Re: [gmx-users] what does it mean by 'started mdrun on node 0'

2012-11-29 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Yihua Zhou,



   Step   Time Lambda
   00.00.0

Energies (kJ/mol)
Bond   G96AngleProper Dih.LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)
 4.19801e+051.40206e+033.49599e+038.36580e+208.17307e+04
   PotentialKinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature Pressure (bar)
 8.36580e+20infinfinfinf


This is the relevant information from your log file. As you can see there
are several terms at infinite. That indicates there's a problem. The
short-range Lennard-Jones is quite high. Probably you have overlaps in your
system. Did you check the system before running, also making sure that the
PBC are set correctly and not cause overlaps?

Cheers,

Tsjerk


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[gmx-users] MM-GB/SA analysis in Gromacs

2012-11-29 Thread Anna Marabotti

Dear gmx-users,

I ran several MD simulations using Gromacs 4.5.4 version, and now I'd 
need to calculate binding free energies using the MM-GBSA method. I 
searched through the manual and through the gmx-users archive, but I 
didn't find a way to do it. I found an old post in which it appeared 
that in the version 4.5 this possibility would have been available 
(http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-July/052302.html), 
but it seems to me that this kind of analysis has not been implemented yet.
In another more recent post, I see that somebody has used mdrun -rerun 
in order to perform calculations, but I don't understand the correct 
procedure to use (apart from the suggestion of using .trr instead of 
.xtc files in order to avoid errors).


Does anyone have suggestions in order to do this analysis with Gromacs 
trajectories, before I make these calculations with another program?


Many thanks in advance and best regards
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Re: [gmx-users] Hbonds between Adenine and Thymine

2012-11-29 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

A general note: make_ndx and index files are not magical in any way. You can 
usually construct an index group from e.g. a pdb file with awk. It's just lists 
of atom indices.

Best,

Erik

28 nov 2012 kl. 22.33 skrev Justin Lemkul:

 
 
 On 11/28/12 3:43 PM, Hovakim Grabski wrote:
 Dear Gromacs users,
 I set a  simulation of 26 base pairs  of  DNA with Ethidium Bromide for 5 ns.
 After a while Thymine rotated for about 70 degrees and then returned to its 
 initial position.
 I wanted to find out hbonds between Adenine and Thymine but with make_ndx 
 things don't work so well.
 How can I select Adenine from one strand and Thymine from the other strand 
 and then run g_hbond ?
 
 You can use make_ndx to select any residues you want.  You'll have to 
 describe exactly what you did that produced insufficient results.  Saying it 
 didn't work well doesn't tell us anything, because it is in fact quite easy 
 to produce usable index groups.
 
 -Justin
 
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Re: [gmx-users] error during nvt equilibration

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 12:40 AM, Shine A wrote:

Sir,

I am studying the dynamics of membrane proteins using KALP-15 in DPPC.
Now doing nvt equilibration and created index.ndx by using make_ndx. During
this step I selected 16/14 and 1/13.The next step (grompp -f nvt.mdp -c
em.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o nvt.tpr) getting error like this

  Fatal error:
Group SOL_CL not found in indexfile.
Maybe you have non-default goups in your .mdp file, while not using the
'-n' option of grompp.
In that case use the '-n' option.
  why this error? Can you give a solution to overcome it?



You're using a group called SOL_CL in the .mdp file, but one is not found in 
the .ndx file.  If indeed you used 16/14 to make the necessary index group, 
that is wrong.  The syntax is a pipe (|) to merge groups, not a slash (/).


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs 4.5.5 Do_dssp segment fault

2012-11-29 Thread Kdead
Thanks for your help!I will try .


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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] gromacs 4.5.5 Do_dssp segment fault
On 11/28/12 9:21 PM, Kdead wrote: When I use the Do_dssp module to collect the data from --.trr ,It report segment fault. The other common module is normol.WHY?? Thanks!The input options in the DSSP executable changed. This is a known problem and has been around for a long time. Your options are:1. Obtain an old version of DSSP2. Apply the patch described in the mailing list archive or otherwise install the development version via git3. Wait for the first beta release of version 4.6, where this problem is fixed (should be released very soon)-Justin-- Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.Research ScientistDepartment of BiochemistryVirginia TechBlacksburg, VAjalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin-- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.orghttp://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users* Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search before posting!* Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org.* Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists
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Re: [gmx-users] Hbonds between Adenine and Thymine

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul


Please keep the discussion on the gmx-users list.

On 11/29/12 6:12 AM, Hovakim Grabski wrote:

Dear Justin,

When I try to select 10DA residue from one strand and 17DT from the other
strand,I type r10 and r17 and both select 64 atoms, after r26 it selects water
molecules.


You can easily check (using a text editor) which atoms make_ndx is choosing.  In 
theory, your approach is correct and very straightforward.  Can you please provide?


1. Your exact make_ndx command
2. A few lines from residue 10DA of whatever coordinate file you're using
3. The index group produced from residue 10

Did you renumber the file at any point, for instance, with pdb2gmx?  That is, 
whatever started out as residue 10 may not still be numbered as such in the 
topology and any resulting coordinate files produced from the simulation. 
Without knowing exactly what you're using as make_ndx input, it's hard to track 
down what's going on.


-Justin


And then I check for Hbonds with g_hbond  I get 3 Hbonds, but between A and T
they form 2 Hbonds?
It seems I'm doing something wrong.
What can I do in this case?
Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Hovakim


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*Тема:* Re: [gmx-users] Hbonds between Adenine and Thymine



On 11/28/12 3:43 PM, Hovakim Grabski wrote:
  Dear Gromacs users,
  I set a  simulation of 26 base pairs  of  DNA with Ethidium Bromide for 5 ns.
  After a while Thymine rotated for about 70 degrees and then returned to its
initial position.
  I wanted to find out hbonds between Adenine and Thymine but with make_ndx
things don't work so well.
  How can I select Adenine from one strand and Thymine from the other strand
and then run g_hbond ?

You can use make_ndx to select any residues you want. You'll have to describe
exactly what you did that produced insufficient results.  Saying it didn't work
well doesn't tell us anything, because it is in fact quite easy to produce
usable index groups.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] MM-GB/SA analysis in Gromacs

2012-11-29 Thread andrea spitaleri

Dear all,

I would like to bring to your attention this paper 
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0046902 in which we made a tool 
to perform MM/PBSA binding free energy calculation in automatic fashion, using torque/pbs parallel 
system implemented in most clusters. The input of the tools are just the xtc trajectory, the tpr and 
eventually the index file. It does perform the computational alanine scanning (CAS) too. The tool is 
available upon request. Further details on the paper.



Regards,

and

On 11/29/2012 10:42 AM, Anna Marabotti wrote:

Dear gmx-users,

I ran several MD simulations using Gromacs 4.5.4 version, and now I'd
need to calculate binding free energies using the MM-GBSA method. I
searched through the manual and through the gmx-users archive, but I
didn't find a way to do it. I found an old post in which it appeared
that in the version 4.5 this possibility would have been available
(http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-July/052302.html),
but it seems to me that this kind of analysis has not been implemented yet.
In another more recent post, I see that somebody has used mdrun -rerun
in order to perform calculations, but I don't understand the correct
procedure to use (apart from the suggestion of using .trr instead of
.xtc files in order to avoid errors).

Does anyone have suggestions in order to do this analysis with Gromacs
trajectories, before I make these calculations with another program?

Many thanks in advance and best regards
Anna



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[gmx-users] error during mdrun

2012-11-29 Thread Shine A
Sir,

   I am studying the dynamics of membrane proteins using KALP-15 in DPPC.
Now doing nvt equilibration.During mdrun (mdrun -deffnm nvt) getting error
like this
  Fatal error:
6 particles communicated to PME node 1 are more than 2/3 times the cut-off
out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in dimension x.
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.
why this error? How can I solve this?
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Re: [gmx-users] error during mdrun

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 7:49 AM, Shine A wrote:

Sir,

I am studying the dynamics of membrane proteins using KALP-15 in DPPC.
Now doing nvt equilibration.During mdrun (mdrun -deffnm nvt) getting error
like this
   Fatal error:
6 particles communicated to PME node 1 are more than 2/3 times the cut-off
out of the domain decomposition cell of their charge group in dimension x.
This usually means that your system is not well equilibrated.
why this error? How can I solve this?



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#X_particles_communicated_to_PME_node_Y_are_more_than_a_cell_length_out_of_the_domain_decomposition_cell_of_their_charge_group

The website has troubleshooting tips by following the link above, and the 
mailing list archive has about a million posts on this topic too.  Surely 
something will be of use.


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[gmx-users] Electrostatic field in atoms - GROMACS is not reading table interaction functions for bonded interactions

2012-11-29 Thread Ariana Torres Knoop
Dear GROMACS users,

We are trying to determine the electric fields at the C and N atoms in a 
protein. To do so, we thought of performing a one step energy minimization with 
the Lennard-Jones as well as the bonded interactions turned off, in order to 
get only the coulomb forces.
For that, according to 
www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Tabulated_Potentials , we made a table 
(table.xvg) in which the Lennard-Jones potential was set to zero and we also 
made three tables (table_b1.xvg, table_a5.xvg and table_d5.xvg) according to 
section 4.2.13 of the Manual (Tabulated interaction functions), in which the 
f(x)=0 for the whole range of distances, angles, dihedrals present in the 
simulation box. The numbers 1, 5, 2 correspond to the function number referred 
to in the topology file. For example for the bonds interaction, in the topology 
file we have:
[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1
1 3 1
1 4 1
1 5 1
5 6 1
.
.
.
so we named the table table_b1.xvg.

We changed the run.mdp file as follows:
vdw-type = User
coulombtype  = PME-User 

And then we try to run it  using:
mdrun  -v  -deffnm  run.tpr 

When checking the energy contribution using g_energy, Lennard-Jones 
contribution was indeed zero, but 
for the bonded interactions this is not  the case:

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
U-B 18180.1 --276.416   -540.638  (kJ/mol)
Proper Dih. 11732.3 --27.6829   -54.0396  (kJ/mol)
Improper Dih.   1027.26 --47.1598   -91.7097  (kJ/mol)
LJ-14 0 --  0  0  (kJ/mol)
LJ (SR)   0 --  0  0  (kJ/mol)

We though that maybe the tables for the bonded interactions were not taken, so 
we tried:
 mdrun  -v -tableb table_b1.xvg  table_a5.xvg table_d2.xvg  -deffnm  run.tpr 

But it also did not work.

We are not sure whether the problem is in the table definition, the way of 
running the program, the run type, the name of the tables, or if there should 
be some other modifications in the *mdp file.

We would be very grateful if anyone could help us out here.

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Re: [gmx-users] Electrostatic field in atoms - GROMACS is not reading table interaction functions for bonded interactions

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 8:18 AM, Ariana Torres Knoop wrote:

Dear GROMACS users,

We are trying to determine the electric fields at the C and N atoms in a 
protein. To do so, we thought of performing a one step energy minimization with 
the Lennard-Jones as well as the bonded interactions turned off, in order to 
get only the coulomb forces.
For that, according to 
www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Tabulated_Potentials , we made a table 
(table.xvg) in which the Lennard-Jones potential was set to zero and we also 
made three tables (table_b1.xvg, table_a5.xvg and table_d5.xvg) according to 
section 4.2.13 of the Manual (Tabulated interaction functions), in which the 
f(x)=0 for the whole range of distances, angles, dihedrals present in the 
simulation box. The numbers 1, 5, 2 correspond to the function number referred 
to in the topology file. For example for the bonds interaction, in the topology 
file we have:
[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
 1 2 1
 1 3 1
 1 4 1
 1 5 1
 5 6 1
.
.
.
so we named the table table_b1.xvg.

We changed the run.mdp file as follows:
vdw-type = User
coulombtype  = PME-User

And then we try to run it  using:
mdrun  -v  -deffnm  run.tpr

When checking the energy contribution using g_energy, Lennard-Jones 
contribution was indeed zero, but
for the bonded interactions this is not  the case:

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
U-B 18180.1 --276.416   -540.638  (kJ/mol)
Proper Dih. 11732.3 --27.6829   -54.0396  (kJ/mol)
Improper Dih.   1027.26 --47.1598   -91.7097  (kJ/mol)
LJ-14 0 --  0  0  (kJ/mol)
LJ (SR)   0 --  0  0  (kJ/mol)

We though that maybe the tables for the bonded interactions were not taken, so 
we tried:
  mdrun  -v -tableb table_b1.xvg  table_a5.xvg table_d2.xvg  -deffnm  run.tpr

But it also did not work.

We are not sure whether the problem is in the table definition, the way of 
running the program, the run type, the name of the tables, or if there should 
be some other modifications in the *mdp file.

We would be very grateful if anyone could help us out here.



I think the problem comes from the fact that the function types you are 
specifying in the topology correspond to actual potentials and thus the tables 
are being ignored.  Per Table 5.5, it seems that any value for the table is 
acceptable (n = 0) but using numbers corresponding to actual function types may 
not work.  The specified format also requires that both the table number and 
force constant (k) be specified in the topology, but the [bonds] section you 
show above has no value of k and the function type corresponds to a simple 
harmonic bond.  There is no bond energy in the output, which suggests you are 
using constraints - is that the case?


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[gmx-users] Re:Energy landscapes

2012-11-29 Thread lloyd riggs

Dear All,

I remember a post in the last couple months but cant find it.  In any case, by 
searching through van der groot et alls. papers, the -xmin, -xmax, -dim and 
-ngrid options third point, example: -xmin 3 3 3 -xmax 3 3 3 is for reading in 
the output 3d (projections on V1, V2, V3 or first three vectors, and is output 
as xyz points in a pdb file.  This can be read into various ploting or even 
pymol/vmd to illustrate the projection on a PCA of 3 dimensions.  From the lit 
it is supposed to show 2 or more conformational states, and a number of 
intermediary states in between (overall just a 3d PCA graph).  If I am wrong 
please correct me, but this is what the output for me was doing, and I 
personally prefer the 2D, as its easier to illustrait (as images in 3d lack the 
necessary rotation to show everything in a static image).

Sincerely,

Stephan Watkins
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Re: [gmx-users] g_tune_pme for multiple nodes

2012-11-29 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Hi Carsten,

Thanks for your suggestion.

I did try to pass to total number of cores with the np flag to the
g_tune_pme, but it didnot help. Hopefully I am doing something silliy. I
have pasted the snippet of the PBS script.

#!/bin/csh
#PBS -l nodes=2:ppn=12:twelve
#PBS -N bilayer_tune




cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR
export MDRUN=/cm/shared/apps/gromacs/4.5.5/single/bin/mdrun_mpi_4.5.5
mpirun -np $NPROCS  g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 24 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x
tune.xtc -e tune.edr -g tune.log -nice 0


Then I submit the script using qsub.
When I login to the compute nodes there I donot find and mdrun executable
running.

I also tried using nodes=1 and np 12. It didnot work through qsub.

Then I logged in to the compute nodes and executed g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 12
-s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x tune.xtc -e tune.edr -g tune.log -nice 0

It worked.

Also, if I just use
$g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 12 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x tune.xtc -e tune.edr
-g tune.log -nice 0
g_tune_pme executes on the head node and writes various files.

Kindly let me know what am I missing when I submit through qsub.

Thanks

Chandan
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NCL, Pune
INDIA


On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Carsten Kutzner ckut...@gwdg.de wrote:

 Hi Chandan,

 g_tune_pme also finds the optimal number of PME cores if the cores
 are distributed on multiple nodes. Simply pass the total number of
 cores to the -np option. Depending on the MPI and queue environment
 that you use, the distribution of the cores over the nodes may have
 to be specified in a hostfile / machinefile. Check g_tune_pme -h
 on how to set that.

 Best,
   Carsten


 On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Chandan Choudhury iitd...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear gmx users,
 
  I am using 4.5.5 of gromacs.
 
  I was trying to use g_tune_pme for a simulation. I intend to execute
  mdrun at multiple nodes with 12 cores each. Therefore, I would like to
  optimize the number of pme nodes. I could execute g_tune_pme -np 12
  md.tpr. But this will only find the optimal PME nodes for single nodes
  run. How do I find the optimal PME nodes for multiple nodes.
 
  Any suggestion would be helpful.
 
  Chandan
 
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AW: [gmx-users] g_tune_pme for multiple nodes

2012-11-29 Thread Florian Dommert
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
 boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Chandan Choudhury
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. November 2012 15:31
 An: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Betreff: Re: [gmx-users] g_tune_pme for multiple nodes
 
 Hi Carsten,
 
 Thanks for your suggestion.
 
 I did try to pass to total number of cores with the np flag to the
g_tune_pme,
 but it didnot help. Hopefully I am doing something silliy. I have pasted
the
 snippet of the PBS script.
 
 #!/bin/csh
 #PBS -l nodes=2:ppn=12:twelve
 #PBS -N bilayer_tune
 
 
 
 
 cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR
 export
 MDRUN=/cm/shared/apps/gromacs/4.5.5/single/bin/mdrun_mpi_4.5.5
 mpirun -np $NPROCS  g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 24 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x
 tune.xtc -e tune.edr -g tune.log -nice 0

Hi,

 Don't start an MPI process. Run:

g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 24 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x

and everything should work fine.

/Flo
 
 
 Then I submit the script using qsub.
 When I login to the compute nodes there I donot find and mdrun executable
 running.
 
 I also tried using nodes=1 and np 12. It didnot work through qsub.
 
 Then I logged in to the compute nodes and executed g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 12
-
 s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x tune.xtc -e tune.edr -g tune.log -nice 0
 
 It worked.
 
 Also, if I just use
 $g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 12 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x tune.xtc -e
tune.edr -g
 tune.log -nice 0 g_tune_pme executes on the head node and writes various
files.
 
 Kindly let me know what am I missing when I submit through qsub.
 
 Thanks
 
 Chandan
 --
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 NCL, Pune
 INDIA
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Carsten Kutzner ckut...@gwdg.de wrote:
 
  Hi Chandan,
 
  g_tune_pme also finds the optimal number of PME cores if the cores are
  distributed on multiple nodes. Simply pass the total number of cores
  to the -np option. Depending on the MPI and queue environment that you
  use, the distribution of the cores over the nodes may have to be
  specified in a hostfile / machinefile. Check g_tune_pme -h on how to
  set that.
 
  Best,
Carsten
 
 
  On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Chandan Choudhury iitd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Dear gmx users,
  
   I am using 4.5.5 of gromacs.
  
   I was trying to use g_tune_pme for a simulation. I intend to execute
   mdrun at multiple nodes with 12 cores each. Therefore, I would like
   to optimize the number of pme nodes. I could execute g_tune_pme -np
   12 md.tpr. But this will only find the optimal PME nodes for single
   nodes run. How do I find the optimal PME nodes for multiple nodes.
  
   Any suggestion would be helpful.
  
   Chandan
  
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[gmx-users] Potential energy from a previous configuration mismatch

2012-11-29 Thread juan-manuel.castillo

Dear Gromacs friends,

I am running some simulations of a hexane/ethanol mixture 
in a box, using a United-Atom OPLS model. My Gromacs 
version is the 4.5.5.


I fill the simulation box with genbox (I have also used an 
equilibrated pdb file generated by other simulation code), 
and I run a energy minimization simulation, wich gives the 
following energies for the final configuration:


   Energies (kJ/mol)
  Angle   Fourier Dih.  LJ-14 
   Coulomb-14LJ (SR)
6.62915e+005.17493e+02   -2.61388e+01 
  0.0e+00   -4.01422e+03
  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   RF excl. 
Potential Pres. DC (bar)
   -9.65799e+010.0e+000.0e+00 
 -3.61282e+030.0e+00


Potential Energy  = -3.6128213e+03
Maximum force =  2.7169607e+01 on atom 541
Norm of force =  3.9986315e+00

I take the final configuration, and using exactly the same 
force field definition and simulation parameters (cutoff 
radious, electrostatic method, etc), I start a molecular 
dynamics simulation in the NVE ensemble. No matter what I 
do, I always have a blow-up problem. I have checked all 
the points that could be giving the problem, in particular 
the ones given here:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up

and I have also tried to modify one by one different 
parameters, but I never succeed to obtain a running 
simulation. I have seen that I always have a much larger 
energy at the beginning of the simulation than the energy 
at the end of the minimization:


   Energies (kJ/mol)
  Angle   Fourier Dih.  LJ-14 
   Coulomb-14LJ (SR)
5.43743e+042.06120e+036.02532e+01 
  0.0e+001.62817e+07
  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   RF excl. 
PotentialKinetic En.
   -9.65799e+010.0e+000.0e+00 
  1.63381e+071.65906e+10
   Total EnergyTemperature Pres. DC (bar) Pressure 
(bar)   Constr. rmsd

1.66069e+10

but the potential energy should be exactly the same in 
both cases, as it only depends on the atomic positions. 
Anybody can tell me what I am doing wrong?


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Re: [gmx-users] g_tune_pme for multiple nodes

2012-11-29 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi Chandan,

On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Chandan Choudhury iitd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Carsten,
 
 Thanks for your suggestion.
 
 I did try to pass to total number of cores with the np flag to the
 g_tune_pme, but it didnot help. Hopefully I am doing something silliy. I
 have pasted the snippet of the PBS script.
 
 #!/bin/csh
 #PBS -l nodes=2:ppn=12:twelve
 #PBS -N bilayer_tune
 
 
 
 
 cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR
 export MDRUN=/cm/shared/apps/gromacs/4.5.5/single/bin/mdrun_mpi_4.5.5
from here on you job file should read:

export MPIRUN=`which mpirun`
g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np $NPROCS -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x tune.xtc -e tune.edr 
-g tune.log

 mpirun -np $NPROCS  g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 24 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x
 tune.xtc -e tune.edr -g tune.log -nice 0
this way you will get $NPROCS g_tune_pme instances, each trying to run an mdrun 
job on 24 cores,
which is not what you want. g_tune_pme itself is a serial program, it just 
spawns the mdrun's.

Carsten
 
 
 Then I submit the script using qsub.
 When I login to the compute nodes there I donot find and mdrun executable
 running.
 
 I also tried using nodes=1 and np 12. It didnot work through qsub.
 
 Then I logged in to the compute nodes and executed g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 12
 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x tune.xtc -e tune.edr -g tune.log -nice 0
 
 It worked.
 
 Also, if I just use
 $g_tune_pme_4.5.5 -np 12 -s md0-200.tpr -c tune.pdb -x tune.xtc -e tune.edr
 -g tune.log -nice 0
 g_tune_pme executes on the head node and writes various files.
 
 Kindly let me know what am I missing when I submit through qsub.
 
 Thanks
 
 Chandan
 --
 Chandan kumar Choudhury
 NCL, Pune
 INDIA
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Carsten Kutzner ckut...@gwdg.de wrote:
 
 Hi Chandan,
 
 g_tune_pme also finds the optimal number of PME cores if the cores
 are distributed on multiple nodes. Simply pass the total number of
 cores to the -np option. Depending on the MPI and queue environment
 that you use, the distribution of the cores over the nodes may have
 to be specified in a hostfile / machinefile. Check g_tune_pme -h
 on how to set that.
 
 Best,
  Carsten
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Chandan Choudhury iitd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear gmx users,
 
 I am using 4.5.5 of gromacs.
 
 I was trying to use g_tune_pme for a simulation. I intend to execute
 mdrun at multiple nodes with 12 cores each. Therefore, I would like to
 optimize the number of pme nodes. I could execute g_tune_pme -np 12
 md.tpr. But this will only find the optimal PME nodes for single nodes
 run. How do I find the optimal PME nodes for multiple nodes.
 
 Any suggestion would be helpful.
 
 Chandan
 
 --
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[gmx-users] About Diffusion of Water towards Protein in ceter of box

2012-11-29 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear Justin,
   Thank you for your Previous Reply 

To avoid the Diffusion of Water You Suggested  me s follows

The better approach would be a position restrain along the z-axis only, 
allowing 
the lipids to perhaps re-orient and pack a bit better, followed by NVT 
equilibration in the absence of any restraints on water. 



According to your Suggestion Should i Do the Two times Equilibration With 
restraint On water only in First NVT equilibration followed by another NVT 
equilibration without restraint on Water But Only With Lipids ?


My Question  is 

Can i simultaneously use Restraint for water and Lipids in Single NVT 
equilibration ?

If i can 

My NVT equilibration is Successful  (means No Diffusion of Water in the Tail 
Part.)
But After That When I do NPT Equilibration  There is Diffusion Of Some Water 
molecules Towards the protein in the center of box  Not towards Tail of Lipids
Is this Behavior is ODD or Normal ?
If it is ODD May I again use the Restraint on Water During NPT Equilibration ? 
or May I continue the MD ?

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Re: [gmx-users] Potential energy from a previous configuration mismatch

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 9:59 AM, juan-manuel.casti...@mv.uni-kl.de wrote:

Dear Gromacs friends,

I am running some simulations of a hexane/ethanol mixture in a box, using a
United-Atom OPLS model. My Gromacs version is the 4.5.5.

I fill the simulation box with genbox (I have also used an equilibrated pdb file
generated by other simulation code), and I run a energy minimization simulation,
wich gives the following energies for the final configuration:

Energies (kJ/mol)
   Angle   Fourier Dih.  LJ-14Coulomb-14LJ (SR)
 6.62915e+005.17493e+02   -2.61388e+01   0.0e+00   -4.01422e+03
   Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   RF excl. Potential Pres. DC (bar)
-9.65799e+010.0e+000.0e+00  -3.61282e+030.0e+00

Potential Energy  = -3.6128213e+03
Maximum force =  2.7169607e+01 on atom 541
Norm of force =  3.9986315e+00

I take the final configuration, and using exactly the same force field
definition and simulation parameters (cutoff radious, electrostatic method,
etc), I start a molecular dynamics simulation in the NVE ensemble. No matter
what I do, I always have a blow-up problem. I have checked all the points that
could be giving the problem, in particular the ones given here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up

and I have also tried to modify one by one different parameters, but I never
succeed to obtain a running simulation. I have seen that I always have a much
larger energy at the beginning of the simulation than the energy at the end of
the minimization:

Energies (kJ/mol)
   Angle   Fourier Dih.  LJ-14Coulomb-14LJ (SR)
 5.43743e+042.06120e+036.02532e+01   0.0e+001.62817e+07
   Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   RF excl. PotentialKinetic En.
-9.65799e+010.0e+000.0e+00   1.63381e+071.65906e+10
Total EnergyTemperature Pres. DC (bar) Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
 1.66069e+10

but the potential energy should be exactly the same in both cases, as it only
depends on the atomic positions. Anybody can tell me what I am doing wrong?



Can you post a complete .mdp file?  In theory, if one evaluates the same 
configuration under the same parameters (i.e. in a single-point energy 
evaluation), yes, the energies reported should be the same.  But doing EM and 
doing MD are not the same, especially if you are introducing constraints or 
other parameters.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] About Diffusion of Water towards Protein in ceter of box

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 10:09 AM, vidhya sankar wrote:

Dear Justin,
Thank you for your Previous Reply

To avoid the Diffusion of Water You Suggested  me s follows

The better approach would be a position restrain along the z-axis only, allowing
the lipids to perhaps re-orient and pack a bit better, followed by NVT
equilibration in the absence of any restraints on water.



According to your Suggestion Should i Do the Two times Equilibration With 
restraint On water only in First NVT equilibration followed by another NVT 
equilibration without restraint on Water But Only With Lipids ?




In what way would you restrain the lipids?  I could see some value to an initial 
z-dimension restraint, but ultimately you're going to want to allow both the 
lipids and water to move freely, otherwise you're not equilibrating very well, 
you're inhibiting the process.



My Question  is

Can i simultaneously use Restraint for water and Lipids in Single NVT 
equilibration ?



Sure, if done carefully.


If i can

My NVT equilibration is Successful  (means No Diffusion of Water in the Tail 
Part.)
But After That When I do NPT Equilibration  There is Diffusion Of Some Water 
molecules Towards the protein in the center of box  Not towards Tail of Lipids
Is this Behavior is ODD or Normal ?
If it is ODD May I again use the Restraint on Water During NPT Equilibration ? 
or May I continue the MD ?



I have no idea what this means.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] segmentation fault

2012-11-29 Thread Shine A
Sir,

 I have one more doubt. During NVT equilibration mdrun giving
segmentation fault and not generating any gro files and generating two pdb
files. The message is like this


  Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
  Warning: 1-4 interaction between 485 and 490 at distance 3.874 which is
larger than the 1-4 table size 2.200 nm
 These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
 This usually means your system is exploding,
 if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
 or with user tables increase the table size
 Segmentation fault
why this fault?plz give a solution to overcome it.
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Re: [gmx-users] segmentation fault

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 10:44 AM, Shine A wrote:

Sir,

  I have one more doubt. During NVT equilibration mdrun giving
segmentation fault and not generating any gro files and generating two pdb
files. The message is like this


   Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
   Warning: 1-4 interaction between 485 and 490 at distance 3.874 which is
larger than the 1-4 table size 2.200 nm
  These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
  This usually means your system is exploding,
  if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
  or with user tables increase the table size
  Segmentation fault
why this fault?plz give a solution to overcome it.



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up

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[gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Albert

hello:

  I am just wondering does Gromacs GPU accerlation suppport ATI card?

THX

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Re: [gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Szilárd Páll
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[gmx-users] Computing energies using g_energy (is -nmol mandatory?)

2012-11-29 Thread André Ferreira

Hello all,

I am trying to compute total energies of several systems, but I am not 
sure if I am doing it the right way. Until now I simply used the command:


g_energy -f file.edr -s file.tpr -o ener.xvg

But after reading the manual, I found the -nmol (number of molecules in 
your sample) flag. If you are comparing systems formed by the same 
amount of molecules the relative energy is not affected. Still, if I am 
comparing energies of systems with different compositions this flag will 
affect them drastically...


Is this option mandatory?

Thank you very much for your time,
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[gmx-users] water mediated hydrogen bond

2012-11-29 Thread Raj
Hi all, I would like to measure the water mediated hydrogen bond between the
ligand and the protein. When I searched the forum I could able to get the
link
(http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/Scripts/plot_hbmap.txt)
for the script with which we can get the above mentioned objective. But I'm
not sure how to use it
Can any one help me with what data I should have before running the script
and how I can get such a data and also how shuld I use the data as a input
for the script?. Thanks in advance 



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[gmx-users] Re: Potential energy from a previous configuration mismatch

2012-11-29 Thread escajarro
This is my mdp file for energy minimization:

constraints  = none

; integration parameters
integrator   = l-bfgs
dt  = 0.00
nsteps= 15000

; center of mass removal
nstcomm  = 10
comm_mode = Linear

; neighbour searching
nstlist = 1
ns_type  = grid
pbc= xyz
rlist= 1.4

; electrostatics
coulombtype  = Reaction-Field-zero
rcoulomb   = 1.1
epsilon_r   = 1.0
epsilon_rf  = 0.0

; van der Waals interactions
vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw   = 1.4  
DispCorr  = EnerPres 

; Ewald parameters
fourierspacing  = 0.12
fourier_nx   = 0
fourier_ny   = 0
fourier_nz   = 0
pme_order  = 4
ewald_rtol   = 1e-6
optimize_fft = yes

; energy minimization
emtol= 0.1
emstep  = 0.01



And this is the one for MD

constraints  = none

; integration parameters
integrator   = md   
tinit   = 0
dt  = 0.001
nsteps= 1000 
;init_step= 0
comm_mode= linear 
nstcomm = 10  

; output control
nstxout = 1   
nstvout = 1   
nstfout  = 0 
nstlog   = 1
energygrps= hexane-UA ethanol   

; neigbour searching
nstlist   = 1   
ns_type= grid
pbc  = xyz 
rlist  = 1.4

; electrostatics
coulombtype  = Reaction-Field-zero
rcoulomb   = 1.1
epsilon_r   = 1.0
epsilon_rf  = 0.0

; van der Waals interactions
vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw   = 1.4   
DispCorr  = EnerPres  

; Ewald parameters
fourierspacing   = 0.12
fourier_nx= 0 
fourier_ny= 0
fourier_nz= 0
pme_order   = 4  
ewald_rtol= 1e-6 
optimize_fft  = yes   

; Generate velocities
gen_vel   = yes  
gen_temp= 298.0 
gen_seed = -1  


To use as the starting configuration the last configuration of the
minimization, I used the confout.gro file of the minimization as the input
conf.gro for MD. I also tried using the traj.trr file generated after
minimization with the grompp option -t for MD. I used the same top and ndx
files in both simulations.

Thanks



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Re: [gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Albert

tha't strange,

from the link:

https://simtk.org/project/xml/downloads.xml?group_id=161

we can see, it said:

The current release of OpenMM and OpenMM-accelerated GROMACS enables 
acceleration of molecular dynamics on specific NVIDIA and ATI GPU cards.



I've got ATI-Radeon HD5770, I tried both openMM and withou openMM 4.6, 
it always claimed couldn't find CUDA device.


What's happening?



On 11/29/2012 05:44 PM, Szilárd Páll wrote:

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hello:

   I am just wondering does Gromacs GPU accerlation suppport ATI card?

THX

Albert
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Re: [gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Szilárd Páll
Hi Albert,

That claim is false. The current mdrun-opnemm version only supports the
CUDA OpenMM plugin and even that is not fully supported as we don't have
enough resources to maintain the code.

We will make sure to get the false claim of ATI GPU support removed from
the OpenMM website.

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integration and in the lack of such people we will have to resort to
dropping OpenMM support post-4.6.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Albert mailmd2...@gmail.com wrote:

 tha't strange,

 from the link:

 https://simtk.org/project/xml/**downloads.xml?group_id=161https://simtk.org/project/xml/downloads.xml?group_id=161

 we can see, it said:

 The current release of OpenMM and OpenMM-accelerated GROMACS enables
 acceleration of molecular dynamics on specific NVIDIA and ATI GPU cards.


 I've got ATI-Radeon HD5770, I tried both openMM and withou openMM 4.6, it
 always claimed couldn't find CUDA device.

 What's happening?




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Re: [gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Albert

On 11/29/2012 06:44 PM, Szilárd Páll wrote:

Hi Albert,

That claim is false. The current mdrun-opnemm version only supports the
CUDA OpenMM plugin and even that is not fully supported as we don't have
enough resources to maintain the code.

We will make sure to get the false claim of ATI GPU support removed from
the OpenMM website.

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PS: we are looking for volunteers to maintain the Gromacs OpenMM
integration and in the lack of such people we will have to resort to
dropping OpenMM support post-4.6.


Hello Szilard:

  thanks for kind comments. If there are not so much people use openMM, 
probably you can consider give it up. Currently I am using NVIDIA GTX590 
GPU acceleration with Gromacs4.6 without openMM support, and it works 
fine (I did some tests comparing with CPU running results for my 
system). If I were you, I will save my time and energy focus on current 
version and road.


I am asking if it support ATI just because I've got a stupid MAC Pro 
machine these days, and it claimed to have a very good ATI GPU, so I 
just wondering if it could support ATI GPU accelerations. It since that, 
almost all MD tools only support NVIDIA GPU.


best
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Re: [gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 12:51 PM, Albert wrote:

On 11/29/2012 06:44 PM, Szilárd Páll wrote:

Hi Albert,

That claim is false. The current mdrun-opnemm version only supports the
CUDA OpenMM plugin and even that is not fully supported as we don't have
enough resources to maintain the code.

We will make sure to get the false claim of ATI GPU support removed from
the OpenMM website.

Cheers,
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PS: we are looking for volunteers to maintain the Gromacs OpenMM
integration and in the lack of such people we will have to resort to
dropping OpenMM support post-4.6.


Hello Szilard:

   thanks for kind comments. If there are not so much people use openMM,
probably you can consider give it up. Currently I am using NVIDIA GTX590 GPU
acceleration with Gromacs4.6 without openMM support, and it works fine (I did
some tests comparing with CPU running results for my system). If I were you, I
will save my time and energy focus on current version and road.



This would be very unfortunate, I think, but I understand the need to focus on 
the most feasible development, using the time people have to commit to it, and 
perhaps priorities are elsewhere.  We invested heavily in a few GPU workstations 
in recent years with the intent of doing a lot of GPU-enabled implicit solvent 
simulations.  Without the GPU, the implicit solvent code is severely limited 
without fixes to the parallelization on CPU.


It seems that the same issues (i.e. one cannot use more than 2 processors for a 
run) still persist thus far in the development of 4.6, with the focus of using 
GPU's in a more generalized way, but without OpenMM, implicit solvent 
simulations (in my hands at least) are not worth it.  Of course, running 
explicit-solvent simulations on GPU is quite nice, but still, the point stands 
that the implicit code is rendered largely obsolete without GPU.


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Re: [gmx-users] water mediated hydrogen bond

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 10:18 AM, Raj wrote:

Hi all, I would like to measure the water mediated hydrogen bond between the
ligand and the protein. When I searched the forum I could able to get the
link
(http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/Scripts/plot_hbmap.txt)
for the script with which we can get the above mentioned objective. But I'm
not sure how to use it
Can any one help me with what data I should have before running the script
and how I can get such a data and also how shuld I use the data as a input
for the script?. Thanks in advance



My script will tell you how long a particular hydrogen bond persists, in terms 
of the percentage of time occupied in a given trajectory.  Likely what I 
suggested was to use the same logic to parse an hbmap.xpm file to determine when 
hydrogen bonds existed simultaneously between different proteins and a common 
water molecule.  One could, in theory, expand the script I wrote to do this.


Having never had a need to make such modifications, I cannot provide much more 
insight, but I know it is possible.


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Re: [gmx-users] Computing energies using g_energy (is -nmol mandatory?)

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 11:53 AM, André Ferreira wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to compute total energies of several systems, but I am not sure if I
am doing it the right way. Until now I simply used the command:

g_energy -f file.edr -s file.tpr -o ener.xvg

But after reading the manual, I found the -nmol (number of molecules in your
sample) flag. If you are comparing systems formed by the same amount of
molecules the relative energy is not affected. Still, if I am comparing energies
of systems with different compositions this flag will affect them drastically...

Is this option mandatory?



I suppose it depends on what your systems are and what you are trying to 
measure.  The -nmol flag will simply divide the energy values by this value, 
which is useful for certain metrics in homogeneous systems.  By default, the 
total energy printed is in kJ/(mol of equivalent systems).


It wouldn't make sense, for instance, in a membrane-protein system that includes 
water, since there are several types of distinct molecules there.  The statement 
you always need to set the number of molecules with -nmol only refers to the 
properties shown in that table in the manual/help description.


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Re: [gmx-users] query regarding PMF calculation

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 11:55 AM, Timir Hajari wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to calculate PMF using pull code by freezing two pull groups as
I need to calculate PMF for a particular orientation. Is it meaning to use
pull code in this condition(freezing two pull groups) ??
I will wait for your helpful suggestions.


I don't see what the purpose is.  If the two molecules are frozen, there is no 
point in applying a restraint potential between them, since their positions are 
(by definition) invariant based on the application of freezing.


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Re: Отв: [gmx-users] Hbonds between Adenine and Thymine

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 2:04 PM, Hovakim Grabski wrote:

Dear Justin,
I only used pdb2gmx when I prepared the DNA which I created with nab.
and the command that  I used was:

make_ndx -f md_0_1.gro  -o index.ndx
after that then I press r10 and r17 I get :

14 r_10:64 atoms

15 r_17:64 atoms
This are the coordinates for the residues:
First strand:

10DA   P  281  16.129   2.602  11.551 -0.0064 -0.0090 -0.0438
10DA O1P  282  16.266   2.580  11.500 -0.1992 -0.7975 -0.2387
10DA O2P  283  16.071   2.493  11.632 -0.2097  0.0667 -0.0880
10DA O5'  284  16.120   2.736  11.641 -0.2017 -0.2302  0.2683
10DA C5'  285  16.192   2.847  11.592 -0.0631 -0.2091  0.5162
10DAH5'1  286  16.168   2.856  11.486  0.2017  0.7446  0.5318
10DAH5'2  287  16.299   2.837  11.607  0.0847  2.3049  1.7097
10DA C4'  288  16.169   2.980  11.662  0.0289 -0.3183  0.7520
10DA H4'  289  16.224   3.053  11.601 -2.8707  0.5718 -0.9869
10DA O4'  290  16.034   3.020  11.656  0.3066  0.6132  0.4536
10DA C1'  291  15.987   3.045  11.787 -0.2499  0.3562  0.3063
10DA H1'  292  15.998   3.152  11.802 -0.0905  0.4135 -0.2041
10DA  N9  293  15.847   3.001  11.796 -0.1361  0.0295  0.4799
10DA  C8  294  15.791   2.875  11.795 -0.1763  0.0476 -0.2015
10DA  H8  295  15.862   2.793  11.796 -0.2033  0.0265  0.2737
10DA  N7  296  15.664   2.871  11.823 -0.1286  0.2671  0.0604
10DA  C5  297  15.619   3.001  11.805 -0.4228  0.2070  0.3483
10DA  C6  298  15.497   3.069  11.794 -0.3949  0.2036 -0.0034
10DA  N6  299  15.374   3.018  11.804 -0.2308 -0.1144  0.4274
10DA H61  300  15.305   3.085  11.771  1.7600  0.9756 -1.8289
10DA H62  301  15.354   2.923  11.833 -0.2605 -0.3058 -0.1869
10DA  N1  302  15.497   3.202  11.778  0.3602  0.1422 -0.5486
10DA  C2  303  15.612   3.265  11.760  0.0189  0.7232 -0.7343
10DA  H2  304  15.626   3.372  11.756  3.6933  0.5922  2.5222
10DA  N3  305  15.732   3.208  11.755 -0.4260 -0.2664 -0.3708
10DA  C4  306  15.732   3.076  11.784 -0.2117 -0.1027  0.3843
10DA C3'  307  16.212   2.987  11.809  0.1076  0.4852  0.7002
10DA H3'  308  16.269   2.895  11.822 -0.9751 -0.4630 -0.7702
  10DA C2'  309  16.078   2.963  11.878 -0.1301  0.3788  0.2079
10DAH2'1  310  16.053   2.856  11.876 -0.9477  0.5118  1.5833
10DAH2'2  311  16.071   3.003  11.979  0.2289  0.9076  0.0218
10DA O3'  312  16.289   3.101  11.839  0.7852  0.0886  0.4921

  17DT   P  505  14.540   2.457  13.806 -0.1135 -0.3293  0.2579
17DT O1P  506  14.515   2.332  13.730 -0.3178 -0.1552  0.0391
17DT O2P  507  14.426   2.509  13.885 -0.5793 -0.3100 -0.4187
17DT O5'  508  14.667   2.425  13.901 -0.0420 -0.1432  0.2251
17DT C5'  509  14.775   2.352  13.848 -0.0056  0.1138 -0.0585
17DTH5'1  510  14.807   2.394  13.753 -0.0386  0.1388 -0.0585
17DTH5'2  511  14.747   2.249  13.827  2.0093 -0.8479  1.6171
17DT C4'  512  14.889   2.350  13.950  0.3616  0.2283 -0.4642
17DT   H4'  513  14.975   2.306  13.899  1.2315  0.1760  0.9966
17DT O4'  514  14.921   2.483  13.982  0.5698  0.0309  0.1646
17DT C1'  515  14.968   2.485  14.115  0.1427  0.4216  0.3154
17DT H1'  516  15.075   2.506  14.109  0.2135 -0.2028 -1.2027
17DT  N1  517  14.902   2.590  14.194 -0.3299  0.5140 -0.2027
17DT  C6  518  14.766   2.600  14.188 -0.4375 -0.3782  0.5725
17DT  H6  519  14.711   2.537  14.119  0.9370 -0.6147 -0.3448
17DT  C5  520  14.704   2.694  14.264 -0.2228  0.0885  0.1776
17DT  C7  521  14.556   2.708  14.239 -0.0922  0.0466 -0.6345
17DT H71  522  14.520   2.617  14.190  1.5759 -0.4976 -0.9099
17DT H72  523  14.508   2.720  14.336  1.6175 -1.7512  0.5049
17DT H73  524  14.543   2.797  14.177  0.6660  0.4976 -0.1693
17DT  C4  525  14.782   2.793  14.333  0.0191 -0.5878  0.8877
17DT  O4  526  14.727   2.896  14.373 -0.1581 -0.1795 -0.3746
17DT  N3  527  14.918   2.765  14.347  0.1422 -0.1924  0.4985
  17DT  H3  528  14.971   2.834  14.397  0.3132  0.9994 -1.2291
17DT  C2  529  14.983   2.664  14.278 -0.0217  0.1747 -0.2008
17DT  O2  530  15.106   2.660  14.287 -0.0771 -0.0313  0.4614
17DT C3'  531  14.859   2.268  14.075  0.3169  0.4173 -0.3515
17DT H3'  532  14.756   2.283  14.109  0.3908 -0.8417  0.4979
17DT C2'  533  14.947   2.345  14.173  0.2886  0.2008 -0.1552
17DTH2'1  534  14.907   2.335  14.274 -0.4318 -1.3965 -0.5681
17DTH2'2  535  15.047   2.302  14.178  0.9026  1.0206 -3.1872
17DT O3'  536  14.903   2.134  14.068  0.1630  0.3529 -0.0944

Second strand:

10DA   P 1106   9.991   9.662   5.857  0.2711 -0.2003 -0.2055
10DA O1P 1107  10.117   9.699   5.925  0.0171 -0.1521  

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Potential energy from a previous configuration mismatch

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 10:40 AM, escajarro wrote:

This is my mdp file for energy minimization:

constraints  = none

; integration parameters
integrator   = l-bfgs
dt  = 0.00
nsteps= 15000

; center of mass removal
nstcomm  = 10
comm_mode = Linear

; neighbour searching
nstlist = 1
ns_type  = grid
pbc= xyz
rlist= 1.4

; electrostatics
coulombtype  = Reaction-Field-zero
rcoulomb   = 1.1
epsilon_r   = 1.0
epsilon_rf  = 0.0

; van der Waals interactions
vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw   = 1.4
DispCorr  = EnerPres

; Ewald parameters
fourierspacing  = 0.12
fourier_nx   = 0
fourier_ny   = 0
fourier_nz   = 0
pme_order  = 4
ewald_rtol   = 1e-6
optimize_fft = yes

; energy minimization
emtol= 0.1
emstep  = 0.01



And this is the one for MD

constraints  = none

; integration parameters
integrator   = md
tinit   = 0
dt  = 0.001
nsteps= 1000
;init_step= 0
comm_mode= linear
nstcomm = 10

; output control
nstxout = 1
nstvout = 1
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 1
energygrps= hexane-UA ethanol

; neigbour searching
nstlist   = 1
ns_type= grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist  = 1.4

; electrostatics
coulombtype  = Reaction-Field-zero
rcoulomb   = 1.1
epsilon_r   = 1.0
epsilon_rf  = 0.0

; van der Waals interactions
vdwtype  = cut-off
rvdw   = 1.4
DispCorr  = EnerPres

; Ewald parameters
fourierspacing   = 0.12
fourier_nx= 0
fourier_ny= 0
fourier_nz= 0
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol= 1e-6
optimize_fft  = yes

; Generate velocities
gen_vel   = yes
gen_temp= 298.0
gen_seed = -1


To use as the starting configuration the last configuration of the
minimization, I used the confout.gro file of the minimization as the input
conf.gro for MD. I also tried using the traj.trr file generated after
minimization with the grompp option -t for MD. I used the same top and ndx
files in both simulations.



The .mdp files look reasonable enough, though setting nstlist = 1 during MD will 
cost you a lot of performance.  A value in the 5-10 range should suffice.


Do other ensembles work, like NVT?  Does a smaller timestep affect stability?

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Szilárd Páll
Hi Justin,

First of all, thanks for the feedback. I find in unfortunate that this
information got public in the form of a by the way. More official wording
should follow. I wish it happened differently, but unfortunately things did
not come together as we thought they would. Dragging along code that for
the outsider seems supported, but in reality it is not properly maintained
is not beneficial to anyone. Therefore, we decided to demote mdrun-openmm
from core to contrib feature status. However, as we don't have a
maintainer for the code yet, the official state is not fully supported
contrib feature -- unless we find someone to help with at least minimal
support for 4.6.

I don't like to leave behind my own code, but the situation requires us to
focus our efforts on other things. The plan is to include native GPU
accelerated GB kernels in the next GROMACS release. While there is a good
chance that the code itself will become available in a development branch
rather soon, you will not be able to use this code in release version
before the next release, 5.0.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 11/29/12 12:51 PM, Albert wrote:

 On 11/29/2012 06:44 PM, Szilárd Páll wrote:

 Hi Albert,

 That claim is false. The current mdrun-opnemm version only supports the
 CUDA OpenMM plugin and even that is not fully supported as we don't have
 enough resources to maintain the code.

 We will make sure to get the false claim of ATI GPU support removed from
 the OpenMM website.

 Cheers,
 --
 Szilárd

 PS: we are looking for volunteers to maintain the Gromacs OpenMM
 integration and in the lack of such people we will have to resort to
 dropping OpenMM support post-4.6.


 Hello Szilard:

thanks for kind comments. If there are not so much people use openMM,
 probably you can consider give it up. Currently I am using NVIDIA GTX590
 GPU
 acceleration with Gromacs4.6 without openMM support, and it works fine (I
 did
 some tests comparing with CPU running results for my system). If I were
 you, I
 will save my time and energy focus on current version and road.




  This would be very unfortunate, I think, but I understand the need to
 focus on the most feasible development, using the time people have to
 commit to it, and perhaps priorities are elsewhere.  We invested heavily in
 a few GPU workstations in recent years with the intent of doing a lot of
 GPU-enabled implicit solvent simulations.  Without the GPU, the implicit
 solvent code is severely limited without fixes to the parallelization on
 CPU.


To be honest I am not aware of the limitations you are referring to, nor
the current difference between CPU and GPU implicit solvent performance.


 It seems that the same issues (i.e. one cannot use more than 2 processors
 for a run) still persist thus far in the development of 4.6, with the focus
 of using GPU's in a more


I'm especially not aware of such a limitation and it sounds more like a bug
than a feature.


 generalized way, but without OpenMM, implicit solvent simulations (in my
 hands at least) are not worth it.  Of course, running explicit-solvent
 simulations on GPU is quite nice, but still, the point stands that the
 implicit code is rendered largely obsolete without GPU.


As you rely heavily on implicit solvent code in GROMACS, we could use some
help from you. First and foremost, could you please report in form of a
redmine issue and/or a mail to the dev-list the current issues you are
having/you know of with both CPU and GPU implicit solvent code? We can
continue the discussion on on those topic then.

Cheers,
--
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Re: [gmx-users] Does GPU support ATI card?

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 6:40 PM, Szilárd Páll wrote:

Hi Justin,

First of all, thanks for the feedback. I find in unfortunate that this
information got public in the form of a by the way. More official wording
should follow. I wish it happened differently, but unfortunately things did
not come together as we thought they would. Dragging along code that for
the outsider seems supported, but in reality it is not properly maintained
is not beneficial to anyone. Therefore, we decided to demote mdrun-openmm
from core to contrib feature status. However, as we don't have a
maintainer for the code yet, the official state is not fully supported
contrib feature -- unless we find someone to help with at least minimal
support for 4.6.

I don't like to leave behind my own code, but the situation requires us to
focus our efforts on other things. The plan is to include native GPU
accelerated GB kernels in the next GROMACS release. While there is a good
chance that the code itself will become available in a development branch
rather soon, you will not be able to use this code in release version
before the next release, 5.0.



If there's intent to create native GPU features within Gromacs, I'm totally fine 
with it.  Quality over time is certainly preferred to somewhat functional stuff now.


Further comments below...


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 11/29/12 12:51 PM, Albert wrote:


On 11/29/2012 06:44 PM, Szilárd Páll wrote:


Hi Albert,

That claim is false. The current mdrun-opnemm version only supports the
CUDA OpenMM plugin and even that is not fully supported as we don't have
enough resources to maintain the code.

We will make sure to get the false claim of ATI GPU support removed from
the OpenMM website.

Cheers,
--
Szilárd

PS: we are looking for volunteers to maintain the Gromacs OpenMM
integration and in the lack of such people we will have to resort to
dropping OpenMM support post-4.6.



Hello Szilard:

thanks for kind comments. If there are not so much people use openMM,
probably you can consider give it up. Currently I am using NVIDIA GTX590
GPU
acceleration with Gromacs4.6 without openMM support, and it works fine (I
did
some tests comparing with CPU running results for my system). If I were
you, I
will save my time and energy focus on current version and road.







  This would be very unfortunate, I think, but I understand the need to
focus on the most feasible development, using the time people have to
commit to it, and perhaps priorities are elsewhere.  We invested heavily in
a few GPU workstations in recent years with the intent of doing a lot of
GPU-enabled implicit solvent simulations.  Without the GPU, the implicit
solvent code is severely limited without fixes to the parallelization on
CPU.



To be honest I am not aware of the limitations you are referring to, nor
the current difference between CPU and GPU implicit solvent performance.



It seems that the same issues (i.e. one cannot use more than 2 processors
for a run) still persist thus far in the development of 4.6, with the focus
of using GPU's in a more



I'm especially not aware of such a limitation and it sounds more like a bug
than a feature.



Right, I filed a bug report a long time ago:

http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/777

Berk applied a band-aid such that one can only use 2 processors for running on 
CPU.  In my mind, this remains a bug, but at least it is possible to run.  The 
failures are somehow related to constraints being split over multiple 
processors, and mdrun quickly exits with a fatal error if one tries to run using 
more than 2 processors.


I can certainly file a new Redmine feature request to make sure we consider a 
better resolution for the future.





generalized way, but without OpenMM, implicit solvent simulations (in my
hands at least) are not worth it.  Of course, running explicit-solvent
simulations on GPU is quite nice, but still, the point stands that the
implicit code is rendered largely obsolete without GPU.



As you rely heavily on implicit solvent code in GROMACS, we could use some
help from you. First and foremost, could you please report in form of a
redmine issue and/or a mail to the dev-list the current issues you are
having/you know of with both CPU and GPU implicit solvent code? We can
continue the discussion on on those topic then.



I can certainly do that.  I suspect most of the problems (aside from the one 
described above) are related to OpenMM.  A good number of my simulations simply 
crash for no discernible reason.  I reported some a while ago and got no 
feedback, so I just basically abandoned that approach and have been waiting for 
the official 4.6 release to run explicit solvent stuff on GPU.  In any case, I'm 
happy to keep following up on such things.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] How are the charges of the gromos96 forcefiel calculated ?

2012-11-29 Thread Tanos Franca

Dear users,
I'm trying to find out how the atoms charges in the GROMOS96 force 
field were calculated but I've not been able to find out in the manual 
or in the paper I saw so far. I know that the force fields for MM have 
the atoms charges calculated by ab initio mathods but I wonder with 
method was used to GROMOS96. Was it B3LYP 6-31G* in the same way as for 
OPLSaa ?

Thanks for helping.
Tanos C. C. Franca.
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Re: [gmx-users] How are the charges of the gromos96 forcefiel calculated ?

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 9:06 PM, Tanos Franca wrote:

 Dear users,
 I'm trying to find out how the atoms charges in the GROMOS96 force field
were calculated but I've not been able to find out in the manual or in the paper
I saw so far. I know that the force fields for MM have the atoms charges
calculated by ab initio mathods but I wonder with method was used to GROMOS96.
Was it B3LYP 6-31G* in the same way as for OPLSaa ?


The original methodology for Gromos87 and Gromos96 charge derivation is not 
publicly available, but is in the Gromos software manuals from what I 
understand.  I spoke with a member of their group recently and apparently some 
basic electron density calculations were done and then charges were fitted 
empirically until satisfactory results were achieved.  We published a paper a 
few years ago with some suggestions for more definable methodology using common 
programs: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ci100335w.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Build problem with 4.6beta1

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul


Hooray for being the first to report a problem with the beta :)

We have a cluster at our university that provides us with access to some 
CPU-only nodes and some CPU-GPU nodes.  I'm having problems with getting 
4.6beta1 to build, and I suspect the issue is related to GPU detection.


Here are some specifics:

FFTW 3.3.3
CMake 2.8.10
gcc 4.3.4
CUDA 4.0
64-bit Linux on AMD hardware
GPU nodes have Tesla C2050 cards

Commands:

cmake ../gromacs-4.6-beta1 
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/jalemkul/software/gromacs-46beta1 -DGMX_X11=OFF 
-DGMX_GPU=ON -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=gcc -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=g++ 
-DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/jalemkul/software/fftw-3.3.3/


The first step runs alright, but two things to note:

1. It doesn't detect any GPU, which is correct because I'm on a head node and 
not a compute node:


...-- Looking for NVIDIA GPUs present in the system
-- Could not detect NVIDIA GPUs
-- Found CUDA: /cm/shared/apps/cuda40/toolkit/4.0.17 (found suitable version 
4.0, minimum required is 3.2)

...

2. It says FFTW isn't detected, but it actually is:

...
-- checking for module 'fftw3f'
--   package 'fftw3f' not found
-- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in 
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
-- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in 
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - found
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in 
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in 
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - not found
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in 
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in 
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - found

...

Upon running make, I get an immediate failure:

[  0%] Building NVCC (Device) object 
src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir//./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o

nvcc fatal   : redefinition of argument 'compiler-bindir'
CMake Error at gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o.cmake:206 (message):
  Error generating

/home/jalemkul/gmxbuild/src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir//./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o


make[2]: *** 
[src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o] 
Error 1

make[1]: *** [src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

Any ideas?  I'm guessing it's related to the GPU detection failing, because I 
can build on a workstation in our lab that has a C2075 card.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Build problem with 4.6beta1

2012-11-29 Thread Roland Schulz
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 Hooray for being the first to report a problem with the beta :)

 We have a cluster at our university that provides us with access to some
 CPU-only nodes and some CPU-GPU nodes.  I'm having problems with getting
 4.6beta1 to build, and I suspect the issue is related to GPU detection.

 Here are some specifics:

 FFTW 3.3.3
 CMake 2.8.10
 gcc 4.3.4
 CUDA 4.0
 64-bit Linux on AMD hardware
 GPU nodes have Tesla C2050 cards

 Commands:

 cmake ../gromacs-4.6-beta1
 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/jalemkul/software/gromacs-46beta1
 -DGMX_X11=OFF
 -DGMX_GPU=ON -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=gcc -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=g++
 -DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/jalemkul/software/fftw-3.3.3/

 The first step runs alright, but two things to note:

 1. It doesn't detect any GPU, which is correct because I'm on a head node
 and
 not a compute node:

 ...-- Looking for NVIDIA GPUs present in the system
 -- Could not detect NVIDIA GPUs

This is not a warning just a note. Is this confusing?


 -- Found CUDA: /cm/shared/apps/cuda40/toolkit/4.0.17 (found suitable
 version
 4.0, minimum required is 3.2)
 ...

 2. It says FFTW isn't detected, but it actually is:

 ...
 -- checking for module 'fftw3f'
 --   package 'fftw3f' not found

It checks several ways. The first (pgkconfig) din't work. Again just a note.


 -- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in
 /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
 -- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in
 /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - found
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in
 /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in
 /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - not found
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in
 /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in
 /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - found
 ...

 Upon running make, I get an immediate failure:

 [  0%] Building NVCC (Device) object

 src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir//./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o
 nvcc fatal   : redefinition of argument 'compiler-bindir'
 CMake Error at gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o.cmake:206 (message):
Error generating


 /home/jalemkul/gmxbuild/src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir//./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o


 make[2]: ***

 [src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o]
 Error 1
 make[1]: *** [src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/all] Error 2
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 Any ideas?  I'm guessing it's related to the GPU detection failing,
 because I
 can build on a workstation in our lab that has a C2075 card.


Could be this cmake bug: http://www.gccxml.org/Bug/view.php?id=13674
Could you try whether any other cmake version (e.g. 2.8.9) works?

Roland



 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Build problem with 4.6beta1

2012-11-29 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 11/29/12 9:34 PM, Roland Schulz wrote:

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



Hooray for being the first to report a problem with the beta :)

We have a cluster at our university that provides us with access to some
CPU-only nodes and some CPU-GPU nodes.  I'm having problems with getting
4.6beta1 to build, and I suspect the issue is related to GPU detection.

Here are some specifics:

FFTW 3.3.3
CMake 2.8.10
gcc 4.3.4
CUDA 4.0
64-bit Linux on AMD hardware
GPU nodes have Tesla C2050 cards

Commands:

cmake ../gromacs-4.6-beta1
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/jalemkul/software/gromacs-46beta1
-DGMX_X11=OFF
-DGMX_GPU=ON -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=gcc -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=g++
-DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/jalemkul/software/fftw-3.3.3/

The first step runs alright, but two things to note:

1. It doesn't detect any GPU, which is correct because I'm on a head node
and
not a compute node:

...-- Looking for NVIDIA GPUs present in the system
-- Could not detect NVIDIA GPUs


This is not a warning just a note. Is this confusing?



No, it's clear enough, and correct.  I just wasn't sure how Gromacs would handle 
building on a node where there is no GPU, but for which I am requesting a GPU 
build.  I guess it's not related (see below).





-- Found CUDA: /cm/shared/apps/cuda40/toolkit/4.0.17 (found suitable
version
4.0, minimum required is 3.2)
...

2. It says FFTW isn't detected, but it actually is:

...
-- checking for module 'fftw3f'
--   package 'fftw3f' not found


It checks several ways. The first (pgkconfig) din't work. Again just a note.



This one is weirder, but I guess harmless.  It's just strange to have the build 
system say I can't find FFTW, and then say just kidding, it's fine! ;)





-- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
-- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - found
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - not found
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so
-- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in
/home/jalemkul/ATHENA/software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so - found
...

Upon running make, I get an immediate failure:

[  0%] Building NVCC (Device) object

src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir//./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o
nvcc fatal   : redefinition of argument 'compiler-bindir'
CMake Error at gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o.cmake:206 (message):
Error generating


/home/jalemkul/gmxbuild/src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir//./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o


make[2]: ***

[src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/./gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.cu.o]
Error 1
make[1]: *** [src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

Any ideas?  I'm guessing it's related to the GPU detection failing,
because I
can build on a workstation in our lab that has a C2075 card.



Could be this cmake bug: http://www.gccxml.org/Bug/view.php?id=13674
Could you try whether any other cmake version (e.g. 2.8.9) works?



Yep, CMake bug.  Our previous version was 2.8.3, and that one works fine.  I'll 
install 2.8.9 for future builds.  Thanks, Roland.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Build problem with 4.6beta1

2012-11-29 Thread Szilárd Páll
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 Hooray for being the first to report a problem with the beta :)

 We have a cluster at our university that provides us with access to some
 CPU-only nodes and some CPU-GPU nodes.  I'm having problems with getting
 4.6beta1 to build, and I suspect the issue is related to GPU detection.

 Here are some specifics:

 FFTW 3.3.3
 CMake 2.8.10
 gcc 4.3.4
 CUDA 4.0
 64-bit Linux on AMD hardware
 GPU nodes have Tesla C2050 cards


Note that on AMD you might have to use less threads per process than the
default and therefore more than one process per GPU: set -gpu_id=00 for two
processes in a node to both use the first GPU. Additionally, you might want
to use a newer gcc and CUDA, both will provide performance improvements.



 Commands:

 cmake ../gromacs-4.6-beta1 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/**
 jalemkul/software/gromacs-**46beta1 -DGMX_X11=OFF -DGMX_GPU=ON
 -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=gcc -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=g++ -DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/
 **jalemkul/software/fftw-3.3.3/

 The first step runs alright, but two things to note:

 1. It doesn't detect any GPU, which is correct because I'm on a head node
 and not a compute node:

 ...-- Looking for NVIDIA GPUs present in the system
 -- Could not detect NVIDIA GPUs
 -- Found CUDA: /cm/shared/apps/cuda40/**toolkit/4.0.17 (found suitable
 version 4.0, minimum required is 3.2)
 ...


That is just an informative message. We try to detect GPUs on the build
machine to suggest users compiling with GPU acceleration enabled.



 2. It says FFTW isn't detected, but it actually is:

 ...
 -- checking for module 'fftw3f'
 --   package 'fftw3f' not found
 -- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/**
 software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/**libfftw3f.so
 -- Looking for fftwf_plan_r2r_1d in /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/**
 software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/**libfftw3f.so - found
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/**
 software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/**libfftw3f.so
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_avx in /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/**
 software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/**libfftw3f.so - not found
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/**
 software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/**libfftw3f.so
 -- Looking for fftwf_have_simd_sse2 in /home/jalemkul/ATHENA/**
 software/fftw-3.3.3/lib/**libfftw3f.so - found
 ...

 Upon running make, I get an immediate failure:

 [  0%] Building NVCC (Device) object src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/**
 CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir//./**gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.**cu.o
 nvcc fatal   : redefinition of argument 'compiler-bindir'
 CMake Error at gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.**cu.o.cmake:206 (message):
   Error generating

 /home/jalemkul/gmxbuild/src/**gmxlib/gpu_utils/CMakeFiles/**
 gpu_utils.dir//./gpu_utils_**generated_gpu_utils.cu.o


 make[2]: *** [src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/**CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/./**
 gpu_utils_generated_gpu_utils.**cu.o] Error 1
 make[1]: *** [src/gmxlib/gpu_utils/**CMakeFiles/gpu_utils.dir/all] Error 2
 make: *** [all] Error 2


That's bad and I don't exactly know why does it happen, it looks like the
nvcc host compiler gets double-set. Could you put your CMakeCache.txt of
this configuration into pastbin and link it (attachments are blocked, I
think)?

One option to get it work is to remove the -ccbin=/path/to/your/gcc form
the CUDA_NVCC_FLAGS cache variable and re-configure.

--
Szilárd



 Any ideas?  I'm guessing it's related to the GPU detection failing,
 because I can build on a workstation in our lab that has a C2075 card.

 -Justin

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