Re: Re: [gmx-users] steered pulling code on ligand-receptor complex

2012-10-31 Thread 范聪
Thank you so much!


> -原始邮件-
> 发件人: "Jianguo Li" 
> 发送时间: 2012年10月31日 星期三
> 收件人: "Discussion list for GROMACS users" 
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> 主题: Re: [gmx-users] steered pulling code on ligand-receptor complex
> 
> If you position restraint the receptor or only use several residues at the 
> binding site, in both cases you limit your sampling to a small part of the 
> phase space and the PMF may not be accurate, since the receptor may undergo 
> conformational change upon ligand binding.
> Cheers
> --Jianguo
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 范聪 
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 20:04
> Subject: [gmx-users] steered pulling code on ligand-receptor complex
> 
> 
> Hello, everyone!
>     I'm a new user in gromacs, and now I have to perform a steered pulling 
> code on a ligand-receptor complex. The ligand is to be pulled away from the 
> binding site of the receptor, and umbrella sampling will be used to gain the 
> PMF (potential mean force) curve. Then  binding energy of the ligand-receptor 
> complex would be estimated.  The receptor contains 303 residues. While the 
> ligand is pulling away, the whole receptor is restrained by posres, 1000 in 
> x, y and z axis.
>    Since the receptor is so large and umbrella sampling needs so much 
> calculations, a very long time will be taken to complete the work.
>    Now I have my question, is there anyway to reduce the taken time? Such as 
> keeping only residues near the binding site to respect the whole receptor?
>    Thank you all in advance!
> 
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[gmx-users] Gmx Hessian

2012-10-31 Thread Yao Yao
hi Gmxers,

is the Hessian matrix unit in gmx is ps^(-2), or 

J *mol^(-1) nm^(-2)?

thanks,

Yao
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[gmx-users] g_rdf

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Ali:

I don't think that you are re-posting the same question often enough. 
Perhaps you should repost more often? 4 identical posts in 5 hours might not be 
enough to get a reply

Seriously though, we all saw your message.

Chris.

-- original message(s) --

I have a system that contains water , methane and propane in 240 k and 300
bar,

My simulation box is rectangular .

Water film is in middle of my box. Methane and propane is around it.

My simulation box is symmetric,

1- I used g_rdf program for . My result is exotic. My g(r) in profile do
not reach to 1 . Why ?


2- I test my number density profiles(from g_density) but they do not
correct result because when i

calculate number of my molecules by multiplying volume to average number
density, i can not take the same number of my particle,

Where do i mistake?

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Ali Alizadeh

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Re: [gmx-users] g_rdf

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 4:56 PM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear All users

I have a system that contains water , methane and propane in 240 k and 300
bar,

My simulation box is rectangular .

Water film is in middle of my box. Methane and propane is around it.

My simulation box is symmetric,

1- I used g_rdf program for . My result is exotic. My g(r) in profile do
not reach to 1 . Why ?



"Exotic" is not a useful description.  Are there systematic trends?  Bumps in 
the plot? What's going on?  What groups are you choosing for the analysis?  It 
seems to me the asymmetry in the system will cause some odd behavior in an RDF, 
but without seeing an actual plot (i.e. a picture) then it's hard to comment.




2- I test my number density profiles(from g_density) but they do not
correct result because when i

calculate number of my molecules by multiplying volume to average number
density, i can not take the same number of my particle,



From the extensive posts on this topic in recent days, you should know that 
there are issues with g_density.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
makes sense.

-- original message --

On 10/31/12 4:21 PM, Christopher Neale wrote:
> Well, I thought that it would work for for freeze groups, and that is what I 
> intended to say. I've used freeze groups
> before, but don't have tonnes of experience with them. The gromacs mdp 
> options page reads as if it should work ( 
> http://manual.gromacs.org/online/mdp_opt.html#neq ), but if Justin says that 
> you can not use an index group for freeze groups (only position restraints) 
> then I suggest that you take his word for it. He answers a lot more posts and 
> is probably more familiar with the ins and outs of gromacs.
>

That's not what I meant at all.  One can use an index group for freeze groups, 
as well.  The original problem was that apparently the frozen group was not 
working entirely, so I suggested (as a troubleshooting measure) that the OP use 
restraints instead to see if the outcome was different.  The bizarre behavior 
before (two molecules moving, but the remainder staying frozen) suggested to me 
that perhaps there was something going wrong with the initial configuration and 
I was hoping that, at the very least, using restraints would determine if the 
configuration was messed up or not amenable to freezing.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 4:21 PM, Christopher Neale wrote:

Well, I thought that it would work for for freeze groups, and that is what I 
intended to say. I've used freeze groups
before, but don't have tonnes of experience with them. The gromacs mdp options 
page reads as if it should work ( 
http://manual.gromacs.org/online/mdp_opt.html#neq ), but if Justin says that 
you can not use an index group for freeze groups (only position restraints) 
then I suggest that you take his word for it. He answers a lot more posts and 
is probably more familiar with the ins and outs of gromacs.



That's not what I meant at all.  One can use an index group for freeze groups, 
as well.  The original problem was that apparently the frozen group was not 
working entirely, so I suggested (as a troubleshooting measure) that the OP use 
restraints instead to see if the outcome was different.  The bizarre behavior 
before (two molecules moving, but the remainder staying frozen) suggested to me 
that perhaps there was something going wrong with the initial configuration and 
I was hoping that, at the very least, using restraints would determine if the 
configuration was messed up or not amenable to freezing.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
Well, I thought that it would work for for freeze groups, and that is what I 
intended to say. I've used freeze groups 
before, but don't have tonnes of experience with them. The gromacs mdp options 
page reads as if it should work ( 
http://manual.gromacs.org/online/mdp_opt.html#neq ), but if Justin says that 
you can not use an index group for freeze groups (only position restraints) 
then I suggest that you take his word for it. He answers a lot more posts and 
is probably more familiar with the ins and outs of gromacs.

Chris,.

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Alex Marshall amarsh59 at uwo.ca 
Wed Oct 31 20:55:08 CET 2012
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Chris, is that for freeze groups or position restraints?

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Christopher Neale <
chris.neale at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> No need to rename... just make an .ndx group.
>
> -- original message --
>
> As I understand it, position restraints for an atom are set in the topology
> file and applied to that atom in each of that species. In order to restrain
> some but not all of the water I'd have to copy the topology of my water
> model and add the restraints, then rename (and group together) the atoms I
> want to freeze so that they're identified with the appropriate topology
> file. Does this sound like it would work? Is there some other way that you
> might do it?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 3:55 PM, Alex Marshall wrote:

Chris, is that for freeze groups or position restraints?



I will assume Chris was referring to the restraint method - you need an index 
file for creating the position restraint .itp file using genrestr.  It will save 
you a ton of time over doing it manually.


-Justin


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Christopher Neale <
chris.ne...@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:


No need to rename... just make an .ndx group.

-- original message --

As I understand it, position restraints for an atom are set in the topology
file and applied to that atom in each of that species. In order to restrain
some but not all of the water I'd have to copy the topology of my water
model and add the restraints, then rename (and group together) the atoms I
want to freeze so that they're identified with the appropriate topology
file. Does this sound like it would work? Is there some other way that you
might do it?

Thanks

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alex Marshall  wrote:


Justin: I'll try using position restraints instead of freezing the water
in the tube. Thanks for the tip.

Bogdan: I don't think I'm using constraints other than freeze groups. I
wasn't using energy group exclusions though. I tried running the

simulation

from the same initial configuration with newly-defined energy groups
CNT_GRA_WAL_IN and OUT, the first for the frozen atoms and the second for
the free atoms. The list of exclusions reads:
energygrp_excl   = CNT_GRA_WAL_IN CNT_GRA_WAL_IN

Long story short, I'm roughly 15 ns into the simulation and the same two
waters have jumped. I'll check the manual again though. Thanks.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Bogdan Costescu 
gmail.com>wrote:



On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Alex Marshall 

wrote:

Thanks Justin. I identified the offending waters using vmd (adding 1

to

resID and atom number since vmd starts counting at 0) and checked
confout.gro to make sure the coordinates matched up. I only have one

group

for all frozen atoms in the system, and these guys are definitely in

it.


Are you using some kind of constraints ? Are you using energy group
exclusions to avoid interactions between frozen atoms ? If you search
the manual for "frozen" you'll find some warnings and recommendations.

Cheers,
Bogdan
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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-10-31 Thread Alex Marshall
Chris, is that for freeze groups or position restraints?

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Christopher Neale <
chris.ne...@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> No need to rename... just make an .ndx group.
>
> -- original message --
>
> As I understand it, position restraints for an atom are set in the topology
> file and applied to that atom in each of that species. In order to restrain
> some but not all of the water I'd have to copy the topology of my water
> model and add the restraints, then rename (and group together) the atoms I
> want to freeze so that they're identified with the appropriate topology
> file. Does this sound like it would work? Is there some other way that you
> might do it?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alex Marshall  wrote:
>
> > Justin: I'll try using position restraints instead of freezing the water
> > in the tube. Thanks for the tip.
> >
> > Bogdan: I don't think I'm using constraints other than freeze groups. I
> > wasn't using energy group exclusions though. I tried running the
> simulation
> > from the same initial configuration with newly-defined energy groups
> > CNT_GRA_WAL_IN and OUT, the first for the frozen atoms and the second for
> > the free atoms. The list of exclusions reads:
> > energygrp_excl   = CNT_GRA_WAL_IN CNT_GRA_WAL_IN
> >
> > Long story short, I'm roughly 15 ns into the simulation and the same two
> > waters have jumped. I'll check the manual again though. Thanks.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Bogdan Costescu  gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Alex Marshall 
> wrote:
> >> > Thanks Justin. I identified the offending waters using vmd (adding 1
> to
> >> > resID and atom number since vmd starts counting at 0) and checked
> >> > confout.gro to make sure the coordinates matched up. I only have one
> >> group
> >> > for all frozen atoms in the system, and these guys are definitely in
> it.
> >>
> >> Are you using some kind of constraints ? Are you using energy group
> >> exclusions to avoid interactions between frozen atoms ? If you search
> >> the manual for "frozen" you'll find some warnings and recommendations.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Bogdan
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[gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
No need to rename... just make an .ndx group.

-- original message --

As I understand it, position restraints for an atom are set in the topology
file and applied to that atom in each of that species. In order to restrain
some but not all of the water I'd have to copy the topology of my water
model and add the restraints, then rename (and group together) the atoms I
want to freeze so that they're identified with the appropriate topology
file. Does this sound like it would work? Is there some other way that you
might do it?

Thanks

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alex Marshall  wrote:

> Justin: I'll try using position restraints instead of freezing the water
> in the tube. Thanks for the tip.
>
> Bogdan: I don't think I'm using constraints other than freeze groups. I
> wasn't using energy group exclusions though. I tried running the simulation
> from the same initial configuration with newly-defined energy groups
> CNT_GRA_WAL_IN and OUT, the first for the frozen atoms and the second for
> the free atoms. The list of exclusions reads:
> energygrp_excl   = CNT_GRA_WAL_IN CNT_GRA_WAL_IN
>
> Long story short, I'm roughly 15 ns into the simulation and the same two
> waters have jumped. I'll check the manual again though. Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Bogdan Costescu  gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Alex Marshall  wrote:
>> > Thanks Justin. I identified the offending waters using vmd (adding 1 to
>> > resID and atom number since vmd starts counting at 0) and checked
>> > confout.gro to make sure the coordinates matched up. I only have one
>> group
>> > for all frozen atoms in the system, and these guys are definitely in it.
>>
>> Are you using some kind of constraints ? Are you using energy group
>> exclusions to avoid interactions between frozen atoms ? If you search
>> the manual for "frozen" you'll find some warnings and recommendations.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bogdan
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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze group atoms changing position

2012-10-31 Thread Alex Marshall
As I understand it, position restraints for an atom are set in the topology
file and applied to that atom in each of that species. In order to restrain
some but not all of the water I'd have to copy the topology of my water
model and add the restraints, then rename (and group together) the atoms I
want to freeze so that they're identified with the appropriate topology
file. Does this sound like it would work? Is there some other way that you
might do it?

Thanks

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Alex Marshall  wrote:

> Justin: I'll try using position restraints instead of freezing the water
> in the tube. Thanks for the tip.
>
> Bogdan: I don't think I'm using constraints other than freeze groups. I
> wasn't using energy group exclusions though. I tried running the simulation
> from the same initial configuration with newly-defined energy groups
> CNT_GRA_WAL_IN and OUT, the first for the frozen atoms and the second for
> the free atoms. The list of exclusions reads:
> energygrp_excl   = CNT_GRA_WAL_IN CNT_GRA_WAL_IN
>
> Long story short, I'm roughly 15 ns into the simulation and the same two
> waters have jumped. I'll check the manual again though. Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Bogdan Costescu wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Alex Marshall  wrote:
>> > Thanks Justin. I identified the offending waters using vmd (adding 1 to
>> > resID and atom number since vmd starts counting at 0) and checked
>> > confout.gro to make sure the coordinates matched up. I only have one
>> group
>> > for all frozen atoms in the system, and these guys are definitely in it.
>>
>> Are you using some kind of constraints ? Are you using energy group
>> exclusions to avoid interactions between frozen atoms ? If you search
>> the manual for "frozen" you'll find some warnings and recommendations.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bogdan
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[gmx-users] What exactly is the artifact caused by setting refcoord_scaling=no with position restraint

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
I've asked the same question myself and would also like to know.

That said, there seems to be no issue if you set refcoord_scaling=com. 
According to the manual, this does
not give artefacts (whatever they are) and also does not change your restraint 
positions (as refcoord_scaling=all
does).

Sorry that I can't give a complete answer, but, to my understanding, 
refcoord_scaling=no is probably just there
for backward compatibility and you should use refcoord_scaling=com.

Hopefully somebody who knows the full answer can comment.

Chris.

-- original message -- 

After reading the manual and some earlier threads, I understand that this
would cause incorrect pressure and some "artifact". I found gromacs4.5.4
does not give warning while gromacs4.5.5 does?

But I wonder how large would the average pressure deviate when setting
refcoord_scaling=no compared when setting refcoord_scaling=com/ all, with
absolute position restraints? Does the pressure reported in .log file still
correct when setting refcoord_scaling=no?

Thanks,
Yun

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error in npt run - box size/ triclinic skew factor

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 12:38 PM, mtso wrote:




Just make sure whatever changes you are making are correct for the chosen

force

field and algorithms.  If you're having problems with NPT, you can always

switch

to the Berendsen algorithm for pressure coupling before returning to
Parrinello-Rahman for data collection.


-Justin

Thanks for the quick response, I've changed to the Berendsen algorithm, and
still get the same error message.  When looking at the files we've used in
the past for similar simulations, the file we use for annealing has pressure
coupling off.  Would it even be necessary to do NPT before annealing then?




You didn't mention annealing before, that would have been helpful to know.  So 
the .mdp file you posted before is not one that is causing a problem?  I'm just 
lost as to what you're doing now.  Doing annealing using NPT may become 
unstable, depending upon how happy the system is to start and how drastic the 
temperature changes are.  NVT is probably more stable for annealing.


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[gmx-users] Re: Error in npt run - box size/ triclinic skew factor

2012-10-31 Thread mtso


>Just make sure whatever changes you are making are correct for the chosen
force 
>field and algorithms.  If you're having problems with NPT, you can always
switch 
>to the Berendsen algorithm for pressure coupling before returning to 
>Parrinello-Rahman for data collection.

-Justin

Thanks for the quick response, I've changed to the Berendsen algorithm, and
still get the same error message.  When looking at the files we've used in
the past for similar simulations, the file we use for annealing has pressure
coupling off.  Would it even be necessary to do NPT before annealing then?



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Re: [gmx-users] testing Gromacs 4.6 (git version) on GPUs

2012-10-31 Thread Susan Chacko

Thank you! Yes, I am able to run the 'dhfr-solv-PME.bench' benchmark with
mdrun -s topol.tpr -testverlet 

and it seems to be using the GPUs as well:
---
2 GPUs detected:
  #0: NVIDIA Tesla M2050, compute cap.: 2.0, ECC: yes, stat: compatible
  #1: NVIDIA Tesla M2050, compute cap.: 2.0, ECC: yes, stat: compatible

2 GPUs auto-selected to be used for this run: #0, #1
---

Best,
Susan.

On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Roland Schulz wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> you can use the tpr files from the tgz if you use the non-implicit "solv"
> (preferable PME) test.
> 
> Roland
> 
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Susan Chacko  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I wanted to test the built-in support in Gromacs 4.6 (non-OpenMM) for GPUs.
>> I downloaded the latest git version and it built successfully, appears
>> to link the right CUDA libraries etc.
>> 
>> I tried testing it with the Gromacs GPU benchmark suite
>> (http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/128/=gromacs-gpubench-dhfr.tar.gz)
>> 
>> The output md.log file reports:
>> 
>> […]
>> NOTE: GPU(s) found, but the current simulation can not use GPUs
>> To use a GPU, set the mdp option: cutoff-scheme = Verlet
>> (for quick performance testing you can use the -testverlet option)
>> 
>> 
>> So I tried 'mdrun -s topol.tpr -testverlet' and got:
>> ---
>> Program mdrun, VERSION 4.6-dev
>> Source code file: /usr/local/src/gromacs/gromacs/src/kernel/runner.c,
>> line: 700
>> 
>> Fatal error:
>> Can only convert old tpr files to the Verlet cut-off scheme with 3D pbc
>> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
>> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>> ---
>> 
>> Does anyone have a test set that I can use to check the performance of
>> Gromacs 4.6 on GPUs? I'm more of a sysadmin than a computational chemist,
>> so I'm sort of reliant on the provided benchmark suites.
>> 
>> Any suggestions welcomed and appreciated,
>> Susan.
>> 
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Re: [gmx-users] testing Gromacs 4.6 (git version) on GPUs

2012-10-31 Thread Roland Schulz
Hi,

you can use the tpr files from the tgz if you use the non-implicit "solv"
(preferable PME) test.

Roland

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Susan Chacko  wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to test the built-in support in Gromacs 4.6 (non-OpenMM) for GPUs.
> I downloaded the latest git version and it built successfully, appears
> to link the right CUDA libraries etc.
>
> I tried testing it with the Gromacs GPU benchmark suite
> (http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/128/=gromacs-gpubench-dhfr.tar.gz)
>
> The output md.log file reports:
> 
> […]
> NOTE: GPU(s) found, but the current simulation can not use GPUs
>  To use a GPU, set the mdp option: cutoff-scheme = Verlet
>  (for quick performance testing you can use the -testverlet option)
> 
>
> So I tried 'mdrun -s topol.tpr -testverlet' and got:
> ---
> Program mdrun, VERSION 4.6-dev
> Source code file: /usr/local/src/gromacs/gromacs/src/kernel/runner.c,
> line: 700
>
> Fatal error:
> Can only convert old tpr files to the Verlet cut-off scheme with 3D pbc
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
> ---
>
> Does anyone have a test set that I can use to check the performance of
> Gromacs 4.6 on GPUs? I'm more of a sysadmin than a computational chemist,
> so I'm sort of reliant on the provided benchmark suites.
>
> Any suggestions welcomed and appreciated,
> Susan.
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Re: [gmx-users] About Doubt in Lipid protein Solvation

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 11:45 AM, vidhya sankar wrote:

Dear Justin Thank you For your Previous Kind Reply

   
I am following your Lipid-protein Tutorial  for My system   I  Gave The 
Following Commands As Quoted in your Tutorial Also I Have Suitably Edited The 
Topology As in the Tutorial

Now the Problem in My solvation .



I  Gave The Following Commands As Quoted in your Tutorial

./pdb2gmx_d  -f 2KDQ.pdb -o 2KDQ.gro -ignh -ter -water spc
./editconf_d  -f 2KDQ.gro -o 2KDQ_newbox.gro -box 6 6 6  -c
./editconf_d -f dppc128.pdb -o dppc128n.gro -center 3 3 3  -box 6 6 6
./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c dppc128n.gro -p topol_dppc.top  -o emdppc.tpr 
-maxwarn 1
./trjconv_d -s emdppc.tpr -f dppc128n.gro  -o dppc128_whole.gro  -pbc  mol -ur 
compact
./editconf_d  -f 2KDQ.gro -o 2KDQ_newbox.gro -box 6 6 6  -c
cat 2KDQ_newbox.gro dppc128_whole.gro > system.gro
./genrestr_d  -f 2KDQ_newbox.gro -o strong_posre.itp -fc 10 10 10
perl inflategro.pl system.gro 4 DPPC 18 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat
./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c system_inflated.gro -p 2KDQ.top  -o 2KDQDPPCem.tpr
./mdrun_d  -v -deffnm 2KDQDPPCem
perl inflategro.pl 2KDQDPPCem.gro 0.95  DPPC 0 system_inflated1.gro 5 area1.dat

I Repeated the inflate and EM  Until I have Attained  APL 66 (Experimental 
value 62)

At the End of EMinimised .gro   file The Box vectors  Has been Increased form 6 
6  6 6 to
20.57700  20.57700   6.0


What do you mean "at the end of EM?"  Is this the first energy minimization of 
the inflated system, or the final minimization of the satisfactorily shrunken 
system?  If the latter, something is clearly wrong as it is impossible to have 
such a large x-y area with the quoted APL.




As result Box Size Also Increase When I
solvate   By mere Editing the Vanderwalls Radii  to 0.470,  then my
system  is is solvated By 64495  Water moleculesHow to Avoid this Problem  
?   This is too high  Where I have Committed Mistakes I need your Valuable 
Ideas  and Suggestions



I have no idea.  Your box size increases when you solvate?  That makes no sense. 
 Your description is not clear to me.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] About Doubt in Lipid protein Solvation

2012-10-31 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear Justin Thank you For your Previous Kind Reply  

  I 
am following your Lipid-protein Tutorial  for My system   I  Gave The Following 
Commands As Quoted in your Tutorial Also I Have Suitably Edited The Topology As 
in the Tutorial 

Now the Problem in My solvation . 

 

I  Gave The Following Commands As Quoted in your Tutorial  

./pdb2gmx_d  -f 2KDQ.pdb -o 2KDQ.gro -ignh -ter -water spc
./editconf_d  -f 2KDQ.gro -o 2KDQ_newbox.gro -box 6 6 6  -c
./editconf_d -f dppc128.pdb -o dppc128n.gro -center 3 3 3  -box 6 6 6
./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c dppc128n.gro -p topol_dppc.top  -o emdppc.tpr 
-maxwarn 1
./trjconv_d -s emdppc.tpr -f dppc128n.gro  -o dppc128_whole.gro  -pbc  mol -ur 
compact
./editconf_d  -f 2KDQ.gro -o 2KDQ_newbox.gro -box 6 6 6  -c
cat 2KDQ_newbox.gro dppc128_whole.gro > system.gro
./genrestr_d  -f 2KDQ_newbox.gro -o strong_posre.itp -fc 10 10 10
perl inflategro.pl system.gro 4 DPPC 18 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat
./grompp_d -f emdppc.mdp -c system_inflated.gro -p 2KDQ.top  -o 2KDQDPPCem.tpr
./mdrun_d  -v -deffnm 2KDQDPPCem
perl inflategro.pl 2KDQDPPCem.gro 0.95  DPPC 0 system_inflated1.gro 5 area1.dat

I Repeated the inflate and EM  Until I have Attained  APL 66 (Experimental 
value 62) 

At the End of EMinimised .gro   file The Box vectors  Has been Increased form 6 
6  6 6 to 
20.57700  20.57700   6.0 

As result Box Size Also Increase When I 
solvate   By mere Editing the Vanderwalls Radii  to 0.470,  then my 
system  is is solvated By 64495  Water molecules    How to Avoid this Problem  
?   This is too high  Where I have Committed Mistakes I need your Valuable 
Ideas  and Suggestions 


Thanks In Advance


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[gmx-users] time-block analysis

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
Leila, I provided 2 good references to answer your question earlier. If you 
can't be bothered to read about it,
then the answer is yes, it is a good method.

Looking at your other questions, I think that it is time for you to look at 
those references and learn more about
block averaging and convergence in general.

Chris.

-- original message --

Thanks for your quick reply.

You did not answer me (is block averaging good way for investigation of the
simulation convergence?)

Based on your example (histogram of the distribution of a dihedral angle),
if I want to investigate convergence of RMSD, Figure 1 is RMSD vs time. But
I dont know about Figure S1. what parameter vs what parameter (RMSD vs
what)? Please describe more.

If the value of [rms (quantity)/quantity] be less than 10 exp (-3), can I
use that as convergence criterion? (for example, quantity= potential energy)

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[gmx-users] Re, density

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
Dear Ali:

I am not sure what ecenter is, it looks like it might be the position to which 
the user wants to set the center?
In any event, it doesn't mater for this modification.

I did not write the center_x() function, it is a standard part of gmx_trjconv.c 
What I did was to copy center_x() to 
center_x_com() and then modify center_x_com() such that it computes the center 
of mass and not the position of
(max-min)/2.

I then modified the call to center_x() to actually be a call to center_x_com(), 
where it requires the additional 
argument of "atoms->atom" at the end of the list.

What I posted here: 
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2011-June/062239.html is actually 
the non-
modified function call from the original gmx_trjconv.c in gromacs 4.5.3 (posted 
to show that there is a problem).

Here is a patch that you can apply to gromacs version 4.5.3 (but possibly not 
to 4.5.4 or 4.5.5 because they made 
slight other modifications to gmx_trjconv.c so I am not sure if this patch will 
work). Still, it is just 2 blocks of changes
so once you understand them you can make the changes by hand.


--- ../../../../gromacs-4.5.3b/source/src/tools/gmx_trjconv.c   2010-09-29 
07:35:06.0 -0400
+++ ./gmx_trjconv.c 2011-08-02 13:13:00.0 -0400
@@ -385,6 +385,33 @@
 }
 }
 
+static void center_x_com(int ecenter,rvec x[],matrix box,int n,int nc,atom_id 
ci[],t_atom atom[])
+{
+int i,m,ai;
+rvec com,box_center,dx;
+real mtot;
+
+mtot=0.0;
+com[0]=com[1]=com[2]=0.0;
+if (nc > 0) {
+for(i=0; iatom);
+}
 }
 
 if (bPBCcomAtom) {





 PATCH IS OVER

In case the patch is mangled by email formatting, you can try to just add the 
lines yourself. Just add the 
center_x_com() function and then use the call to center_x_com() and not 
center_x() in the "if(bCenter)" sataement.
Note that there is the additional argument "atoms->atom" in the call to 
center_x_com().


Chris.

-- original message --

I find out where you change the trjconv, I have a question

"ecenter" in this code, Where do you use it? and What is the ecenter?


static void center_x(int ecenter,rvec x[],matrix box,int n,int nc,atom_id
ci[])

{
int i,m,ai;
rvec cmin,cmax,box_center,dx;

if (nc > 0) {
copy_rvec(x[ci[0]],cmin);
copy_rvec(x[ci[0]],cmax);
for(i=0; i cmax[m])
cmax[m]=x[ai][m];
}
}
calc_box_center(ecenter,box,box_center);
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[gmx-users] testing Gromacs 4.6 (git version) on GPUs

2012-10-31 Thread Susan Chacko

Hi all,

I wanted to test the built-in support in Gromacs 4.6 (non-OpenMM) for GPUs.
I downloaded the latest git version and it built successfully, appears
to link the right CUDA libraries etc. 

I tried testing it with the Gromacs GPU benchmark suite 
(http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/128/=gromacs-gpubench-dhfr.tar.gz)

The output md.log file reports:

[…]
NOTE: GPU(s) found, but the current simulation can not use GPUs
 To use a GPU, set the mdp option: cutoff-scheme = Verlet
 (for quick performance testing you can use the -testverlet option)


So I tried 'mdrun -s topol.tpr -testverlet' and got:
---
Program mdrun, VERSION 4.6-dev
Source code file: /usr/local/src/gromacs/gromacs/src/kernel/runner.c, line: 700

Fatal error:
Can only convert old tpr files to the Verlet cut-off scheme with 3D pbc
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Does anyone have a test set that I can use to check the performance of
Gromacs 4.6 on GPUs? I'm more of a sysadmin than a computational chemist, 
so I'm sort of reliant on the provided benchmark suites. 

Any suggestions welcomed and appreciated,
Susan.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error in npt run - box size/ triclinic skew factor

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 10:23 AM, mtso wrote:

Thanks Justin,
We're using the tutorial, and those .mdp files as a starting point but
actually running the simulations on the protein PDB ID 2LFM, without adding
a ligand for now, and modifying the .mdp files as necessary.



Just make sure whatever changes you are making are correct for the chosen force 
field and algorithms.  If you're having problems with NPT, you can always switch 
to the Berendsen algorithm for pressure coupling before returning to 
Parrinello-Rahman for data collection.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: Error in npt run - box size/ triclinic skew factor

2012-10-31 Thread mtso
Thanks Justin,
We're using the tutorial, and those .mdp files as a starting point but
actually running the simulations on the protein PDB ID 2LFM, without adding
a ligand for now, and modifying the .mdp files as necessary.







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[gmx-users] time-block analysis

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Neale
Technically, in order to show that your simulation has reached complete 
convergence, you would need to
show that every type of data has converged. Obviously nobody does this. You 
should start with looking at the
convergence of any data type that you analyze in any other way. i.e. if you 
show a histogram of the distribution
of a dihedral angle as Figure 1, then Figure S1 might be some analysis of the 
convergence of that histogram.

Look at papers where people are doing similar things to what you are doing. 
Unfortunately, lots of otherwise
good papers don't even consider convergence so you may need to do a little 
digging.

PS: g_analyze sounds like a good idea. I've always scripted my own because it 
is more flexible, but if there is a 
gromacs tool to do this then use it.

Chris.

-- original message --

Very thanks for your reply.


In addition of your suggested script, in the gromacs, -ee option of
g_analyze produces error estimates using block averaging.

A person suggest me to do time-block analysis to find that my simulation
has converged or not.

You mentioned to "2-column data file that has time in the first column and
some other data in the second column".

To investigate convergence of simulation, what should be as other data in
mentioned file (2-column data file)?

Any help will highly appreciated.
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Re: [gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 6:02 AM, bipin singh wrote:

Hello all,

Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
significant clue.


At present, there is no way to do this.  Likely one could modify the g_mindist 
code to do this - it would be a very nice feature.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Why potential energy not in negative value?

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/31/12 4:10 AM, Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani wrote:

Dear All,

Currently I'm doing the minimization part for my solvent which is
hexafluoroisopropanol with water.
I'm packing them with packmol then use the forcefield gromos96.
Now  by using the command
grompp -f em1.mdp -c minimize_301012.gro -p topol.top -o minimize_311012.tpr
mdrun -deffnm minimize_311012 -v

And its give the result as follow :

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Back Off! I just backed up minimize_311012.gro to ./#minimize_311012.gro.3#

Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 15 in 36 steps
Potential Energy  =  1.88042503678994e+05
Maximum force =  1.46843345643871e+01 on atom 30092
Norm of force =  1.94397813942079e+00


I already minimize it with the bigger step that use about 10ns.
Next I increase the step which take about 15ns and the result show
same as above..



Note that EM is not run in time, so your settings below are misleading.  The 
only settings that matter are nsteps and emstep; dt is ignored completely when 
running EM.  Note that your cutoff settings are incorrect for Gromos96, as you 
say you are using.  How did you generate the HFIP topology?


The positive potential indicates that your system has a net repulsive energy, so 
the configuration isn't very happy.  The maximum force is very good, but there 
may be unsatisfied interactions that yield the positive energy.  Perhaps a 
gentle equilibration will resolve the situation.


-Justin


My mdp file was like this :

;
;   Preprocessing
title= STEEP
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
include  = -I/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top
define   = -DFLEXIBLE
;
;   Run Control
;
integrator   = steep
nsteps   = 7500 ; 7500 * 0.2 = 15000 ps = 15 ns
dt = 0.0002 ; 0.2 fs
;
; Energy Minimization
emstep   = 0.0001 ; used with steep
emtol= 15
nstcgsteep   = 500 ; do a steep every 10 steps of cg
energygrps   = System
;
;   Neighbor Searching
nstcomm  = 1
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.2
;
; Electrostatics
coulombtype  = pme
rcoulomb = 1.2
rcoulomb-switch  = 0
vdw-type = cut-off
rvdw = 1.2
rvdw-switch  = 0
fourierspacing = 0.2
;
; Output Control
nstenergy = 10
optimize_fft = yes
;
;   OPTIONS FOR BONDS
; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints  = none


Is the potential energy need to be in negative value for my simulation?
What happened if it not in negative value?Can I just proceed to the
next step for equilibration?
I already find and read the paper that relate to my simulation and
they did not mention the energy that they got from their
experiment.

Thanks in advance u guys,
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Best Regards,

Nur Syafiqah Abdul Ghani,
Theoretical and Computational Chemistry Laboratory,
Department of Chemistry,
Faculty of Science,
Universiti Putra Malaysia,
43400 Serdang,
Selangor.
013-7188131
alternative email : syafiqahabdulgh...@gmail.com



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Re: [gmx-users] Error in npt run - box size/ triclinic skew factor

2012-10-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/30/12 4:23 PM, mtso wrote:

When trying to do an npt run, I get the fatal error: The X-size of the box
(3.999511) times the triclinic skew factor (1.00) is smaller than the
number of DD cells (4) times the smallest allowed cell size (1.00).  I
should mention, I'm brand new to using gromacs so any assistance is greatly
appreciated.  My nvt run was fine.  I used the following mdp file:



The error means your system has become unstable and is about to blow up.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up

Are you running the tutorial?  The .mdp file would indicate you are, but the 
system is very robust and I have not seen this happen.


-Justin



  title = OPLS Lysozyme NPT equilibration
define  = -DPOSRES  ; position restrain the protein
; Run parameters
integrator  = md; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 5 ; 2 * 5 = 100 ps
dt  = 0.002 ; 2 fs
; Output control
nstxout = 100   ; save coordinates every 0.2 ps
nstvout = 100   ; save velocities every 0.2 ps
nstenergy   = 100   ; save energies every 0.2 ps
nstlog  = 100   ; update log file every 0.2 ps
; Bond parameters
continuation= yes   ; Restarting after NVT
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
constraints = all-bonds ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds) 
constrained
lincs_iter  = 1 ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order = 4 ; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid  ; search neighboring grid cells
nstlist = 5 ; 10 fs
rlist   = 1.0   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb= 1.0   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
rvdw= 1.0   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
electrostatics
pme_order   = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing  = 0.16  ; grid spacing for FFT
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl  = V-rescale ; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps = Protein ; two coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t   = 0.1   ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   = 300   ; reference temperature, one for each group, in K
; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman ; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype  = isotropic ; uniform scaling of box vectors
tau_p   = 2.0   ; time constant, in ps
ref_p   = 1.0   ; reference pressure, in bar
refcoord_scaling= com   ; scale center of mass of reference coordinates
compressibility = 4.5e-5; isothermal compressibility of water, bar^-1
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = xyz   ; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr= EnerPres  ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = no; Velocity generation is off

Thanks in advance.



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[gmx-users] fraction of native contacts calculation

2012-10-31 Thread bipin singh
Hello all,

Is there any way to calculate fraction of native contacts during the
simulation in gromacs. I searched the archives but didn't found any
significant clue.
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Re: [gmx-users] steered pulling code on ligand-receptor complex

2012-10-31 Thread Jianguo Li
If you position restraint the receptor or only use several residues at the 
binding site, in both cases you limit your sampling to a small part of the 
phase space and the PMF may not be accurate, since the receptor may undergo 
conformational change upon ligand binding.
Cheers
--Jianguo



- Original Message -
From: 范聪 
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 20:04
Subject: [gmx-users] steered pulling code on ligand-receptor complex


Hello, everyone!
    I'm a new user in gromacs, and now I have to perform a steered pulling code 
on a ligand-receptor complex. The ligand is to be pulled away from the binding 
site of the receptor, and umbrella sampling will be used to gain the PMF 
(potential mean force) curve. Then  binding energy of the ligand-receptor 
complex would be estimated.  The receptor contains 303 residues. While the 
ligand is pulling away, the whole receptor is restrained by posres, 1000 in x, 
y and z axis.
   Since the receptor is so large and umbrella sampling needs so much 
calculations, a very long time will be taken to complete the work.
   Now I have my question, is there anyway to reduce the taken time? Such as 
keeping only residues near the binding site to respect the whole receptor?
   Thank you all in advance!

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