[gmx-users] Mu-X

2011-07-03 Thread balaji nagarajan

Dear Users ! 

I have done the g_energy using the *.edr file ! 

In that it prints all the energy terms , i can understand most of the terms ! 

i dont know what does Mu-X , Mu-Y , Mu-Z represents and its importance  !


I would like to know the detail of the force fields included in the gromacs !

is there any separate web for this ! 


thanks in advance ! 


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[gmx-users] reg electrostatic potential

2011-07-03 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear justin 
Thank you for your previous reply.
   I would like to calculate absolute and cumulative  value of 
electrostatic potential at specific distance from surfaces of particular group 
of my protein but g_potential calculates only across box
also i  would like to calculate vibrational entropy which tool is useful
further i want to calculate mechanical stiffness of protein .is there is any 
tool in gromacs to find out stiffness 
I am expecting your reply
Thanks in advance
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[gmx-users] g_sas calculation

2011-07-03 Thread ahmet yıldırım
Dear users,

I want to compute SASA between protein and ligand.
*1.)*
protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein+ligand)
select a group: 2 (ligand)
is this correct?

*2.)*
or
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_protein.xvg
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein)
select a group: 2 (protein)
I have protein SASA.

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o ligand_ligand.xvg
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (ligand)
select a group: 2 (ligand)
I have ligand SASA.

protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)
select a group: 2 (protein_ligand)
I have protein_ligand SASA.

(SASA between protein and ligand)=(protein)+(ligand)-(protein_ligand)

I am confused. which of choices is correct?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [gmx-users] Mu-X

2011-07-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



balaji nagarajan wrote:

Dear Users !

I have done the g_energy using the *.edr file !

In that it prints all the energy terms , i can understand most of the 
terms !


i dont know what does Mu-X , Mu-Y , Mu-Z represents and its importance  !



Dipole information in the x, y, and z dimensions.



I would like to know the detail of the force fields included in the 
gromacs !


is there any separate web for this !



Nothing comprehensive.  You're better off reading the primary citations for 
whatever force field(s) you're interested in.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas calculation

2011-07-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ahmet yıldırım wrote:

Dear users,

I want to compute SASA between protein and ligand.
*1.)*
protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein+ligand)
select a group: 2 (ligand)
is this correct?

*2.)*
or
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_protein.xvg
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein)
select a group: 2 (protein)
I have protein SASA.

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o ligand_ligand.xvg
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (ligand)
select a group: 2 (ligand)
I have ligand SASA.

protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)
select a group: 2 (protein_ligand)
I have protein_ligand SASA.

(SASA between protein and ligand)=(protein)+(ligand)-(protein_ligand)

I am confused. which of choices is correct?



Neither.  Your equation is right, but your method of calculating each of the 
quantities is not.  The group for the surface calculation should always be all 
non-solvent atoms (per the instructions in g_sas -h).  The output group can then 
be whatever you like, a subset of that surface.  So you will need three 
calculations (sort of like option #2), but in each case the calculation group 
should always be the protein-ligand merged group.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] reg electrostatic potential

2011-07-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



vidhya sankar wrote:

Dear justin
Thank you for your previous reply.
   I would like to calculate absolute and cumulative  value 
of electrostatic potential at specific distance from surfaces of 
particular group of my protein but g_potential calculates only across box


Can't you do this by analyzing each axis separately?  If you center the protein 
in the box, it should give you some sort of useful information.  Otherwise maybe 
try the -spherical option.  I don't know if it will do what you want, but it 
sounds close.



also i  would like to calculate vibrational entropy which tool is useful


Maybe g_anaeig (which also means running g_covar first).

further i want to calculate mechanical stiffness of protein .is there is 
any tool in gromacs to find out stiffness


Not likely.  You can determine flexibility of residues with g_rmsf, but not 
mechanical stiffness.  Without some applied deformation, I don't know how you'd 
quantify this.


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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas calculation

2011-07-03 Thread ahmet yıldırım
Dear Justin,

Firstly thanks for your valuable information. Now, is there any error?
Please see the following commands:

protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_protein.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (protein)*
*I have protein SASA.*

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (ligand)
I have ligand SASA.*

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (protein_ligand)
I have protein_ligand SASA.*

*(SASA between protein and ligand)=(protein)+(ligand)-(protein_ligand)*

Thanks

2011/7/3 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu



 ahmet yıldırım wrote:

 Dear users,

 I want to compute SASA between protein and ligand.
 *1.)*
 protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
 g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
 Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
 select a group: 1 (protein+ligand)
 select a group: 2 (ligand)
 is this correct?

 *2.)*
 or
 g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_protein.xvg
 Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
 select a group: 1 (protein)
 select a group: 2 (protein)
 I have protein SASA.

 g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o ligand_ligand.xvg
 Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
 select a group: 1 (ligand)
 select a group: 2 (ligand)
 I have ligand SASA.

 protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
 g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
 Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
 select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)
 select a group: 2 (protein_ligand)
 I have protein_ligand SASA.

 (SASA between protein and ligand)=(protein)+(ligand)-(**protein_ligand)

 I am confused. which of choices is correct?


 Neither.  Your equation is right, but your method of calculating each of
 the quantities is not.  The group for the surface calculation should always
 be all non-solvent atoms (per the instructions in g_sas -h).  The output
 group can then be whatever you like, a subset of that surface.  So you will
 need three calculations (sort of like option #2), but in each case the
 calculation group should always be the protein-ligand merged group.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas calculation

2011-07-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



ahmet yıldırım wrote:

Dear Justin,

Firstly thanks for your valuable information. Now, is there any error?
Please see the following commands:

protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_protein.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (protein)*
*I have protein SASA.*

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (ligand)
I have ligand SASA.*

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_protein_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (protein_ligand)
I have protein_ligand SASA.*

*(SASA between protein and ligand)=(protein)+(ligand)-(protein_ligand)*



I'm sorry, I read the first post wrong.  Your equation will yield an answer of 
zero if you do this.  I was thinking of your problem backwards.  You do indeed 
want to calculate all of these quantities individually, as you proposed in 
method #2 previously.  That way, you can get the interior cavity surface area, 
not the exterior components as I was thinking.


-Justin


Thanks

2011/7/3 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu



ahmet yıldırım wrote:

Dear users,

I want to compute SASA between protein and ligand.
*1.)*
protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n
protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein+ligand)
select a group: 2 (ligand)
is this correct?

*2.)*
or
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_protein.xvg
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein)
select a group: 2 (protein)
I have protein SASA.

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o ligand_ligand.xvg
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (ligand)
select a group: 2 (ligand)
I have ligand SASA.

protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx
g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o protein_ligand.xvg -n
protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)
select a group: 2 (protein_ligand)
I have protein_ligand SASA.

(SASA between protein and
ligand)=(protein)+(ligand)-(__protein_ligand)

I am confused. which of choices is correct?


Neither.  Your equation is right, but your method of calculating
each of the quantities is not.  The group for the surface
calculation should always be all non-solvent atoms (per the
instructions in g_sas -h).  The output group can then be whatever
you like, a subset of that surface.  So you will need three
calculations (sort of like option #2), but in each case the
calculation group should always be the protein-ligand merged group.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_sas calculation

2011-07-03 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



ahmet yıldırım wrote:

Dear Justin,

Firstly thanks for your valuable information. Now, is there any error?
Please see the following commands:

protein and ligand are merged by make_ndx

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_protein.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (protein)*
*I have protein SASA.*

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_ligand.xvg -n protein_ligand.ndx
Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (ligand)
I have ligand SASA.*

g_sas -f run.xtc -s run.tpr -o area_protein_ligand.xvg -n 
protein_ligand.ndx

Select a group for calculation of surface and a group for output
*select a group: 1 (protein_ligand)*
*select a group: 2 (protein_ligand)
I have protein_ligand SASA.*

*(SASA between protein and ligand)=(protein)+(ligand)-(protein_ligand)*



I'm sorry, I read the first post wrong.  Your equation will yield an 
answer of zero if you do this.  I was thinking of your problem 
backwards.  You do indeed want to calculate all of these quantities 
individually, as you proposed in method #2 previously.  That way, you 
can get the interior cavity surface area, not the exterior components as 
I was thinking.




In addition, this gives the buried surface area, which is actually twice the 
interfacial surface area.  Both can be useful to understand (the former for 
analyzing the free energy change of burying these surfaces and the latter for 
the actual level of contact between the protein and ligand).


-Justin

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[gmx-users] On multi-core PCs and gromacs installation

2011-07-03 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
Hi everyone!
 
I will be installing gromacs 4.5.x in another computer but this time with four 
cores. The PC runs in windows and I will be using cygwin. The instructions says:
 
If you want to run in parallel across a network, you need MPI. If you are 
running on a supercomputer you probably already have an optimized MPI version 
installed - consult your documentation or ask your system administrator. See 
below for information about how to make use of MPI.  As of GROMACS 4.5, 
threading is supported, so for e.g multi-core workstations, MPI is no longer 
required
 
 
The last note says that I do not have to install MPI. Do I still need to 
install MPI using cygwin? Or cygwin/windows will do the MPI for me.
 
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Re: [gmx-users] On multi-core PCs and gromacs installation

2011-07-03 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/07/2011 2:54 PM, Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:

Hi everyone!
I will be installing gromacs 4.5.x in another computer but this time 
with four cores. The PC runs in windows and I will be using 
cygwin. The instructions says:
If you want to run in parallel across a network, you need MPI. If you 
are running on a supercomputer you probably already have an optimized 
MPI version installed - consult your documentation or ask your system 
administrator. See below for information about how to make use of MPI. 
/As of GROMACS 4.5, threading is supported, so for e.g multi-core 
workstations, MPI is no longer required/
The last note says that I do not have to install MPI. Do I still need 
to install MPI using cygwin?




Probably not, but I haven't tested threading on Cygwin.


Or cygwin/windows will do the MPI for me.



Nothing will do MPI for you. Threading and MPI are complementary 
approaches to achieving parallelism, and which is better depends on your 
execution environment.


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[gmx-users] final_min_step energy

2011-07-03 Thread balaji nagarajan

Dear Users ! 

I have a problem in taking the inter and intra molecular interaction energy 
from a pdb ,  which is being minimized  by minim.mdp ! 

when i use the 

g_energy -f  *.edr   it gives the list of all possible interaction energy as 
average value , but i want it only for the minimized file 

how one can fetch that from the *.edr file 


thanks in advance 


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