau_p= 1
compressibility  = 4.5e-5
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = yes ;
gen_temp =  300.0
gen_seed =  -1
constraints  = hbonds
constraint-algorithm = LINCS
lincs_order  = 4

Thanks,

Zoe

Zoe Hall
Department of Chemistry
Oxford University

zoe.h...@chem.ox.ac.uk


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Re: [gmx-users] Simulations in vacuo - energy increase

2011-04-30 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2011-04-30 14.17, Zoe Hall wrote:

Gmx-users,

I am trying to carry out a simulation of lysozyme in vacuo using the
OPLS-AA forcefield. After energy minimisation, the protein is run for
10ps with position restraints and temperature coupling on. This is
followed by the full production run of 10ns with temperature and
pressure coupling turned off, H bonds are constrained using LINCS and a
time step of 1fs. For vacuum conditions, the periodic boundary
conditions are turned off, and no cut-offs are used. When I carry out
the 10ns simulation the total energy gradually increases, as does the
temperature from 300 to 500K. I presume this is because the temperature
coupling is turned off, however that is what I have noted from the
literature that others do for their vacuum simulations. Can anyone shed
any light on this? Following is my method.

integrator = md

tinit = 0

dt = 0.001

nsteps = 1000

nstxout = 2

nstvout = 2

nstfout = 0

nstlog = 10

nstenergy = 10

nstxtcout = 2

energygrps = Protein

nstcomm = 5

nstlist = 0

ns-type = simple

pbc = no

rlist = 0

coulombtype = Cut-off

rcoulomb = 0

epsilon_r = 2

vdw-type = Cut-off

rvdw =0

Tcoupl = no

tc-grps = Protein

tau_t = 0.1

ref_t = 300

Pcoupl = no

Pcoupltype = Isotropic

tau_p = 1

compressibility = 4.5e-5

ref_p = 1.0

gen_vel = yes ;

gen_temp = 300.0

gen_seed = -1

constraints = hbonds

constraint-algorithm = LINCS

lincs_order = 4

Thanks,

Zoe

Zoe Hall

Department of Chemistry

Oxford University

_zoe.h...@chem.ox.ac.uk_

Are you sure h-bonds are being constrained, because otherwise the time 
step is too large? (maybe you need to write h-bonds). You may need to 
increase the constraint accuracy as well. We did all our vacuum calcs in 
double precision as well IIRC.


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[gmx-users] Alkanes, Alkens in Amber forcefield

2011-04-30 Thread Maria Hamilton
Hi all

I need .itp and .mdp files  of some Alkanes such as Hepane, Decane and
Heptene, Decene in Amber forcefield.

Would you please help me?

Best Regards

Thanks alot

Maria
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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error: Attempting to read a checkpoint file of version 12 with code of version 4

2011-04-30 Thread Faezeh Kargar

htmldiv



 On
4/30/2011 7:22 PM, Faezeh Kargar wrote:

 Dear
gmx users,

 My code stops running because of 
electricity voltage oscillation. it
 happened for several
times and each time I restarted running my code.
 but for
this time with command

 mdrun -s topol.tpr
-x
 traj.part0002.part0003.part0004.part0004.part0005.xtc
-cpi state.cpt
 -e
ener.part0002.part0003.part0004.part0004.part0005.edr -g

md.part0002.part0003.part0004.part0004.part0005.log 

 I used this command before without any error. but now I
encountered
 error like this:


 Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0.7
 Source

code file: checkpoint.c, line: 565

 Fatal
error:
 Attempting
 to read a checkpoint file of
version 12 with code of version 4

 I looked at
the file checkpoint.c. at first the version of

checkpoint file is 4 but I do not know how and why it changes.

 
 The usual reason for this kind of error is
that you're using an old
 version of GROMACS to access a file
written by a new version. That's not
 a good idea.
 
 Mark

Thank you for your reply. I just use version
4.0.7 of GROMACS and all of files are written by this version. as I said
before, I could restart running of my codes with this command without any
problem.
Thank you
 
 
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[gmx-users] Re: ionic liquids

2011-04-30 Thread Vitaly Chaban


  I am trying to create an ionic-liquid system comprising of
 1-butyl-3-methyl-imidazolium(bmim) as cation and BF4-(bf4) as anion.  I have
 generated the system using following command:
  genbox_d -cp bmim.gro -ci  bf4.gro  -nmol 125 -try 200 -o .pdb
 , well it created system of total 250 molecules 125 each but after
 equilibration the density is not matching with the reported.I tried
  simulated annealing procedure still no much difference. I wonder if there
 is any other way to generate an ionic liquid system or how the people do it
 tp reproduce the results , I urge for any quick suggestion.



You should report concrete values of density, topology and parameters, if
you want help.


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Re: [gmx-users] Alkanes, Alkens in Amber forcefield

2011-04-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Maria Hamilton wrote:

Hi all

I need .itp and .mdp files  of some Alkanes such as Hepane, Decane and 
Heptene, Decene in Amber forcefield.


Would you please help me?



Such species should be trivial to generate using antechamber (with GAFF, 
perhaps).  There are various scripts to convert from Amber to Gromacs format. 
You may also be interested in acpype (http://code.google.com/p/acpype/).


-Justin


Best Regards

Thanks alot

Maria



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: ionic liquids

2011-04-30 Thread Baofu Qiao


If you are sure about the force field (the one from Lopes et al.?) you 
are using, build a dilute system, and then run long enough simulations 
using NTP ensemble. possibly using simulation annealing.


? 2011-4-30 16:44, Vitaly Chaban ??:



 I am trying to create an ionic-liquid system comprising of
1-butyl-3-methyl-imidazolium(bmim) as cation and BF4-(bf4) as
anion.  I have generated the system using following command:  
 genbox_d -cp bmim.gro -ci

 bf4.gro  -nmol 125 -try 200 -o .pdb , well it created system of
total 250 molecules 125 each but after equilibration the density
is not matching with the reported.I tried  simulated annealing
procedure still no much difference. I wonder if there is any other
way to generate an ionic liquid system or how the people do it tp
reproduce the results , I urge for any quick suggestion.



You should report concrete values of density, topology and parameters, 
if you want help.


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Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban, Department of Chemistry
University of Rochester, Rochester, New York 14627-0216


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[gmx-users] lyzosyme tutorial

2011-04-30 Thread delara aghaie


Dear Justin
  I have started lyzosyme tutorial. when using the command pdb2gmx I get the 
following error.
Please guide me to solve it
thanks
Regards
D. Aghaie
 
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.0.99-dev-20100315
Source code file: /apps/gromacs/build/gromacs-4.5-beta3/src/kernel/pdb2top.c, 
line: 147
Fatal error:
No force fields found (files with name 'forcefield.itp' in subdirectories 
ending on '.ff')
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[gmx-users] How to use Inflategro with different lipid types

2011-04-30 Thread Ioannis Beis

Dear gromacs users,

I am a new user of gromacs. I am currently trying to build a large  
bilayer with 3 different lipid species (11 DPPC : 7 POPC : 7 POPE) and  
no protein embedded in it. I have used single lipids from  
pre-equilibrated bilayers available at Mr. Tieleman's website. The  
distance of center of mass of neighboring lipids is 1 nm, so there are  
small areas with overlaps. I was hoping that I would be able to  
inflate my membrane and have the lipids totally free of overlaps using  
Inflategro. Subsequently, I was planning to use the shrinking steps to  
bring the membrane into physiological size. Is this strategy valid in  
the first place? If not, I kindly ask for an alternative.


In case this method can be used, despite To identify the lipid  
species their actual residue name must be given which is mentioned in  
the methodology, the form INFLATEGRO bilayer.gro scaling_factor  
lipid_residue_name cutoff inflated_bilayer.gro gridsize  
areaperlipid.dat (protein) only allows the use of one lipid type. How  
is it possible to run perl with all lipid types at once? I have tried  
performing inflations using one lipid type at a time and they work.  
[It worths mentioning that the coordinates of the rest two  
(uninflated) lipid types slightly change without equilibration (I  
assume this has to do with Inflategro trying to force the molecules  
avoid overlaps)]. But I can't treat my membrane as a system that way.  
I have read the publication introducing the methodology, but it didn't  
help me solve my problem.


I would be grateful if someone could help, also taking into account that I am
inexperienced.

Kindest regards,
Yiannis

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