Re: [gmx-users] constraining multiple types of bonds

2012-11-11 Thread tarak karmakar
thanks a lot Justin
I'll try to follow this protocol.

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 11/10/12 10:27 PM, tarak karmakar wrote:

 Thanks Justin

 If I want to constrain all the bonds in the substrate molecule present
 inside the enzyme cavity then along with SHAKE what I need to use ?


 Set constraints = none in the .mdp file and add an explicit [constraints]
 section in the ligand topology.


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Re: [gmx-users] About periodic image of system.......

2012-11-11 Thread rama david
Hi justin ,

Thank you a lot for your explaination.

My opinion  on the working of g_mindist -pi is that when it shows the
distance between two atom
of the protein is less than vdw cut off ( 1.4 nm ) , then protein see it
periodic image, and it is the violation of pbc.
Is these is right??? ( That is the shortest Periodic distance should be
larger than vdw cut off 1.4 )

If it is right, g_mindist say that  The shortest periodic distance is
0.154938 (nm) at time 16162 (ps),
between atoms 223 and 3270
This is less than 1.4 then Why it is not problem..???


As per your previous reply,


The confusion likely arises from the fact that you're selecting Protein,
which actually contains multiple molecules, rather than a single protein
molecule.  Atoms can come pretty close during a simulation, especially if
they are involved in, for instance, hydrogen bonds.

These means whenever I have to check the protein pbc , I have to make the
index file for each chain, and have to select the pbc for that???

Please accept my apology if I repiting  the same  questions. but it is
really confusing to me..

With best Wishes and Regards..
Rama david





On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/10/12 10:22 AM, rama david wrote:

 Thank you justin,

 I actually check these file in vmd by seeing its periodic image , but
 I not seen any problem in PBC.

 As per you, If protein contain multiple chain, I have to make the index
 group for each one.
 Then I have to check each one by g_mindist -pi   Is these right???


 I suspect that would be more appropriate.


  But what wiil be the problem if I used the whole group
 Still I not get the your explanation..Pardon me, but please explain it
 again??


 I don't know how to say it differently.  The minimum image convention,
 periodicity, and neighbor searching are all covered in almost every
 simulation textbook, and some elements are described on gromacs.org and
 in the manual.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re:Ka/Kd

2012-11-11 Thread lloyd riggs
Dear Justin,

Thanks, Just a normal delta G then.  I wondered if it also was doing a matrices 
from 2 columns if you supply something like just the 2d output from 
covar/anaeig (PCA).  I did find a simple python 6 liner for just doing PCA with 
the first (or any 2) derivatives just using numpy, and some module written by 
tsjerk Wassenaar posted a few years ago (a Gromacs plugin called g_entropy) 
which all together seem to meet my needs.  Also (the above person) has a number 
of small python scripts for Gromacs for matirces, PCA, and just turning .xpm 
data from g_sham into a number matrices to put into a plotting tool (such as 
Scidavis or something).  There on a web page, and a few dozen just scattered in 
older gromacs postings.

If I had a request for Gromacs dev though it would be to multithread the vector 
portions of the analytical tools.  A single Intel i7 or AMD only uses one of 
the 8 cores, so it takes several hours, for each component times each of 
however trajectories are looked at.  Most everything else is a minute or two 
only using a single core.

Sincerely,

Stephan Watkins

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:44:31 -0500
 Von: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 An: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Betreff: Re: [gmx-users] Re:Ka/Kd

 
 
 On 11/9/12 1:02 PM, lloyd riggs wrote:
  Dear All,
 
  Reguarding a question I asked below.  Does anyone know what the
 formulei, etc...are for g_sham taking in 2 columns (or 3 with time) and 
 turning it
 into a density matrix.  Is it just a count, summation on x-y or other?
 
 
 Values are divided into histograms and calculated by dG = -RT ln (P - P0),
 where 
 P0 is the histogram bin with the largest probability such that the value
 of dG 
 is set to zero here and all other values are relative to it.
 
 -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] problem with simulation of freezing of water

2012-11-11 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/12 9:53 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear All users

I  did simulation of water freezind at low temperature(260 k) so that
i was hoped to see
regular structure of ice,

I used OPLS-AA force field, SPC and 100ns,

But i can not see the regular structure of ice(i used vmd for
representation of my simulation)?

In your opinion, Where did i mistake in my simulation?

Where did i mistake in my simulation?



The freezing point of a water model for MD simulation is not necessarily equal 
to the actual freezing point of water.  See, for instance 
http://iopscience.iop.org/0953-8984/17/45/013/pdf/cm5_45_013.pdf.  There are 
probably other papers, as well, but one can find this easily by Googling 
freezing point of SPC water.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re:Ka/Kd

2012-11-11 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/12 7:47 AM, lloyd riggs wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thanks, Just a normal delta G then.  I wondered if it also was doing a matrices 
from 2 columns if you supply something like just the 2d output from 
covar/anaeig (PCA).  I did find a simple python 6 liner for just doing PCA with 
the first (or any 2) derivatives just using numpy, and some module written by 
tsjerk Wassenaar posted a few years ago (a Gromacs plugin called g_entropy) 
which all together seem to meet my needs.  Also (the above person) has a number 
of small python scripts for Gromacs for matirces, PCA, and just turning .xpm 
data from g_sham into a number matrices to put into a plotting tool (such as 
Scidavis or something).  There on a web page, and a few dozen just scattered in 
older gromacs postings.

If I had a request for Gromacs dev though it would be to multithread the vector 
portions of the analytical tools.  A single Intel i7 or AMD only uses one of 
the 8 cores, so it takes several hours, for each component times each of 
however trajectories are looked at.  Most everything else is a minute or two 
only using a single core.



Framework for parallelizing analysis tools is in the works, with a target of 
version 5.0 for implementation, since the code is undergoing a major overhaul 
for that release, anyway.  It will be a long time before that release, though, 
but it's in the works.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] About periodic image of system.......

2012-11-11 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/12 4:51 AM, rama david wrote:

Hi justin ,

Thank you a lot for your explaination.

My opinion  on the working of g_mindist -pi is that when it shows the
distance between two atom
of the protein is less than vdw cut off ( 1.4 nm ) , then protein see it
periodic image, and it is the violation of pbc.
Is these is right??? ( That is the shortest Periodic distance should be
larger than vdw cut off 1.4 )



This is correct, when considering a single molecule, i.e. it can't see itself. 
If you have two proteins, and you choose the blanket Protein group, you 
haven't determined anything, because now the calculation involves multiple 
molecules.



If it is right, g_mindist say that  The shortest periodic distance is
0.154938 (nm) at time 16162 (ps),
between atoms 223 and 3270
This is less than 1.4 then Why it is not problem..???



Because they're in separate molecules.  Did you ever do as I suggested and 
visualize this frame?  It will be immediately apparent that there is no problem. 
 Please refer to textbooks or even simple Google searching for explanations of 
the minimum image convention.  As I said, it is described in almost every 
reference text.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re:problem with simulation of freezing of water

2012-11-11 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/11/12 11:22 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear Justin

Thank you for reply,

I want to simulation of water freezing, my condition:

pressure=300 bar and T=240 k , number 1656, run time= 100ns,

I can not see regular structure of ice by MD simulation or by gromacs?

In your opinion, if i want this structure of ice for my simulation,
What can i do?



Start by searching the literature for a suitable protocol.  Ice simulations have 
been done before.  As I said before, each water model has a different melting 
point, and hardly any of them correspond to the actual experimental value.  See 
if you can produce a suitable simulation with a pressure of 1 bar (proof of 
concept) and then change conditions.


What you have to keep in mind is that most water models were designed to work at 
ambient conditions for normal simulations.  They do not necessarily work under 
extremes or produce useful results under those conditions.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re:problem with simulation of freezing of water

2012-11-11 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2012-11-11 17:26, Justin Lemkul wrote:



On 11/11/12 11:22 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear Justin

Thank you for reply,

I want to simulation of water freezing, my condition:

pressure=300 bar and T=240 k , number 1656, run time= 100ns,

I can not see regular structure of ice by MD simulation or by gromacs?

In your opinion, if i want this structure of ice for my simulation,
What can i do?



Start by searching the literature for a suitable protocol.  Ice
simulations have been done before.  As I said before, each water model
has a different melting point, and hardly any of them correspond to the
actual experimental value.  See if you can produce a suitable simulation
with a pressure of 1 bar (proof of concept) and then change conditions.

What you have to keep in mind is that most water models were designed to
work at ambient conditions for normal simulations.  They do not
necessarily work under extremes or produce useful results under those
conditions.

-Justin


Try TIP4P/Ice


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[gmx-users] Re:problem with simulation of freezing of water

2012-11-11 Thread ran friedman
Hi,

Also note that it is difficult to simulate the right structure of ice (Ih).
You didn't write what you want to study, but search the literature
carefully. You may need to use an ab-initio model.

Ran

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On 11/11/12 11:22 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:
 Dear Justin

 Thank you for reply,

 I want to simulation of water freezing, my condition:

 pressure=300 bar and T=240 k , number 1656, run time= 100ns,

 I can not see regular structure of ice by MD simulation or by gromacs?

 In your opinion, if i want this structure of ice for my simulation,
 What can i do?


Start by searching the literature for a suitable protocol.  Ice simulations
have
been done before.  As I said before, each water model has a different
melting
point, and hardly any of them correspond to the actual experimental value.
 See
if you can produce a suitable simulation with a pressure of 1 bar (proof of
concept) and then change conditions.

What you have to keep in mind is that most water models were designed to
work at
ambient conditions for normal simulations.  They do not necessarily work
under
extremes or produce useful results under those conditions.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] problem with simulation of freezing of water

2012-11-11 Thread Erik Marklund
The phase transition of water from liquid to ice is very hard to observe in MD 
simulations. In the lab you can in fact supercool water for minutes without ice 
forming until you trigger the phase transition by e.g. knocking the beaker or 
add nucleating agents. An MD simulation takes place on timescales that are 
many orders of magnitude shorter, so obtaining ice in simulations when 
starting form a liquid system seem as likely as winning a billion dollars and 
getting struck by lightning at the same time.

There are water models that nucleate much more easy than in experiments, which 
may be useful for you.

Best,

Erik


11 nov 2012 kl. 15.53 skrev Ali Alizadeh:

 Dear All users
 
 I  did simulation of water freezind at low temperature(260 k) so that
 i was hoped to see
 regular structure of ice,
 
 I used OPLS-AA force field, SPC and 100ns,
 
 But i can not see the regular structure of ice(i used vmd for
 representation of my simulation)?
 
 In your opinion, Where did i mistake in my simulation?
 
 Where did i mistake in my simulation?
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Re: [gmx-users] problem with MPI

2012-11-11 Thread Szilárd Páll
FYI: If you are planning to run single-node, you don't need MPI. Just
compile with default settings and you'll get a thread-parallel version that
supports MPI parallelization within mdrun based on multi-threading (using
the library thread-MPI). In practice his means that:
$ mdrun -nt 2
will use two CPU cores and if you omit the -nt option it will use all cores
available.


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On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Bahar Mehrpuyan
baharmehrpu...@yahoo.comwrote:

 hi gmx users

 I installed gromacs 4.5.5 on my Ubuntu system , and every thing was OK,
 but when i try to  run  mpirun, the following error appears:
 $ mpirun -np 2 mdrun -v -deffnm md_0_1
 mpiexec_bahar-laptop: cannot connect to local mpd
 (/tmp/mpd2.console_bahar); possible causes:
   1. no mpd is running on this host
   2. an mpd is running but was started without a console (-n option)
 In case 1, you can start an mpd on this host with:
 mpd 
 and you will be able to run jobs just on this host.




 here is the detailed description of installing:

 1) installing openmpi-1.4.1 from package manager

 2)fftw3
 ./configure --prefix=/home/bahar/program --enable-threads --enable-float
 --enable-sse
 make

 make istall

 3)gromacs
 exportCPPFLAGS=-I/home/bahar/program/include

 export LDFLAGS=-L/home/bahar/program/lib

  ./configure --prefix=/home/bahar/4-5-5 --enable-mpi
  make
  make mdrun
  make install
  make install-mdrun

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[gmx-users] how to restart a stopped simulation

2012-11-11 Thread ananyachatterjee


Hi all,

my simulation has stopped due to power failure, can anyone tell me how 
to restart it from the same point.

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Re: [gmx-users] how to restart a stopped simulation

2012-11-11 Thread Kavyashree M
Hi Ananya,

You can refer this.
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Doing_Restarts?highlight=restarting

bye
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Re: [gmx-users] how to restart a stopped simulation

2012-11-11 Thread ananyachatterjee

Hi all,

I have restarted my simulation stopped due to power failure by using 
the command:


mdrun -s md.tpr -cpi state.cpt -append

 And now I am getting the following error:

Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0.7
Source code file: ../../../../src/gmxlib/checkpoint.c, line: 547

Fatal error:
The checkpoint file is empty/corrupted, or maybe you are out of quota?

can any one help in this regards.

I have two .cpt files one state.cpt (0 bytes) and another 
state_prev.cpt file(5.4 MB). Should I have to use state_prev.cpt file to 
restart the simulation?


On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:37:02 +0530, Kavyashree M wrote:

Hi Ananya,

You can refer this.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Doing_Restarts?highlight=restarting

bye
kavya
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Hi all,

my simulation has stopped due to power failure, can anyone tell me 
how to

restart it from the same point.
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[gmx-users] Continuous mdrun vs step-by-step mdrun

2012-11-11 Thread Venkat Reddy
Dear gromacs users,

I have a very basic doubt regarding mdrun. Is there any difference between
doing final MD for 100 ns at  a stretch and doing the same with a 10 ns
step size (*i.e., 10ns20ns30ns100ns*)  on a cluster of 256
processors. I have read some where that continuous MD of longer simulations
will cause spurious drifts in velocity and energy, errors in velocity
correlationetc. Please advise me in this regard.

Thank you and Happy DIWALI

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Re: [gmx-users] how to restart a stopped simulation

2012-11-11 Thread Venkat Reddy
State_prev.cpt is the previous check point file to state.cpt. Usually the
check point file generates for every 15 mins. You can use the
state_prev.cpt because your state.cpt has no data (0 bytes)


On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:54 AM, ananyachatterjee 
ananyachatter...@iiserkol.ac.in wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have restarted my simulation stopped due to power failure by using the
 command:

 mdrun -s md.tpr -cpi state.cpt -append

  And now I am getting the following error:

 Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0.7
 Source code file: ../../../../src/gmxlib/**checkpoint.c, line: 547

 Fatal error:
 The checkpoint file is empty/corrupted, or maybe you are out of quota?

 can any one help in this regards.

 I have two .cpt files one state.cpt (0 bytes) and another state_prev.cpt
 file(5.4 MB). Should I have to use state_prev.cpt file to restart the
 simulation?


 On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:37:02 +0530, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Hi Ananya,

 You can refer this.

 http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/Doing_**
 Restarts?highlight=restartinghttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Doing_Restarts?highlight=restarting

 bye
 kavya
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[gmx-users] do_dssp Segmentation fault

2012-11-11 Thread mshappy1986
Hi all,
   I am meeting the following error in Gromacs 4.5.5 with do_dssp
   Here is the command
   do_dssp -f md.xtc -s md.tpr -o dssp.xpm  
  give me the following error
   segmentation fault  
  I have downloaded the executable DSSP form http://swift.cmbi.ru.nl/gv/dssp/ 
and set the environment variable, but do_dssp did not work.
  How can I fix it?
  Thanks a lot






 



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