[gmx-users] Regarding Minimization

2011-11-04 Thread Ravi Kumar Venkatraman
*Dear all,**
*
*I wanted to minimize the energy of a single molecule. How
emtol and emsteps I have to put to get optimised single molecule structure.*
*
*
*Thank you**
*
*
*
*With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept., IISc,
Bangalore, INDIA.

+91-9686933963.*
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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding Minimization

2011-11-04 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/11/2011 5:14 PM, Ravi Kumar Venkatraman wrote:

*Dear all,**
*
*I wanted to minimize the energy of a single molecule. How 
emtol and emsteps I have to put to get optimised single molecule 
structure.*



*
Set them to whatever size seems reasonable to you and leaves you with a 
result you want. See chapter 7 for description of the parameters.


Mark
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[gmx-users] FEP instability

2011-11-04 Thread David van der Spoel

Dear all,

I'm trying to FEP away a TIP4P water molecule from a water box in gmx 
4.5.3, but getting a jump in dH/dlambda after some time (around 100 ps), 
from around -5 to -600 kJ/mol/lambda. I'm using softcore with the 
following parameters:


sc-alpha = 0.5
sc-power = 1
sc-sigma = 0.3
delta-lambda = 0
init-lambda = 0.1
couple-lambda0 = vdw
couple-lambda1 = vdw-q
free-energy  = yes

I've also tried using
sc-alpha = 0
sc-power = 0

Any clues what could go wrong?

Could it be due to the virtual sites?

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[gmx-users] Shell MD

2011-11-04 Thread yiran870804

Dear sir:
 
Thank you for reading my letter. 
I have a few problems  in Shell MD

   . I do not know how to set the parameter in the*.mdp file of shell 
md.So I hope to obtain your help.
 And this is my own *.mdp file below

 
include  =
define   = 
integrator   = sd
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.004
nsteps   =  1000
simulation_part  = 1
init_step= 0
comm-mode nstcomm   = Linear
  = 100
comm-grps= System 
bd-fric  = 1
ld-seed  = 1993 
emtol= 10
emstep   = 0.01
niter= 20
fcstep   = 0
nstcgsteep   = 1000
nbfgscorr= 10 
rtpi = 0.05 
nstxout  = 100
nstvout  = 100
nstfout  = 100
nstlog   = 10
nstenergy= 10
nstxtcout= 10
xtc_precision= 10
xtc-grps =
energygrps   = CR1 
nstlist  = 1
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
periodic_molecules   = no  
rlist= 2.0 
coulombtype  = User
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 2.0
epsilon_r= 1
epsilon_rf   = 1
vdw_type = User
rvdw_switch  = 0.0
rvdw = 2.0
DispCorr = No
table_extension  = 0
energygrp_table  = CR1 CR1
fourierspacing   = 0.12
fourier_nx   = 0
fourier_ny   = 0
fourier_nz   = 0
pme_order= 4
ewald_rtol   = 1e-05
ewald_geometry   = 3d
epsilon_surface  = 0
optimize_fft = yes 
implicit_solvent = No 
gb_algorithm = Still
nstgbradii   = 1
rgbradii = 2
gb_epsilon_solvent   = 80
gb_saltconc  = 0
gb_obc_alpha = 1
gb_obc_beta  = 0.8
gb_obc_gamma = 4.85
sa_surface_tension   = 2.092 
tcoupl   = berendsen
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.3
ref_t= 800
Pcoupl   = no
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p= 1
compressibility  = 6.5e-5
ref_p= 5.0
refcoord_scaling = No
andersen_seed= 815131 
QMMM = no
QMMM-grps=
QMmethod =  
QMMMscheme   = normal
QMbasis  =
QMcharge =   
QMmult   =  
SH   =   
CASorbitals  =
CASelectrons =
SAon =
SAoff=
SAsteps  =
MMChargeScaleFactor  = 1
bOPT =
bTS  = 
annealing=
annealing_npoints=
annealing_time   =
annealing_temp   = 
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 313
gen-seed = 173529 
constraints  = none
constraint_algorithm = Lincs
continuation = no
Shake-SOR= no
shake-tol= 1e-04
lincs_order  = 4
lincs-iter   = 1
lincs_warnangle  = 30
morse= no 
energygrp_excl   = 
nwall= 0
wall_type= 9-3
wall_r_linpot= -1
wall_atomtype=
wall_density =
wall_ewald_zfac  = 3 
pull = no 
disre= No
disre-weighting  = Conservative
disre-mixed  = no
disre-fc = 1000
disre-tau= 0
nstdisreout  = 100
orire= no
orire-fc = 0
orire-tau= 0
orire-fitgrp =
nstorireout  = 100
dihre= no
dihre-fc = 1000 
free-energy  = no
init-lambda  = 0
delta-lambda = 0
sc-alpha = 0
sc-power = 0
sc-sigma = 0.3
couple-moltype   =
couple-lambda0   = vdw-q
couple-lambda1   = vdw-q
couple-intramol  = no 
acc-grps =
accelerate   =
freezegrps   =
freezedim=
cos-acceleration = 0
deform   = 
E-x  =
E-xt =
E-y  =
E-yt =
E-z  =
E-zt = 
user1-grps   =
user2-grps   =
userint1 = 0
userint2 = 0
userint3 = 0
userint4 = 0
userreal1= 0

[gmx-users] Shell MD

2011-11-04 Thread yiran870804

Dear sir:
 
Thank you for reading my letter. 
I have a few problems  in Shell MD

   . I do not know how to set the parameter in the*.mdp file of shell 
md.So I hope to obtain your help.
 And this is my own *.mdp file below

 
emtol= 10
emstep   = 0.01
niter= 20
fcstep   = 0
nstcgsteep   = 1000
nbfgscorr= 10 
rtpi = 0.05 
nstxout  = 100
nstvout  = 100
nstfout  = 100
nstlog   = 10
nstenergy= 10
nstxtcout= 10
xtc_precision= 10
xtc-grps =
energygrps   = CR1 
nstlist  = 1
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
periodic_molecules   = no  
rlist= 2.0 
Could you tell me which part of the parameter should be changed for Shell MD?
  
Your prompt attention to this letter would be highly appreciated.
 Thanks a lot.
 


   Liyan
   
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[gmx-users] Regarding Extension of the potential lookup tables

2011-11-04 Thread Ravi Kumar Venkatraman
*Dear All,
 Could anybody tell me what is the purpose of Extension of the
potential lookup tables beyond the cut-off. I have read somewhere that the
sum the smallest diagnol of the box and rlist should be equal to
table-extension. Please explain me the same.*

*With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept., IISc,
Bangalore, INDIA.

+91-9686933963.*
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[gmx-users] Regarding error in ion neutralization step

2011-11-04 Thread kirubakaran palani
Dear All

Could any one help me to solve this error in gromacs 4.5.5 version. I am
running dynamics on apo protein and the protein shows negative charge of -6
(after choosing OPLS-AA force filed) and when i was neutralizing the -6
with +6 and generating the genion.tpr file there it shows No such
moleculetype NA+ error. But the same protein was running with out any
error message in gromacs 4.0.7 version.

The error message was given below.

Kindly rectify the problem
===
[student@localhost gro]$ grompp -f em.mdp -p topol.top -c genion.gro -o
genem.tpr


Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.3#
Generated 332520 of the 332520 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 0.5
Generated 332520 of the 332520 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_A'
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1987

Fatal error:
No such moleculetype NA+
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
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[gmx-users] Regarding error in ion neutralization step

2011-11-04 Thread kirubakaran palani
Dear All

Could any one help me to solve this error in gromacs 4.5.5 version. I am
running dynamics on apo protein and the protein shows negative charge of -6
(after choosing OPLS-AA force filed) and when i was neutralizing the -6
with +6 and generating the genion.tpr file there it shows No such
moleculetype NA+ error. But the same protein was running with out any
error message in gromacs 4.0.7 version.

The error message was given below.

Kindly rectify the problem
===
[student@localhost gro]$ grompp -f em.mdp -p topol.top -c genion.gro -o
genem.tpr


Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.3#
Generated 332520 of the 332520 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 0.5
Generated 332520 of the 332520 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_A'
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1987

Fatal error:
No such moleculetype NA+
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---




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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding error in ion neutralization step

2011-11-04 Thread Mark Abraham

On 5/11/2011 1:05 AM, kirubakaran palani wrote:

Dear All

Could any one help me to solve this error in gromacs 4.5.5 version. I 
am running dynamics on apo protein and the protein shows negative 
charge of -6 (after choosing OPLS-AA force filed) and when i was 
neutralizing the -6 with +6 and generating the genion.tpr file there 
it shows No such moleculetype NA+ error. But the same protein was 
running with out any error message in gromacs 4.0.7 version.


The naming convention has changed. See share/top/oplsa.ff/ions.itp

Mark



The error message was given below.

Kindly rectify the problem
===
[student@localhost gro]$ grompp -f em.mdp -p topol.top -c genion.gro 
-o genem.tpr



Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.3#
Generated 332520 of the 332520 non-bonded parameter combinations
Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 0.5
Generated 332520 of the 332520 1-4 parameter combinations
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_chain_A'
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1987

Fatal error:
No such moleculetype NA+
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the 
GROMACS

website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---




Regards

Kirubakaran P





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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding Extension of the potential lookup tables

2011-11-04 Thread Mark Abraham

On 4/11/2011 10:41 PM, Ravi Kumar Venkatraman wrote:


*Dear All,
 Could anybody tell me what is the purpose of Extension of 
the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-off.*


Check out manual 7.3.12

*I have read somewhere that the sum the smallest diagnol of the box 
and rlist should be equal to table-extension. Please explain me the same.*


I doubt that you read that.

Mark



*With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept., IISc,
Bangalore, INDIA.

+91-9686933963.*





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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs query for vaccum medium

2011-11-04 Thread Anushree Tripathi
I have seen different articles on MD simulation in vaccum but i didn't get
the exact way for it.If u can tell me the exact way then i can proceed for
it fastly because I have to do it within certain time limit.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 4/11/2011 4:58 AM, Anushree Tripathi wrote:

 Let me know how to simulate a membrane protein in vaccum medium by using
 gromacs commands.What are the basic differences in commands as well as
 parameters used in liquid and vaccum medium? Please guide me.


 I suggest you do all the GROMACS tutorial material you can find, and
 supplement that with reading several published articles that do simulations
 with objectives similar to yours.

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[gmx-users] Thioester bond problem

2011-11-04 Thread alberto arrigoni
Dear Gromacs users,
I'm attempting to simulate a system composed of two proteins containing a
thioester bond between the C-terminus of chain A and a cysteine residue
from chain B.
I wonder if the parameters for this bond to be included in the .top
file exist. Also, I am having troubles figuring out how to include them,
since the thioester generates a branch between the two chains.
A possible strategy I have come up with is to use specbond.dat in order to
create a bond, and then try to add by hand the parameters in the .top file.
The problem with this would be to erase an hydroxyl group from the C
terminus and a hydrogen atom from the sulfidrilic group. Also, with
specbond.dat (even changing cutoffs) the target bond is not the only one
that is created by pdb2gmx, since unfortunately another cisteine is closely
located to a glicine residue (the same residue I have in C-terminus).
I am very grateful for any assistence you could provide.
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Re: [gmx-users] Steered MD in reverse direction?

2011-11-04 Thread Sanku M
Thanks for the suggestion.
 Also, I was wondering how one can get the time profile of the irreversible 
work from the gromacs pull-code out put . From constant pulling-rate SMD, we 
get time profile of force pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg. I wonder does multiplying 
the the value from pullx.xvg and value from pullf.xvg will provide the work . 
Or, will it be force ( obtained from pullf.xvg) multiplied by pulling rate 
multiplied by time ?



From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: Sanku M msank...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Steered MD in reverse direction?



Sanku M wrote:
 Hi,
   I am performing steered Molecular dynamics simulation to pull a molecule 
out of a complex. I am using gromacs 4.5.4 to perform the constant rate 
pulling..I have done the steered MD simulation in a particular direction i.e 
hav pulled the molecule out of complex.
 But, to check the convergence/hysterisis of the pulled path way, I would like 
 to perform the same steered MD in reverse direction i.e push the molecule 
 back into the complex. But, I was wondering, to perform the backward steered 
 MD, how should I modify the .mdp parameters?  Should I make the pull_rate1 
 negative or switch the pull_group0 and pull_group1 ?  Any help will be 
 appreciated.
 

Use a negative pull rate.  But simple pulling like this can be difficult; 
you're now trying to hit a moving target.  A slight rotation of the protein can 
render the whole simulation junk - your pulled molecule may smack into some 
undesired location.

-Justin

 The following is the part of the pull-code parameter I am using:
 ; Pull code
 pull            = umbrella
 pull_geometry   = distance  ; simple distance increase
 pull_dim        = N N Y
 pull_start      = yes       ; define initial COM distance  0
 pull_ngroups    = 1
 pull_group0     = Mol_A
 pull_group1     = Mol_B
 pull_rate1      = 0.0025      ; 0.01 nm per ps = 10 nm per ns
 pull_k1         = 1000      ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
  
 Sanku
 

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[gmx-users] PMF when pulling in -Z direction

2011-11-04 Thread nahren manuel
Dear Gromacs Users,

I am trying to study ligand unbinding adopting Umbrella sampling (using Gmx 
4.5.3). during my initial pull to generate configurations for umbrella windows 
I have pulled in the -Z direction, 

@ s0 legend 0 Z
@ s1 legend 1 dZ
0.    7.37361    -0.33625
0.0200    7.37377    -0.33631
0.0400    7.37404    -0.33637
0.0600    7.3744    -0.33643
0.0800    7.37473    -0.33649
.
.
.
.
321.0800    7.37523    -1.29949
321.1000    7.37442    -1.29955
321.1200    7.37374    -1.29961
321.1400    7.37355    -1.29967
321.1600    7.37404    -1.29973
321.1800    7.37491    -1.29979
321.2000    7.3757    -1.29985
321.2200    7.37608    -1.29991
321.2400    7.37595    -1.29997
321.2600    7.37518    -1.30003
321.2800    7.37395    -1.30009
.
.
.(so on)


Now when I ran simulations in each umbrella windows, the PMF energies are in 
negative.  My guess is that this is due to my initial setup, or is there 
something seriously wrong. And if i am right I should get the correct PMF by 
taking the negative of this PMF (or is it)??

-
; Pull code  (pulling simulation)
pull    = constraint
pull_geometry   = distance  
pull_dim    = N N Y
pull_start  = yes  
pull_ngroups    = 1
pull_group0 = Protein
pull_group1 = MAL
pull_rate1  = 0.005  ; 
pull_k1 = 1000  ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
pull_nstxout    = 500  ; every 1 ps
pull_nstfout    = 500  ; every 1 ps

-


; Pull code  (Umbrella simulation)
pull    = umbrella
pull_geometry   = distance  ; 
pull_dim    = Y Y Y
pull_start  = yes   ; 
pull_ngroups    = 1
pull_group0 = Protein
pull_group1 = MAL
pull_rate1  = 0.000  ; 
pull_k1 = 1000  ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
pull_nstxout    = 500  ; every 1 ps
pull_nstfout    = 500  ; every 1 ps


Best,
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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs query for vaccum medium

2011-11-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Anushree Tripathi wrote:
I have seen different articles on MD simulation in vaccum but i didn't 
get the exact way for it.If u can tell me the exact way then i can 
proceed for it fastly because I have to do it within certain time limit.




It would be useful if you were to describe what it is that you're trying to 
replicate, why you don't understand how to do it, and what you have tried. 
Implying urgency or time limits is not appropriate; we all have things that 
we're working on and we're all trying to make progress on our own projects (and 
some of us are nearing completion on dissertations).  The contributors to this 
list take time to offer free advice when they can.  They can do so effectively 
and efficiently with a clear statement of goals and specific questions.


-Justin

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 4/11/2011 4:58 AM, Anushree Tripathi wrote:

Let me know how to simulate a membrane protein in vaccum medium
by using gromacs commands.What are the basic differences in
commands as well as parameters used in liquid and vaccum medium?
Please guide me.


I suggest you do all the GROMACS tutorial material you can find, and
supplement that with reading several published articles that do
simulations with objectives similar to yours.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Thioester bond problem

2011-11-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



alberto arrigoni wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,
I'm attempting to simulate a system composed of two proteins containing 
a thioester bond between the C-terminus of chain A and a cysteine 
residue from chain B.
I wonder if the parameters for this bond to be included in the .top 
file exist. Also, I am having troubles figuring out how to include them, 
since the thioester generates a branch between the two chains.
A possible strategy I have come up with is to use specbond.dat in order 
to create a bond, and then try to add by hand the parameters in the .top 
file. The problem with this would be to erase an hydroxyl group from the 
C terminus and a hydrogen atom from the sulfidrilic group. Also, with 
specbond.dat (even changing cutoffs) the target bond is not the only 
one that is created by pdb2gmx, since unfortunately another cisteine is 
closely located to a glicine residue (the same residue I have in 
C-terminus).

I am very grateful for any assistence you could provide.



There are several things I can think of to try.  First, have you used the 
-chainsep ter option in pdb2gmx?  It shouldn't create termini based on chain 
identifiers, but rather on TER entries, which, if removed, don't create 
problems.  You can also use the -ter option to interactively select termini 
states, thus adding no terminal acid group atoms to the actual C-terminus of the 
first chain.


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[gmx-users] Regarding Extension of the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-of

2011-11-04 Thread Ravi Kumar Venkatraman
*Dear All,
 Ok, I don't remember the site. But please explain me about the
purpose of table extension.

Thank you
*
*With Regards,
Ravi Kumar Venkatraman,
IPC Dept., IISc,
Bangalore, INDIA.

+91-9686933963.*
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Re: [gmx-users] PMF when pulling in -Z direction

2011-11-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nahren manuel wrote:

Dear Gromacs Users,

I am trying to study ligand unbinding adopting Umbrella sampling (using 
Gmx 4.5.3). during my initial pull to generate configurations for 
umbrella windows I have pulled in the -Z direction,

@ s0 legend 0 Z
@ s1 legend 1 dZ
0.7.37361-0.33625
0.02007.37377-0.33631
0.04007.37404-0.33637
0.06007.3744-0.33643
0.08007.37473-0.33649
.
.
.
.
321.08007.37523-1.29949
321.10007.37442-1.29955
321.12007.37374-1.29961
321.14007.37355-1.29967
321.16007.37404-1.29973
321.18007.37491-1.29979
321.20007.3757-1.29985
321.22007.37608-1.29991
321.24007.37595-1.29997
321.26007.37518-1.30003
321.28007.37395-1.30009
.
.
.(so on)

Now when I ran simulations in each umbrella windows, the PMF energies 
are in negative.  My guess is that this is due to my initial setup, or 
is there something seriously wrong. And if i am right I should get the 
correct PMF by taking the negative of this PMF (or is it)??


So your PMF is negative, why is that a problem?  A negative binding energy 
indicates favorability of binding.


-Justin


-
; Pull code  (pulling simulation)
pull= constraint
pull_geometry   = distance 
pull_dim= N N Y
pull_start  = yes 
pull_ngroups= 1

pull_group0 = Protein
pull_group1 = MAL
pull_rate1  = 0.005  ;
pull_k1 = 1000  ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
pull_nstxout= 500  ; every 1 ps
pull_nstfout= 500  ; every 1 ps

-

; Pull code  (Umbrella simulation)
pull= umbrella
pull_geometry   = distance  ;
pull_dim= Y Y Y
pull_start  = yes   ;
pull_ngroups= 1
pull_group0 = Protein
pull_group1 = MAL
pull_rate1  = 0.000  ;
pull_k1 = 1000  ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
pull_nstxout= 500  ; every 1 ps
pull_nstfout= 500  ; every 1 ps


Best,
nahren








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Re: [gmx-users] Thioester bond problem

2011-11-04 Thread Yun Shi
Hi Alberto,

I used a stupid method to deal with this kind of non-standard moiety. You
can use AmberTools to parameterize your thioester, together with your
proteins, and then use acpype to convert they topology and coordinate files
to gromacs format. But I am not sure if you want to use amber force field.

Yun
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Re: [gmx-users] PMF when pulling in -Z direction

2011-11-04 Thread nahren manuel
Hi Justin,
If you observe my pulling simulation, you will see that the distances are 
(increasing) in the negative. 


Here is the PMF (image):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nahrenmascarenhas/6312990056/
this is not one expects in ligand unbinding. (of course these are from my 
initial simulations, approx. 1 ns runs in 5 windows)


Best,
nahren




From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: nahren manuel meetnah...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] PMF when pulling in -Z direction



nahren manuel wrote:
 Dear Gromacs Users,
 
 I am trying to study ligand unbinding adopting Umbrella sampling (using Gmx 
 4.5.3). during my initial pull to generate configurations for umbrella 
 windows I have pulled in the -Z direction,
 @ s0 legend 0 Z
 @ s1 legend 1 dZ
 0.    7.37361    -0.33625
 0.0200    7.37377    -0.33631
 0.0400    7.37404    -0.33637
 0.0600    7.3744    -0.33643
 0.0800    7.37473    -0.33649
 .
 .
 .
 .
 321.0800    7.37523    -1.29949
 321.1000    7.37442    -1.29955
 321.1200    7.37374    -1.29961
 321.1400    7.37355    -1.29967
 321.1600    7.37404    -1.29973
 321.1800    7.37491    -1.29979
 321.2000    7.3757    -1.29985
 321.2200    7.37608    -1.29991
 321.2400    7.37595    -1.29997
 321.2600    7.37518    -1.30003
 321.2800    7.37395    -1.30009
 .
 .
 .(so on)
 
 Now when I ran simulations in each umbrella windows, the PMF energies are in 
 negative.  My guess is that this is due to my initial setup, or is there 
 something seriously wrong. And if i am right I should get the correct PMF by 
 taking the negative of this PMF (or is it)??

So your PMF is negative, why is that a problem?  A negative binding energy 
indicates favorability of binding.

-Justin

 -
 ; Pull code  (pulling simulation)
 pull            = constraint
 pull_geometry   = distance     pull_dim        = N N Y
 pull_start      = yes         pull_ngroups    = 1
 pull_group0     = Protein
 pull_group1     = MAL
 pull_rate1      = 0.005          ;
 pull_k1         = 1000          ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
 pull_nstxout    = 500      ; every 1 ps
 pull_nstfout    = 500      ; every 1 ps
 
 -
 
 ; Pull code  (Umbrella simulation)
 pull            = umbrella
 pull_geometry   = distance      ;
 pull_dim        = Y Y Y
 pull_start      = yes           ;
 pull_ngroups    = 1
 pull_group0     = Protein
 pull_group1     = MAL
 pull_rate1      = 0.000          ;
 pull_k1         = 1000          ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
 pull_nstxout    = 500      ; every 1 ps
 pull_nstfout    = 500      ; every 1 ps
 
 
 Best,
 nahren
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [gmx-users] PMF when pulling in -Z direction

2011-11-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nahren manuel wrote:

Hi Justin,
If you observe my pulling simulation, you will see that the distances 
are (increasing) in the negative.




Exactly as you expect.  You're pulling along the -Z dimension, as you said 
before.  So the ligand is pulled from the protein to an increasingly negative 
position.



Here is the PMF (image):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nahrenmascarenhas/6312990056/
this is not one expects in ligand unbinding. (of course these are from 
my initial simulations, approx. 1 ns runs in 5 windows)




Don't base any conclusions on what you see.  The simulation time and number of 
windows are both woefully insufficient to make any reliable observations.  Only 
once you have done a proper set of umbrella sampling windows will you be able to 
tell what's going on.  You should also be doing error estimates when computing 
the PMF; I suspect the error bars will be as wild as the values in the PMF plot.


-Justin


Best,
nahren


*From:* Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
*To:* nahren manuel meetnah...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS 
users gmx-users@gromacs.org

*Sent:* Friday, November 4, 2011 7:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] PMF when pulling in -Z direction



nahren manuel wrote:
  Dear Gromacs Users,
 
  I am trying to study ligand unbinding adopting Umbrella sampling 
(using Gmx 4.5.3). during my initial pull to generate configurations for 
umbrella windows I have pulled in the -Z direction,

  @ s0 legend 0 Z
  @ s1 legend 1 dZ
  0.7.37361-0.33625
  0.02007.37377-0.33631
  0.04007.37404-0.33637
  0.06007.3744-0.33643
  0.08007.37473-0.33649
  .
  .
  .
  .
  321.08007.37523-1.29949
  321.10007.37442-1.29955
  321.12007.37374-1.29961
  321.14007.37355-1.29967
  321.16007.37404-1.29973
  321.18007.37491-1.29979
  321.20007.3757-1.29985
  321.22007.37608-1.29991
  321.24007.37595-1.29997
  321.26007.37518-1.30003
  321.28007.37395-1.30009
  .
  .
  .(so on)
 
  Now when I ran simulations in each umbrella windows, the PMF energies 
are in negative.  My guess is that this is due to my initial setup, or 
is there something seriously wrong. And if i am right I should get the 
correct PMF by taking the negative of this PMF (or is it)??


So your PMF is negative, why is that a problem?  A negative binding 
energy indicates favorability of binding.


-Justin

  -
  ; Pull code  (pulling simulation)
  pull= constraint
  pull_geometry  = distancepull_dim= N N Y
  pull_start  = yespull_ngroups= 1
  pull_group0= Protein
  pull_group1= MAL
  pull_rate1  = 0.005  ;
  pull_k1= 1000  ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
  pull_nstxout= 500  ; every 1 ps
  pull_nstfout= 500  ; every 1 ps
 
  -
 
  ; Pull code  (Umbrella simulation)
  pull= umbrella
  pull_geometry  = distance  ;
  pull_dim= Y Y Y
  pull_start  = yes  ;
  pull_ngroups= 1
  pull_group0= Protein
  pull_group1= MAL
  pull_rate1  = 0.000  ;
  pull_k1= 1000  ; kJ mol^-1 nm^-2
  pull_nstxout= 500  ; every 1 ps
  pull_nstfout= 500  ; every 1 ps
 
 
  Best,
  nahren
 
 
 
 
 
 

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[gmx-users] query for energy minimization in solvent

2011-11-04 Thread Anushree Tripathi
when i run the given command i.e,

grompp -f minim.mdp -c 1AKI_solv_ions.gro -p topol.top -o em.tpr
It is showing fatal error:No such molecule type NA.
How could I troubleshoot this problem?
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Re: [gmx-users] query for energy minimization in solvent

2011-11-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Anushree Tripathi wrote:

when i run the given command i.e,

grompp -f minim.mdp -c 1AKI_solv_ions.gro -p topol.top -o em.tpr
It is showing fatal error:No such molecule type NA.
How could I troubleshoot this problem?



Ion naming is listed in ions.itp - the NA name works for all force fields in 
the Gromacs 4.5.x series.  Older versions had force field-specific naming so you 
will have to change the name accordingly if you're using one of these versions.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding Extension of the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-of

2011-11-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Ravi Kumar Venkatraman wrote:

*Dear All,
 Ok, I don't remember the site. But please explain me about 
the purpose of table extension.


Please refer to http://manual.gromacs.org/online/mdp_opt.html#table and the 
manual, section 6.7.2.


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Re: [gmx-users] Regarding Extension of the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-of

2011-11-04 Thread Mark Abraham

On 5/11/2011 5:35 AM, Ravi Kumar Venkatraman wrote:

*Dear All,
 Ok, I don't remember the site. But please explain me 
about the purpose of table extension.

*


Sorry, I have other things to do than refute statements that you can't 
attribute, when you don't appear to have managed to read the manual 
reference I gave you last time.


Mark
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[gmx-users] B-factor to large? Input for TLS

2011-11-04 Thread Henri Mone
Dear Gromacs Users and Experts,

I want to calculate from my xtc trajectory the B-factor and the
anisotropic temperature factor.  I'm using following gromacs command:

$ g_rmsf -f traj.xtc -o rmsf.xvg -oq bfac.pdb -ox bfac2.pdb -s structure.pdb

I want to input the resulting PDB file to the TLS Server [1] to
calculate the hinge residues for my system.
The B-factor which g_rmsf is calculating seem to be to large, they
are in the range of 2000 to 6000  (last column without the 1.00
prefix) [2].
The website [3] suggests that a reasonable  B-factor should is in the
range of 21 to 200. Also the TLS server [1] complains that the
b-factors are in the wrong range. I did several test but I have no
idea what Im doing wrong. The trajectory is with 250ns long enough to
get for my small system a convergence on the B-factor.
- I thought it could be a unit problem, what are the B-factor units
which g_rmsf uses? Could this cause such an huge difference in the
b-factor?
- What is the standard unit for the b-factor in the PDB definition
(from the PDB database)?
- What is a realistic range for the b-factor?
- What else could be the error source, what am I doing wrong?


Thanks, any help is welcome,
Henrey

---1: TLSMD SERVER
http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/~tlsmd/



---2: bfac2.pdb :
...
ATOM   6146  N   GLY   435  97.841  52.072  37.712  1.006712.85
ATOM   6147  HN  GLY   435  97.972  52.020  37.437  1.006676.79
ATOM   6148  CA  GLY   435  97.953  52.003  37.883  1.006739.30
ATOM   6149  HA1 GLY   435  97.975  51.822  37.563  1.006956.61
ATOM   6150  HA2 GLY   435  97.554  52.041  37.972  1.007042.78
ATOM   6151  C   GLY   435  98.601  52.111  38.350  1.006210.20
ATOM   6152  O   GLY   435  98.552  51.909  38.905  1.006278.92
ATOM   6153  N   ASN   436  99.235  52.437  38.127  1.005772.75
ATOM   6154  HN  ASN   436  99.262  52.602  37.668  1.005803.67
ATOM   6155  CA  ASN   436  99.904  52.574  38.508  1.005343.12
ATOM   6156  HA  ASN   436  99.947  52.400  38.918  1.005671.18
ATOM   6157  CB  ASN   436 100.537  52.527  37.948  1.005355.63
ATOM   6158  HB1 ASN   436 100.960  52.556  38.127  1.005098.00
ATOM   6159  HB2 ASN   436 100.553  52.657  37.601  1.005272.78
ATOM   6160  CG  ASN   436 100.587  52.258  37.586  1.006031.62
ATOM   6161  OD1 ASN   436 100.582  52.138  37.675  1.006435.18
ATOM   6162  ND2 ASN   436 100.641  52.163  37.176  1.006306.09
ATOM   6163 1HD2 ASN   436 100.689  51.993  36.928  1.006834.63
ATOM   6164 2HD2 ASN   436 100.652  52.264  37.117  1.006062.64
ATOM   6165  C   ASN   436  99.947  53.023  38.917  1.004590.56
ATOM   6166  O   ASN   436  99.651  53.240  38.597  1.004290.70
...

---3: B-factor range at 3 Å resolution
http://www.p212121.com/2009/04/12/b-factor-range-3-resolution/
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[gmx-users] How to calculate work

2011-11-04 Thread Sanku M
Hi,
I am performing steered MD simulation using gromacs.
 I was wondering how one can get the time profile of the irreversible work from 
the gromacs pull-code out put . From constant pulling-rate SMD, we get time 
profile of force pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg. I wonder does multiplying the the 
value from pullx.xvg and value from pullf.xvg will provide the work . Or, will 
it be force ( obtained from pullf.xvg) multiplied by pulling rate multiplied by 
time ?

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Re: [gmx-users] How to calculate work

2011-11-04 Thread Sai Kumar Ramadugu
Hi Sanku,
I was using the pullf.xvg and multiplying it with pulling rate and time.
f*v*dt = W
and getting the total work for each SMD simulation.

I'm not sure if this is the best/correct way to do it. But from original
Jarzynski's article (PRL (2007) 78(14), 2690-2693) this is what I deduced.
I asked this question but I think very few users of Gromacs do Jarzynski
Equality (JE) to get free energy differences.

If anyone can comment on this, it will be useful for the community.

PS: If you use AMBER, it gives the work profile as the output. You can use
the total work which is printed at the last line of the output and get the
exponential average of beta*W.

PPS: May be you are aware of this issue, but the JE suffers from the fact
that you do the exponential average and the smaller work values determine
everything.


Regards
Sai



On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Sanku M msank...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I am performing steered MD simulation using gromacs.
  I was wondering how one can get the time profile of the irreversible work
 from the gromacs pull-code out put . From constant pulling-rate SMD, we get
 time profile of force pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg. I wonder does multiplying
 the the value from pullx.xvg and value from pullf.xvg will provide the work
 . Or, will it be force ( obtained from pullf.xvg) multiplied by pulling
 rate multiplied by time ?
 Sanku

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