[gmx-users] NVT equilibration of ethanol in OPLSAA ff

2011-10-05 Thread Ravi Kumar Venkatraman
Dear All,
 I downloaded ethanol.pdb file from prodrg server (all-atom). I
used ethanol.itp file that was in oplsaa.ff directory of gromacs to create
topology file for ethanol. I used genconf_d command to generate solvent box
of 512 molecules (as of Bevan's gromacs tutorial) and then I scaled the
solvent box for the density of ethanol (785.22 g/l) at 298.15. Before
creatin solvent box I EM the isolated solvent molecule, then I used that
molecule to generate the solvent box. Then I EM the solvent box 512
molecules.Followin are the parameters for EM of Solvent box.

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = steep
; start time and timestep in ps
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.001
nsteps   = 1
nstlist  = 10
rlist= 1.1
coulombtype  = pme
pme_order= 4
fourierspacing   = 0.16
rcoulomb = 1.1
vdw-type = cut-off
rvdw = 1.1
nstenergy= 10
; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS
emtol= 1000.0
emstep   = 0.1

I saw the em.xvg file it is minimized well.
Then I started NVT equilibration with lincs constraints for hbonds at
timesteps of 0.2 fs and runned for 5 ps. The resultant configuration shows
that most of the molecules were together at region of box and there was some
void inside the box. I used cut-off of 1.1 nm for electrostatic and VdW
interactions. I didn't use any shift or switch function. (can anybody
suggest me a good tutorial to understand the judicious use of this
functions.) Please help me sort this problem. If you need further details I
am ready to send you.

Thank you.

With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept.,
IISc, INDIA.
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[gmx-users] angke definition

2011-10-05 Thread Алексей Раевский
Hi, i need your help again! this time in the selection of analyzing tools
and methods... I've found a water molecule near one of the ligand atoms.
It's stabile enough and the distance is about 3.3 A. But I want to make some
measurments, exactly angle degree identification. I want to calculate the
frequence of forming of angle (about 90 degree) between oxygen of the water
and the plane (formed by the atom of the ligand and several atoms around (it
is a first CA atom and carboxyl group CA-C-O-OH of aminoacid)). But a
perpendicular
from OW is connected exactly to C atom of carboxyl group. In other
case gromacs is trying to calculate an angle between OW and the whole,
unlimited plane... Can I do such analyze? Ormay be you can give me  some
advices
Thank you!
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Re: [gmx-users] NVT equilibration of ethanol in OPLSAA ff

2011-10-05 Thread Mark Abraham

On 5/10/2011 6:36 PM, Ravi Kumar Venkatraman wrote:

Dear All,
 I downloaded ethanol.pdb file from prodrg server 
(all-atom). I used ethanol.itp file that was in oplsaa.ff directory of 
gromacs to create topology file for ethanol. I used genconf_d command 
to generate solvent box of 512 molecules (as of Bevan's gromacs 
tutorial) and then I scaled the solvent box for the density of ethanol 
(785.22 g/l) at 298.15.


Did you view the system+box at this stage? What were your actual 
commands? You will get much more effective help if you provide an excess 
of information, than if you expect people to guess the right follow-up 
questions when they have little information.


Before creatin solvent box I EM the isolated solvent molecule, then I 
used that molecule to generate the solvent box. Then I EM the solvent 
box 512 molecules.Followin are the parameters for EM of Solvent box.


; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = steep
; start time and timestep in ps
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.001
nsteps   = 1
nstlist  = 10
rlist= 1.1
coulombtype  = pme
pme_order= 4
fourierspacing   = 0.16
rcoulomb = 1.1
vdw-type = cut-off
rvdw = 1.1
nstenergy= 10
; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS
emtol= 1000.0
emstep   = 0.1

I saw the em.xvg file it is minimized well.
Then I started NVT equilibration with lincs constraints for hbonds at 
timesteps of 0.2 fs and runned for 5 ps. The resultant configuration 
shows that most of the molecules were together at region of box and 
there was some void inside the box. I used cut-off of 1.1 nm for 
electrostatic and VdW interactions. I didn't use any shift or switch 
function. (can anybody suggest me a good tutorial to understand the 
judicious use of this functions.)


What you've done is fine so far. There is no clear path for these 
choices. Ideally you should consider the scheme under which the force 
field was parameterized, and how it has been successfully used since, 
and do something very similar.


Mark

Please help me sort this problem. If you need further details I am 
ready to send you.


Thank you.

With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept.,
IISc, INDIA.







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Re: [gmx-users] angke definition

2011-10-05 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hey :)

Would g_sgangle be capable of what you want?

Otherwise, your best bet seems to be writing the atoms involved to an
easily readable format (.gro/.pdb) and do the math in Python. I can
send you a backbone Python script for reading .gro/.pdb trajectories
if you want.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Алексей Раевский rayevsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, i need your help again! this time in the selection of analyzing tools
 and methods... I've found a water molecule near one of the ligand atoms.
 It's stabile enough and the distance is about 3.3 A. But I want to make some
 measurments, exactly angle degree identification. I want to calculate the
 frequence of forming of angle (about 90 degree) between oxygen of the water
 and the plane (formed by the atom of the ligand and several atoms around (it
 is a first CA atom and carboxyl group CA-C-O-OH of aminoacid)). But a
 perpendicular from OW is connected exactly to C atom of carboxyl group. In
 other case gromacs is trying to calculate an angle between OW and the whole,
 unlimited plane... Can I do such analyze? Ormay be you can give me  some
 advices
 Thank you!
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Re: [gmx-users] angke definition

2011-10-05 Thread Mark Abraham

On 5/10/2011 7:28 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

Hey :)

Would g_sgangle be capable of what you want?

Otherwise, your best bet seems to be writing the atoms involved to an
easily readable format (.gro/.pdb) and do the math in Python. I can
send you a backbone Python script for reading .gro/.pdb trajectories
if you want.


Or g_traj -xvg none and a scripting language of choice.

Mark



Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Алексей Раевскийrayevsk...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi, i need your help again! this time in the selection of analyzing tools
and methods... I've found a water molecule near one of the ligand atoms.
It's stabile enough and the distance is about 3.3 A. But I want to make some
measurments, exactly angle degree identification. I want to calculate the
frequence of forming of angle (about 90 degree) between oxygen of the water
and the plane (formed by the atom of the ligand and several atoms around (it
is a first CA atom and carboxyl group CA-C-O-OH of aminoacid)). But a
perpendicular from OW is connected exactly to C atom of carboxyl group. In
other case gromacs is trying to calculate an angle between OW and the whole,
unlimited plane... Can I do such analyze? Ormay be you can give me  some
advices
Thank you!
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[gmx-users] NVT equilibration.

2011-10-05 Thread Ravi Kumar Venkatraman
Dear All,

 My commands where,

genconf_d -f ethanol.gro -o ethanol512.gro -nbox 8 8 8

editconf_d -f eth512.gro -density 785.22 -o den.gro

I saw the den.gro by using VMD. I saw only as points but not the
molecules.

EM:

grompp_d -f em.mdp -c den.gro -p ethanol.top -o em.tpr

mdrun_d -deffnm em

I saw em.gro using VMD. Now I see ethanol molecules arranged all over
thebox in order.


*With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept., IISc,
Bangalore, INDIA.

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[gmx-users] protein_model_refinement

2011-10-05 Thread shahid nayeem
Dear All
I am trying to refine a protein model which is a homodimer with each chain
having 609 residues.I tried minimizing in Chimera and then checking models
with procheck.Infact model quality deteriorated as far as Ramachandran plot
is concerned. Will doing MD simulation help me in Gromacs. It is a big
protein so long MD simulation is not possible. Short duration MD will be
insufficient to search native structure. I am stuck-up. Can anyone on this
list help me.
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[gmx-users] RE:Data Analysis

2011-10-05 Thread lloyd riggs

Dear All,

I woundered if anyone has scripts/tools or suggestions for analyzing energy 
changes from extracted run data.  Mostly I end up with 20 spread sheet columns 
for a large system with 2x2 domain proteins, a peptide of 10-20 amino acids and 
soome small molecules.  I've been playing with the data via xmgrace and 
qtiplot, and using formulas by hand via liturature.  I am also breaking things 
down into simplified energy runs (EQ via NPT 50 ps, then a simple MD for 2-5 
picosecounds with the systems components seperated in solvent, and the system 
components in a complex in solvent.  Then extended runs for one or two systems 
that look nice for different (structural and interaction based) analysis.

Mostly though I just woundered if anyone had scripts (Python, java, C++, 
etc...) for manipulation the extracted energy data and producing an output 
column for totals, or a summed single number output for varied energy 
components.  Mostly I found the Gromacs normal data manipulation (g_lie) works 
well with small molecules for a simple quick EQd run, but not for large 
proteins, etc...

Sincerely,

Stephan Lloyd Watkins
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[gmx-users] dihedral restraints documentation

2011-10-05 Thread David Mobley
Just a note concerning dihedral restraints documentation -- the function and
default behavior of dihre-fc needs to be documented somewhere in the manual.
I just spent a couple hours (and my student a couple of days!) trying to
track down the source of some crashes which ended up being due to the
difference between specifying

dihre-fc = 1

in our topology file, and not specifying anything at all.

THis how-to documents what dihre-fc DOES (
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Dihedral_Restraints) but it is
not mentioned anywhere in the gromacs manual at all. It turns out dihre-fc
defaults to 1000, so the difference between dihre-fc = 1 and omitting
dihre-fc is a factor of 1000 in dihedral restraint strength. This is enough
(since it's a multiplier!) to make the difference between simulations
reliably crashing and simulations not crashing at all...

This clearly should be documented in the manual since (with this behavior)
knowing what value of dihre-fc one is using is critical to knowing what
dihedral restraint strength one is using.

Thanks.


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[gmx-users] RE: NVT EQUILIBRATION

2011-10-05 Thread Dallas Warren
Keep the discussion to the emailing list please.

How many molecules that is required you can calculate yourself.  What is the 
density?  You know the volume, therefore you can calculate yourself how many 
molecules should be in that space, simple calculation.  You should also be able 
to eye ball based on the coordinate file you mentioned that was full of voids.  
If the voids take up about half of the box, you need roughly double the number 
of molecules, quarter, then you need 33% more.  Plus, you can do it via trial 
and error, but the density calculation is the way to go.

Catch ya,

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From: Ravi Kumar Venkatraman [mailto:ravikumarvenkatra...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2011 7:48 PM
To: Dallas Warren
Subject: NVT EQUILIBRATION

Dear Dallas Warren,
 Yes you are right. Pressure was going negative 
when I did NPT equilibration. So increasing # of molecules will help me. If at 
all tell me how many molecules I should have approximately.

Thank you for your help.

With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman.
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[gmx-users] Protein_model_refinement

2011-10-05 Thread shahid nayeem
Dear All
I want to refine a protein homology model, I did minimization but then
procheck does not give better Ramachandran plot. This model is a homodimer
with each chain of 609 residue and a total of 1218 residue so a long MD
simulation to search native state is not feasible. Can any one help me on
this list to tell that how should I attempt this problem.
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