Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Shima Arasteh
I edited the grompp output and sent it to you. Bring that again here:
  Generated 21528 of the 21528 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 18355 of the 21528 1-4 parameter combinations

 ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
      No default Bond types


 ERROR 2 [file topol.top, line 1698]:
      No default U-B types


 ERROR 3 [file topol.top, line 1699]:
      No default U-B types


 ERROR 4 [file topol.top, line 2345]:
      No default Proper Dih. types


 ERROR 5 [file topol.top, line 2346]:
      No default Proper Dih. types

 ERROR 6 [file topol.top, line 3278]:
      No default Improper Dih. types

And wrote line 414 is :
line 414 of topol.tp:
   [bonds]
         1     2     1



Sincerely,
Shima



From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users  
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 31/07/2012 7:16 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
> Wow!  That was a fabulous explanation given to me. Thanks dear Mark! :-)
>
> I regenerated the topol.top to check the correctness of input and FF files. 
> Some output has been changed however a little bit. Now, I bring you all was 
> needed again:
>
>> 1. rtp entry
>>
>> [ FVAL ]
>   [ atoms ]
>      CN    C     0.357    0
>      ON    O    -0.51    1
>      H1    HA    0.100    2
>      N    NH1    -0.423    3
>      HN    H    0.333    4
>      CA    CT1    0.034    5
>      HA    HB    0.09    6
>      CB    CT1    -0.093    7
>      HB    HA    0.09    8
>      CG1    CT3    -0.268    9
>      HG11    HA    0.09    10
>      HG12    HA    0.09    11
>      HG13    HA    0.09    12
>      CG2    CT3    -0.268    13
>      HG21    HA    0.09    14
>      HG22    HA    0.09    15
>      HG23    HA    0.09    16
>      C    C    0.528    17
>      O    O    -0.510    18
>   [ bonds ]
>      CN    H1
>      CN    ON
>      CN    N
>      N    HN
>      CA    N
>      CA    HA
>      CA    C
>      C    O
>      CA    CB
>      CB    HB
>      CB    CG1
>      CB    CG2
>      CG2    HG21
>      CG2    HG22
>      CG2    HG23
>      CG1    HG11
>      CG1    HG12
>      CG1    HG13
>      
>   [ impropers ]
>      CN     N    ON    H1
>
>> 2. hdb entry
> In which file?
> *aminoacids.hdb
>
>
>> FVAL    6
>> 1    1    H1    CN    N    ON
> This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...
>
>> 1    1    HN    N    C    CA
>> 1    5    HA    CA    N    C    CB
>> 1    5    HB    CB    CA    CG1    CG2
>> 3    4    HG1    CG1    CB    CA
>> 3    4    HG2    CG2    CB    CA
>>
>> 3. N-terminal fragment
>> HETATM    1  CN  FVAL    1      -0.721   1.600   1.249
>> HETATM    2  ON  FVAL    1      -0.839   2.806   1.453
>> ATOM      3  N   FVAL    1      -1.227   0.728   2.125
>> ATOM      4  CA  FVAL    1      -1.918   1.159   3.323
>> ATOM      5  C   FVAL    1      -1.969   2.678   3.410
>> ATOM      6  O   FVAL    1      -0.931   3.335   3.447
>> ATOM      7  CB  FVAL    1      -1.219   0.644   4.576
>> ATOM      8  CG1 FVAL    1       0.208   1.178   4.618
>> ATOM      9  CG2 FVAL    1      -1.976   1.118   5.812
>>
>> 4. pdb2gmx command
>> #pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter
>>
>> 5. pdb2gmx output
> Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff
>
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
> Reading monomer.pdb...
> Read 177 atoms
> Analyzing pdb file
> Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
> There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms
>
>    chain  #res #atoms
>    1 ' '    24    177
>
> All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
> Atomtype 1
> Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.rtp
> Residue 42
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.rtp
> Residue 46
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.rtp
> Residue 82
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.rtp
> Residue 86
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.hdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.hdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.hdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.hdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.n.tdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.n.tdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.c.tdb
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.c.tdb
>
> Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.2#
> Processing chain 1 (177 atom

Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 31/07/2012 7:16 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Wow!  That was a fabulous explanation given to me. Thanks dear Mark! :-)

I regenerated the topol.top to check the correctness of input and FF files. 
Some output has been changed however a little bit. Now, I bring you all was 
needed again:


1. rtp entry

[ FVAL ]

  [ atoms ]
 CNC 0.3570
 ONO-0.511
 H1HA0.1002
 NNH1-0.4233
 HNH0.3334
 CACT10.0345
 HAHB0.096
 CBCT1-0.0937
 HBHA0.098
 CG1CT3-0.2689
 HG11HA0.0910
 HG12HA0.0911
 HG13HA0.0912
 CG2CT3-0.26813
 HG21HA0.0914
 HG22HA0.0915
 HG23HA0.0916
 CC0.52817
 OO-0.51018
  [ bonds ]
 CNH1
 CNON
 CNN
 NHN
 CAN
 CAHA
 CAC
 CO
 CACB
 CBHB
 CBCG1
 CBCG2
 CG2HG21
 CG2HG22
 CG2HG23
 CG1HG11
 CG1HG12
 CG1HG13
  
  [ impropers ]

 CN NONH1


2. hdb entry

In which file?
*aminoacids.hdb



FVAL6
11H1CNNON

This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...


11HNNCCA
15HACANCCB
15HBCBCACG1CG2
34HG1CG1CBCA
34HG2CG2CBCA

3. N-terminal fragment
HETATM1  CN  FVAL1  -0.721   1.600   1.249
HETATM2  ON  FVAL1  -0.839   2.806   1.453
ATOM  3  N   FVAL1  -1.227   0.728   2.125
ATOM  4  CA  FVAL1  -1.918   1.159   3.323
ATOM  5  C   FVAL1  -1.969   2.678   3.410
ATOM  6  O   FVAL1  -0.931   3.335   3.447
ATOM  7  CB  FVAL1  -1.219   0.644   4.576
ATOM  8  CG1 FVAL1   0.208   1.178   4.618
ATOM  9  CG2 FVAL1  -1.976   1.118   5.812

4. pdb2gmx command
#pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter

5. pdb2gmx output

Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
Reading monomer.pdb...
Read 177 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms

   chain  #res #atoms
   1 ' '24177

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Residue 42
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.rtp
Residue 46
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.rtp
Residue 82
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.rtp
Residue 86
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.2#
Processing chain 1 (177 atoms, 24 residues)
Identified residue FVAL1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue GLY24 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Select start terminus type for FVAL-1
  0: NH3+
  1: NH2
  2: None
2
Start terminus FVAL-1: None
Select end terminus type for GLY-24
  0: COO-
  1: COOH
  2: CT2
  3: CT3
  4: None
0
End terminus GLY-24: COO-
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms
Now there are 24 residues with 360 atoms
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 362, now 362
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Before cleaning: 925 pairs
Before cleaning: 930 dihedrals
Keeping all generated dihedrals
Making cmap torsions...There are   22 cmap torsion pairs
There are  930 dihedrals,   49 impropers,  644 angles
916 pairs,  362 bonds and 0 virtual sites
Total mass 2510.906 a.m.u.
Total charge 1.000 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre.itp to ./#posre.itp.1#

Writing coordinate file...

Back Off! I just backed up monomer.gro to ./#monomer.gro.1#
  

Re: [gmx-users] Linear Interaction energy calculations

2012-07-30 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/30/12 5:15 PM, sai nitin wrote:

Dear all,

I recently started protein ligand simulation using gromacs my aim is
to calculate binding free energies after simulations...I adapted
justin tutorial
and  done 10 ns MD simulations using CHARMM FF and now going through
LIE (Linear Interaction Energie method) g_lie in gromacs..

And came across that to perform LIE using gromacs involves two MD
simulations one with protein - ligand simulation in solvent (which i
finished)..and another with ligand only in solution in this step i got
stuck can any body tell or suggest some tutorials to perform MD
simulations for only ligand



It's nothing more than a simulation of a solute in water.  Prepare a coordinate 
file of the ligand, solvate in some suitable box, and proceed.  If you're 
already run a simulation of a protein in complex with the ligand, then you have 
the ligand's topology.  From that, construction of a .top is trivial, i.e.:


#include "whatever.ff/forcefield.itp"

#include "ligand.itp"

#include "whatever.ff/whatever_water_model.itp"

#include "whatever.ff/ions.itp"

[ system ]
ligand in water

[ molecules ]
LIG 1
SOL X
(ions if necessary)

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] About EM Error (simulation exploding)

2012-07-30 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/30/12 1:07 PM, vidhya sankar wrote:

Dear Justin, Thank you for your Previous Reply.
  I have got the following Error in EM using steepest 
Descent method in   gromacs

Warning: 1-4 interaction between 4728 and 4733 at distance 3.030 which is 
larger than the 1-4 table size 3.000 nm
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
or with user tables increase the table size



If energy minimization fails, then there is something unphysical about the 
starting geometry that cannot be resolved.  Note that 3.0 nm is a very long 
distance for a normal 1-4 interactions.  What are these atoms and why are they 
linked by 3 bonds?



I know That my System  is exploding .I have checked that my ouput .gro file in 
VMD there is No error . in my system. Then What KInd of Physical Parameter  
lead to  error
My box size is

./editconf_d -f 1OG2O.gro   -o 1OG2Onewbox1.gro-center 7.0 8.0 7.0  -box 
14.0 16.0 14.0

my Em.mdp file as follows
integrator  = steep
emtol   = 1000
emstep  = 0.01
constraints = none
nsteps  = 5
nstlist = 1
ns_type = grid
rlist   = 2.0
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb= 2.0
rvdw= 2.0
pbc = xyz




The cutoff values seem arbitrary.  There is no force field in Gromacs that uses 
2.0 nm for short-range nonbonded cutoffs.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Shima Arasteh
Wow!  That was a fabulous explanation given to me. Thanks dear Mark! :-)

I regenerated the topol.top to check the correctness of input and FF files. 
Some output has been changed however a little bit. Now, I bring you all was 
needed again:

> 1. rtp entry
>
>[ FVAL ]
 [ atoms ]
    CN    C     0.357    0
    ON    O    -0.51    1
    H1    HA    0.100    2
    N    NH1    -0.423    3
    HN    H    0.333    4
    CA    CT1    0.034    5
    HA    HB    0.09    6
    CB    CT1    -0.093    7
    HB    HA    0.09    8
    CG1    CT3    -0.268    9
    HG11    HA    0.09    10
    HG12    HA    0.09    11
    HG13    HA    0.09    12
    CG2    CT3    -0.268    13
    HG21    HA    0.09    14
    HG22    HA    0.09    15
    HG23    HA    0.09    16
    C    C    0.528    17
    O    O    -0.510    18
 [ bonds ]
    CN    H1
    CN    ON
    CN    N
    N    HN
    CA    N
    CA    HA
    CA    C
    C    O
    CA    CB
    CB    HB
    CB    CG1
    CB    CG2
    CG2    HG21
    CG2    HG22
    CG2    HG23
    CG1    HG11
    CG1    HG12
    CG1    HG13
     
 [ impropers ]
    CN     N    ON    H1

> 2. hdb entry

In which file?
*aminoacids.hdb


> FVAL    6
> 1    1    H1    CN    N    ON

This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...

> 1    1    HN    N    C    CA
> 1    5    HA    CA    N    C    CB
> 1    5    HB    CB    CA    CG1    CG2
> 3    4    HG1    CG1    CB    CA
> 3    4    HG2    CG2    CB    CA
>
> 3. N-terminal fragment
> HETATM    1  CN  FVAL    1      -0.721   1.600   1.249
> HETATM    2  ON  FVAL    1      -0.839   2.806   1.453
> ATOM      3  N   FVAL    1      -1.227   0.728   2.125
> ATOM      4  CA  FVAL    1      -1.918   1.159   3.323
> ATOM      5  C   FVAL    1      -1.969   2.678   3.410
> ATOM      6  O   FVAL    1      -0.931   3.335   3.447
> ATOM      7  CB  FVAL    1      -1.219   0.644   4.576
> ATOM      8  CG1 FVAL    1       0.208   1.178   4.618
> ATOM      9  CG2 FVAL    1      -1.976   1.118   5.812
>
> 4. pdb2gmx command
> #pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter
>
> 5. pdb2gmx output

Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
Reading monomer.pdb...
Read 177 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms

  chain  #res #atoms
  1 ' '    24    177  

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Residue 42
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.rtp
Residue 46
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.rtp
Residue 82
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.rtp
Residue 86
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.2#
Processing chain 1 (177 atoms, 24 residues)
Identified residue FVAL1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue GLY24 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Select start terminus type for FVAL-1
 0: NH3+
 1: NH2
 2: None
2
Start terminus FVAL-1: None
Select end terminus type for GLY-24
 0: COO-
 1: COOH
 2: CT2
 3: CT3
 4: None
0
End terminus GLY-24: COO-
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms
Now there are 24 residues with 360 atoms
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 362, now 362
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Before cleaning: 925 pairs
Before cleaning: 930 dihedrals
Keeping all generated dihedrals
Making cmap torsions...There are   22 cmap torsion pairs
There are  930 dihedrals,   49 impropers,  644 angles
   916 pairs,  362 bonds and 0 virtual sites
Total mass 2510.906 a.m.u.
Total charge 1.000 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre.itp to ./#posre.itp.1#

Writing coordinate file...

Back Off! I just backed up monomer.gro to ./#monomer.gro.1#
    - PLEASE NOTE 
You have 

[gmx-users] Linear Interaction energy calculations

2012-07-30 Thread sai nitin
Dear all,

I recently started protein ligand simulation using gromacs my aim is
to calculate binding free energies after simulations...I adapted
justin tutorial
and  done 10 ns MD simulations using CHARMM FF and now going through
LIE (Linear Interaction Energie method) g_lie in gromacs..

And came across that to perform LIE using gromacs involves two MD
simulations one with protein - ligand simulation in solvent (which i
finished)..and another with ligand only in solution in this step i got
stuck can any body tell or suggest some tutorials to perform MD
simulations for only ligand

Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] About EM Error (simulation exploding)

2012-07-30 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear Justin, Thank you for your Previous Reply.
 I have got the following Error in EM using steepest 
Descent method in   gromacs 

Warning: 1-4 interaction between 4728 and 4733 at distance 3.030 which is 
larger than the 1-4 table size 3.000 nm
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
or with user tables increase the table size

I know That my System  is exploding .I have checked that my ouput .gro file in 
VMD there is No error . in my system. Then What KInd of Physical Parameter  
lead to  error
My box size is 

./editconf_d -f 1OG2O.gro   -o 1OG2Onewbox1.gro    -center 7.0 8.0 7.0  -box 
14.0 16.0 14.0

my Em.mdp file as follows
integrator  = steep 
emtol   = 1000    
emstep  = 0.01 
constraints = none
nsteps  = 5
nstlist = 1    
ns_type = grid 
rlist   = 2.0  
coulombtype = PME  
rcoulomb    = 2.0 
rvdw    = 2.0  
pbc = xyz   


Is there is any contradiction. between box Size and .mdp parameters


I am sure There is No error in .top and .gro file
Then what could be the Source of error
Thanks in Advance
With Regards 

S.Vidhyasankar
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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 30/07/2012 8:49 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:


  

If you want further help, you will need to paste your .rtp entry(s), the 
N-terminal fragment of your pdb2gmx -f input, pdb2gmx command line, full pdb2gmx 
output, the N-terminal fragment of the grompp -c input, grompp >command line, 
and full grompp output. You may think your context is clear, but nobody else is 
paying your problem as much attention as you are. I won't help further if you only 
provide partial information.

1. rtp entry

[ FVAL ]
  [ atoms ]
 CNC 0.3570
 ONO-0.511
 H1HA0.1002
 NNH1-0.4233
 HNH0.3334
 CACT10.0345
 HAHB0.096
 CBCT1-0.0937
 HBHA0.098
 CG1CT3-0.2689
 HG11HA0.0910
 HG12HA0.0911
 HG13HA0.0912
 CG2CT3-0.26813
 HG21HA0.0914
 HG22HA0.0915
 HG23HA0.0916
 CC0.52817
 OO-0.51018
  [ bonds ]
 CNH1
 CNON
 CNN
 NHN
 CAN
 CAHA
 CAC
 CO
 CACB
 CBHB
 CBCG1
 CBCG2
 CG2HG21
 CG2HG22
 CG2HG23
 CG1HG11
 CG1HG12
 CG1HG13grompp -f ions.mdp -c monomer_solv.gro -p topol.top -o ions.tpr
  
  [ impropers ]

 CN NONH1

2. hdb entry


In which file?


FVAL6
11H1CNNON


This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...


11HNNCCA
15HACANCCB
15HBCBCACG1CG2
34HG1CG1CBCA
34HG2CG2CBCA

3. N-terminal fragment
HETATM1  CN  FVAL1  -0.721   1.600   1.249
HETATM2  ON  FVAL1  -0.839   2.806   1.453
ATOM  3  N   FVAL1  -1.227   0.728   2.125
ATOM  4  CA  FVAL1  -1.918   1.159   3.323
ATOM  5  C   FVAL1  -1.969   2.678   3.410
ATOM  6  O   FVAL1  -0.931   3.335   3.447
ATOM  7  CB  FVAL1  -1.219   0.644   4.576
ATOM  8  CG1 FVAL1   0.208   1.178   4.618
ATOM  9  CG2 FVAL1  -1.976   1.118   5.812

4. pdb2gmx command
#pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter

5. pdb2gmx output
Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
Reading monomer.pdb...
Read 177 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms

   chain  #res #atoms
   1 ' '24177

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Residue 42
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.rtp
Residue 46
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.rtp
Residue 82
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.rtp
Residue 86
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.hdb


... and here's your .hdb file being picked up (and pdb2gmx must have 
found definitions for building hydrogens for FVAL somehow)...



Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.1#
Processing chain 1 (177 atoms, 24 residues)
Identified residue FVAL1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue GLY24 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Select start terminus type for FVAL-1
  0: NH3+
  1: NH2
  2: None
2
Start terminus FVAL-1: None
Select end terminus type for GLY-24
  0: COO-
  1: COOH
  2: CT2
  3: CT3
  4: None
0
End terminus GLY-24: COO-
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms
Now there are 24 residues with 360 atoms
Making bonds...
Warning: Long Bond (1-18 = 0.357049 nm)


...but H1 is built as atom 18 and too far away...


Number of bonds was 361, now 361
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Before cleani

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs installation

2012-07-30 Thread rama david
Thank you M.ark..
I got following reply..

Fatal error :
mdrun -multi is not supported with thread library .Please compile
gromacs with MPI support.

I have to try to compile gromacs as per the webpage instructions...


With best wishes and regards..
Rama David..
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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs installation

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 30/07/2012 8:34 PM, rama david wrote:

thank you for immediate reply...
Suppose, If I installed from Fedora software packages
How to check that  Gromacs installed in Parallel version and can
performed REMD


Make topol0.tpr and topol1.tpr as copies of the same .tpr file, and run

mpirun mdrun_mpi -multi 2 -replex 10

It won't do REMD, but it'll complain about the temperatures being the 
same, which serves to test that REMD will work.


Or just set up a proper REMD system and try it. See manual and webpage 
advice.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Shima Arasteh


 
>If you want further help, you will need to paste your .rtp entry(s), the 
>N-terminal fragment of your pdb2gmx -f input, pdb2gmx command line, full 
>pdb2gmx output, the N-terminal fragment of the grompp -c input, grompp 
>>command line, and full grompp output. You may think your context is clear, 
>but nobody else is paying your problem as much attention as you are. I won't 
>help further if you only provide partial information.

1. rtp entry

[ FVAL ]
 [ atoms ]
    CN    C     0.357    0
    ON    O    -0.51    1
    H1    HA    0.100    2
    N    NH1    -0.423    3
    HN    H    0.333    4
    CA    CT1    0.034    5
    HA    HB    0.09    6
    CB    CT1    -0.093    7
    HB    HA    0.09    8
    CG1    CT3    -0.268    9
    HG11    HA    0.09    10
    HG12    HA    0.09    11
    HG13    HA    0.09    12
    CG2    CT3    -0.268    13
    HG21    HA    0.09    14
    HG22    HA    0.09    15
    HG23    HA    0.09    16
    C    C    0.528    17
    O    O    -0.510    18
 [ bonds ]
    CN    H1
    CN    ON
    CN    N
    N    HN
    CA    N
    CA    HA
    CA    C
    C    O
    CA    CB
    CB    HB
    CB    CG1
    CB    CG2
    CG2    HG21
    CG2    HG22
    CG2    HG23
    CG1    HG11
    CG1    HG12
    CG1    HG13grompp -f ions.mdp -c monomer_solv.gro -p topol.top -o ions.tpr
     
 [ impropers ]
    CN     N    ON    H1

2. hdb entry

FVAL    6
1    1    H1    CN    N    ON
1    1    HN    N    C    CA
1    5    HA    CA    N    C    CB
1    5    HB    CB    CA    CG1    CG2
3    4    HG1    CG1    CB    CA
3    4    HG2    CG2    CB    CA

3. N-terminal fragment
HETATM    1  CN  FVAL    1  -0.721   1.600   1.249
HETATM    2  ON  FVAL    1  -0.839   2.806   1.453
ATOM  3  N   FVAL    1  -1.227   0.728   2.125
ATOM  4  CA  FVAL    1  -1.918   1.159   3.323
ATOM  5  C   FVAL    1  -1.969   2.678   3.410
ATOM  6  O   FVAL    1  -0.931   3.335   3.447
ATOM  7  CB  FVAL    1  -1.219   0.644   4.576
ATOM  8  CG1 FVAL    1   0.208   1.178   4.618
ATOM  9  CG2 FVAL    1  -1.976   1.118   5.812

4. pdb2gmx command
#pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter

5. pdb2gmx output
Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
Reading monomer.pdb...
Read 177 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms

  chain  #res #atoms
  1 ' '    24    177  

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Residue 42
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.rtp
Residue 46
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.rtp
Residue 82
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.rtp
Residue 86
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.hdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.n.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.c.tdb
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.1#
Processing chain 1 (177 atoms, 24 residues)
Identified residue FVAL1 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue GLY24 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Select start terminus type for FVAL-1
 0: NH3+
 1: NH2
 2: None
2
Start terminus FVAL-1: None
Select end terminus type for GLY-24
 0: COO-
 1: COOH
 2: CT2
 3: CT3
 4: None
0
End terminus GLY-24: COO-
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms
Now there are 24 residues with 360 atoms
Making bonds...
Warning: Long Bond (1-18 = 0.357049 nm)
Number of bonds was 361, now 361
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Before cleaning: 920 pairs
Before cleaning: 925 dihedrals
Keeping all generated dihedrals
Making cmap torsions...There are   22 cmap torsion pairs
There are  925 dihedrals,   49 impropers,  642 angles
   911 pairs,  361 bonds and 0 virtual sites
Total mass 2510.906 a.m.u.
Total charge 1.000 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre.it

Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs installation

2012-07-30 Thread rama david
thank you for immediate reply...
Suppose, If I installed from Fedora software packages
How to check that  Gromacs installed in Parallel version and can
performed REMD



Thank you in Advance..
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Re: [gmx-users] a problem using g_sgangle

2012-07-30 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/30/12 5:55 AM, Za Pour wrote:

Dear gmx users
I am trying to analyze the results of my simulations. a system
including one CNT+12 small molecules.I would like to know the distribution
of angles formed by  these 12 small molecules around CNT.I have found from 
manual that
g_sgangle may do that however, in the manual has been said that groups in this 
program
  are defined by a number of atoms given in an index file and may be two or 
three atoms in
size. but my small molecule has 60 atoms.would you please tell me is there any 
way I can
solve the problem.


Your index file has to contain atoms for which an angle can be measured.  It 
can't contain all 60 atoms per molecule.  An identical question was posted just 
2 or 3 days ago; please have a look in the list archive to find the suggestions 
posted in that thread.


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[gmx-users] a problem using g_sgangle

2012-07-30 Thread Za Pour
Dear gmx users
I am trying to analyze the results of my simulations. a system
including one CNT+12 small molecules.I would like to know the distribution
of angles formed by  these 12 small molecules around CNT.I have found from 
manual that 
g_sgangle may do that however, in the manual has been said that groups in this 
program
 are defined by a number of atoms given in an index file and may be two or 
three atoms in
size. but my small molecule has 60 atoms.would you please tell me is there any 
way I can
solve the problem.
thanks in advance
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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 30/07/2012 7:41 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:


  You are right, CT1 is incorrect for sure. But the other option is C(carbonyl 
C) . Maybe I couldn't say it clearly.
The FVAL which I sent before through mailing list, is the result of this 
formamide and the CGenff generation:
[ FVAL ]

  [ atoms ]
 CNC0.3570
 ONO-0.511
 H1HA0.1002
 NNH1-0.4233
 HNH0.3334
 CACT10.0345
 HAHB0.096
 CBCT1-0.0937
 HBHA0.098
 CG1CT3-0.2689
 HG11HA0.0910
 HG12HA0.0911
 HG13HA0.0912
 CG2CT3-0.26813
 HG21HA0.0914
 HG22HA0.0915
 HG23HA0.0916
 CC0.52817
 OO-0.51018
  [ bonds ]
 CNH1
 CNON
 CNN
 NH
 CAN
 CAHA
 CAC
 CO
 CACB
 CBHB
 CBCG1
 CBCG2
 CG2HG21
 CG2HG22
 CG2HG23
 CG1HG11
 CG1HG12
 CG1HG13
 
  [ impropers ]

   CN NONH1

This is the new residue which I defined and sent you(as remember), I used these 
parameters and atomtypes , and then went through mailing list and asked for 
your help a few days ago.
All over , with this procedure , I couldn't get the an acceptable result.


You say you've chosen suitable atom types. grompp says it can't find 
parameters for interactions using them. So until you find out further 
information, you don't have suitable atom types.  I've said all I have 
to say until you go and look up whether the bonds, angles and dihedrals 
that you want to use are defined in your force field for the atom types 
you want to use.


If you want further help, you will need to paste your .rtp entry(s), the 
N-terminal fragment of your pdb2gmx -f input, pdb2gmx command line, full 
pdb2gmx output, the N-terminal fragment of the grompp -c input, grompp 
command line, and full grompp output. You may think your context is 
clear, but nobody else is paying your problem as much attention as you 
are. I won't help further if you only provide partial information.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Shima Arasteh


 You are right, CT1 is incorrect for sure. But the other option is C(carbonyl 
C) . Maybe I couldn't say it clearly. 
The FVAL which I sent before through mailing list, is the result of this 
formamide and the CGenff generation:
[ FVAL ]
>>     [ atoms ]
>>        CN    C    0.357    0
>>        ON    O    -0.51    1
>>        H1    HA    0.100    2
>>        N    NH1    -0.423    3
>>        HN    H    0.333    4
>>        CA    CT1    0.034    5
>>        HA    HB    0.09    6
>>        CB    CT1    -0.093    7
>>        HB    HA    0.09    8
>>        CG1    CT3    -0.268    9
>>        HG11    HA    0.09    10
>>        HG12    HA    0.09    11
>>        HG13    HA    0.09    12
>>        CG2    CT3    -0.268    13
>>        HG21    HA    0.09    14
>>        HG22    HA    0.09    15
>>        HG23    HA    0.09    16
>>        C    C    0.528    17
>>        O    O    -0.510    18
>>     [ bonds ]
>>        CN    H1
>>        CN    ON
>>        CN    N
>>        N    H
>>        CA    N
>>        CA    HA
>>        CA    C
>>        C    O
>>        CA    CB
>>        CB    HB
>>        CB    CG1
>>        CB    CG2
>>        CG2    HG21
>>        CG2    HG22
>>        CG2    HG23
>>        CG1    HG11
>>        CG1    HG12
>>        CG1    HG13
>>        
>>     [ impropers ]
>>      CN     N    ON    H1

This is the new residue which I defined and sent you(as remember), I used these 
parameters and atomtypes , and then went through mailing list and asked for 
your help a few days ago.
All over , with this procedure , I couldn't get the an acceptable result.


Sincerely,
Shima


- Original Message -
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 30/07/2012 7:11 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
> In CHARMM36 folder, there is a atomtypes.atp that I chose the atomtypes of 
> formyl group ( as you see earlier)

No, I saw atom types chosen that included wrong things like CT1. If you're 
happy that you're using atom types that belong in formyl, then go and do the 
rest of the investigative procedure I suggested for the bonds/angles/dihedrals. 
I'm not going to write it again!

>   . If I don't use these, so what atom types?!
> I sent an email to Prof.Roux the author of this article 
> http://www.pnas.org/content/101/1/117.abstract . He suggested me to use the 
> parameters of formamide the charmm36.rtf file .
> RESI FORM          0.00 ! CH3NO formamide, adm jr.
> GROUP
> ATOM HA   HGR52    0.08 !
> ATOM C    CG2O1    0.42 !  O     Hc
> ATOM N    NG2S2   -0.69 !  \\   /
> ATOM HC   HGP1     0.35 !   C--N
> ATOM HT   HGP1     0.35 !  /    \
> ATOM O    OG2D1   -0.51 ! HA     Ht
> 
> I found something similar to what I used here for my defined formyl 
> group.Would this be useful?

Potentially a good start, but you will have to decide how to deal with the 
charge distribution, because you need to replace Ht with the rest of valine and 
end up with a neutral charge distribution that makes sense. One approach is to 
define a residue (based on those atom types and charges) with just formyl, 
since the above fragment has HC(O)- that is almost neutral. You can then 
proceed with using normal valine after that.

Mark

> 
>   Sincerely,
> Shima
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mark Abraham 
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up
> 
> On 30/07/2012 6:36 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
>> Thanks dear Mark.
>> Actually the atomtype C is more suitable for C atom of formyl and not CT1!
>> 
>> The same as before I get the no default bonds/angles/dihedral errors . You 
>> explained what I am suppose.
>> I can understand the way of matching the coordinate file and atom types in 
>> .rtp file. But it's not clear for me that what I am supposed to check? 
>> bonds? I don't know what I need to do.
> Your .rtp entry has to specify atom types. Those atom types have to make 
> chemical sense. Then there have to be bond/angle/dihedral parameters for all 
> the combinations you want to use. It may be that this is impossible (and 
> pdb2gmx is having trouble, which suggests this is true), but you can't know 
> without looking at the force field files. This is about the third time I've 
> said to go looking for formyl atom types in atomtypes.atp. They're probably 
> not there. Atom types for HC(O)N(H)R... are almost certainly not there, and 
> they are what you really want, and they'd be quite different from HC(O)R 
> formyl anyway.
> 
>> If I look for the bonds/dihedrals and then don't find them, what's the next 
>> step?
> Search the literature to see if anyone else has used this functional group, 
> but probably give up and use acetyl, like everybody else does. You have to 
> have a compelling reason to want to bother to parameterize this group, and 
> I'd suggest you get a lot more experience first.
> 
> Mark
>

Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 30/07/2012 7:11 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

In CHARMM36 folder, there is a atomtypes.atp that I chose the atomtypes of 
formyl group ( as you see earlier)


No, I saw atom types chosen that included wrong things like CT1. If 
you're happy that you're using atom types that belong in formyl, then go 
and do the rest of the investigative procedure I suggested for the 
bonds/angles/dihedrals. I'm not going to write it again!



  . If I don't use these, so what atom types?!
I sent an email to Prof.Roux the author of this article 
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/1/117.abstract . He suggested me to use the 
parameters of formamide the charmm36.rtf file .
RESI FORM  0.00 ! CH3NO formamide, adm jr.
GROUP
ATOM HA   HGR520.08 !
ATOM CCG2O10.42 !  O Hc
ATOM NNG2S2   -0.69 !  \\   /
ATOM HC   HGP1 0.35 !   C--N
ATOM HT   HGP1 0.35 !  /\
ATOM OOG2D1   -0.51 ! HA Ht

I found something similar to what I used here for my defined formyl group.Would 
this be useful?


Potentially a good start, but you will have to decide how to deal with 
the charge distribution, because you need to replace Ht with the rest of 
valine and end up with a neutral charge distribution that makes sense. 
One approach is to define a residue (based on those atom types and 
charges) with just formyl, since the above fragment has HC(O)- that is 
almost neutral. You can then proceed with using normal valine after that.


Mark



  
Sincerely,

Shima


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From: Mark Abraham 
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Cc:
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 30/07/2012 6:36 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Thanks dear Mark.
Actually the atomtype C is more suitable for C atom of formyl and not CT1!

The same as before I get the no default bonds/angles/dihedral errors . You 
explained what I am suppose.
I can understand the way of matching the coordinate file and atom types in .rtp 
file. But it's not clear for me that what I am supposed to check? bonds? I 
don't know what I need to do.

Your .rtp entry has to specify atom types. Those atom types have to make 
chemical sense. Then there have to be bond/angle/dihedral parameters for all 
the combinations you want to use. It may be that this is impossible (and 
pdb2gmx is having trouble, which suggests this is true), but you can't know 
without looking at the force field files. This is about the third time I've 
said to go looking for formyl atom types in atomtypes.atp. They're probably not 
there. Atom types for HC(O)N(H)R... are almost certainly not there, and they 
are what you really want, and they'd be quite different from HC(O)R formyl 
anyway.


If I look for the bonds/dihedrals and then don't find them, what's the next 
step?

Search the literature to see if anyone else has used this functional group, but 
probably give up and use acetyl, like everybody else does. You have to have a 
compelling reason to want to bother to parameterize this group, and I'd suggest 
you get a lot more experience first.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs installation

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 30/07/2012 6:56 PM, rama david wrote:

Hi GROMACS FRIENDS,
   I have dell T3500 precision, 64 bits, 6C workstation with fedora
operating system.
I want to install gromacs in parallel mode with mpi...
I am planning to performed Replica Exchange Molecular Dynamics ( REMD ).
As per REMD instruction
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD?highlight=remd,
GROMACS should not compile in threading.
I install open mpi with  command line yum -y install openmpi.
I found that fedora add/remove software package has gromacs 4.5.5
version that can be
easily installed by  command yum  ..
It  enlisted with  total 15 different packages : eg.. two packages..

1. GROMACS Open MPI binaries and libraries
2 . GROMACS OPEN MPI shared libraries

and a more..

Please can you tell me which packages I have to install so that I can
run GROMACS 4.5.5 in parallel to do REMD.


None of those are officially supported by the GROMACS team, so you're on 
your own to consult the metadata about each package (and maybe its 
dependencies) and see which one you want to use. Or do a source build 
per the instructions on the GROMACS web page.


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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Shima Arasteh
In CHARMM36 folder, there is a atomtypes.atp that I chose the atomtypes of 
formyl group ( as you see earlier) . If I don't use these, so what atom types?!
I sent an email to Prof.Roux the author of this article 
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/1/117.abstract . He suggested me to use the 
parameters of formamide the charmm36.rtf file .
RESI FORM  0.00 ! CH3NO formamide, adm jr.
GROUP
ATOM HA   HGR52    0.08 !
ATOM C    CG2O1    0.42 !  O Hc
ATOM N    NG2S2   -0.69 !  \\   /
ATOM HC   HGP1 0.35 !   C--N
ATOM HT   HGP1 0.35 !  /    \
ATOM O    OG2D1   -0.51 ! HA Ht

I found something similar to what I used here for my defined formyl group.Would 
this be useful?

 
Sincerely,
Shima


- Original Message -
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 30/07/2012 6:36 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
> Thanks dear Mark.
> Actually the atomtype C is more suitable for C atom of formyl and not CT1!
> 
> The same as before I get the no default bonds/angles/dihedral errors . You 
> explained what I am suppose.
> I can understand the way of matching the coordinate file and atom types in 
> .rtp file. But it's not clear for me that what I am supposed to check? bonds? 
> I don't know what I need to do.

Your .rtp entry has to specify atom types. Those atom types have to make 
chemical sense. Then there have to be bond/angle/dihedral parameters for all 
the combinations you want to use. It may be that this is impossible (and 
pdb2gmx is having trouble, which suggests this is true), but you can't know 
without looking at the force field files. This is about the third time I've 
said to go looking for formyl atom types in atomtypes.atp. They're probably not 
there. Atom types for HC(O)N(H)R... are almost certainly not there, and they 
are what you really want, and they'd be quite different from HC(O)R formyl 
anyway.

> If I look for the bonds/dihedrals and then don't find them, what's the next 
> step?

Search the literature to see if anyone else has used this functional group, but 
probably give up and use acetyl, like everybody else does. You have to have a 
compelling reason to want to bother to parameterize this group, and I'd suggest 
you get a lot more experience first.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs installation

2012-07-30 Thread Linus Östberg
If you install package 1 on your list, the second one will be
installed as well (ie you need both of them).

// Linus

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM, rama david  wrote:
> Hi GROMACS FRIENDS,
>   I have dell T3500 precision, 64 bits, 6C workstation with fedora
> operating system.
> I want to install gromacs in parallel mode with mpi...
> I am planning to performed Replica Exchange Molecular Dynamics ( REMD ).
> As per REMD instruction
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD?highlight=remd,
> GROMACS should not compile in threading.
> I install open mpi with  command line yum -y install openmpi.
> I found that fedora add/remove software package has gromacs 4.5.5
> version that can be
> easily installed by  command yum  ..
> It  enlisted with  total 15 different packages : eg.. two packages..
>
> 1. GROMACS Open MPI binaries and libraries
> 2 . GROMACS OPEN MPI shared libraries
>
> and a more..
>
> Please can you tell me which packages I have to install so that I can
> run GROMACS 4.5.5 in parallel to do REMD.
>
>
> Thank you in advance
> Have a nice day..
>
>
> With Best Wishes and regards.
> Rama David
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[gmx-users] Gromacs installation

2012-07-30 Thread rama david
Hi GROMACS FRIENDS,
  I have dell T3500 precision, 64 bits, 6C workstation with fedora
operating system.
I want to install gromacs in parallel mode with mpi...
I am planning to performed Replica Exchange Molecular Dynamics ( REMD ).
As per REMD instruction
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD?highlight=remd,
GROMACS should not compile in threading.
I install open mpi with  command line yum -y install openmpi.
I found that fedora add/remove software package has gromacs 4.5.5
version that can be
easily installed by  command yum  ..
It  enlisted with  total 15 different packages : eg.. two packages..

1. GROMACS Open MPI binaries and libraries
2 . GROMACS OPEN MPI shared libraries

and a more..

Please can you tell me which packages I have to install so that I can
run GROMACS 4.5.5 in parallel to do REMD.


Thank you in advance
Have a nice day..


With Best Wishes and regards.
Rama David
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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 30/07/2012 6:36 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Thanks dear Mark.
Actually the atomtype C is more suitable for C atom of formyl and not CT1!

The same as before I get the no default bonds/angles/dihedral errors . You 
explained what I am suppose.
I can understand the way of matching the coordinate file and atom types in .rtp 
file. But it's not clear for me that what I am supposed to check? bonds? I 
don't know what I need to do.


Your .rtp entry has to specify atom types. Those atom types have to make 
chemical sense. Then there have to be bond/angle/dihedral parameters for 
all the combinations you want to use. It may be that this is impossible 
(and pdb2gmx is having trouble, which suggests this is true), but you 
can't know without looking at the force field files. This is about the 
third time I've said to go looking for formyl atom types in 
atomtypes.atp. They're probably not there. Atom types for HC(O)N(H)R... 
are almost certainly not there, and they are what you really want, and 
they'd be quite different from HC(O)R formyl anyway.



If I look for the bonds/dihedrals and then don't find them, what's the next 
step?


Search the literature to see if anyone else has used this functional 
group, but probably give up and use acetyl, like everybody else does. 
You have to have a compelling reason to want to bother to parameterize 
this group, and I'd suggest you get a lot more experience first.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-30 Thread Shima Arasteh
Thanks dear Mark.
Actually the atomtype C is more suitable for C atom of formyl and not CT1!

The same as before I get the no default bonds/angles/dihedral errors . You 
explained what I am suppose. 
I can understand the way of matching the coordinate file and atom types in .rtp 
file. But it's not clear for me that what I am supposed to check? bonds? I 
don't know what I need to do.
If I look for the bonds/dihedrals and then don't find them, what's the next 
step?


Sincerely,
Shima


- Original Message -
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 29/07/2012 11:40 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
> I did the exercise as you said.
> A .pdb file of ACE and VAL. I ran the pdb2gmx, entered none as the N-terminus 
> and COO- as the C-terminus. The atomtyps that charmm selects for the acetyl 
> is as below:
>     1        CT3      1    ACE    CH3      1      -0.27     12.011   ; qtot 
>-0.27
>       2         HA      1    ACE   HH31      2       0.09      1.008   ; qtot 
>-0.18
>       3         HA      1    ACE   HH32      3       0.09      1.008   ; qtot 
>-0.09
>       4         HA      1    ACE   HH33      4       0.09      1.008   ; qtot >0
>       5          C      1    ACE      C      5       0.51     12.011   ; qtot 
>0.51
>       6          O      1    ACE      O      6      -0.51     15.999   ; qtot >0
> I thought that when H is instead of CH3 group, I will have a C atom of type 
> CT1 in formyl.

Look at the definition of CT1 in atomtypes.atp... does the description 
there suit HC(O)NH-?

>
> But when I entered the grompp command I got 13 errors as kind of the errors 
> got befor ( no default bonds or... )
>
> What do you suggest me? Any other homework to do? I will do!

I already talked about looking to see whether formyl atom types even 
exist... pdb2gmx has to match the atom names in the coordinate file to 
the atom names in the .rtp to look up the atom types and then there has 
to be a bonded type that matches those types. These errors occur when 
the latter is impossible. So you need to find out if these types exist 
in your force field.

Mark

>
> Sincerely,
> Shima
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Shima Arasteh 
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up
>
>
>
>   Uh-huh.. :-) ;-)
> I visualized the .pdb in VMD and it seems OK.
>
> All right,  I will do the exercise for tonight. :-)
>
> Thanks Mark.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Shima
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Mark Abraham 
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up
>
> On 29/07/2012 4:47 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mark, Thanks for your suggestions.
>> Atom 1 is the C which is expected to connect to the H ( atom 18) . Atom 5 is 
>> tha CA of the next resisue ( Valine), the bond 18-5 is not expected at all!
> Uh-huh... there's a known initial issue with a bond between 18 and 1 and
> later issues with 1-4 interaction between 5 and 1... and now you think
> there is a bond from 18 to 5? This makes no sense.
>
>>     However I see this pair in the [pairs] section of topology !
>> So I can get the result of an inappropriate bond interaction here! Correct?
>> Now I think it's not necessary to go through the diagnosing steps any more! 
>> :-(
>> What is my duty right now?!
>>
>> Is this problem supposed to be fixed in the .pdb file? What's wrong with the 
>> pdb file? What about erasing the unexpected bond interactions in topology 
>> file?
> As I've said, at least one of your topology and initial coordinates
> don't make sense. If you visualize the coordinates and they make sense,
> then you need to go back and get a proper topology, like Justin said.
> Blindly erasing interactions is ineffective. Go and design it properly,
> probably from the beginning or from what Justin said. As an exercise,
> get a simulation of Val with acetyl and some C-terminal capping residues
> working. Then work out from that example how to define and use an .rtp
> entry that is acetyl-Val. Then adapt that to formyl-Val.
>
> Mark
>
>>    
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Shima
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mark Abraham 
>> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnoding + system blowing up
>>
>> On 28/07/2012 9:34 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
>>>       Hi all,
>>>
>>> My system has got BLOWING UP . I followed the protocol in 
>>> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up and got as 
>>> below:
>>>
>>> Step 1: If the crash is happening relatively early (within a few steps), 
>>> set nstxout (or nstxtcout) to 1, capturing all possible frames.  Watch the 
>>> resulting trajectory to see which atoms/residues/molecules become unstabl

[gmx-users] RE: Re: Help of mdrun-gpu (Mark Abraham)

2012-07-30 Thread Du Jiangfeng (BIOCH)
Dear Mark,

Thank you for your reply.
I have read the documentations from 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Installation_Instructions/GPUs and also, 
from gromacs manual. I configured my system strictly followed by the 
instruction from it.

My GPU is GTX-480, which is supported by gromacs.

Then, How should I figure out the problem?

Jiangfeng.


On 28/07/2012 12:58 AM, Du Jiangfeng (BIOCH) wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I just configured the mdrun-gpu.  When I tested "mdrun-gpu" by running 
> gromacs-gpubench-dhfr.tar.gz which is from gromacs website. Unfortunately, it 
> failed with segmentation fault. I don't think the system has any equilibrium 
> problem since it works fine in "mdrun". I will appreciate a lot if anyone 
> could help me for it.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Jiangfeng.
>

Have you read the available documentation? Do you have a supported GPU?

Mark


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[gmx-users] RE: gmx-users Digest, Vol 99, Issue 113

2012-07-30 Thread Du Jiangfeng (BIOCH)
Dear Mark,

Thank you for your reply.
I have read the documentations from 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Installation_Instructions/GPUs and also, 
from gromacs manual. I configured my system strictly followed by the 
instruction from it. 

My GPU is GTX-480, which is supported by gromacs.

Then, How should I figure out the problem?

Jiangfeng.
 

On 28/07/2012 12:58 AM, Du Jiangfeng (BIOCH) wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I just configured the mdrun-gpu.  When I tested "mdrun-gpu" by running 
> gromacs-gpubench-dhfr.tar.gz which is from gromacs website. Unfortunately, it 
> failed with segmentation fault. I don't think the system has any equilibrium 
> problem since it works fine in "mdrun". I will appreciate a lot if anyone 
> could help me for it.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Jiangfeng.
>

Have you read the available documentation? Do you have a supported GPU?

Mark


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