Re: [gmx-users] converting amber distributed parameters to gromacs.

2012-11-07 Thread Felipe Pineda, PhD

ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/amb2gmx.pl


On 11/07/2012 09:45 AM, Rajiv Gandhi wrote:

Dear Gromacs user,

I have found the parameters file for my ligand which is available in AMBER
distribution parameter database, Could you advice me how do i use them in
running over MD in gromacs? Thanks in advance,


Regards

Raju


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[gmx-users] Polarisation model

2012-11-07 Thread Volker Lesch

Dear all,

I am a new Gromacs user. In the past I used AMBER, but because of 
performance and technical reason I want to switch to Gromacs. Actually, 
I have one big problem namely polarisation. In AMBER I used the atomic 
point dipole model but this one is not implemented in Gromacs (please 
correct me if I am wrong). Are there any experienced data which compare 
the two models, atomic point dipole and shell??


Kind regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] converting amber distributed parameters to gromacs.

2012-11-07 Thread Rajiv Gandhi
Could you please tell how do i use this script over amber file? Thanks.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD 
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 ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/**amb2gmx.plhttp://ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/amb2gmx.pl



 On 11/07/2012 09:45 AM, Rajiv Gandhi wrote:

 Dear Gromacs user,

 I have found the parameters file for my ligand which is available in AMBER
 distribution parameter database, Could you advice me how do i use them in
 running over MD in gromacs? Thanks in advance,


 Regards

 Raju


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Re: [gmx-users] converting amber distributed parameters to gromacs.

2012-11-07 Thread Felipe Pineda, PhD

There is not too much to say: the script is self-explanatory.

Look also: 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Force_Fields/AMBER?highlight=antechamber


On 11/07/2012 10:27 AM, Rajiv Gandhi wrote:

Could you please tell how do i use this script over amber file? Thanks.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Felipe Pineda, PhD 
luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se wrote:


ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/**amb2gmx.plhttp://ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/amb2gmx.pl



On 11/07/2012 09:45 AM, Rajiv Gandhi wrote:


Dear Gromacs user,

I have found the parameters file for my ligand which is available in AMBER
distribution parameter database, Could you advice me how do i use them in
running over MD in gromacs? Thanks in advance,


Regards

Raju


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Re: [gmx-users] Polarisation model

2012-11-07 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-11-07 10:21, Volker Lesch wrote:

Dear all,

I am a new Gromacs user. In the past I used AMBER, but because of
performance and technical reason I want to switch to Gromacs. Actually,
I have one big problem namely polarisation. In AMBER I used the atomic
point dipole model but this one is not implemented in Gromacs (please
correct me if I am wrong). Are there any experienced data which compare
the two models, atomic point dipole and shell??

Kind regards,
Volker

This is not implemented. The shell model works but with limited 
functionality, such that the Charmm model does not work completely. It 
would be interesting to have such a comparison although I expect few 
significant differences.


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Re: [gmx-users] Polarisation model

2012-11-07 Thread Volker Lesch

On 11/07/2012 11:19 AM, David van der Spoel wrote:

On 2012-11-07 10:21, Volker Lesch wrote:

Dear all,

I am a new Gromacs user. In the past I used AMBER, but because of
performance and technical reason I want to switch to Gromacs. Actually,
I have one big problem namely polarisation. In AMBER I used the atomic
point dipole model but this one is not implemented in Gromacs (please
correct me if I am wrong). Are there any experienced data which compare
the two models, atomic point dipole and shell??

Kind regards,
Volker

This is not implemented. The shell model works but with limited 
functionality, such that the Charmm model does not work completely. It 
would be interesting to have such a comparison although I expect few 
significant differences.



Hallo,

thanks for this reply. So the shell model only works for simple systems 
like water. Is this correct? What are the exact limitations?


Kind regards,
Volker

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Re: [gmx-users] Polarisation model

2012-11-07 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-11-07 11:24, Volker Lesch wrote:

On 11/07/2012 11:19 AM, David van der Spoel wrote:

On 2012-11-07 10:21, Volker Lesch wrote:

Dear all,

I am a new Gromacs user. In the past I used AMBER, but because of
performance and technical reason I want to switch to Gromacs. Actually,
I have one big problem namely polarisation. In AMBER I used the atomic
point dipole model but this one is not implemented in Gromacs (please
correct me if I am wrong). Are there any experienced data which compare
the two models, atomic point dipole and shell??

Kind regards,
Volker


This is not implemented. The shell model works but with limited
functionality, such that the Charmm model does not work completely. It
would be interesting to have such a comparison although I expect few
significant differences.


Hallo,

thanks for this reply. So the shell model only works for simple systems
like water. Is this correct? What are the exact limitations?

Kind regards,
Volker

In Charmm there are additional terms for screening like the Thole 
potential, which is implemented in gmx but not really debugged 
thoroughly yet. However, the Charmm people also use some kind of 
non-bonded screening that is not implemented.



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Re: [gmx-users] Protein at given pH

2012-11-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/7/12 4:19 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Dear Gmx Users,

I am trying to simulate protein-ligand interactions at specific pH=5.
I processed my protein.pdb into the H++. As I see from th titration
curve of the entire molecule it appears that at pH=5 the total charge
should be equal to 2. When I process the obtained pdb from the server
to pdb2gmx using -ignh I get the total charge of -3. Can anyone
explain me this?



pdb2gmx chooses protonation states based on the assumption that you're working 
at neutral pH.  If you want some alternate protonation state for certain 
residues, you have to choose them yourself using the various options that 
pdb2gmx provides for this purpose.



In terms of small molecules how can I get parameters at specific pH? I
am using Charmm and parachem.org does not support pH changes. Can
anyone advise?



pKa values for most common groups should make the protonation state at a given 
pH fairly straightforward, otherwise you need to calculate the pKa's in some way 
and adjust the molecule's protonation accordingly.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Protein at given pH

2012-11-07 Thread Steven Neumann
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 11/7/12 4:19 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Dear Gmx Users,

 I am trying to simulate protein-ligand interactions at specific pH=5.
 I processed my protein.pdb into the H++. As I see from th titration
 curve of the entire molecule it appears that at pH=5 the total charge
 should be equal to 2. When I process the obtained pdb from the server
 to pdb2gmx using -ignh I get the total charge of -3. Can anyone
 explain me this?


 pdb2gmx chooses protonation states based on the assumption that you're
 working at neutral pH.  If you want some alternate protonation state for
 certain residues, you have to choose them yourself using the various options
 that pdb2gmx provides for this purpose.

Thank you Justin. So do not understand why this server produce pdb
file which is redundant as you have to use -his -glu etc. flags
anyway. According to pK - this server predicts pK for each residue and
when my pH  pKa it is protonated, otherwise it is deprotonated,
right? How about pH = pKa ?

Steven



 In terms of small molecules how can I get parameters at specific pH? I
 am using Charmm and parachem.org does not support pH changes. Can
 anyone advise?


 pKa values for most common groups should make the protonation state at a
 given pH fairly straightforward, otherwise you need to calculate the pKa's
 in some way and adjust the molecule's protonation accordingly.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Protein at given pH

2012-11-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/7/12 7:10 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



On 11/7/12 4:19 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:


Dear Gmx Users,

I am trying to simulate protein-ligand interactions at specific pH=5.
I processed my protein.pdb into the H++. As I see from th titration
curve of the entire molecule it appears that at pH=5 the total charge
should be equal to 2. When I process the obtained pdb from the server
to pdb2gmx using -ignh I get the total charge of -3. Can anyone
explain me this?



pdb2gmx chooses protonation states based on the assumption that you're
working at neutral pH.  If you want some alternate protonation state for
certain residues, you have to choose them yourself using the various options
that pdb2gmx provides for this purpose.


Thank you Justin. So do not understand why this server produce pdb
file which is redundant as you have to use -his -glu etc. flags
anyway. According to pK - this server predicts pK for each residue and
when my pH  pKa it is protonated, otherwise it is deprotonated,
right? How about pH = pKa ?


If you're using the H++ server, it has no connection to Gromacs in any way. 
Your command line uses -ignh, so any hope of guessing the protonation state from 
the input is lost and thus you have to use interactive selection to counteract 
that effect or otherwise hope that all the atomic nomenclature is right so that 
pdb2gmx doesn't complain too much.


If pH = pKa, then your life is tougher.  In solution, 50% of the residues in the 
protein molecules will be protonated, 50% deprotonated.  You may have to model 
both protonation states if this is the case.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Protein at given pH

2012-11-07 Thread Steven Neumann
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 11/7/12 7:10 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/7/12 4:19 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:


 Dear Gmx Users,

 I am trying to simulate protein-ligand interactions at specific pH=5.
 I processed my protein.pdb into the H++. As I see from th titration
 curve of the entire molecule it appears that at pH=5 the total charge
 should be equal to 2. When I process the obtained pdb from the server
 to pdb2gmx using -ignh I get the total charge of -3. Can anyone
 explain me this?


 pdb2gmx chooses protonation states based on the assumption that you're
 working at neutral pH.  If you want some alternate protonation state for
 certain residues, you have to choose them yourself using the various
 options
 that pdb2gmx provides for this purpose.


 Thank you Justin. So do not understand why this server produce pdb
 file which is redundant as you have to use -his -glu etc. flags
 anyway. According to pK - this server predicts pK for each residue and
 when my pH  pKa it is protonated, otherwise it is deprotonated,
 right? How about pH = pKa ?


 If you're using the H++ server, it has no connection to Gromacs in any way.
 Your command line uses -ignh, so any hope of guessing the protonation state
 from the input is lost and thus you have to use interactive selection to
 counteract that effect or otherwise hope that all the atomic nomenclature is
 right so that pdb2gmx doesn't complain too much.

 If pH = pKa, then your life is tougher.  In solution, 50% of the residues in
 the protein molecules will be protonated, 50% deprotonated.  You may have to
 model both protonation states if this is the case.


 -Justin

Thank you for this!

Steven


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Re: [gmx-users] Protein at given pH

2012-11-07 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

I've used the H++ server myself at times. My experience is that it's rather 
sensitive to the very fine detail of the input structure in some cases. I've 
had situations where H++ suggest one protonation state, then a short md 
simulation takes the system to a slightly different conformation that seem more 
prevalent but that yields another protonation state if sent to H++ again. Use 
all biochemical knowledge that you can muster to check that the output makes 
sense. Focus on residues that you suspect might be important for the overall 
question you address.

That said, pKa calculations are inherently difficult and can probably not be 
done reliably without lots of simulations. As such H++ probably come close to 
what we can currently accomplish within reasonable time for (nearly) static 
structures.

Best,

Erik

7 nov 2012 kl. 10.19 skrev Steven Neumann:

 Dear Gmx Users,
 
 I am trying to simulate protein-ligand interactions at specific pH=5.
 I processed my protein.pdb into the H++. As I see from th titration
 curve of the entire molecule it appears that at pH=5 the total charge
 should be equal to 2. When I process the obtained pdb from the server
 to pdb2gmx using -ignh I get the total charge of -3. Can anyone
 explain me this?
 
 In terms of small molecules how can I get parameters at specific pH? I
 am using Charmm and parachem.org does not support pH changes. Can
 anyone advise?
 
 thank you,
 
 Steven
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Re: [gmx-users] What algorithm does g_sas use?

2012-11-07 Thread Matthew Zwier
Hi Guang,

Be careful with this tool. It's very fast and very good at what it's
designed to do, but it does not appear to be designed to give accurate
single-residue SASA (as you will read in the paper on the method employed).
Definitely use g_sas for entire proteins or large cavities (it's blazing
fast), but consider MSMS or DSSP for single-residue data.

Matt Zwier


On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM, jia jia jzg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks!  I've checked  gromacs v 4.5.5 and got it.
 Seems all version before 4.0.5 doen't have that information..

 Cheers
 Guang


 2012/11/7, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:
 
 
  On 11/7/12 1:18 AM, jia jia wrote:
  Dear gmx users:
  So sorry for bother you. Does any one know what algorithm g_sas
  use? There is no information about algorithm in help file, man page,
  and code. I think gromos use naccess method but not sure  gromacs  use
  the same one.
 
 
  References are printed in the screen output when running g_sas.
 
  -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Protein at given pH

2012-11-07 Thread Steven Neumann
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 Hi,

 I've used the H++ server myself at times. My experience is that it's rather 
 sensitive to the very fine detail of the input structure in some cases. I've 
 had situations where H++ suggest one protonation state, then a short md 
 simulation takes the system to a slightly different conformation that seem 
 more prevalent but that yields another protonation state if sent to H++ 
 again. Use all biochemical knowledge that you can muster to check that the 
 output makes sense. Focus on residues that you suspect might be important for 
 the overall question you address.

 That said, pKa calculations are inherently difficult and can probably not be 
 done reliably without lots of simulations. As such H++ probably come close to 
 what we can currently accomplish within reasonable time for (nearly) static 
 structures.

 Best,

 Erik

Thanks for this! Is it not better just to use pK values from the
literature corresponding to given residue side chain? My protein is an
alpha-helix.

Thanks,

Steven



 7 nov 2012 kl. 10.19 skrev Steven Neumann:

 Dear Gmx Users,

 I am trying to simulate protein-ligand interactions at specific pH=5.
 I processed my protein.pdb into the H++. As I see from th titration
 curve of the entire molecule it appears that at pH=5 the total charge
 should be equal to 2. When I process the obtained pdb from the server
 to pdb2gmx using -ignh I get the total charge of -3. Can anyone
 explain me this?

 In terms of small molecules how can I get parameters at specific pH? I
 am using Charmm and parachem.org does not support pH changes. Can
 anyone advise?

 thank you,

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Re: [gmx-users] Protein at given pH

2012-11-07 Thread Erik Marklund

7 nov 2012 kl. 16.21 skrev Steven Neumann:

 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've used the H++ server myself at times. My experience is that it's rather 
 sensitive to the very fine detail of the input structure in some cases. I've 
 had situations where H++ suggest one protonation state, then a short md 
 simulation takes the system to a slightly different conformation that seem 
 more prevalent but that yields another protonation state if sent to H++ 
 again. Use all biochemical knowledge that you can muster to check that the 
 output makes sense. Focus on residues that you suspect might be important 
 for the overall question you address.
 
 That said, pKa calculations are inherently difficult and can probably not be 
 done reliably without lots of simulations. As such H++ probably come close 
 to what we can currently accomplish within reasonable time for (nearly) 
 static structures.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik
 
 Thanks for this! Is it not better just to use pK values from the
 literature corresponding to given residue side chain? My protein is an
 alpha-helix.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steven
 

If such (reliable) data is available, then yes. Or it may serve as validation.

Erik

 
 
 7 nov 2012 kl. 10.19 skrev Steven Neumann:
 
 Dear Gmx Users,
 
 I am trying to simulate protein-ligand interactions at specific pH=5.
 I processed my protein.pdb into the H++. As I see from th titration
 curve of the entire molecule it appears that at pH=5 the total charge
 should be equal to 2. When I process the obtained pdb from the server
 to pdb2gmx using -ignh I get the total charge of -3. Can anyone
 explain me this?
 
 In terms of small molecules how can I get parameters at specific pH? I
 am using Charmm and parachem.org does not support pH changes. Can
 anyone advise?
 
 thank you,
 
 Steven
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[gmx-users] Double entries in block structure--problem with SHAKE

2012-11-07 Thread tarak karmakar
Dear All,

As I am facing the following problem while using SHAKE to constrain
some bonds, I have checked the mailing list but I think, this issue
has not been resolved. So if anyone knows the solution kindly inform
me.

Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: invblock.c, line: 79

Fatal error:
Double entries in block structure. Item 5247 is in blocks 1371 and 1370
 Cannot make an unambiguous inverse block.


Actually I need to fix some of the ligand bonds along with the
covalent h-bonds (C-H, N-H, O-H etc.).
What do you suggest to use for this multiple constraining problem ?
Should I use SHAKE/LINCS for both type of bonds or anything else ?

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Re: [gmx-users] Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-07 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

Sure you can go beyond 24 cores. I'm currently simulating ~170 000 atoms on 192 
cores at ~45 ns a day. with half the number of processors I get ~27 ns a day. 
It will of course depend on the hardware, particular algorithms, run 
parameters, and on the system details.

Erik

7 nov 2012 kl. 16.51 skrev Marcelo Depolo:

 Good afternoon,
 
 
 I wonder if anyone has experience running Gromacs in MPI. I'm paralleling the
 processes and want to know how many processors reduces the computation time to
 the minimum. I am currently using 24 processors for a system of 170 000
 atoms and obtaining a simulation of 50ns in 15 days. There's a way to
 reduce more this computational time?
 
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[gmx-users] Temperature Histogram

2012-11-07 Thread Samadashvili Nino
Hello,

  I would like to calculate temperature in my system along the axis. Could you 
please tell me if there is a way to make a temperature histogram with Gromacs?

Thank you for your attention.

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Re: [gmx-users] Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-07 Thread Marcelo Depolo
Hi Erik,


That's good news! But i've got problems using more than one node per
simulation (24 cores per node in my cluster). I don't know if it's a
parallelization
script problem or anything else. I'm using PBS scripts like this:

*#!/bin/bash

#PBS -N Gromacs
#PBS -lselect=1:ncpus=24
#PBS -m ae
#PBS -M marcelo@x

date

cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR

source  /usr/share/modules/init/bash

source $HOME/gromacs

module load mpi-lam7

HOSTLIST=`cat $PBS_NODEFILE  |paste -s -d ,`
cat $PBS_NODEFILE
lamboot $PBS_NODEFILE
mpirun -np 24 $HOME/bin/mdrun -e prt.edr -v -s prt.tpr -o prt.trr -c
prt.gro -g

date*

I have tried to raise the number of nodes, of cores and both. I've got
nothing.
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[gmx-users] Re: Self-diffusion in high temperature water

2012-11-07 Thread Jose Ignacio Marquez
Sorry for the bump, but, please, does anybody know something of any study
of the self-diffusion frequency spectrum of water done with GROMACS?
I am not sure if it is something I am doing wrong, or if that is simple not
possible to model with the program.

Thanks,
 Ignacio

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Jose Ignacio Marquez 
nachomarq...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I came across the following problem: when I calculate the frequency
 spectrum for high temperature (523 K) water, the results are inconsistent
 with the literature and analytical self-diffusion models.

 I am trying to reproduce the calculations by Martí, Guardia and Padro[1]
 of the vibrational spectrum of water along the liquid-vapor coexistence
 line. To do this, I first equilibrate the configuration for a given
 temperature and pressure for 10 o 20 ps with a short (0.1 fs) timestep, and
 then run the simulation for another 20 ps with the same timestep, dumping
 the velocity to the .trr file every few frames ([2] is the input file).
 Then, using g_velacc, I compute the VACF for H, O and the center of mass
 velocities.

 To compute the frequency spectrum I first compute the VACF for negative
 times as VACF(t) = VACF(t), and then calculate the FFT of the simmetrized
 VACF.

 I have done this for different flexible water models (SPC, SPC/E, TIP4P,
 TIP4P/2005) and all seem to reproduce the main features of the frequency
 spectrum, with slight variations.

 But, for some reason, the shape of the frequency spectra at low energies
 differs from what it should be expected for a diffusive regime. Instead of
 getting a Lorentzian shape, the limit of the spectrum for omega - 0 is a
 decreasing exponential. At first I thought this could have been caused by
 one particular water model, but actually I find the same behavior for all
 models, with different rho(omega=0) values, caused by different estimates
 of the diffusion coefficient.

 At ambient temperature (300 K), the Lorentzian shape is masked by the
 presence of intermolecular vibrations (Hydrogen bond bending and
 stretching), but at higher temperatures (523 K) diffusion dominate and the
 characteristic Lorentzian shape should be seen. To compare, I plotted[3]
 the spectrum of center of mass velocity computed at 523K with TIP5P/2005
 Flex and the (scaled) spectrum of oxygen velocity, computed by Marti et al.

 I suspect the problem might be with tuning the options of GROMACS to
 ensure that the long time behavior is correctly represented, but I am
 fairly new to GROMACS and MD in general and I don't know how to achieve it.
 I tried running for longer times -up to 1 ns-, I tried running on double
 precision to ensure that is not a rounding problem, I tried to run on a
 larger system (to get a more converged statistical average), I modified
 g_velacc to save the VACF with more significant digits... but nothing seems
 to solve it.

 Any help on this will be appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,
 Ignacio


 [1] 
 http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.471932http://link.aip.org/link/doi/10.1063/1.471932
 [2] http://pastebin.com/z4bC5ZYZ
 [3] http://i.imgur.com/53R21.jpg


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Re: [gmx-users] Temperature Histogram

2012-11-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/7/12 11:42 AM, Samadashvili Nino wrote:

Hello,

   I would like to calculate temperature in my system along the axis. Could you 
please tell me if there is a way to make a temperature histogram with Gromacs?



Use g_energy to extract temperatures from the .edr file, then g_analyze -dist on 
that .xvg file.


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Re: [gmx-users] Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-07 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

I looked at one of my old pbs jobs and noted that the following line works for 
me:
#PBS -l nodes=X:ppn=Y
where X is the number of nodes and ppn is the number of cores per node. Perhaps 
your batch system uses a different dialect.

What errors do you get when you aim for more than one node?

Furthermore, are you using virtual sites and constraints for your simulations? 
If not then you might be able to increase your simulation speed manifold.

Erik

7 nov 2012 kl. 17.50 skrev Marcelo Depolo:

 Hi Erik,
 
 
 That's good news! But i've got problems using more than one node per
 simulation (24 cores per node in my cluster). I don't know if it's a
 parallelization
 script problem or anything else. I'm using PBS scripts like this:
 
 *#!/bin/bash
 
 #PBS -N Gromacs
 #PBS -lselect=1:ncpus=24
 #PBS -m ae
 #PBS -M marcelo@x
 
 date
 
 cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR
 
 source  /usr/share/modules/init/bash
 
 source $HOME/gromacs
 
 module load mpi-lam7
 
 HOSTLIST=`cat $PBS_NODEFILE  |paste -s -d ,`
 cat $PBS_NODEFILE
 lamboot $PBS_NODEFILE
 mpirun -np 24 $HOME/bin/mdrun -e prt.edr -v -s prt.tpr -o prt.trr -c
 prt.gro -g
 
 date*
 
 I have tried to raise the number of nodes, of cores and both. I've got
 nothing.
 Do you have any suggestions?
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Re: [gmx-users] Double entries in block structure--problem with SHAKE

2012-11-07 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/7/12 10:46 AM, tarak karmakar wrote:

Dear All,

As I am facing the following problem while using SHAKE to constrain
some bonds, I have checked the mailing list but I think, this issue
has not been resolved. So if anyone knows the solution kindly inform
me.

Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file: invblock.c, line: 79

Fatal error:
Double entries in block structure. Item 5247 is in blocks 1371 and 1370
  Cannot make an unambiguous inverse block.


Actually I need to fix some of the ligand bonds along with the
covalent h-bonds (C-H, N-H, O-H etc.).
What do you suggest to use for this multiple constraining problem ?
Should I use SHAKE/LINCS for both type of bonds or anything else ?



Can you explain in a bit greater depth what you're trying to do?  Are you trying 
to constrain distances between atoms that are not covalently bonded?  In that 
case, restraints are likely more appropriate than constraints, but we'll need 
more detail before anyone can give you any really productive suggestions.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-07 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

I usually go with openMPI. I think there are issues with LAM, but other 
probably know more about that.

Erik

7 nov 2012 kl. 19.36 skrev Marcelo Depolo:

 Hi guys.
 
 
 I've tried your suggestions and had no sucess. I've got no resources
 available error but I checked out and 50% of the nodes are available.
 Perhaps, could be a library problem? Here, I compiled gromacs with MPI-LAM
 7. Are you using another one?
 
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Re: [gmx-users] What algorithm does g_sas use?

2012-11-07 Thread jia jia
Thanks Matt!  I've seen some vmd tcl scripts using msms to get the
surface area. However I think as gromacs using united atom, I need too
change radii parameters or in a more simple way, add all hydrogen back
before  calculation

Cheers
Guang


2012/11/8, Matthew Zwier mczw...@gmail.com:
 Hi Guang,

 Be careful with this tool. It's very fast and very good at what it's
 designed to do, but it does not appear to be designed to give accurate
 single-residue SASA (as you will read in the paper on the method employed).
 Definitely use g_sas for entire proteins or large cavities (it's blazing
 fast), but consider MSMS or DSSP for single-residue data.

 Matt Zwier


 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:26 AM, jia jia jzg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks!  I've checked  gromacs v 4.5.5 and got it.
 Seems all version before 4.0.5 doen't have that information..

 Cheers
 Guang


 2012/11/7, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu:
 
 
  On 11/7/12 1:18 AM, jia jia wrote:
  Dear gmx users:
  So sorry for bother you. Does any one know what algorithm g_sas
  use? There is no information about algorithm in help file, man page,
  and code. I think gromos use naccess method but not sure  gromacs  use
  the same one.
 
 
  References are printed in the screen output when running g_sas.
 
  -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-07 Thread Marcelo Depolo
I thought that at first, but other softwares run in parallel. If there's a
problem, it' s somehow in the PBS.

My guess is that my PBS don't allow the LAM library see others nodes. But
I have no clue where the problem could be.
I've tried eliminating the node=X and got the error. I've tried use
node=2 (or any number higher than 1) and it goes to the queue even if
there is empty nodes.

I'm almost trying to compile gromacs again but now with OpemMPI...
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Fwd: [gmx-users] Re: Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-07 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Marcelo Depolo marcelodep...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought that at first, but other softwares run in parallel. If there's a
 problem, it' s somehow in the PBS.

 My guess is that my PBS don't allow the LAM library see others nodes. But
 I have no clue where the problem could be.

I would be very surprised if this is true. The nornal sequences of
events during submission process is the following:

1) The system looks into your submission script and finds out the
resource requirements.

2) If the requirements are met, the job gets R status and the
remaining commands (which do not start with #PBS) are executed.

3) If there is a problem with the message parallel interface or the
[scientific] code, the job dies with some MPI-specific error message,
or with code-specific message, or usually both of them.

What I see in your report, your error message comes from PBS, i.e.
neither MPI nor gromacs are launched.


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[gmx-users] Re: Running Gromacs in Clusters

2012-11-07 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Dr. Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Marcelo Depolo marcelodep...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I thought that at first, but other softwares run in parallel. If there's a
 problem, it' s somehow in the PBS.

 My guess is that my PBS don't allow the LAM library see others nodes. But
 I have no clue where the problem could be.

 I would be very surprised if this is true. The nornal sequences of
 events during submission process is the following:

 1) The system looks into your submission script and finds out the
 resource requirements.

 2) If the requirements are met, the job gets R status and the
 remaining commands (which do not start with #PBS) are executed.

 3) If there is a problem with the message parallel interface or the
 [scientific] code, the job dies with some MPI-specific error message,
 or with code-specific message, or usually both of them.

 What I see in your report, your error message comes from PBS, i.e.
 neither MPI nor gromacs are launched.



Are you stating that other programs on your cluster run successfully
on multiple nodes using the same (the #PBS part) submission script and
only gromacs-jobs complain about lack of resources? I cannot
believe...


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Re: [gmx-users] Double entries in block structure--problem with SHAKE

2012-11-07 Thread tarak karmakar
Oh ! I'm sorry Justin

Actually in my system I need to fix three types of bonds

1) Metal-Ligand distance at a particular value given in PDB ( not covalent)
2) I need to fix some of the bond lengths (covalent) for the substrate molecule.
3) Lastly the covalent H-bonds ( C-H, N-H, O-H etc.)


My input .mdp file is given below

; 7.3.3 Run Control
integrator  = md-vv ; md integrator
tinit   = 0 ; [ps] starting time for run
dt  = 0.001 ; [ps] time step for integration
nsteps  = 500   ; maximum number of
steps to integrate, 0.001 * 20,00,000 = 2 ns
nstcomm = 1 ; [steps] frequency of
mass motion removal
comm_grps   = Protein Non-Protein   ; group(s) for center
of mass motion removal

; 7.3.8 Output Control
nstxout = 5000 ; [steps] freq to write
coordinates to trajectory
nstvout = 5000 ; [steps] freq to write
velocities to trajectory
nstfout = 5000 ; [steps] freq to write
forces to trajectory
nstlog  = 1000 ; [steps] freq to write
energies to log file
nstenergy   = 1000 ; [steps] freq to write
energies to energy file
nstxtcout   = 1000 ; [steps] freq to write
coordinates to xtc trajectory
xtc_precision   = 1000 ; [real] precision to
write xtc trajectory
xtc_grps= System; group(s) to write to
xtc trajectory
energygrps  = System; group(s) to write to
energy file

; 7.3.9 Neighbor Searching
nstlist = 1 ; [steps] freq to
update neighbor list
ns_type = grid  ; method of updating
neighbor list
pbc = xyz   ; periodic boundary
conditions in all directions
rlist   = 1.2   ; [nm] cut-off
distance for the short-range neighbor list

nsttcouple  = 1
nstpcouple  = 1

; 7.3.10 Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle-Mesh Ewald
electrostatics
rcoulomb= 1.2   ; [nm] distance for
Coulomb cut-off

; 7.3.11 VdW
vdwtype = cut-off   ; twin-range cut-off
with rlist where rvdw = rlist
rvdw= 1.2   ; [nm] distance for LJ cut-off
DispCorr= EnerPres  ; apply long range
dispersion corrections for energy

; 7.3.13 Ewald
fourierspacing  = 0.12  ; [nm] grid spacing
for FFT grid when using PME
pme_order   = 4 ; interpolation order
for PME, 4 = cubic
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5  ; relative strength of
Ewald-shifted potential at rcoulomb

; 7.3.14 Temperature Coupling
tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover   ; Nose-Hoover
temperature coupling
tc_grps = ProteinNon-Protein; groups to
couple seperately to temperature bath
tau_t   = 1.01.0; [ps] time
constant for coupling
ref_t   = 300300; [K]
reference temperature for coupling

; 7.3.15 Pressure Coupling
pcoupl  = MTTK  ; pressure
coupling where box vectors are variable
pcoupltype  = isotropic ; pressure
coupling in x-y-z directions
tau_p   = 1.0   ; [ps] time
constant for coupling
compressibility = 4.5e-5; [bar^-1]
compressibility
ref_p   = 1.0   ; [bar]
reference pressure for coupling

; 7.3.17 Velocity Generation
gen_vel = no; velocity
generation turned off

; 7.3.18 Bonds
constraints = h-bonds
constraint_algorithm= SHAKE ; SHAKE
Constraint Solver
shake_tol   = 1.0e-5




So I'm bit confused how to implement constraints algorithm for these
type of problem.
Thanks


On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 11/7/12 10:46 AM, tarak karmakar wrote:

 Dear All,

 As I am facing the following problem while using SHAKE to constrain
 some bonds, I have checked the mailing list but I think, this issue
 has not been resolved. So if anyone knows the solution kindly inform
 me.

 Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.5
 Source code file: invblock.c, line: 79

 Fatal error:
 Double entries in block structure. Item 5247 is in blocks 1371 and 1370
   Cannot make an unambiguous inverse block.


 Actually I need to fix some of the ligand bonds along with the
 covalent h-bonds (C-H, N-H, O-H etc.).
 What do you suggest to use for this multiple constraining problem ?

[gmx-users] comparing gmx GB energy with Amber11

2012-11-07 Thread Sandeep Somani
Hi,

I am comparing single point amber ff energies from gmx4.5.5 (double
precision) and Amber11.

All bonded and non-bonded energy terms are in very good agreement (within
0.1 kJ/mol) except GB:
 gmx 'GB polarization' = -200 kJ/mol
 amber 11 'EGB' = -283 kJ/mol.

I am basically trying to replicate Amber's igb=5 + large cutoff in gmx.
According to Amber manual igb=5 corresponds to model 2 of [2004 OBC
paper].

I translated this to the following mdp options:
  
implicit_solvent= GBSA
gb_algorithm= OBC
All cut-offs (rcoulomb, rvdw, rlist, rgbradii) larger than the size of the
molecule.
{gb_epsilon_solvent, gb_saltconc, gb_obc_alpha, gb_obc_beta, gb_obc_gamma,
gb_dielectric_offset} = corresponding Amber input.
  

Is that correct?

I realize that this is as much a question for Amber mailing list, but
trying here first! Any idea?

The molecule is ala-12. I'll be happy to send input files.

Thanks in advance

Sandeep

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