Re: [gmx-users] Strangeness in gro file

2011-09-13 Thread Mark Abraham

On 13/09/2011 3:27 PM, Sweta Iyer wrote:

Hi all,
I am trying to use the g_membed tool to insert my protein into a DMPC membrane.
My protein is a dimer and hence I separated the two monomers by a TER card in 
the original pdb file before pdb2gmx step for gromacs to identify it as teo 
separate entities.. I then merged my protein file with that of the membrane and 
added water and ions to it. Then when I went ahead to make an index file I 
notice that the numbering of residues is not continuous in my gro file, ie, it 
starts from residue 1-29 of a monomer, then again 1-29 of the second monomer, 
1-128 for the DMPC moleculaes and similarly for the SOL and ions as well. As a 
result, I cannot exactly specify residue number for my index file to specify 
the two protein groups as different as the residue numbers overlap. Even when i 
try to do it, i get an error message saying Atom 1 in multiple T-Coupling 
groups  Is there a way to re number them so that there is continuity or is 
there another way around to making the index file? I have not seen this the 
previously when I have made an index file. I am using gmx version 4.5.4 and the 
53a6 forcefield. I am not attaching the gro file here as it is quite lengthy.


Only atom numbering within a [moleculetype] is relative to that atom. 
Index files need atom numbers from the whole system. These are 
constructed from the first [molecules] entry being 1 to n, then the 
second [molecules] entry n+1 to n+n (if that entry is the same 
[moleculetype], etc. The numbers assigned to atoms and residues in the 
coordinate file supplied to grompp are ignored. Only the atom and 
molecule ordering is significant (and must match the .top).


Do a grompp using an .mdp file that does not use any index groups (e.g. 
disable T-coupling), and pass that resulting .tpr to editconf to get a 
coordinate file back out. I expect the atom numbering will now be from 1 
to N where N is the number of atoms in the system. Use that coordinate 
file to work out your index groups (with make_ndx or otherwise). Later, 
you and grompp will be talking the same language. :)


Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] g_dist error

2011-09-13 Thread aiswarya pawar
Mark,

the command line goes like this-

g_dist -f md.xtc -s md.tpr -dist 0.5 -e 500

the index file has group1- a_1322 ( this is just a single atom from a
protein. its in sidechain)
  group2- a_OW ( this is water atoms)

now as per the utility it should give me and output as-

t:1 1322 a 54119 OW 0.389

but am getting something different

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 13/09/2011 3:40 PM, aiswarya pawar wrote:


 Hi Mark,

 The -dist option says- print all the atoms in group 2 that are closer than
 a certain distance to the center of mass of group 1.
 That means it should give me the distance from OW to protein atom.


 If you choose correct groups that are correctly defined with respect to
 your trajectory and use a large enough distance cutoff.



 And when am already specifying only one atom from protein ie say 1322. why
 do i get this kind of output-


 We can't tell. We don't know what your command line is, what's in your
 simulation system, the contents of your index groups, or which groups you've
 selected for which role. Clearly something is not working properly, and our
 time constraints mean that we're going to assume you've done something
 wrong, in the absence of evidence to the contrary.

 Mark



 t: 275  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.341434 (nm)
 t: 275  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.171584 (nm)
 t: 276  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.303328 (nm)
 t: 276  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.325176 (nm)
 t: 276  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.187259 (nm)
 t: 277  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.306008 (nm)
 t: 277  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.326195 (nm)
 t: 277  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.181089 (nm)
 t: 278  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.274507 (nm)
 t: 278  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.292652 (nm)
 t: 279  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.319922 (nm)
 t: 280  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.330082 (nm)
 t: 280  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.330203 (nm)
 t: 281  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.278731 (nm)
 t: 281  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.325434 (nm)
 t: 281  11535 SOL 36533 OW  0.200327 (nm)
 t: 281  17036 SOL 53036 OW  0.343946 (nm)
 t: 282  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.256558 (nm)
 t: 282  11535 SOL 36533 OW  0.327147 (nm)
 t: 283  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.165061 (nm)
 t: 283  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.306578 (nm)
 t: 283  17191 SOL 53501 OW  0.333075 (nm)
 t: 284  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.19427 (nm)
 t: 284  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.321927 (nm)
 t: 284  17191 SOL 53501 OW  0.30832 (nm)




 On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 13/09/2011 2:27 PM, aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Iam -dist option because I need the distance between two groups


  That is not what g_dist -dist does. Please read g_dist -h.


   excluding -dist gives me X,Y,Z output which I don't want.


  And other output which you do, but you have to use -o to get it. Read
 g_dist -h.


   And am not specifying an -o.


  You need to specify -o to achieve your purpose. However, as I said quite
 a while ago, there is no value in measuring the distance between a protein
 phase and a water phase if they are in contact...

 Mark


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 -Original Message-
 From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu jalem...@vt.edu
 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:35:28
 To: aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com; Discussion list 
 for GROMACS usersgmx-users@gromacs.org gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Reply-To: jalem...@vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] g_dist error


 aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

  Even if I specify an atom say 1277 atom number to find distance against the 
 OW atoms. I get the same result of SOL-OW distance. Is it a bug cause even 
 after specifying one atom from a protein why doesn't it give me the result 
 for the SOL.



  As was suggested several messages ago, please do NOT combine -o and -dist.  
 If
 you want to measure a distance, use -o.  If you want g_dist to print a list 
 of
 atoms that satisfy some given criteria, use -dist, but not together.

 -Justin


  Thanks
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 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:52:54
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 aiswarya pawar wrote:

  hi Justin,

 As far i referred the OW,HW1 etc are water atoms so how can it be
 distance between the SOL protein atoms, instead it is SOL water atoms.


  The printed distance indicates that there is a certain water molecule that 
 is
 just over 2 hydrogen bonding lengths away from your protein's backbone.  
 Sounds
 normal to me.

 -Justin


  Thanks

 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
 mailto:jalem...@vt.edu jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 aiswarya pawar wrote:


[gmx-users] QM/MM/MD Semi-empirical Error

2011-09-13 Thread Yao Yao





Hi Guys,

I met a problem when I ran QM/MM/MD using semi-empirical method in 
gmx407+mopac7,


-
Subscript out of range on file line 659, procedure moldat.
Attempt to access the 0-th element of variable eheat.
Aborted
--

I googled it, but there seems no archived info online. Has anyone met this 
before?

Thanks,

Yao Yao





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[gmx-users] building GROMACS 4.5.4 on Power6 with CMAKE

2011-09-13 Thread Marcin Zielinski

Hi Mark,

I can confirm that the fix works.
Setting -DGMX_ACCELERATION=Power6 sets to these
/* Define to a macro mangling the given C identifier (in lower and upper
   case), which must not contain underscores, for linking with Fortran. */
#define F77_FUNC(name,NAME)  name

/* As F77_FUNC, but for C identifiers containing underscores. */
#define F77_FUNC_(name,NAME) name

which do not gives the mentioned error.

regards,

PS: I'll report back if I find something else.
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[gmx-users] how to handle different atom names between pdb and rtp files.

2011-09-13 Thread KONG Xian
Hello, I've got a pdb file,but while I convert it to gro files, I met such
problem:

 

Atom HA in residue MET 1 was not found in rtp entry MET with 11 atoms while
sorting atoms

 

I find that in the rtp files of the ff files, the H atom linked with C-alpha
is called H, but in the pdb file, the same hydrogen atom is called HA, I
think this may be the problem. 

 

So, my problem is, how to convert my pdb files to make the atom names
consistent between the pdb and rtp files?

 

 

KONG Xian

Tsinghua University, Beijing, China

2011/9/13

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Re: [gmx-users] g_dist error

2011-09-13 Thread Mark Abraham

On 13/09/2011 4:14 PM, aiswarya pawar wrote:

Mark,

the command line goes like this-

g_dist -f md.xtc -s md.tpr -dist 0.5 -e 500


This command line is not using an index file. The index groups defined 
for the grompp that produced the .tpr are being used (which may be the 
default ones, depending what you did). Please copy and show the 
interactive input you made to g_dist after it showed the groups it knew 
about.




the index file has group1- a_1322 ( this is just a single atom from a 
protein. its in sidechain)

  group2- a_OW ( this is water atoms)


Your output is listing the time of the frame, and the residue number, 
residue name, atom number, and atom name of the matching atom. 
Apparently a water molecule can sometimes be closer than 0.2nm, and 
sometimes not.


Mark



now as per the utility it should give me and output as-

t:1 1322 a 54119 OW 0.389

but am getting something different

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Mark Abraham 
mark.abra...@anu.edu.au mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 13/09/2011 3:40 PM, aiswarya pawar wrote:


Hi Mark,

The -dist option says- print all the atoms in group 2 that are
closer than a certain distance to the center of mass of group 1.
That means it should give me the distance from OW to protein atom.


If you choose correct groups that are correctly defined with
respect to your trajectory and use a large enough distance cutoff.




And when am already specifying only one atom from protein ie say
1322. why do i get this kind of output-


We can't tell. We don't know what your command line is, what's in
your simulation system, the contents of your index groups, or
which groups you've selected for which role. Clearly something is
not working properly, and our time constraints mean that we're
going to assume you've done something wrong, in the absence of
evidence to the contrary.

Mark




t: 275  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.341434 (nm)
t: 275  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.171584 (nm)
t: 276  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.303328 (nm)
t: 276  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.325176 (nm)
t: 276  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.187259 (nm)
t: 277  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.306008 (nm)
t: 277  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.326195 (nm)
t: 277  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.181089 (nm)
t: 278  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.274507 (nm)
t: 278  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.292652 (nm)
t: 279  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.319922 (nm)
t: 280  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.330082 (nm)
t: 280  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.330203 (nm)
t: 281  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.278731 (nm)
t: 281  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.325434 (nm)
t: 281  11535 SOL 36533 OW  0.200327 (nm)
t: 281  17036 SOL 53036 OW  0.343946 (nm)
t: 282  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.256558 (nm)
t: 282  11535 SOL 36533 OW  0.327147 (nm)
t: 283  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.165061 (nm)
t: 283  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.306578 (nm)
t: 283  17191 SOL 53501 OW  0.333075 (nm)
t: 284  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.19427 (nm)
t: 284  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.321927 (nm)
t: 284  17191 SOL 53501 OW  0.30832 (nm)




On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mark Abraham
mark.abra...@anu.edu.au mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

On 13/09/2011 2:27 PM, aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com
mailto:aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

Iam -dist option because I need the distance between two groups


That is not what g_dist -dist does. Please read g_dist -h.



  excluding -dist gives me X,Y,Z output which I don't want.


And other output which you do, but you have to use -o to get
it. Read g_dist -h.



  And am not specifying an -o.


You need to specify -o to achieve your purpose. However, as I
said quite a while ago, there is no value in measuring the
distance between a protein phase and a water phase if they
are in contact...

Mark



Sent from my BlackBerry® on Reliance Mobile, India's No. 1 Network. Go 
for it!

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From: Justin A. Lemkuljalem...@vt.edu  mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:35:28
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] g_dist error



aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com  mailto:aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com  wrote:

Even if I specify an atom say 1277 atom number to find distance against 
the OW atoms. I get the same result of SOL-OW distance. Is it a bug cause even 
after specifying one atom from a protein why doesn't it give me the result for 
the SOL.



As was suggested several messages ago, please do NOT combine -o and 
-dist.  If
you want to measure a distance, use -o.  If you want g_dist to print a 
list of
atoms that satisfy some given criteria, use -dist, but 

RE: [gmx-users] how to handle different atom names between pdb and rtp files.

2011-09-13 Thread gal.fradin

dear Xian,
 
open the PDB using text editor and replace the name...
 
good luck
 



From: xiansh...@gmail.com
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:36:41 +0800
Subject: [gmx-users] how to handle different atom names between pdb and rtp 
files.






Hello, I’ve got a pdb file,but while I convert it to gro files, I met such 
problem:
 
Atom HA in residue MET 1 was not found in rtp entry MET with 11 atoms while 
sorting atoms
 
I find that in the rtp files of the ff files, the H atom linked with C-alpha is 
called H, but in the pdb file, the same hydrogen atom is called HA, I think 
this may be the problem. 
 
So, my problem is, how to convert my pdb files to make the atom names 
consistent between the pdb and rtp files?
 
 
KONG Xian
Tsinghua University, Beijing, China
2011/9/13

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Re: [gmx-users] g_dist error

2011-09-13 Thread aiswarya pawar
g_dist -f md.xtc -s md.tpr -dist 0.5 -e 500 if the index name not given it
takes the default index file, so there isnt any wrong in selecting the
atoms.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 13/09/2011 4:14 PM, aiswarya pawar wrote:

 Mark,

 the command line goes like this-

 g_dist -f md.xtc -s md.tpr -dist 0.5 -e 500


 This command line is not using an index file. The index groups defined for
 the grompp that produced the .tpr are being used (which may be the default
 ones, depending what you did). Please copy and show the interactive input
 you made to g_dist after it showed the groups it knew about.



 the index file has group1- a_1322 ( this is just a single atom from a
 protein. its in sidechain)
   group2- a_OW ( this is water atoms)


 Your output is listing the time of the frame, and the residue number,
 residue name, atom number, and atom name of the matching atom. Apparently a
 water molecule can sometimes be closer than 0.2nm, and sometimes not.

 Mark



 now as per the utility it should give me and output as-

 t:1 1322 a 54119 OW 0.389

 but am getting something different

 On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 13/09/2011 3:40 PM, aiswarya pawar wrote:


 Hi Mark,

 The -dist option says- print all the atoms in group 2 that are closer than
 a certain distance to the center of mass of group 1.
 That means it should give me the distance from OW to protein atom.


  If you choose correct groups that are correctly defined with respect to
 your trajectory and use a large enough distance cutoff.



 And when am already specifying only one atom from protein ie say 1322. why
 do i get this kind of output-


  We can't tell. We don't know what your command line is, what's in your
 simulation system, the contents of your index groups, or which groups you've
 selected for which role. Clearly something is not working properly, and our
 time constraints mean that we're going to assume you've done something
 wrong, in the absence of evidence to the contrary.

 Mark



 t: 275  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.341434 (nm)
 t: 275  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.171584 (nm)
 t: 276  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.303328 (nm)
 t: 276  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.325176 (nm)
 t: 276  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.187259 (nm)
 t: 277  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.306008 (nm)
 t: 277  20230 SOL 62618 OW  0.326195 (nm)
 t: 277  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.181089 (nm)
 t: 278  10768 SOL 34232 OW  0.274507 (nm)
 t: 278  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.292652 (nm)
 t: 279  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.319922 (nm)
 t: 280  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.330082 (nm)
 t: 280  22019 SOL 67985 OW  0.330203 (nm)
 t: 281  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.278731 (nm)
 t: 281  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.325434 (nm)
 t: 281  11535 SOL 36533 OW  0.200327 (nm)
 t: 281  17036 SOL 53036 OW  0.343946 (nm)
 t: 282  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.256558 (nm)
 t: 282  11535 SOL 36533 OW  0.327147 (nm)
 t: 283  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.165061 (nm)
 t: 283  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.306578 (nm)
 t: 283  17191 SOL 53501 OW  0.333075 (nm)
 t: 284  8273 SOL 26747 OW  0.19427 (nm)
 t: 284  10618 SOL 33782 OW  0.321927 (nm)
 t: 284  17191 SOL 53501 OW  0.30832 (nm)




 On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

  On 13/09/2011 2:27 PM, aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Iam -dist option because I need the distance between two groups


  That is not what g_dist -dist does. Please read g_dist -h.


   excluding -dist gives me X,Y,Z output which I don't want.


  And other output which you do, but you have to use -o to get it. Read
 g_dist -h.


   And am not specifying an -o.


  You need to specify -o to achieve your purpose. However, as I said quite
 a while ago, there is no value in measuring the distance between a protein
 phase and a water phase if they are in contact...

 Mark


  Sent from my BlackBerry® on Reliance Mobile, India's No. 1 Network. Go for 
 it!

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu jalem...@vt.edu
 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:35:28
 To: aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com; Discussion list 
 for GROMACS usersgmx-users@gromacs.org gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Reply-To: jalem...@vt.edu
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] g_dist error


 aiswarya.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

  Even if I specify an atom say 1277 atom number to find distance against 
 the OW atoms. I get the same result of SOL-OW distance. Is it a bug cause 
 even after specifying one atom from a protein why doesn't it give me the 
 result for the SOL.



  As was suggested several messages ago, please do NOT combine -o and -dist. 
  If
 you want to measure a distance, use -o.  If you want g_dist to print a list 
 of
 atoms that satisfy some given criteria, use -dist, but not together.

 -Justin


  Thanks
 Sent from my BlackBerry® on Reliance Mobile, India's No. 1 Network. Go for 
 it!

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu jalem...@vt.edu
 Sender: 

Re: [gmx-users] g_rms matrix between wt and mutant

2011-09-13 Thread Shay Teaching
Ok I tried that and it doesn't work:
There's a fundamental difference between chains/no-chains topology, namely
the existence of peptide bond between chains, and the different protonation
state on the termini.
In the chain-based topology there are several termini, and less peptide
bonds.

This causes the no-chains-tpr to have different number of atoms, and
different protonation states.
I tried using tpbconv to make a backbone-tpr, but it still gets me to
segmentation fault.

So thanks, but I don't think it would work.
-SA

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Shay Teaching shay.teach...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks, I'll try that, and post again if it works.


 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Shay Teaching wrote:

 When I try to work the command on a small portion of the backbone it
 seems to work just fine. But when I try the entire backbone (which is
 composed of several _separate_ chains) I am getting segmentation fault.
 Any workaround for that, so I can use the entire backbone?


 Are there chain identifiers separating the proteins?  I don't know if that
 would cause the problem, but it's possible.  In that case, I'd suggest you
 start with a coordinate file and topology without chain identifiers and
 generate a new .tpr file (and then take the backbone atoms only with
 tpbconv).

 -Justin

  Thanks again,
 -Shay


 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edumailto:
 jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



Shay Teaching wrote:

Hi all,
(Gromacs 4.0.7): I am trying to make rms matrix between one Wt
trajectory and one mutant trajectory using the following command:

g_rms -f wt.xtc -f2 mutant.xtc -s wt.tpr -m -fit rot+trans -n
wt_backbone.ndx

The file wt_backbone.ndx contains the backbone of the protein
(Backbone indices are identical between wt and mutant).

The result is that I am getting a well deserved error saying
that wt.xtc and mutant.xtc has different number of atoms (the
tpr itself):
Fatal error:
Second trajectory (76128 atoms) does not match the first one
(76129 atoms)

So the question becomes: Is there a (convenient) way to produce
rms-matrix between wt and mutant?
Or perhaps circumvent this problem in some other way?


Use trjconv to write out new trajectories containing only backbone
atoms of each protein, then use tpbconv to write a .tpr file with
only backbone atoms in it (using index groups, if necessary).  Then
run g_rms again with these new trajectories and .tpr file.
 Everything should match if the indices are chosen correctly.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_rms matrix between wt and mutant

2011-09-13 Thread Mark Abraham

On 13/09/2011 6:11 PM, Shay Teaching wrote:

Ok I tried that and it doesn't work:
There's a fundamental difference between chains/no-chains topology, 
namely the existence of peptide bond between chains, and the different 
protonation state on the termini.
In the chain-based topology there are several termini, and less 
peptide bonds.


This causes the no-chains-tpr to have different number of atoms, and 
different protonation states.
I tried using tpbconv to make a backbone-tpr, but it still gets me to 
segmentation fault.


The idea behind Justin's original solution is still right. You need to 
provide two sets of corresponding atoms and those sets have to have the 
same size. So you need to construct two index groups that suit what you 
actually want to compare - say, the backbone atoms that are common to 
the two forms. That will require some thought, and playing around with 
make_ndx (or a text editor). Then use those to create subset .tpr and 
trajectory files as Justin suggested. Each form is likely to need its 
own customized index group to make the subset that is correct for it.


Mark



So thanks, but I don't think it would work.
-SA

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Shay Teaching 
shay.teach...@gmail.com mailto:shay.teach...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks, I'll try that, and post again if it works.


On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



Shay Teaching wrote:

When I try to work the command on a small portion of the
backbone it seems to work just fine. But when I try the
entire backbone (which is composed of several _separate_
chains) I am getting segmentation fault.
Any workaround for that, so I can use the entire backbone?


Are there chain identifiers separating the proteins?  I don't
know if that would cause the problem, but it's possible.  In
that case, I'd suggest you start with a coordinate file and
topology without chain identifiers and generate a new .tpr
file (and then take the backbone atoms only with tpbconv).

-Justin

Thanks again,
-Shay


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jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



   Shay Teaching wrote:

   Hi all,
   (Gromacs 4.0.7): I am trying to make rms matrix
between one Wt
   trajectory and one mutant trajectory using the
following command:

   g_rms -f wt.xtc -f2 mutant.xtc -s wt.tpr -m -fit
rot+trans -n
   wt_backbone.ndx

   The file wt_backbone.ndx contains the backbone of
the protein
   (Backbone indices are identical between wt and mutant).

   The result is that I am getting a well deserved
error saying
   that wt.xtc and mutant.xtc has different number of
atoms (the
   tpr itself):
   Fatal error:
   Second trajectory (76128 atoms) does not match the
first one
   (76129 atoms)

   So the question becomes: Is there a (convenient)
way to produce
   rms-matrix between wt and mutant?
   Or perhaps circumvent this problem in some other way?


   Use trjconv to write out new trajectories containing
only backbone
   atoms of each protein, then use tpbconv to write a .tpr
file with
   only backbone atoms in it (using index groups, if
necessary).  Then
   run g_rms again with these new trajectories and .tpr file.
Everything should match if the indices are chosen
correctly.

   -Justin

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[gmx-users] gmx output in VMD

2011-09-13 Thread meisam valizadeh kiamahalleh
Dear Gmx users
I have run MD on carbon nanotube with solvated drug molecules inside and
outside the tubes. Kindly would you please let me know how I
can visualize and calculate the amount of molecules only inside the carbon
nanotube during MD process. May I know what keywords I should use in graph
presentation?
or
Do you suggest any other software to solve this problem?

Thank you very much
Kind regards

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[gmx-users] RE:g_lie

2011-09-13 Thread lloyd riggs
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:38:57 +0300
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Subject: [gmx-users] g_lie (again..)
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Hi all,

Could anyone please refer to me to a paper or other resource that explains
in detail (specifically technical) on how to preform g_lie. I know the
matter has been brought up here quit often lately but looking through the
mailing list archives and reference papaers (Aquist et al. and similar) tend
to focus on the theory rather than practice.

Thanks in advance,

Gideon

Just type it into the web, or pubmed.gov.  I get 10 hits such as below.  In 
addition, I back tracked the origional paper from slides or tutorials that 
reference the origional gromacs g_lie paper, but are somewhwere on the gromacs 
web page.

Stephan Watkins

J Mol Graph Model. 2006 Oct;25(2):176-85. Epub 2006 Jan 10.
Predicting proteinase specificities from free energy calculations.
Mekonnen SM, Olufsen M, Smalås AO, Brandsdal BO. 
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[gmx-users] can i get the amber94 topology file for so4 molecule?

2011-09-13 Thread Asha J
can i get the amber94 topology file for so4 molecule?

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Re: [gmx-users] gmx output in VMD

2011-09-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



meisam valizadeh kiamahalleh wrote:

Dear Gmx users
I have run MD on carbon nanotube with solvated drug molecules inside and 
outside the tubes. Kindly would you please let me know how I 
can visualize and calculate the amount of molecules only inside the 
carbon nanotube during MD process. May I know what keywords I should use 
in graph presentation? 
or

Do you suggest any other software to solve this problem?



This is a question best posted to the VMD mailing list.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: amb2gmx.pl to convert GLYCAM topology

2011-09-13 Thread Alan
Hi Yun,

Have you read http://ambermd.org/formats.html?

In particular, this note:


NOTE: *the atom numbers in the following arrays that describe bonds, angles,
and dihedrals are coordinate array indexes for runtime speed. The true atom
number equals the absolute value of the number divided by three, plus one.
In the case of the dihedrals, if the fourth atom is negative, this implies
that the dihedral is an improper. If the third atom is negative, this
implies that the end group interations are to be ignored. End group
interactions are ignored, for example, in dihedrals of various ring systems
(to prevent double counting of 1-4 interactions) and in multiterm dihedrals.
*


I may be failing to understand what you mean by GLYCAM force field assigns
negative force constants to some dihedrals.

Anyway, since GMX 4.5 can go without RB convertions, you can do this:

acpype -x disac.inpcrd -p disac.prmtop --gmx45

If you have sander, you can do just one step of EM and compare against one
step EM with GMX. Do the proper conversions and Energies diff should be 
0.001%.

Cheers,

Alan

On 12 September 2011 21:21, Yun Shi yunsh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am not a CS person, but I did find something in acpype.py as

 .
 if phase in [0, 180]:
 properDihedralsGmx45.append([item[0].atoms, phaseRaw,
 kPhi, period])
 if not self.gmx45:
 if kPhi  0: V[period] = 2 * kPhi * cal
 if period == 1:
 C[0] += 0.5 * V[period]
 if phase == 0:
 C[1] -= 0.5 * V[period]
 else:
 C[1] += 0.5 * V[period]
 elif period == 2:
 ..

 kPhi here seems to be the dihedral force constant, and it seems if kPhi 
 0, no value will be assigned to C[0], C[1], C[2] ...

 I wonder if the negative dihedral force constants problem could be solved
 by changing 'kPhi  0' to 'kPhi != 0' for acpype?

 Thanks,

 Yun

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Re: [gmx-users] pull code: distance between pull grp and ref grp is more than usual at the begining of simulation (at 1st time frame 1 ps)

2011-09-13 Thread Shilpi Chaurasia
Dear Justin,



Thanks a lot for your reply.

Here I am providing the data and explaining the problem in detail:



I hope that it will help you in understanding in a better way. 
Considering the tetramer as 'abcd'.  'ab' as one dimer and 'cd' as 
another, I want to separate 'ab' and 'cd'. Length of each dimer is 8 nm,
 so the tetramer (initial configuration) is approximately 16 nm and I 
have used a cubic box of 30 nm. Two groups (reference group and pull 
group) are decided on the basis of residue numbers forming 'ab' as 
reference grp and 'bc' as pull group by making an index file. 



I have verified that the initial configuration does not split across 
periodic boundaries, it is always inside the box throughout the 
simulation. Moreover, the initial distance is not equal to box vector. 



By g_dist , I have tried to calculate the distance between the two groups and 
it came out to be approx. 15 nm (Please have a look at the dist.xvg
 file at the end). Do you think that in the first ps time frame, should 
it get separated by 15 nm?? Please correct me if I have done anything 
wrong.



By mistake, in my last mail I wrote that I need to pull along Y axis. In
 actual, it is Z-axis and I have used pull_dim N N Y. So it is just the 
mistake in writing the mail.



Please let me know do you need any other data or parameters that I have used 
during this simulation.

An early reply would me much appreciated.





---

---

dist.xvg





# This file was created Tue Sep 13 11:09:23 2011

# by the following command:

# g_dist -f tub_pull.xtc -s tub_pull.tpr -n index.ndx 

#

# g_dist is part of G R O M A C S:

#

# Giving Russians Opium May Alter Current Situation

#

@    title Distance

@    xaxis  label Time (ps)

@    yaxis  label Distance (nm)

@TYPE xy

@ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85

@ legend on

@ legend box on

@ legend loctype view

@ legend 0.78, 0.8

@ legend length 2

@ s0 legend |d|

@ s1 legend d\sx\N

@ s2 legend d\sy\N

@ s3 legend d\sz\N

   0.000   15.0342455   -0.7714367   -0.9718266   14.9829559

   0.500   15.0345469   -0.7726345   -0.9766102  -14.9828863

   1.000   15.0345631   -0.7665710   -0.9862967  -14.9825792

   1.500   15.0343399   -0.7575226   -0.9916229   14.9824638

   2.000   15.0335970   -0.7490749   -0.9957008  -14.9818726

   2.500   15.0322971   -0.7446661   -0.9996347  -14.9805260

   3.000   15.0341187   -0.7364883   -1.0029345  -14.9825373

   3.500   15.0331717   -0.7328205   -1.0078001   14.9814405

   4.000   15.0311899   -0.7334194   -1.0118599   14.9791489

   4.500   15.0334759   -0.7351160   -1.0128736   14.9812908

   5.000   15.0336533   -0.7327585   -1.0102243   14.9817638

   5.500   15.0327044   -0.7342167   -1.0076447   14.9809132

   6.000   15.0335188   -0.7365904   -1.0090990  -14.9815168

   6.500   15.0296631   -0.7375288   -1.0111809  -14.9774609

   7.000   15.0294476   -0.7318525   -1.0155020  -14.9772310

   7.500   15.0322533   -0.7323456   -1.0173597  -14.9798965

   8.000   15.0353861   -0.7333517   -1.0172930   14.9829950

   8.500   15.0323915   -0.7285290   -1.0122719   14.9805660

   9.000   15.0284719   -0.7241497   -1.0072327   14.9771843

   9.500   15.0285101   -0.7232113   -1.0051012   14.9774113

  10.000   15.0306396   -0.7257242   -1.0020084   14.9796333

  10.500   15.0324621   -0.7242069   -0.9959688   14.9819384

  11.000   15.0324860   -0.7183657   -0.9881392  -14.9827623

  11.500   15.0308609   -0.7121477   -0.9848318  -14.9816465

  12.000   15.0318832   -0.7091122   -0.9842033   14.9828577

  12.500   15.0316772   -0.7063818   -0.9834919  -14.9828262

  13.000   15.0291939   -0.7024584   -0.9846754  -14.9804420

  13.500   15.0307999   -0.7052488   -0.9864941   14.9818020

  14.000   15.0286407   -0.7049980   -0.9902172   14.9794016

  14.500   15.0301456   -0.7010813   -0.9916439  -14.9810019

  15.000   15.0305882   -0.6967783   -0.9922857  -14.9816036

  15.500   15.0319242   -0.6941795   -0.9950562   14.9828815

  16.000   15.0315027   -0.6892128   -0.9928131   14.9828358

  16.500   15.0314274   -0.6889334   -0.9883585  -14.9830685

  17.000   15.0296593   -0.6906672   -0.9852924   14.9814167

  17.500   15.0277662   -0.6964712   -0.9844646  -14.9793034

  18.000   15.0301647   

Re: [gmx-users] pull code: distance between pull grp and ref grp is more than usual at the begining of simulation (at 1st time frame 1 ps)

2011-09-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Shilpi Chaurasia wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thanks a lot for your reply.
Here I am providing the data and explaining the problem in detail:

I hope that it will help you in understanding in a better way. 
Considering the tetramer as 'abcd'.  'ab' as one dimer and 'cd' as 
another, I want to separate 'ab' and 'cd'. Length of each dimer is 8 nm, 
so the tetramer (initial configuration) is approximately 16 nm and I 
have used a cubic box of 30 nm. Two groups (reference group and pull 
group) are decided on the basis of residue numbers forming 'ab' as 
reference grp and 'bc' as pull group by making an index file.




I will assume you mean CD here.  If your groups are AB and BC, then you'll 
certainly have problems.


I have verified that the initial configuration does not split across 
periodic boundaries, it is always inside the box throughout the 
simulation. Moreover, the initial distance is not equal to box vector.


By g_dist , I have tried to calculate the distance between the two 
groups and it came out to be approx. 15 nm (Please have a look at the 
dist.xvg file at the end). Do you think that in the first ps time frame, 
should it get separated by 15 nm?? Please correct me if I have done 
anything wrong.




If the dimer truly is together, then I would think this distance is too large 
unless (1) it actually is actually split across PBC, (2) your size calculations 
are wrong, or (3) your index groups are wrong.  In any case, I can see this 
being a problem.  A distance of 15 nm is 50% of the box size, and as soon as 
separation occurs, your pulling reference distance will be greater than 50% of 
the box vector, which causes a periodic distance to be calculated.  Either use 
the distance_periodic pulling geometry or use a larger box.


See below for a few thoughts on the dist.xvg data.

By mistake, in my last mail I wrote that I need to pull along Y axis. In 
actual, it is Z-axis and I have used pull_dim N N Y. So it is just the 
mistake in writing the mail.


Please let me know do you need any other data or parameters that I have 
used during this simulation.


It would also be useful to know what grompp printed as the reference distance at 
time t=0.


Here's why I think periodicity is indeed an issue:


   0.000   15.0342455   -0.7714367   -0.9718266   14.9829559
   0.500   15.0345469   -0.7726345   -0.9766102  -14.9828863


Note that within 0.5 ps, the sign of the z-distance has changed but the 
magnitude is basically the same.  This indicates to me that your dimer is 
dancing back and forth across a periodic boundary.  The output of pullx.xvg 
would also be informative to confirm this phenomenon.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] building GROMACS 4.5.4 on Power6 with CMAKE

2011-09-13 Thread Marcin Zielinski

Ok,

Using -DGMX_ACCELERATION=Power6 brings a plethora of new errors during 
the compilation.


Firstly, including config.h inside the fortran .F kernel files for 
power6 is causing problems with
their parsing using xlf. adding -WF,-qfpp didn't help. Had to provide a 
modified xlf.cfg config file

for XLF (cppoptions = -P, instead of -C)
and pass it on with -F option and then add -qarch=pwr6 (all passed 
manually) for compilation of
each power6 kernel .F file. That fixed the problem with the compilation 
of Power6 kernels part.


Is there any more handy way of doing that? I've noticed that upon using 
Power6, cmake generates
Fortran_DEFINES and Fortran_FLAGS inside 
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/flags.make file.
They somehow can not be modified from the command line. Same goes for 
the preprocessor flags.

(-DCMAKE_CPP_FLAGS do not work?).

Secondly, now I get something else:
Linking C shared library libmd.so
xlc: 1501-218 (W) file ../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6 contains an incorrect file 
suffix

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `__bss_start':
(*ABS*+0x1025cb00): multiple definition of `_edata'
../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `__data_start':
(.data+0x8): multiple definition of `__dso_handle'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/crtbeginS.o:(.data.rel+0x0): 
first defined here

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `_fini':
(.opd+0x30): multiple definition of `_fini'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/../../../../lib64/crti.o:initfini.c:(.opd+0x18): 
first defined here

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `_init':
(.opd+0x18): multiple definition of `_init'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/../../../../lib64/crti.o:initfini.c:(.opd+0x0): 
first defined here

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `_end':
(*ABS*+0x10268b20): multiple definition of `_end'
../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `__bss_start':
(*ABS*+0x1025cb00): multiple definition of `__bss_start'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/crtendS.o:(.dtors+0x0): multiple 
definition of `__DTOR_END__'

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6:(.dtors+0x8): first defined here
/usr/bin/ld: error in ../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6(.eh_frame); no .eh_frame_hdr 
table will be created.

make[2]: *** [src/mdlib/libmd.so.6] Error 1
make[1]: *** [src/mdlib/CMakeFiles/md.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

cheers,
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Re: [gmx-users] building GROMACS 4.5.4 on Power6 with CMAKE

2011-09-13 Thread Mark Abraham

On 14/09/2011 12:20 AM, Marcin Zielinski wrote:

Ok,

Using -DGMX_ACCELERATION=Power6 brings a plethora of new errors during 
the compilation.


Firstly, including config.h inside the fortran .F kernel files for 
power6 is causing problems with
their parsing using xlf. adding -WF,-qfpp didn't help. Had to provide 
a modified xlf.cfg config file

for XLF (cppoptions = -P, instead of -C)
and pass it on with -F option and then add -qarch=pwr6 (all passed 
manually) for compilation of
each power6 kernel .F file. That fixed the problem with the 
compilation of Power6 kernels part.


Is there any more handy way of doing that? I've noticed that upon 
using Power6, cmake generates
Fortran_DEFINES and Fortran_FLAGS inside 
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/flags.make file.
They somehow can not be modified from the command line. Same goes for 
the preprocessor flags.

(-DCMAKE_CPP_FLAGS do not work?).

Secondly, now I get something else:
Linking C shared library libmd.so
xlc: 1501-218 (W) file ../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6 contains an incorrect 
file suffix

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `__bss_start':
(*ABS*+0x1025cb00): multiple definition of `_edata'
../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `__data_start':
(.data+0x8): multiple definition of `__dso_handle'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/crtbeginS.o:(.data.rel+0x0): 
first defined here

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `_fini':
(.opd+0x30): multiple definition of `_fini'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/../../../../lib64/crti.o:initfini.c:(.opd+0x18): 
first defined here

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `_init':
(.opd+0x18): multiple definition of `_init'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/../../../../lib64/crti.o:initfini.c:(.opd+0x0): 
first defined here

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `_end':
(*ABS*+0x10268b20): multiple definition of `_end'
../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6: In function `__bss_start':
(*ABS*+0x1025cb00): multiple definition of `__bss_start'
/usr/lib64/gcc/powerpc64-suse-linux/4.3/crtendS.o:(.dtors+0x0): 
multiple definition of `__DTOR_END__'

../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6:(.dtors+0x8): first defined here
/usr/bin/ld: error in ../gmxlib/libgmx.so.6(.eh_frame); no 
.eh_frame_hdr table will be created.

make[2]: *** [src/mdlib/libmd.so.6] Error 1
make[1]: *** [src/mdlib/CMakeFiles/md.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2


Beats me, sorry.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Nucleic Acid in vacuo

2011-09-13 Thread Matthias Ernst
Thank you very much for your help, Justin. 
I tried it with those mdp options:

title   =   INITIAL_EM0
cpp =   /lib/cpp
constraints =   all-bonds
integrator  =   md
rlist   =   0.0
rcoulomb=   0.0
rvdw=   0.0
pbc =   no

This resulted in
AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
1.88961e+016.04179e+015.60480e-043.74069e+01   -2.06394e+02
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
6.94305e-03   -5.66241e+01   -1.46290e+022.88457e-01   -1.46002e+02
Temperature Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
1.21730e+000.0e+000.0e+00

So, now the 1-4-values are slightly better (37.11 - 37.04 LJ, -207.7
- -206.3 Coulomb), while the SR-LJ and Coulomb energys are at two
orders of magnitude too small (LJ: 0.7127 - 0.0069430, Coulomb:
-4354.5 - -56.62). 

In fact, I considered looking through the code but wanted to avoid it
because I fear that there are so much optimisations implemented in
Gromacs that I probably will not understand whats going on and why.
Maybe I will try it, but first I will play with the forcefield
parameters to see what happens if I switch everything off except certain
pairs, then I can compare them.

Besides, I'm wondering, is there a way to disable all optimisations and
just do a plain Lennard-Jones and Coulomb evaluation in vacuo without
any box, solvent, boundary conditions and without cutoffs in Gromacs?

Thanks and best regards,
Matthias


Am Montag, den 12.09.2011, 14:37 +0200 schrieb Justin A. Lemkul:
 
 Matthias Ernst wrote:
  Dear Gromacs users,
  
  I am currently working on porting forcefields from Gromacs to another
  program with the aim of simulating DNA. Therefore, I wrote a little
  script which reads in a PDB file, evaluates the Lennard-Jones and the
  Coulomb energy in vacuo with the forcefield data from Gromacs.  I tried
  to implement the search for the neighbours by comparing inter-atomic
  distances to the van-der-Waals-radii and a flexible list-based factor
  weighting of the various contributions (where -1 is a default value, 0
  is the atom itsself, 1 a bond to a next neighbour and so on, so my
  factor 3 should be equivalent to the 1-4-interaction in Gromacs).
  
  To verify what I have done, I tried to do a calculation of a single DA
  nucleic acid with Gromacs to compare the LJ and Coulomb energy.
  Unfortunately, the results do not match and I do not understand why.
  
  Please find the PDB code I used here http://pastebin.com/zB3sQHdZ and
  the python code I used for evaluating the potentials here
  http://pastebin.com/2v4nVdg3
  
  The results I got with my code are 
  - Total Lennard-Jones Energy [kJ/mol]:   0.712752493372
  - Total 1-4-Lennard-Jones Energy [kJ/mol]:   37.1121824156
  - Total Coulomb Energy [kJ/mol]:   -4354.55160305
  - Total Coulomb 1-4 Energy [kJ/mol]:   -207.712332451
  
  Using Gromacs, I got
 Energies (kJ/mol)
  AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
  2.00975e+016.05485e+014.28869e-043.69509e+01   -2.06010e+02
  LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  Potential Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
  -1.45022e+00   -5.67518e+01   -1.46615e+020.0e+001.80690e-04
  
  The option in my mdp are
  title   =   INITIAL_EM0
  cpp =   /lib/cpp
  constraints =   all-bonds
  integrator  =   steep
  nsteps  =   50
  nstcomm =   1
  ns_type =   grid
  rlist   =   0.0
  rcoulomb=   0.0
  rvdw=   0.0
  
  ;
  ; Energy minimizing stuff
  ;
  emtol   =   1500.0
  emstep  =   0.01
  
  Tcoupl  =   no
  Pcoupl  =   no
  gen_vel =   no
  pbc = no
  
  I have not yet done a lot of calculations with Gromacs so maybe I did
  something wrong. If so, please correct me.
  
 
 You're better off with a single-point energy calculation, rather than a 
 50-step 
 EM.  Use the MD integrator with nsteps = 0 to compare configurations.  If I 
 recall, steepest descents makes a move before step zero, so you're not 
 comparing 
 the same quantities.
 
  What I wonder is that the 1-4-energies seem quite reasonable (LJ: 37.11
  vs. 36.95, Coulomb -207.7 vs. -206.0) but the rest is rather different,
  especially the sign of the LJ term and the order of magnitude of the
  Coulomb term. Why is that? What does the SR in LJ and Coulomb in the
  Gromacs output mean?
  
 
 SR means short-range, i.e. within the cutoff.  Since you've set all cutoffs 
 to 
 zero, this effectively means all interactions are calculated in this case.
 
 I can't offer an explanation for the different values observed, but I'll 
 suggest 
 you look into the Gromacs code to see how it calculates the energies and 
 compare 
 your program to see if you are, in fact, doing things the same way.
 
 -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Nucleic Acid in vacuo

2011-09-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Matthias Ernst wrote:
Thank you very much for your help, Justin. 
I tried it with those mdp options:


title   =   INITIAL_EM0
cpp =   /lib/cpp
constraints =   all-bonds
integrator  =   md
rlist   =   0.0
rcoulomb=   0.0
rvdw=   0.0
pbc =   no

This resulted in
AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
1.88961e+016.04179e+015.60480e-043.74069e+01   -2.06394e+02
LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy
6.94305e-03   -5.66241e+01   -1.46290e+022.88457e-01   -1.46002e+02
Temperature Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
1.21730e+000.0e+000.0e+00

So, now the 1-4-values are slightly better (37.11 - 37.04 LJ, -207.7
- -206.3 Coulomb), while the SR-LJ and Coulomb energys are at two
orders of magnitude too small (LJ: 0.7127 - 0.0069430, Coulomb:
-4354.5 - -56.62). 


In fact, I considered looking through the code but wanted to avoid it
because I fear that there are so much optimisations implemented in
Gromacs that I probably will not understand whats going on and why.
Maybe I will try it, but first I will play with the forcefield
parameters to see what happens if I switch everything off except certain
pairs, then I can compare them.

Besides, I'm wondering, is there a way to disable all optimisations and
just do a plain Lennard-Jones and Coulomb evaluation in vacuo without
any box, solvent, boundary conditions and without cutoffs in Gromacs?



That's essentially what you're doing with the .mdp file above.  No box (pbc = 
no), no cutoffs (r* = 0) and no solvent.  There are options to disable 
optimizations and use generic kernels in Gromacs, but I can't recall all of them 
at the moment.  Various environment variables are listed in the manual for 
disabling optimizations and in the configuration help description.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] QM/MM/MD Semi-empirical Error

2011-09-13 Thread Yao Yao
Hi Guys,
I met a problem when I ran QM/MM/MD using semi-empirical method in 
gmx407+mopac7,


Subscript out of range on file line 1002, procedure domldt.
Attempt to access the 161-th element of variable labels.
Aborted

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Has anyone met this before?

Thanks,

yao 






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Hi Guys,

I met a problem when I ran QM/MM/MD using semi-empirical method in 
gmx407+mopac7,


-
Subscript out of range on file line 659, procedure moldat.
Attempt to access the 0-th element of variable eheat.
Aborted
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I googled it, but there seems no archived info online. Has anyone met this 
before?

Thanks,

Yao Yao





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[gmx-users] phase transition in MD simulation

2011-09-13 Thread Elisabeth
Dear experts,

I am working on a pure polymer melt system under NPT and at a given T,
pressure is increased up to around 1000 bar. However, the phase diagram of
the polymer is indicating that at this T, as pressure is increased to above
500 bar, system falls below the melting point.

I mean I am doing NPT on a liquid polymer by packing the chains in to the
box but even applying a pressure of 1000 bar does not make the atoms or
chains resemble a solid phase. The system would only become a more packed
liquid phase. In other words, MD is representing an extrapolated liquid
phase in the subcooled region.

My question is whether there is any way to identify phase transition from MD
simulation.

Please comment and let me know what you think.

Thanking you,
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RE: [gmx-users] phase transition in MD simulation

2011-09-13 Thread Dallas Warren
It certainly is, you just need to focus on a property that changes between the 
phases and that is obtainable from the MDSs.  For a transition from liquid to 
solid, things like RDF, SDF, dihedral fractions and diffusion coefficients 
might provide some insight.

You have the trajectories, why don't you just try as many of the properties you 
can get out of it and see if you see a change?

Visual inspect is also a powerful technique, but you will need to back that up 
with some actual values.  The averaging function in VMD can be quite handy for 
this, showing the average structure of a molecule over a particular time 
frame.

Something you need to consider, is the time frame involved for a polymer to 
change between a liquid and solid state and the simulation time you have 
used.  With having no idea on what polymer you have, size etc, I would hazard 
to say you would need easily something in the order of 200+ns to start to see 
some ordering occurring, if not something an order of magnitude longer.  
Polymers are big molecules and it will take long time for things to rearrange.

And finally, the forcefield wont necessarily show the correct behaviour, unless 
it was derived to do that.  It could simply be a poor model to use for showing 
phase behaviour.

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
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Behalf Of Elisabeth
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 11:33 AM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: [gmx-users] phase transition in MD simulation

Dear experts,

I am working on a pure polymer melt system under NPT and at a given T, pressure 
is increased up to around 1000 bar. However, the phase diagram of the polymer 
is indicating that at this T, as pressure is increased to above 500 bar, system 
falls below the melting point.

I mean I am doing NPT on a liquid polymer by packing the chains in to the box 
but even applying a pressure of 1000 bar does not make the atoms or chains 
resemble a solid phase. The system would only become a more packed liquid 
phase. In other words, MD is representing an extrapolated liquid phase in the 
subcooled region.

My question is whether there is any way to identify phase transition from MD 
simulation.

Please comment and let me know what you think.

Thanking you,

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Re: [gmx-users] Time-varying Ion Charges

2011-09-13 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hey Zach,

You may be best off starting from the free energy code. It can be used to
perturb charges and other things during a simulation.

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk

On Sep 13, 2011 2:55 AM, Zach Levine zach.levine@gmail.com wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to implement time-varying charges for various ions located
in ions.itp in GROMACS 4.5.4, but I'm not sure where to begin.

I've already had some luck implementing AC external electric fields by
modifying /src/mdlib/sim_util.c, but this required minimal work from
me and a few strategically placed cosines. I have a feeling though
that time-varying individual atomic charges will be considerably more
difficult since I imagine GROMACS only reads from topol.top (and thus
from ions.itp) just once at the beginning without updating the value,
so I would likely have to import the time variable and recalculate the
charge at every successive step. Since time is explicitly mentioned in
the calc_f_el routine of sim_util.c (when I was dealing with external
fields) I had no problems making this work there, but is it possible
(or practical) to do the same thing with my static atomic charges as
well?

I've found some references to reading topol.top in
/src/kernel/topio.c, and in theory I'd like to import, update, and
export certain charges as a function of time, perhaps also in
sim_util.c? I just don't know which files or variables to start
importing in, or where the best place to implement this would be.

Any ideas on this would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just
keywords or significant variables for me to grep.

Thanks,
Zach
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[gmx-users] installation of FFTW

2011-09-13 Thread ITHAYARAJA
Hi

I am working with RHEL 6 beta, I unable to install the FFTW package while
installation I found the following error,


make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/
fftw-3.3.1-beta1/tools'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1/tools'
Making all in m4
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1/m4'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1/m4'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1'


can you help me to find out where i did wrong?

Thanks in advance

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Department of Bionformatics,
Bharathiar University,
Coimbatore 641 046,
Tamil Nadu
India
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Re: [gmx-users] installation of FFTW

2011-09-13 Thread Mark Abraham

On 14/09/2011 3:24 PM, ITHAYARAJA wrote:


Hi

I am working with RHEL 6 beta, I unable to install the FFTW package 
while installation I found the following error,


There is no error reported in what you have shown.




make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/
fftw-3.3.1-beta1/tools'
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1/tools'

Making all in m4
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1/m4'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1/m4'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Ithayaraja/Desktop/fftw-3.3.1-beta1'


can you help me to find out where i did wrong?


Not without knowing your configure line, knowing that you have followed 
the instructions on the GROMACS webpage, seeing what the actual error 
message was, and knowing why you're trying to use a beta of a version of 
FFTW that is a few years out of date. :)


Mark
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