Re: [gmx-users] error: Only triclinic boxes...

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 3/06/2011 3:06 AM, Elisabeth wrote:

Hello all,

I am getting the error below at the very beginning of the simulation 
(both serial and parallel). I am sure I did not encounter this problem 
before with the same input files. This has just happened now. I really 
have no clue why this is happening. could you please help me? Thank 
you all in advance.


You broke the simulation. Do not use parinello-rahman for equilibration. 
It's only good close to equilibrium, and can oscillate wildly under the 
wrong conditions. Generate velocities on a structure whose density is 
appropriate for the ensemble you're working with, equilibrate, then 
compress in stages, very gently. I've lost track of the number of times 
I've suggested people not just randomly apply some large pressure on 
some random configuration and expect it to work.


Mark




Warning: Only triclinic boxes with the first vector parallel to the 
x-axis and the second vector in the xy-plane are supported.

 Box (3x3):
Box[0]={ nan,  0.0e+00,  0.0e+00}
Box[1]={ nan,  nan,  nan}
Box[2]={ nan,  nan,  nan}
 Can not fix pbc.



;Run control
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.002
nsteps  =  100 ;5000
nstcomm =  100

;Output control
nstenergy   =  100
nstxout =  100
nstvout =  0
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  1000
nstxtcout  =  1000

;Neighbor searching
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid

;Electrostatics/VdW
coulombtype =  Shift
vdw-type=  Shift
rcoulomb-switch =  0
rvdw-switch =  0.9 ;0

;Cut-offs
rlist   =  1.25
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0

;Temperature coupling
Tcoupl  =  v-rescale
tc-grps =  System
tau_t   =  0.1
ref_t   =  300

;Pressure coupling
Pcoupl  =  Parrinello-Rahman
Pcoupltype  =  isotropic
tau_p   =  1
compressibility =  3.5e-5
ref_p   =  10

;Velocity generation
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  300.0
gen_seed=  173529

;Bonds
constraints = all-bonds
constraint-algorithm = lincs




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Re: [gmx-users] option -pbc in trjconv

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 3/06/2011 3:42 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,

 I wanted to ensure that the option of -pbc in trjconv is only for 
visualization,
and if I do all possible calculations with the original .xtc file 
there wont be any

problem.


-pbc is for any purpose you can think of. Some analyses of periodic 
simulations only make sense for some representations of the unit cell. 
Some don't. Read about the tool, think carefully, then act :-)


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Re: [gmx-users] option -pbc in trjconv

2011-06-03 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear Sir,

  I used dodecahedron for the simulation. My specific doubt was whether
do we need to modify the .xtc file using some options of -pbc like nojump,
mol, before going for analysis or we can directly go for analysis using the
raw .xtc file.

Thanking you
With regards
M. Kavyashree



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 On 3/06/2011 3:42 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear users,

 I wanted to ensure that the option of -pbc in trjconv is only for
 visualization,
 and if I do all possible calculations with the original .xtc file there
 wont be any
 problem.


 -pbc is for any purpose you can think of. Some analyses of periodic
 simulations only make sense for some representations of the unit cell. Some
 don't. Read about the tool, think carefully, then act :-)

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Re: [gmx-users] option -pbc in trjconv

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 3/06/2011 6:48 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear Sir,

  I used dodecahedron for the simulation. My specific doubt was whether
do we need to modify the .xtc file using some options of -pbc like 
nojump,
mol, before going for analysis or we can directly go for analysis 
using the

raw .xtc file.


Maybe. Only a general answer can be given to a general question.

Mark


Thanking you
With regards
M. Kavyashree



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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] option -pbc in trjconv
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On 3/06/2011 3:42 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,

I wanted to ensure that the option of -pbc in trjconv is
only for visualization,
and if I do all possible calculations with the original .xtc
file there wont be any
problem.


-pbc is for any purpose you can think of. Some analyses of
periodic simulations only make sense for some representations of
the unit cell. Some don't. Read about the tool, think carefully,
then act :-)

Mark
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[gmx-users] strain

2011-06-03 Thread Emine Deniz Tekin
Hi Gromacs users,

We would like to apply strain to the system. Is this possible to do with
gromacs and if it is how?

Thank you in advance,

Deniz
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Re: [gmx-users] Solvating dodecahedron

2011-06-03 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Justin,

 Note that the pseudo-sphere representation is for visualization
 purposes only; the triclinic cell should be the input for any simulation.

This not true. It doesn't matter which representation you use as
input. Molecules may be broken over PBC, but the topological
information is taken from the .tpr file anyway. Gromacs may spit out
broken molecules, and will swallow them just as well.

Groetjes,

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Re: [gmx-users] Solvating dodecahedron

2011-06-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

Hi Justin,


Note that the pseudo-sphere representation is for visualization
purposes only; the triclinic cell should be the input for any simulation.


This not true. It doesn't matter which representation you use as
input. Molecules may be broken over PBC, but the topological
information is taken from the .tpr file anyway. Gromacs may spit out
broken molecules, and will swallow them just as well.



Good to know, and that certainly makes sense.  I guess I was thinking of an old 
post that warned never to do this; perhaps there was some problem with PBC 
handling in an older version, and thus I made a habit to never change the input 
coordinates.


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[gmx-users] Combining part files after using -noappend

2011-06-03 Thread Zack Scholl
Hi all,

I just discovered nohup for running my simulation without hangup.  For
some reason using nohup wouldn't except the checksum on my previous
md.log file so I just added the -noappend option to create new files.

I'm curious, is there a way to combine the part files that emerge from
using the -noappend command?  I.e. I would like to combine my original
traj.xtc with the traj.part0001.xtc and similar for all the files
(ener.edr, pullf.xvg, pullx.xvg and traj.trr).

Thank so much for your time,

Sincerely,

Zack
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Re: [gmx-users] Combining part files after using -noappend

2011-06-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Zack Scholl wrote:

Hi all,

I just discovered nohup for running my simulation without hangup.  For
some reason using nohup wouldn't except the checksum on my previous
md.log file so I just added the -noappend option to create new files.

I'm curious, is there a way to combine the part files that emerge from
using the -noappend command?  I.e. I would like to combine my original
traj.xtc with the traj.part0001.xtc and similar for all the files
(ener.edr, pullf.xvg, pullx.xvg and traj.trr).



For .xtc and .trr files, use trjcat.  For .edr files, use eneconv.  For anything 
else, like your .xvg files, use Unix commands like cat.


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Re: [gmx-users] Is there still interest in rigid-body simulation?

2011-06-03 Thread Adam Herbst
Hi Justin,
I added this feature as a new issue under the Gromacs project on Redmine.
 Recently I also added a Git fork with a very rudimentary version of rigid
body code.  Let me know if there is anything specific you think I should
work on.  Thanks a lot,

Adam

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 It seems like lots of people are in favor of this idea.  Since Gromacs is
 undergoing some MAJOR changes to its underlying code, features, etc in the
 coming months it would be prudent to:

 1. Post this proposal as a project/enhancement request on
 redmine.gromacs.org (and then volunteer to work on it)
 2. Post the idea, framework, time needed, etc to the gmx-developers list so
 you're reaching a target audience for such tasks
 3. Coordinate your efforts with the core developers who are currently
 developing a pretty detailed roadmap of future development (much of this can
 be done on the redmine site)

 All of these will improve the chances of making useful code contributions
 that can eventually get incorporated into a release, or at least a git
 branch somewhere.

 -Justin

 Semen Esilevsky wrote:

 This would be very good! I'm working on somewhat similar thing, but I plan
 to use external library for computing rigid body forces from atom forces. If
 gromacs will be able to compute rigid body forces itself it will be great!

 Regards,
 Semen

 
 *From:* gyorgy.han...@fc.up.pt gyorgy.han...@fc.up.pt
 *To:* gmx-users@gromacs.org
 *Sent:* Thu, April 7, 2011 6:50:37 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Is there still interest in rigid-body
 simulation?


 Hello,

 I think it would be very good to have this feature in gromacs. In fact
 I've recently had some problems with constraining some species in my
 simulations. Finally I've sorted out with shake but your solution seems to
 me less problematic.

 Thanks in advance.
 Best,

 Gyorgy

 Quoting ms deviceran...@gmail.com mailto:deviceran...@gmail.com:

   On 27/03/11 23:02, Adam Herbst wrote:
   Hi all,
   I have seen a few posts on gmx-users indicating a desire to treat
   certain atom groups as rigid bodies in MD simulations.  I just started
   implementing this, and so far I have it working for translational
 forces
   (not rotation, though this should be simple to add), even when the
 group
   is split over multiple processors.  At the moment I have the rigid
 body
   groups specified as freeze groups in the mdp file, but there could be
 a
   separate option.  Would anyone else find this useful?  The problem is
   that: (a) I am modifying GROMACS 4.5.1, so I am some months out of
 date,
   and (b) my code is probably not to spec.  If it is worthwhile, I can
   restart from 4.5.4 (the code modifications are quite small) and make
 an
   effort to conform to coding standard.  Best,
  
   Adam Herbst
  
  
   I would love that!!
  
   --Massimo Sandal, Ph.D.

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Re: [gmx-users] gmx4.5.4 installation help

2011-06-03 Thread Joshua L. Phillips
Add --with-pic when configuring fftw.

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On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 15:16 +0800, Jianguo Li wrote:
 The error message already shows some hints. Try recompile FFTW with
 -fPIC.
 Jianguo 
 
 
 
 
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 From: Chandan Choudhury iitd...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2011 15:03:03
 Subject: [gmx-users] gmx4.5.4 installation help
 
 Hello gmx-users,
 
 I am trying to install gmx-4.5.4 on a HPC Linux cluster x86_64. 
 1. I installed fftw 3.2.2
  ./configure --prefix /soft/sudip/abc/execs/fftw/
 --enable-single --enable-threads
 2. Installing Gromacs : CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS were written in bashrc
 file
 a) ./configure --prefix=/soft/sudip/abc/execs/gromacs/
execute successfully without any complain.
 b) make
  /usr/bin/ld: 
 /soft/sudip/abc/execs/fftw/lib/libfftw3f.a(apiplan.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 
 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; 
 recompile with -fPIC
  /soft/sudip/abc/execs/fftw/lib/libfftw3f.a: could not
 read symbols: Bad value
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  make[3]: *** [libmd.la] Error 1
  make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/soft/sudip/abc/untar/gromacs-4.5.4/src/mdlib'
  make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/soft/sudip/abc/untar/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
  make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
  make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/soft/sudip/abc/untar/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
  make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 
   shows problem. 
 
 Couldnot understand the origin of problem. Kndly let me know if some
 information is missing.
 
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[gmx-users] FFT plan mismatch with mdrun_mpi

2011-06-03 Thread Christian Blouin
Hello, I'll first apologize in case that this is a common issue with
an available solution, but I have a problem running mdrun_mpi on a
rock cluster and there
is no amount of searching that I can do to find information on this
error (manual, online docs, general google search). Could someone
point me in the right direction for documentations?

The error is the following:

Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: gmx_fft_fftw2.c, line: 494

Fatal error:
FFT plan mismatch - bad plan or direction.
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors

I'm trying to run a simple mdrun as per one of the tutorial online on
50 CPUs. I can provide more details, but I'm hoping that there is
already an answer to this question somewhere.

Regards,

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Re: [gmx-users] FFT plan mismatch with mdrun_mpi

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/06/2011 3:42 AM, Christian Blouin wrote:

Hello, I'll first apologize in case that this is a common issue with
an available solution, but I have a problem running mdrun_mpi on a
rock cluster and there
is no amount of searching that I can do to find information on this
error (manual, online docs, general google search). Could someone
point me in the right direction for documentations?

The error is the following:

Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: gmx_fft_fftw2.c, line: 494

Fatal error:
FFT plan mismatch - bad plan or direction.
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors


I've never seen this one before.


I'm trying to run a simple mdrun as per one of the tutorial online on
50 CPUs. I can provide more details, but I'm hoping that there is
already an answer to this question somewhere.


I suspect most tutorials are based on systems that are too small to want 
to use this many processors. Parallelism is not a magic bullet that lets 
one run any calculation on any combination of processors. I'd suggest 
using fewer and hoping that solves the problem. Otherwise, trying 
linking with an up-to-date install of FFTW3.


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[gmx-users] Re: my apologize

2011-06-03 Thread Vitaly Chaban
Eli:

It was a joke.

I want to clarify your relation to Moeed since he asked the SAME
question about the compression of the SAME polymer starting from the
spring of 2010, but never followed all our advices. Now, you start to
ask nearly the SAME questions about absolutely the SAME system. So, I
eventually wonder what the hell is going on.

Please, explore the archive of the mailing list to see all the remarks
devoted to your system. There is no sense to write the SAME things
once more. In the last case, your problem seems to be connected with a
bad input file (conf.gro). So, examine its content attentively and let
us know if this helped.


-
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban, Department of Chemistry
University of Rochester, Rochester, New York 14627-0216


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Elisabeth katesed...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Justin,

 I thank you cordially for all the help. To tell you the truth I did not mean
 to complain. I just meant that the hints from gmx experts have not resolved
 the problem yet. I am sure this must have been a misunderstanding. I am well
 aware that you (or other experts) are helping on your own volition and there
 is NO place to complain. I did not know I am violating the rules otherwise I
 could simply wait for a few hours and send message from my own account. (Now
 I see that it did not worth it)

 At this point in time I can only say that I am awfully sorry for the mistake
 I made. I do not know if you have removed my name form the list or not...I
 know I deserve any punishment.
 but apart from whatever punishment you are considering, please kindly do not
 reply this message to the list (I am feeling guilty and publishing these
 messages to the list makes me feel awkward).

 Sorry to have sent you ( and Dr. Chaban) this message on your personal
 account.

 Best regards,

 On 2 June 2011 22:40, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 Elisabeth wrote:

 Hello Dr. Vitaly Chaban,

 Thank you. I asked a friend in our Dept. for help who is working on
 different aspects of the more or less similar system. The message below was
 sent on behalf of me. I apologize if I should not have done this. We thought
 maybe it does not matter under which name messages are sent on the gmx list
 and the idea of using mailing list is to share knowledge regardless of
 names. I hope this has not offended you and other users.

 I am also asking Justin to let me know if I have violated mailing list
 rules. I make sure this will not happen again.


 http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists#Mailing_List_Etiquette

 Having others send information around haphazardly to different individuals
 and from colleagues or aliases just slows down your overall progress, since
 we don't know who's getting (or providing) what information, or if the
 discussions are even connected.  Keep everything on the list and reply
 directly to questions posed to you with as much detail as you can.

 It's also not a good idea for anyone to complain that no one on the list
 could help much.  I had been trying to extract the necessary diagnostic
 information from you, but perhaps not at the pace you'd like.  Problems
 aren't solved instantly, especially via email by people who have only a very
 vague idea of what you're doing.

 -Justin

 Thank you,
 Best regards,


 On 2 June 2011 21:03, Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com
 mailto:vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hey Eli:

    What is the correlation observed between you and Moeed?

    I suppose you eventually compressed your system so much, that it
    became very distorted. Check your GRO file. I believe it is not
    healthy inside.

    Regards.

    Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban, Department of Chemistry
    University of Rochester, Rochester, New York 14627-0216




    On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Moeed lecie...@googlemail.com
    mailto:lecie...@googlemail.com wrote:
      Dear Dr.Chaban,
     
      I am so sorry to send you this message. Thank you for your
    comments. I have
      encountered a problem that no one on the list could help much. I
    am very
      hopeful you can assist me especially because I have noticed you
    respond to
      messages dealing with compression or NPT runs. I am really
    confused since I
      have been using the same input files (gro. top and mdp) and have
 been
      collecting without any problem. Since yesterday I am getting a
    weird message
      that is printed continuously until I kill mdrun.
     
     
      arning: Only triclinic boxes with the first vector parallel to
    the x-axis
      and the second vector in the xy-plane are supported.
               Box (3x3):
                  Box[    0]={         nan,          nan,          nan}
                  Box[    1]={         nan,          nan,          nan}
                  Box[    2]={         nan,          nan,          nan}
     
      I have only polyethylene chains in my system. I really appreciate
    if you
      could help me or could kindly take a very brief look at my
    

[gmx-users] Why does the -append option exist?

2011-06-03 Thread Dimitar Pachov
At first, I thought the -append option of the mdrun command was great.
However, I don't think it is anymore and have actually  started questioning
myself why it exists at the first place, and second, why has it become the
default option in the newest versions?

It is useless unless you run your simulations in a 100% safe from any
unexpected problems (hardware, restarts, etc) mode, which is never the case.
It is beyond me how such an option can become the default and how a
statement like this:

By default the output will be appending to the existing output files. The
checkpoint file contains checksums of all output files, such that *you will
never loose data when some output files are modified, corrupt or removed.*

can be claimed without testing ALL of the scenarios that can lead to
problems, that is, lost data.

If one uses that option and the run is restarted and is again restarted
before reaching the point of attempting to write a file, then things are
lost, and most importantly, the most important piece of data, that being the
trajectory file, could be completely lost! I don't know the code behind the
checkpointing  appending, but I can see how easy one can overwrite 100ns
trajectories, for example, and obtain the same trajectories of size 
0.

Using the checkpoint capability  appending make sense when many restarts
are expected, but unfortunately it is exactly then when these options
completely fail! As a new user of Gromacs, I must say I am disappointed, and
would like to obtain an explanation of why the usage of these options is
clearly stated to be safe when it is not, and why the append option is the
default, and why at least a single warning has not been posted anywhere in
the docs  manuals?

Thanks,
Dimitar
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Re: [gmx-users] Why does the -append option exist?

2011-06-03 Thread Amit Choubey
Well sometimes i run out of walltime when doing long simulations and append
helps me not to do any file management after restarting simulations from the
previous checkpoint.

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dimitar Pachov dpac...@brandeis.edu wrote:


 At first, I thought the -append option of the mdrun command was great.
 However, I don't think it is anymore and have actually  started questioning
 myself why it exists at the first place, and second, why has it become the
 default option in the newest versions?

 It is useless unless you run your simulations in a 100% safe from any
 unexpected problems (hardware, restarts, etc) mode, which is never the case.
 It is beyond me how such an option can become the default and how a
 statement like this:

 By default the output will be appending to the existing output files. The
 checkpoint file contains checksums of all output files, such that *you
 will never loose data when some output files are modified, corrupt or
 removed.*

 can be claimed without testing ALL of the scenarios that can lead to
 problems, that is, lost data.

 If one uses that option and the run is restarted and is again restarted
 before reaching the point of attempting to write a file, then things are
 lost, and most importantly, the most important piece of data, that being the
 trajectory file, could be completely lost! I don't know the code behind the
 checkpointing  appending, but I can see how easy one can overwrite 100ns
 trajectories, for example, and obtain the same trajectories of size 
 0.



Two restarts within a time frame where trajectory file is updated doesnt
make sense. I really dont understand how you can loose trajectory files.


 Using the checkpoint capability  appending make sense when many restarts
 are expected, but unfortunately it is exactly then when these options
 completely fail!


How ?


 As a new user of Gromacs, I must say I am disappointed, and would like to
 obtain an explanation of why the usage of these options is clearly stated to
 be safe when it is not, and why the append option is the default, and why at
 least a single warning has not been posted anywhere in the docs  manuals?


Use -noappend


 Thanks,
 Dimitar




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[gmx-users] g_rotacf

2011-06-03 Thread simon sham
Hi,
I have tried to use g_rotacf to get the rotational autocorrelation plot for a 
n-h vector, and I have two questions:
1. My MD run is 20ns, but the rotacf.xvg shows only 10ns. why?
2. The plot is bottom out at 500 ps and then go back up. What does it mean 
physically?

Thanks for your insight.

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Re: [gmx-users] Why does the -append option exist?

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/06/2011 8:26 AM, Dimitar Pachov wrote:


At first, I thought the -append option of the mdrun command was great. 
However, I don't think it is anymore and have actually  started 
questioning myself why it exists at the first place, and second, why 
has it become the default option in the newest versions?


It exists because it used to be a pain to manage your simulation file 
numbering.


It is useless unless you run your simulations in a 100% safe from any 
unexpected problems (hardware, restarts, etc) mode, which is never the 
case. It is beyond me how such an option can become the default and 
how a statement like this:


By default the output will be appending to the existing output files. 
The checkpoint file contains checksums of all output files, such that 
*you will never loose data when some output files are modified, 
corrupt or removed.*


can be claimed without testing ALL of the scenarios that can lead to 
problems, that is, lost data.


The checkpoint file records the position of the output file pointers at 
the time of the checkpoint, along with an MD5 checksum. Upon restarting 
with -append, mdrun seeks to that file pointer position, verifies the 
checksum and issues a fatal error if this is not possible. So if 
checkpoint and other files are not altered or removed after a crash, 
then the method seems pretty safe to me.


The above text mentions  you are safe even if you remove files - that's 
an overstatement. However, I can't see that removing a non-checkpoint 
file could lead to loss of useful data from other non-checkpoint files.


If one uses that option and the run is restarted and is again 
restarted before reaching the point of attempting to write a file, 
then things are lost,


If this is true, then it wants fixing, and fast, and will get it :-) 
However, it would be surprising for such a problem to exist and not have 
been reported up to now. This feature has been in the code for a year 
now, and while some minor issues have been fixed since the 4.5 release, 
it would surprise me greatly if your claim was true.


You're saying the equivalent of the steps below can occur:
1. Simulation wanders along normally and writes a checkpoint at step 1003
2. Random crash happens at step 1106
3. An -append restart from the old .tpr and the recent .cpt file will 
restart from step 1003

4. Random crash happens at step 1059
5. Now a restart doesn't restart from step 1003, but some other step

and most importantly, the most important piece of data, that being the 
trajectory file, could be completely lost! I don't know the code 
behind the checkpointing  appending, but I can see how easy one can 
overwrite 100ns trajectories, for example, and obtain the same 
trajectories of size  0.


I don't see how easy that is, without a concrete example, where user 
error is not possible.
Using the checkpoint capability  appending make sense when many 
restarts are expected, but unfortunately it is exactly then when these 
options completely fail! As a new user of Gromacs, I must say I am 
disappointed, and would like to obtain an explanation of why the usage 
of these options is clearly stated to be safe when it is not, and why 
the append option is the default, and why at least a single warning 
has not been posted anywhere in the docs  manuals?


I can understand and sympathize with your frustration if you've 
experienced the loss of a simulation. Do be careful when suggesting that 
others' actions are blame-worthy, however. The developers all act in 
good faith on a largely volunteer basis. Errors in coding do happen, and 
they do get attention as developers' time permits. However, developers' 
time rarely permits addressing feature X doesn't work, why not? in a 
productive way. Solving bugs can be hard, but will be easier (and solved 
faster!) if the user who thinks a problem exists follows good procedure. 
See http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html 
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/%7Esgtatham/bugs.html


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] g_rotacf

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/06/2011 9:02 AM, simon sham wrote:

Hi,
I have tried to use g_rotacf to get the rotational autocorrelation 
plot for a n-h vector, and I have two questions:

1. My MD run is 20ns, but the rotacf.xvg shows only 10ns. why?



This can be normal for computed correlation functions. See chapter 5. 
(If you'd provided your command line, and information about how often 
you'd saved data, then I wouldn't be wasting our time with guesses...)


Mark

2. The plot is bottom out at 500 ps and then go back up. What does it 
mean physically?


Thanks for your insight.

Simon



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Re: [gmx-users] g_rotacf

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/06/2011 11:27 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:

On 4/06/2011 9:02 AM, simon sham wrote:

Hi,
I have tried to use g_rotacf to get the rotational autocorrelation 
plot for a n-h vector, and I have two questions:

1. My MD run is 20ns, but the rotacf.xvg shows only 10ns. why?



This can be normal for computed correlation functions. See chapter 5.


Sorry, manual section 8.5.

Mark

(If you'd provided your command line, and information about how often 
you'd saved data, then I wouldn't be wasting our time with guesses...)


Mark

2. The plot is bottom out at 500 ps and then go back up. What does it 
mean physically?


Thanks for your insight.

Simon





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[gmx-users] g_rdf problem

2011-06-03 Thread Sanku M
Hi,
  I am using gromacs_4.0.7 to calculate the Scattering Intensity as a function 
of scattering vectors(q) using g_rdf -sq command .
But, I found that there is no way that one can increase/decrease the grid 
spacing  for structure factor calculation. I tried using -bin option , but that 
does not change anything as that only works for changing bin-width for Radial 
distribution functioncalculation. 
If some one can point me out any way out of changing the grid spacing 
for structure factor, that will be very helpful.

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[gmx-users] Re: Indexing problem when using genconf

2011-06-03 Thread Ryan S Davis (rsdavis1)

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


 Ryan S Davis (rsdavis1) wrote:
 I wanted to copy a bilayer into a grid of 2x2x1 replicas. I used
 genconf and everything seemed to work fine exept that annoying feature
 that the command does not reorder the molecule types, so I end up with
 a .top file looking like this...

   1 #include martini_v2.1.itp
   2 #include martini_v2.0_lipids.itp
   3 #include martini_v2.0_cholesterol.itp
   4   5 [ system ]
   6 CHOL
   7   8 [ molecules ]
   9 DPPC 832
  10 CHOL 208
  11 W 8320
  12 DPPC 832
  13 CHOL 208
  14 W 8320
  15 DPPC 832
  16 CHOL 208
  17 W 8320
  18 DPPC 832
  19 CHOL 208
  20 W 8320


 Anyway, I run the simulation...no errors. I make an ndx file using
 make_ndx...indices look fine despite the repetitive order. HOWEVER,
 when I try to run commands such as
 trjconv with the index file as input, it reads all the way up to the
 first block of Waters and quits with the error

 
 Program trjconv, VERSION 4.0.7
 Source code file: gmx_trjconv.c, line: 1037

 Fatal error:
 Index[29952] 46593 is larger than the number of atoms in the
 trajectory file (46592)
 

 which I didnt expect, but makes perfect sense knowing that I specified
 in the .mdp file to not output water to the xtc file...

 
  xtc-grps = dppc chol
 

 Normally this isnt an issue because waters are typically last in the
 topology. But, I still need access to this data. How can I force the
 post-processing commands to read past the absent water blocks?

 The only options I see at the moments is to
 1) scrap genconf, make new topology somehow, and rerun
 2) reset to output water, and rerun
 3) limit my analysis to the very sparse output from the .trr file


 I see two viable options, one of which is to use your option 1 via a few
 standard Unix tools to create a proper coordinate file, i.e.:

 grep DPPC conf.gro  dppc
 grep CHOL conf.gro  chol
 grep W conf.gro  w

 cat dppc chol w  system.gro

 Add a title, number of atoms, and box vectors at the end, and you're
 done.  Then sum up the entries in [molecules] and the system should run
 just fine.

 The second option is to just create a dummy system that has only DPPC
 and CHOL molecules.  Take your input coordinate file, strip out the
 waters, and renumber with genconf.  Remove all W blocks from the .top
 and create a new .tpr file. This should now match the number of atoms in
 the trajectory and the order in which they appear.


...or just do this all in one step with tpbconv.  I always manage to quickly
think of the hardest way to do things :)

-Justin


Thanks, got it working with tpbconv.
It would be nice to have an option on genconf to reorder the molecule types in 
the output...
Not that I am willing to make that modification myself, ha :)
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Re: [gmx-users] gmx4.5.4 installation help

2011-06-03 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Thanks everyone. It helped me in installation.

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NCL, Pune
INDIA


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Joshua L. Phillips jphilli...@ucmerced.edu
 wrote:

 Add --with-pic when configuring fftw.

 -- Josh

 On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 15:16 +0800, Jianguo Li wrote:
  The error message already shows some hints. Try recompile FFTW with
  -fPIC.
  Jianguo
 
 
 
 
  __
  From: Chandan Choudhury iitd...@gmail.com
  To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
  Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2011 15:03:03
  Subject: [gmx-users] gmx4.5.4 installation help
 
  Hello gmx-users,
 
  I am trying to install gmx-4.5.4 on a HPC Linux cluster x86_64.
  1. I installed fftw 3.2.2
   ./configure --prefix /soft/sudip/abc/execs/fftw/
  --enable-single --enable-threads
  2. Installing Gromacs : CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS were written in bashrc
  file
  a) ./configure --prefix=/soft/sudip/abc/execs/gromacs/
 execute successfully without any complain.
  b) make
   /usr/bin/ld:
 /soft/sudip/abc/execs/fftw/lib/libfftw3f.a(apiplan.o): relocation
 R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared
 object; recompile with -fPIC
   /soft/sudip/abc/execs/fftw/lib/libfftw3f.a: could not
  read symbols: Bad value
   collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
   make[3]: *** [libmd.la] Error 1
   make[3]: Leaving directory
  `/soft/sudip/abc/untar/gromacs-4.5.4/src/mdlib'
   make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
   make[2]: Leaving directory
  `/soft/sudip/abc/untar/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
   make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
   make[1]: Leaving directory
  `/soft/sudip/abc/untar/gromacs-4.5.4/src'
   make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 
shows problem.
 
  Couldnot understand the origin of problem. Kndly let me know if some
  information is missing.
 
  Chandan
 
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