Re: [gmx-users] Removing Water from Final Simulation

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
... and see
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volumefor
prevention  cure.

Mark


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Dallas Warren dallas.war...@monash.eduwrote:

 trjconv for trajectories
 editconf for coordinate files

 Along with an appropriately generated index file (using make_ndx) which
 contains the molecules you want in the output within a single group.

 Catch ya,

 Dr. Dallas Warren
 Drug Discovery Biology
 Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
 381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3052
 dallas.war...@monash.edu
 +61 3 9903 9304
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 When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a
 nail.


  -Original Message-
  From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
  boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf Of Parker de Waal
  Sent: Monday, 3 June 2013 11:10 AM
  To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
  Subject: [gmx-users] Removing Water from Final Simulation
 
  Hi GMX users!
 
  I just completed my first 30 ns simulation and would to remove all
  water
  molecules from the resulting .gro and trajectory files for the sake of
  my
  HDD.
 
  Does anyone know how to do this?
 
  Cheers,
  Parker
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Re: [gmx-users] About the binary identical results by restarting from the checkpoint file

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Cuiying Jian cuiying_j...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Hi GROMACS Users,

 These days, I am testing restarting simulaitions with .cpt files. I
 already set nlist=1 in the .mdp file. I can restart my simulations (which
 are stopped manually) with the following commands (version 4.0.7):
 mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md -reprod
 -reprod is used to force binary identical simulaitons.

 During the restarted simulations, same number of processors are used as
 that in the simulation interrupted. The only case, in which I can get
 binary identical results with those from the continuous simulations (which
 are not stopped manually), is for SPC water molecules. Any other molecules
 (like -heptane), I can never get binary identical results with those from
 the continuous simulations.

 I also try to get new .tpr files by:
 tpbconv_s -s md.tpr -f md.trr -e md.edr -c md_c.tpr -cont
 and then:
 mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md_c.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md_c -reprod
 But I still cannot get binary identical results.

 I also test the simulations with only one processor and binary identical
 results are still not obtained. Using double precision does not solve the
 problems.

 I think that the above problems are caused by some information may not be
 stored during the running of the simulations.


That seems likely. The leading candidate would be a random number generator
you're using for a stochastic integrator. Your .mdp file would have been
useful.

On the other hand, if I run two independent simulations using the exactly
 same number of processors, the same commands and the same input files, i.e.
 mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md.tpr -deffnm md -reprod
 I can always get binary identical results from these two independent
 simulations.

 I understand that MD is chaotic and if we run simulation for enough long
 time, simulation results should converge. Also, there are factors which may
 affect the reproducibility as described in the GROMACS website. But for my
 purpose, I am curious about whether there are certain methods through which
 I can get binary identical results from restarted simulations and
 continuous simulations. Thanks a lot.


There are ways to be fully reproducible, but probably not every combination
of algorithms has that property. 4.0.7 is so old no problem will be fixed,
unless it can also be shown in 4.6 ;-)

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Re: [gmx-users] Pressure coupling

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
Probably. See manual 7.3.15. Semiisotropic with some zero compressibilities
is probably what you want.

Mark


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Marcelo Vanean vanea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone. I want to know if can be applied pressure coupling only in
 the z direction, allowing the edges x and y simulation box with fixed size.
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Re: [gmx-users] fattyn acid parameter in OPLSAA forcefield

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
Please email just gmx-users, not the owner or request addresses :-)

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:37 PM, fatemeh ramezani fr_...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Hi all

 I want to simulate protein-fatty acid-AU complexs by OPLSAA force field.
 But OPLSAA force field, hasn't any parameter for fatty acid. Can I use
 CHARMM fatty acid parameters in OPLSAA force field?


No. See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parametrization


 Anyone has better suggestion?


Read widely on similar efforts. Be prepared for a lengthy parameterization
process if nobody has done this kind of system before.

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[gmx-users] Re: umbrella sampling for two polymer interaction

2013-06-03 Thread Thomas Schlesier

Sorry, my writing was not really excat.
If you use a reference group, the force / potential acting on the pulled 
group is always relative to the reference group.
If you use 'pull_geometry = distance' the origin potential is always in 
the distance 'pull_init1' along the vector from the reference group to 
the pulled group. (assuming the pulling velocity is zero, else there 
would be an additional contribution).

Imagine an MD step. Both molecules have moved.
1) Calculate new origin of the umbrella potential
2) Calculate the forces
3) Let only these forces act which are allowed from 'pull_dim = X Y Z'
Some cases:
Y Y Y - Move the pulled group to the origin of umbrella potential
Y N N - let the force act only along the X-axis
N N N - let no force act
4) do next MD step and start again at (1)

So if one component is N the pulled group can move freely along this 
axis (relative to the reference group).


Just imagine the step of the pull-code as a step which happens after a 
MD step and remember that both step are independed from each other (ok, 
both use the coordinates from the previous step, but they are n that 
sense independend from each other as two following MD steps in a normal 
simulation).
This means, that in the MD step, both groups can move freely, as there 
is now umbrella potential. But in the pull-code step, we switch the 
potential on.


 Sorry confused. In AMBER I remember I did once methane-methane
 interaction,just distance based umbrella sampling. But there I did
 not provide any direction. So should it not be N N N in Gromacs if I
 want to allow them freely move in xyz.

With 'pull_gemoetry' you tell GROMACS how it should setup the pulling 
potential. With 'distance' it don't needs an explizit pull_vector, since 
GROMACS uses the vector connecting both groups.




Am 31.05.2013 21:04, schrieb gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org:

Dear Thomas,

Thanks a lot again for great reply. Please clarify this also,


If one uses only 'Y N N' B would only move along the x-axis due to the

pull, but could move freely in the yz-plane

You never want to use the pull-code and 'pull_dim = N N N'
This would mean that there is no force acting between your two groups.

Then one could have skipped using the pull-code...

So keeping Y N N will allow free movement in yz plane. So if I want A B to
move freely in xyz but just keep them separated by some distance with
spring const (just like two balloons tied to each other flying in air).
Sorry confused. In AMBER I remember I did once methane-methane interaction,
just distance based umbrella sampling. But there I did not provide any
direction. So should it not be N N N in Gromacs if I want to allow them
freely move in xyz.

thanks,



On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Thomas Schlesierschl...@uni-mainz.dewrote:


For comments to your questions see below.

More general: (somewhat longer than i wanted. Hope you find some answers
here)

Imagine two interacting particles A and B which are alinged to the x-axis.
We take A as the reference group, B as pulled group and put the origin of
the umbrella potential on top of B (pull_start=yes).
Simulation starts - A and B moves.
Pull-code step: From A we calculate the new position of the umbrella
potential, this is unequal to B, since B moved and our reference point move.
Now we have a force acting on B, 'pull_dim' controls in which directions
the force acts. With 'Y Y Y' B is pulled towards the origin of the umbrella
potential (and with this to the position it should have relative to A).
If one uses only 'Y N N' B would only move along the x-axis due to the
pull, but could move freely in the yz-plane. In the end one would get a
structure where A and B have the right distance in the x-axis but are miles
away from each other in the yz-plane.

Now imagine we pull B away from A. Since MD simulations normally separete
the movement of the center of mass of the system, it would look like A and
B would move away from a middle point.

(Interchanging A and B should give the same results).


Think in your case (doing umbrella sampling) the mdp-file you suggested
would be most appropiate (with 'pull_start=yes' and 'pull_ngroups=1'). This
gives you a potential which fixes the distance between the two proteins.
One thing you should be aware is that if you restrain the distance in 3d,
you have to account for entropic effects (see also the GROMACS manual). If
you restrain the system only in one direction, these don't arise. Think
this is the reason why one sees some work with umbrella sampling were the
restraint works only in one direction.


Am 31.05.2013 17:20, schriebgmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org:

  Dear Thomas,


Thanks a lot for your time and nice explanation. I was not able to get
specially the pull_start flag but now its quite clear.

I feel sorry, that should be pull_dim = N N N in my case. Also I will be
much thankful if you please can help me to make understand following:



STOP!!!
You never want to use the pull-code and 'pull_dim = N 

Re: [gmx-users] structure alignement :g_rmsdist

2013-06-03 Thread Nawel Mele
Hi,

THanks for your answers.
Just for be sure, with g_rmsdit the reference structure correspond to the
frame at time 0??
Because in the manual the rmsd equation show that reference structure
correspond to the time t=0 but the help doesn't confirm.

THanks a lot for your help,



2013/6/2 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com

 Hi Nawel,

 g_rmsdist calculates the RMSD of distances, and distances are invariant to
 translation and rotation.

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk


 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  THanks for your answers. I already seen the help for this command but
 when
  its write
  g_rmsdist computes the root mean square deviation of atom distances,
 which
  has the advantage that* no fit is needed* like in standard RMS deviation
 as
  computed by g_rms what mean excatly no fit is needed??
  Because when you compute a RMSD calculation its necessary to align the
  structure so I am a bit confused when its write no fit is needed.
  Fit is processed directly by the command?
 
  I am sorry I am little confused.
 
  THanks a lot
 
 
  2013/6/2 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 
   See g_rmsdist -h
  
   Mark
  
  
   On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Hello everyone.
   
During the calculation of the rms with g_rmsdist command , the
  reference
and the current structure are aligned before calculating??
   
Regards,
   
   
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Re: [gmx-users] structure alignement :g_rmsdist

2013-06-03 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Nawel,

The reference distances are computed from the reference structure provided
with the option -s.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 THanks for your answers.
 Just for be sure, with g_rmsdit the reference structure correspond to the
 frame at time 0??
 Because in the manual the rmsd equation show that reference structure
 correspond to the time t=0 but the help doesn't confirm.

 THanks a lot for your help,



 2013/6/2 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com

  Hi Nawel,
 
  g_rmsdist calculates the RMSD of distances, and distances are invariant
 to
  translation and rotation.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Tsjerk
 
 
  On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   THanks for your answers. I already seen the help for this command but
  when
   its write
   g_rmsdist computes the root mean square deviation of atom distances,
  which
   has the advantage that* no fit is needed* like in standard RMS
 deviation
  as
   computed by g_rms what mean excatly no fit is needed??
   Because when you compute a RMSD calculation its necessary to align the
   structure so I am a bit confused when its write no fit is needed.
   Fit is processed directly by the command?
  
   I am sorry I am little confused.
  
   THanks a lot
  
  
   2013/6/2 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  
See g_rmsdist -h
   
Mark
   
   
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 Hello everyone.

 During the calculation of the rms with g_rmsdist command , the
   reference
 and the current structure are aligned before calculating??

 Regards,


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Re: [gmx-users] structure alignement :g_rmsdist

2013-06-03 Thread Nawel Mele
Thanks, the tpr file using by -s option contains the starting structure of
the simulation so the reference structure correspond to the first structure.

Thanks a lot ,



2013/6/3 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com

 Hi Nawel,

 The reference distances are computed from the reference structure provided
 with the option -s.

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk


 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
  THanks for your answers.
  Just for be sure, with g_rmsdit the reference structure correspond to the
  frame at time 0??
  Because in the manual the rmsd equation show that reference structure
  correspond to the time t=0 but the help doesn't confirm.
 
  THanks a lot for your help,
 
 
 
  2013/6/2 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
 
   Hi Nawel,
  
   g_rmsdist calculates the RMSD of distances, and distances are invariant
  to
   translation and rotation.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Tsjerk
  
  
   On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
Hi,
   
THanks for your answers. I already seen the help for this command but
   when
its write
g_rmsdist computes the root mean square deviation of atom distances,
   which
has the advantage that* no fit is needed* like in standard RMS
  deviation
   as
computed by g_rms what mean excatly no fit is needed??
Because when you compute a RMSD calculation its necessary to align
 the
structure so I am a bit confused when its write no fit is needed.
Fit is processed directly by the command?
   
I am sorry I am little confused.
   
THanks a lot
   
   
2013/6/2 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
   
 See g_rmsdist -h

 Mark


 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Nawel Mele nawel.m...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Hello everyone.
 
  During the calculation of the rms with g_rmsdist command , the
reference
  and the current structure are aligned before calculating??
 
  Regards,
 
 
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  Master 2 In Silico Drug Design
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Re: [gmx-users] Vritual Sites and simulation time-step

2013-06-03 Thread James Starlight
Mark,

I've performed 50 ns simulation of water-soluble protein with and without
VS. As the consequence I've observed similar behavior of both systems in
case of secondfary structure conservation as well as overal degree of
conformational dynamics. Also I didnt observed any fluctuation in energy
and temperature (using SD as the thermostat and 2ps coupling).  Is there
any other Gromacs build-in tools on what I should paid more attention
during investigation stability of the system with VS ?


James

2013/6/2 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com

 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Mark,
 
  could you also provide me with some examples when usage of VS could give
  artifacts in simulations ?
 

 I don't know of any particular examples. This kind of thing tends to be
 tested ad hoc - how far can the time step be pushed and still reproduce
 some relevant observable? See GROMACS generalized Born paper. There is
 certainly some scope for people to investigate and publish such findings.
 See, for example, recent publications by Michael Shirts.

 In particular I'm interesting in usage of VS on hydrogens with membrane
  proteins.
 

 I really don't know anything there :-) I imagine people often use a
 united-atom lipid for a reason.

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[gmx-users] gmx 4.6.2 segementation fault (core dump)

2013-06-03 Thread Johannes Wagner
Hi there, 
trying to set up gmx-4.6.2, compiled with cuda 5.0.35 and gcc 4.7.2 on fedora 
linux, but it only gives me a segementation fault (core dump) on mdrun 
startup. Same compiling options on gmx 4.6.1 gives me a running mdrun. Did 
anyone encounter the same problem?

Thanks, Johannes

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[gmx-users] How to compile/run Gromacs on native Infiniband?

2013-06-03 Thread Bert
Dear all,

My cluster has a FDR (56 Gb/s) Infiniband network. It is well known that
there is a big difference between using IPoIB (IP over IB) with a normal
sockets application and using native InfiniBand with an application that
has been coded directly to the native IB verbs interface. The latter one
gets much higher throughput and lower latency, while spending less CPU on
networking.

Therefore, I wonder if Gromacs has the native IB verbs interface. If so,
how to compile and run Gromacs on native Infiniband? Any suggestions will
be appreciated.

Best Regards,
Bert
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[gmx-users] CG angle distribution

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear Gmx Users,

I am building coarse-grained model for my protein. I group them int0 5-10
atoms. I wish to reproduce atomistic equilibrium angles as well as the
spring constant.
Shall I use g_angle -od option and calulate distributions? Then I will use
equilibrium th0 as the centre of the gaussian distribution and adjust
spring constant to match this curve?
Please, advise.

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[gmx-users] frame

2013-06-03 Thread maggin
Hi, if I run 20ns MD, and want to get the pdb at 19532ps

trjconv -s  md_0_1.tpr -f md_0_1.xtc -o bovin19532.gro -dt 1 -b 19532  -e
19532

editconf -f bovin19532.gro -o bovin19532.pdb 

If is it right?

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Re: [gmx-users] frame

2013-06-03 Thread Johannes Wagner
better to convert ur frames in a time (ps) and use trjconv -dump to write out 
the frame.


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On 03.06.2013, at 15:33, maggin maggin.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, if I run 20ns MD, and want to get the pdb at 19532ps
 
 trjconv -s  md_0_1.tpr -f md_0_1.xtc -o bovin19532.gro -dt 1 -b 19532  -e
 19532
 
 editconf -f bovin19532.gro -o bovin19532.pdb 
 
 If is it right?
 
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[gmx-users] using previous window restart file

2013-06-03 Thread gromacs query
Dear All,

(Sorry for long mail!)

(Thanks Thomas Schlesier for clarifying previous umbrella queries)

I wish to run umbrella samplings using restart file of previous window.
e.g. initial distance between A (reference) and B (pulled group) is 1 nm
(10 Angs) then I intend to run 10 windows after each 1 Angstrom. Due to
some reasons I want to use restart file of previous window, so if suppose
1st window (10 Angstrom window) is done then I will use last restart file
of 1st window for 2nd window (9 Angstrom window)

(This is different from Justin's tutorial in which initial configurations
are generated in single pulling experiment).

 In such case as I said I want to use last restart of 1st Window for 2nd
window so obviously the distance will not be exactly 9 Angstrom between A
and B for 1st window restart file. What approach I should use for adjusting
initial distance being 9 Angstrom to get initial configuration for 2nd
window

Knowing the distance between A and B in the restart file of 1st window (say
'x')
then for second window y = 9 - x (where x can be  or  9),


First approach:

pull_rate1  = (y/1000) or even slower


Second approach:

pull_init1  = y
pull_rate1  = 0.0


Please Note for both the cases I can use pull_vec1 or pull rates (- or +)
for positive or negative relative movement to get exact 9 Angstrom window
distance

regards,
Jiomm
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[gmx-users] Re: gmx 4.6 mpi installation through openmpi?

2013-06-03 Thread escajarro
Hello all,

I have a very similar problem, but compiling both Gromacs 4.6 and 4.6.1 with
cmake and MPI support (no problems with non-MPI installation). I have cmake
version 2.8.7, openmpi version 1.4.1, and I am using gcc version 4.6.3 in a
linux Ubuntu 4.6.3. I use the cmake options:

cmake -DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON -DGMX_MPI=ON -DGMX_BINARY_SUFFIX=_mpi

A summary of the output given by this command is:

CUDA_TOOLKIT_ROOT_DIR not found or specified
-- Could NOT find CUDA (missing:  CUDA_TOOLKIT_ROOT_DIR CUDA_NVCC_EXECUTABLE
CUDA_INCLUDE_DIRS CUDA_CUDART_LIBRARY) (Required is at least version 3.2)
-- The GROMACS-managed build of FFTW 3 will configure with the following
optimizations: --enable-sse2
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to: /home/smith/gromacs-4.6

I believe that not having CUDA installed is not a problem, as I do not plan
to run in GPU, and nowhere in the installation manual says that it is
obligatory. After running make, the simulation stops with the following
message:

Linking C shared library libgmx_mpi.so
[ 53%] Built target gmx
Scanning dependencies of target gromacs_include_links
[ 53%] Generating gromacs
[ 53%] Built target gromacs_include_links
Scanning dependencies of target template
[ 53%] Building C object share/template/CMakeFiles/template.dir/template.c.o
Linking C executable template
../../src/gmxlib/libgmx_mpi.so.6: undefined reference to `__mth_i_dfloatuk'
../../src/gmxlib/libgmx_mpi.so.6: undefined reference to
`__builtin_va_gparg1'
../../src/gmxlib/libgmx_mpi.so.6: undefined reference to `__pgdbg_stub'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [share/template/template] Error 1
make[1]: *** [share/template/CMakeFiles/template.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

It looks like I lack one library somehow, but I do not know which one. I
tried to install fftw before installing gromacs, and tried with both shared
and dynamic libraries with the same result.

Can anybody help?

Thanks



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Re: [gmx-users] gmx 4.6.2 segementation fault (core dump)

2013-06-03 Thread Szilárd Páll
Thanks for reporting this.

he best would be a redmine bug with a tpr, command line invocation for
reproduction as well log output to see what software and hardware
configuration are you using.

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On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Johannes Wagner
johannes.wag...@h-its.org wrote:
 Hi there,
 trying to set up gmx-4.6.2, compiled with cuda 5.0.35 and gcc 4.7.2 on fedora 
 linux, but it only gives me a segementation fault (core dump) on mdrun 
 startup. Same compiling options on gmx 4.6.1 gives me a running mdrun. Did 
 anyone encounter the same problem?

 Thanks, Johannes

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Re: [gmx-users] gmx 4.6.2 segementation fault (core dump)

2013-06-03 Thread Johannes Wagner
hi, thanks for the prompt replies

~/programs/gromacs-4.6.2/bin$ ./mdrun -version

Program: ./mdrun
Gromacs version:VERSION 4.6.2
Precision:  single
Memory model:   64 bit
MPI library:thread_mpi
OpenMP support: enabled
GPU support:enabled
invsqrt routine:gmx_software_invsqrt(x)
CPU acceleration:   AVX_256
FFT library:fftw-3.3.2-sse2
Large file support: enabled
RDTSCP usage:   enabled
Built on:   Fri May 31 18:44:32 CEST 2013
Built by:   xx...@-its.org [CMAKE]
Build OS/arch:  Linux 3.8.8-100.fc17.x86_64 x86_64
Build CPU vendor:   GenuineIntel
Build CPU brand:Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Build CPU family:   6   Model: 58   Stepping: 9
Build CPU features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 f16c htt lahf_lm mmx msr 
nonstop_tsc pcid pclmuldq pdcm popcnt pse rdrnd rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4.1 sse4.2 
ssse3 tdt x2apic
C compiler: /usr/lib64/ccache/cc GNU cc (GCC) 4.7.2 20120921 (Red Hat 
4.7.2-2)
C compiler flags:   -mavx-Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers 
-Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value  -march=core-avx-i  
-fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast  -O3 -DNDEBUG
C++ compiler:   /usr/lib64/ccache/c++ GNU c++ (GCC) 4.7.2 20120921 (Red Hat 
4.7.2-2)
C++ compiler flags: -mavx   -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers 
-Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value   -fomit-frame-pointer 
-funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast  -O3 -DNDEBUG
CUDA compiler:  nvcc: NVIDIA (R) Cuda compiler driver;Copyright (c) 
2005-2012 NVIDIA Corporation;Built on Fri_Sep_21_17:28:58_PDT_2012;Cuda 
compilation tools, release 5.0, V0.2.1221
CUDA driver:5.0
CUDA runtime:   5.0


~/programs/gromacs-4.6.2/bin/mdrun -o gpu.log -s gpu.tpr -v

Back Off! I just backed up md.log to ./#md.log.1#
Reading file gpu.tpr, VERSION 4.6.2 (single precision)
Using 1 MPI thread
Using 4 OpenMP threads

1 GPU detected:
  #0: NVIDIA GeForce GT 640, compute cap.: 3.0, ECC:  no, stat: compatible

1 GPU auto-selected for this run: #0


Back Off! I just backed up traj.xtc to ./#traj.xtc.1#

Back Off! I just backed up ener.edr to ./#ener.edr.1#
starting mdrun 'triazole'
10 steps,100.0 ps.
Segmentation fault (core dumped)



.log file:



  1,1Anfang
Using a Gaussian width (1/beta) of 0.320163 nm for Ewald
Cut-off's:   NS: 1.004   Coulomb: 1   LJ: 1
System total charge: 0.000
Generated table with 1002 data points for Ewald.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1002 data points for LJ6.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1002 data points for LJ12.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1002 data points for 1-4 COUL.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1002 data points for 1-4 LJ6.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1002 data points for 1-4 LJ12.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm

Using CUDA 8x8 non-bonded kernels

Potential shift: LJ r^-12: 1.000 r^-6 1.000, Ewald 1.000e-05
Initialized non-bonded Ewald correction tables, spacing: 6.52e-04 size: 1536

Removing pbc first time
Pinning threads with an auto-selected logical core stride of 1
Center of mass motion removal mode is Linear
We have the following groups for center of mass motion removal:
  0:  rest

 PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE 
G. Bussi, D. Donadio and M. Parrinello
Canonical sampling through velocity rescaling
J. Chem. Phys. 126 (2007) pp. 014101
  --- Thank You ---  

There are: 18206 Atoms
Initial temperature: 299.372 K

Started mdrun on node 0 Mon Jun  3 16:09:59 2013

   Step   Time Lambda
  00.00.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
   Bond  AngleProper Dih. Ryckaert-Bell.  LJ-14
2.04376e+042.58927e+049.76653e+001.50764e+02   -5.89359e+02
 Coulomb-14LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.  Potential
   -2.69867e+05   -3.86496e+04   -4.94959e+043.97160e+03   -3.08139e+05
Kinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature Pressure (bar)
6.80836e+04   -2.40055e+052.99864e+02   -1.42021e+02




thats basically it. not much information, hence my email here in this list…

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Re: [gmx-users] gmx 4.6.2 segementation fault (core dump)

2013-06-03 Thread Szilárd Páll
I can't reproduce it on a very similar hardware and software
configuration. Can you provide a tpr? Is the segfault reproducible
with multiple configurations? Does mdrun work without GPUs (-nb cpu or
GMX_DISABLE_GPU_DETECTION=1 env. var)?
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On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Johannes Wagner
johannes.wag...@h-its.org wrote:
 hi, thanks for the prompt replies

 ~/programs/gromacs-4.6.2/bin$ ./mdrun -version

 Program: ./mdrun
 Gromacs version:VERSION 4.6.2
 Precision:  single
 Memory model:   64 bit
 MPI library:thread_mpi
 OpenMP support: enabled
 GPU support:enabled
 invsqrt routine:gmx_software_invsqrt(x)
 CPU acceleration:   AVX_256
 FFT library:fftw-3.3.2-sse2
 Large file support: enabled
 RDTSCP usage:   enabled
 Built on:   Fri May 31 18:44:32 CEST 2013
 Built by:   xx...@-its.org [CMAKE]
 Build OS/arch:  Linux 3.8.8-100.fc17.x86_64 x86_64
 Build CPU vendor:   GenuineIntel
 Build CPU brand:Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
 Build CPU family:   6   Model: 58   Stepping: 9
 Build CPU features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 f16c htt lahf_lm mmx msr 
 nonstop_tsc pcid pclmuldq pdcm popcnt pse rdrnd rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4.1 
 sse4.2 ssse3 tdt x2apic
 C compiler: /usr/lib64/ccache/cc GNU cc (GCC) 4.7.2 20120921 (Red Hat 
 4.7.2-2)
 C compiler flags:   -mavx-Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers 
 -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value  -march=core-avx-i  
 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast  -O3 -DNDEBUG
 C++ compiler:   /usr/lib64/ccache/c++ GNU c++ (GCC) 4.7.2 20120921 (Red 
 Hat 4.7.2-2)
 C++ compiler flags: -mavx   -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers 
 -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value   -fomit-frame-pointer 
 -funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast  -O3 -DNDEBUG
 CUDA compiler:  nvcc: NVIDIA (R) Cuda compiler driver;Copyright (c) 
 2005-2012 NVIDIA Corporation;Built on Fri_Sep_21_17:28:58_PDT_2012;Cuda 
 compilation tools, release 5.0, V0.2.1221
 CUDA driver:5.0
 CUDA runtime:   5.0


 ~/programs/gromacs-4.6.2/bin/mdrun -o gpu.log -s gpu.tpr -v

 Back Off! I just backed up md.log to ./#md.log.1#
 Reading file gpu.tpr, VERSION 4.6.2 (single precision)
 Using 1 MPI thread
 Using 4 OpenMP threads

 1 GPU detected:
   #0: NVIDIA GeForce GT 640, compute cap.: 3.0, ECC:  no, stat: compatible

 1 GPU auto-selected for this run: #0


 Back Off! I just backed up traj.xtc to ./#traj.xtc.1#

 Back Off! I just backed up ener.edr to ./#ener.edr.1#
 starting mdrun 'triazole'
 10 steps,100.0 ps.
 Segmentation fault (core dumped)



 .log file:

   
   
   1,1Anfang
 Using a Gaussian width (1/beta) of 0.320163 nm for Ewald
 Cut-off's:   NS: 1.004   Coulomb: 1   LJ: 1
 System total charge: 0.000
 Generated table with 1002 data points for Ewald.
 Tabscale = 500 points/nm
 Generated table with 1002 data points for LJ6.
 Tabscale = 500 points/nm
 Generated table with 1002 data points for LJ12.
 Tabscale = 500 points/nm
 Generated table with 1002 data points for 1-4 COUL.
 Tabscale = 500 points/nm
 Generated table with 1002 data points for 1-4 LJ6.
 Tabscale = 500 points/nm
 Generated table with 1002 data points for 1-4 LJ12.
 Tabscale = 500 points/nm

 Using CUDA 8x8 non-bonded kernels

 Potential shift: LJ r^-12: 1.000 r^-6 1.000, Ewald 1.000e-05
 Initialized non-bonded Ewald correction tables, spacing: 6.52e-04 size: 1536

 Removing pbc first time
 Pinning threads with an auto-selected logical core stride of 1
 Center of mass motion removal mode is Linear
 We have the following groups for center of mass motion removal:
   0:  rest

  PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE 
 G. Bussi, D. Donadio and M. Parrinello
 Canonical sampling through velocity rescaling
 J. Chem. Phys. 126 (2007) pp. 014101
   --- Thank You ---  

 There are: 18206 Atoms
 Initial temperature: 299.372 K

 Started mdrun on node 0 Mon Jun  3 16:09:59 2013

Step   Time Lambda
   00.00.0

Energies (kJ/mol)
Bond  AngleProper Dih. Ryckaert-Bell.  LJ-14
 2.04376e+042.58927e+049.76653e+001.50764e+02   -5.89359e+02
  Coulomb-14LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip.  Potential
-2.69867e+05   -3.86496e+04   -4.94959e+043.97160e+03   -3.08139e+05
 Kinetic En.   Total EnergyTemperature Pressure (bar)
 6.80836e+04   -2.40055e+052.99864e+02   -1.42021e+02




 thats basically it. not much information, hence my email here in this list…

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[gmx-users] Setting total simulation time

2013-06-03 Thread Parker de Waal
Hi GMX-users,

If I wanted to run a 1 ns simulation take snapshots every 1 ps would these
be the correct input parameters?

Thanks!

; Run parameters
integrator  = md
nsteps  = 50
dt  = 0.002
; Output control
nstxout = 1000
nstvout = 1000
nstenergy   = 1000
nstlog  = 1000
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[gmx-users] Re: frame

2013-06-03 Thread maggin
How to convert ur frames in a time (ps)?

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: gmx 4.6 mpi installation through openmpi?

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
That looks like there's a PGI compiler getting used at some point (perhaps
the internal FFTW build is picking up the CC environment var? I forget how
that gets its compiler!). If you do find * -name config.log then perhaps
you can see in that file what the FFTW build thinks about its compiler.

Mark


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:00 PM, escajarro juan-manuel.casti...@mv.uni-kl.de
 wrote:

 Hello all,

 I have a very similar problem, but compiling both Gromacs 4.6 and 4.6.1
 with
 cmake and MPI support (no problems with non-MPI installation). I have cmake
 version 2.8.7, openmpi version 1.4.1, and I am using gcc version 4.6.3 in a
 linux Ubuntu 4.6.3. I use the cmake options:

 cmake -DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON -DGMX_MPI=ON -DGMX_BINARY_SUFFIX=_mpi

 A summary of the output given by this command is:

 CUDA_TOOLKIT_ROOT_DIR not found or specified
 -- Could NOT find CUDA (missing:  CUDA_TOOLKIT_ROOT_DIR
 CUDA_NVCC_EXECUTABLE
 CUDA_INCLUDE_DIRS CUDA_CUDART_LIBRARY) (Required is at least version 3.2)
 -- The GROMACS-managed build of FFTW 3 will configure with the following
 optimizations: --enable-sse2
 -- Configuring done
 -- Generating done
 -- Build files have been written to: /home/smith/gromacs-4.6

 I believe that not having CUDA installed is not a problem, as I do not plan
 to run in GPU, and nowhere in the installation manual says that it is
 obligatory. After running make, the simulation stops with the following
 message:

 Linking C shared library libgmx_mpi.so
 [ 53%] Built target gmx
 Scanning dependencies of target gromacs_include_links
 [ 53%] Generating gromacs
 [ 53%] Built target gromacs_include_links
 Scanning dependencies of target template
 [ 53%] Building C object
 share/template/CMakeFiles/template.dir/template.c.o
 Linking C executable template
 ../../src/gmxlib/libgmx_mpi.so.6: undefined reference to `__mth_i_dfloatuk'
 ../../src/gmxlib/libgmx_mpi.so.6: undefined reference to
 `__builtin_va_gparg1'
 ../../src/gmxlib/libgmx_mpi.so.6: undefined reference to `__pgdbg_stub'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [share/template/template] Error 1
 make[1]: *** [share/template/CMakeFiles/template.dir/all] Error 2
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 It looks like I lack one library somehow, but I do not know which one. I
 tried to install fftw before installing gromacs, and tried with both shared
 and dynamic libraries with the same result.

 Can anybody help?

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Re: [gmx-users] Setting total simulation time

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
Try smaller numbers and periods for a test run, and see the machinery work.
gmxcheck on the output files is your friend!

Mark


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Parker de Waal parker.dewaa...@kzoo.eduwrote:

 Hi GMX-users,

 If I wanted to run a 1 ns simulation take snapshots every 1 ps would these
 be the correct input parameters?

 Thanks!

 ; Run parameters
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 nsteps  = 50
 dt  = 0.002
 ; Output control
 nstxout = 1000
 nstvout = 1000
 nstenergy   = 1000
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: frame

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
You chose your time step... ;-)

Mark


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: frame

2013-06-03 Thread Johannes Wagner
well, you basically just did it… 20ns is 20,000ps. so trjconv -dump 19532 -s 
xxx -f xxx




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[gmx-users] frame in VMD

2013-06-03 Thread maggin
Hi, I use VMD to see GROMACS trajectory, I run 20ns md, there are 10,000,000
step, when load to VMD, it total 2777 frames. 

I don't known if there something wrong in it ? 

How to get the frame about 19532ps? 

Thank you very much! 

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Re: [gmx-users] frame in VMD

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
Probably, VMD tries to load the whole trajectory into memory, and that runs
out. You should be using trjconv to get a particular frame. Also see
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume
to
avoid generating redundant information to throw away later.

Mark

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 Hi, I use VMD to see GROMACS trajectory, I run 20ns md, there are
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 step, when load to VMD, it total 2777 frames.

 I don't known if there something wrong in it ?

 How to get the frame about 19532ps?

 Thank you very much!

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Re: [gmx-users] Vritual Sites and simulation time-step

2013-06-03 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi James,

Not related to the integration stability as such, but since the vsites affect 
the hydrogens by definition perhaps g_hbond can reveal systematic differences 
between simulations with and without vsites. I believe Feenstra et al did this 
in the paper describing vsites in the first place.

Erik

On 3 Jun 2013, at 14:03, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mark,
 
 I've performed 50 ns simulation of water-soluble protein with and without
 VS. As the consequence I've observed similar behavior of both systems in
 case of secondfary structure conservation as well as overal degree of
 conformational dynamics. Also I didnt observed any fluctuation in energy
 and temperature (using SD as the thermostat and 2ps coupling).  Is there
 any other Gromacs build-in tools on what I should paid more attention
 during investigation stability of the system with VS ?
 
 
 James
 
 2013/6/2 Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 
 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM, James Starlight jmsstarli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Mark,
 
 could you also provide me with some examples when usage of VS could give
 artifacts in simulations ?
 
 
 I don't know of any particular examples. This kind of thing tends to be
 tested ad hoc - how far can the time step be pushed and still reproduce
 some relevant observable? See GROMACS generalized Born paper. There is
 certainly some scope for people to investigate and publish such findings.
 See, for example, recent publications by Michael Shirts.
 
 In particular I'm interesting in usage of VS on hydrogens with membrane
 proteins.
 
 
 I really don't know anything there :-) I imagine people often use a
 united-atom lipid for a reason.
 
 Mark
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[gmx-users] Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Neha
Hello everybody,

I am a new user to Gromacs and am working on lipid simulations with the
Martini forcefield. The Martini website provides a pre-equilibrated DPPC
bilayer, and I was wondering if there were any told that would allow me to
convert this bilayer into a monolayer. For periodic boundary conditions to
work, I was thinking of a stack that would go like 

Water
Lipid Heads
Tails
Vacuum
Tails
Lipid Heads
Water

Is there any way to split apart the provided bilayer using some combination
of Gromacs tools and introduce a space of at least 10 nm which is apparently
the distance needed for the tails to not interact with each other?

If there is no way of simply splitting the bilayer, what would you recommend
for creating a simulation of lipid monolayers from a single DPPC molecule? I
feel like I could use genconf but it might require too much equilibration. I
am hopeful that there is some way of simply working with the provided
bilayer.

Any help would be appreciated! 



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Re: [gmx-users] Setting total simulation time

2013-06-03 Thread Parker de Waal
Thanks Mark,

Using the above I ran gmxcheck -f nvt.trr

Here is the resulting out put

Last frame500 time 1000.000

Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step   5012
Time   5012
Lambda 5012
Coords 5012
Velocities 5012
Forces   0
Box5012

Does this mean I can interpret this as 1 ns of simulation with output every
2 ps?

Also I thought when I assigned values for output at 1000, such as nstxout =
1000, that I would get an write of data every 1 ps?

I'm moderately confused!

Parker


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Try smaller numbers and periods for a test run, and see the machinery work.
 gmxcheck on the output files is your friend!

 Mark


 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Parker de Waal parker.dewaa...@kzoo.edu
 wrote:

  Hi GMX-users,
 
  If I wanted to run a 1 ns simulation take snapshots every 1 ps would
 these
  be the correct input parameters?
 
  Thanks!
 
  ; Run parameters
  integrator  = md
  nsteps  = 50
  dt  = 0.002
  ; Output control
  nstxout = 1000
  nstvout = 1000
  nstenergy   = 1000
  nstlog  = 1000
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Re: [gmx-users] Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Gunther Lukat
You could try packmol or the MembraneEditor.

http://www.cellmicrocosmos.org/index_cm2.php


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Am 03.06.2013 um 18:43 schrieb Neha nshafi...@wesleyan.edu:

 Hello everybody,
 
 I am a new user to Gromacs and am working on lipid simulations with the
 Martini forcefield. The Martini website provides a pre-equilibrated DPPC
 bilayer, and I was wondering if there were any told that would allow me to
 convert this bilayer into a monolayer. For periodic boundary conditions to
 work, I was thinking of a stack that would go like 
 
 Water
 Lipid Heads
 Tails
 Vacuum
 Tails
 Lipid Heads
 Water
 
 Is there any way to split apart the provided bilayer using some combination
 of Gromacs tools and introduce a space of at least 10 nm which is apparently
 the distance needed for the tails to not interact with each other?
 
 If there is no way of simply splitting the bilayer, what would you recommend
 for creating a simulation of lipid monolayers from a single DPPC molecule? I
 feel like I could use genconf but it might require too much equilibration. I
 am hopeful that there is some way of simply working with the provided
 bilayer.
 
 Any help would be appreciated! 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hey :)

Just center the bilayer around z=0, solvate and put all molecules in the
box with trjconv. Then add 10 to the PBC Z-component (third number from the
last line in the .gro file).

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Gunther Lukat g.lu...@gmx.net wrote:

 You could try packmol or the MembraneEditor.

 http://www.cellmicrocosmos.org/index_cm2.php


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 Am 03.06.2013 um 18:43 schrieb Neha nshafi...@wesleyan.edu:

  Hello everybody,
 
  I am a new user to Gromacs and am working on lipid simulations with the
  Martini forcefield. The Martini website provides a pre-equilibrated DPPC
  bilayer, and I was wondering if there were any told that would allow me
 to
  convert this bilayer into a monolayer. For periodic boundary conditions
 to
  work, I was thinking of a stack that would go like
 
  Water
  Lipid Heads
  Tails
  Vacuum
  Tails
  Lipid Heads
  Water
 
  Is there any way to split apart the provided bilayer using some
 combination
  of Gromacs tools and introduce a space of at least 10 nm which is
 apparently
  the distance needed for the tails to not interact with each other?
 
  If there is no way of simply splitting the bilayer, what would you
 recommend
  for creating a simulation of lipid monolayers from a single DPPC
 molecule? I
  feel like I could use genconf but it might require too much
 equilibration. I
  am hopeful that there is some way of simply working with the provided
  bilayer.
 
  Any help would be appreciated!
 
 
 
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[gmx-users] RE: About the binary identical results by restarting from the checkpoint file

2013-06-03 Thread Cuiying Jian
Hi Mark,
 
Thanks for your reply. I tested restarting simulations with .cpt files by 
GROMACS 4.6.1.  and the problems are still there, i.e. I cannot get binary 
identical results from restarted simulations with those from continuous 
simulations. The command I used for restarting is as the following (Only one 
processor is used during the simulations.):
mdrun -v -s md.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md -reprod 
 
 
For further information, I attach my original .mdp file below:
constraints  =  all-bonds ; convert all bonds to constraints.
integrator =  md
dt  =  0.002  ; ps !
nsteps  =  1 ; total 2 ns.
nstcomm =  10; frequency for center of mass 
motion removal.
nstxout=  5  ; collect data every 10.0 ps.
nstxtcout =  5  ; frequency to write coordinate 
to xtc trajectory.
nstvout=  5  ; frequency to write 
velocities to output trajectory.
nstfout =  5  ; frequency to write forces 
to output trajectory.
nstlog   =  5  ; frequency to write 
energies to log file.
nstenergy=  5  ; frequency to write energies to 
energy file.
nstlist   =  1   ; frequency to update the 
neighbor list.
ns_type   =  grid
rlist   =  1.4
coulombtype  =  PME
rcoulomb=  1.4
vdwtype  =  cut-off
rvdw =  1.4
pme_order  =  8 ; use 6,8 or 10 when 
running in parallel
ewald_rtol   =  1e-5
optimize_fft=  yes
DispCorr   =  no ; don't apply any correction   
;open LINCS
constraint_algorithm = LINCS
lincs_order   = 4   ;highest order in the expansion 
of the constraint coupling matrix
lincs_warnangle  = 30 ;maximum angle that a bond can rotate 
before LINCS will complain
lincs_iter  = 1;number of iterations to 
correct for a rotational lengthening in LINCS
; Temperature coupling is on
Tcoupl  = v-rescale
tau_t = 0.1 
tc-grps  = HEP 
ref_t  =  300 
; Pressure  coupling is on
Pcoupl  = parrinello-rahman
Pcoupltype  = isotropic
tau_p= 1.0
compressibility   = 4.5e-5
ref_p = 1.0
; generate velocity is on at 300 K.
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp  = 300.0
gen_seed   = -1
 
Is there something wrong with my .mdp file or my command? Thanks a lot.
 
Cheers,
Cuiying
 On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Cuiying Jian cuiying_j...@hotmail.comwrote:
 
  Hi GROMACS Users,
 
  These days, I am testing restarting simulaitions with .cpt files. I
  already set nlist=1 in the .mdp file. I can restart my simulations (which
  are stopped manually) with the following commands (version 4.0.7):
  mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md -reprod
  -reprod is used to force binary identical simulaitons.
 
  During the restarted simulations, same number of processors are used as
  that in the simulation interrupted. The only case, in which I can get
  binary identical results with those from the continuous simulations (which
  are not stopped manually), is for SPC water molecules. Any other molecules
  (like -heptane), I can never get binary identical results with those from
  the continuous simulations.
 
  I also try to get new .tpr files by:
  tpbconv_s -s md.tpr -f md.trr -e md.edr -c md_c.tpr -cont
  and then:
  mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md_c.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md_c -reprod
  But I still cannot get binary identical results.
 
  I also test the simulations with only one processor and binary identical
  results are still not obtained. Using double precision does not solve the
  problems.
 
  I think that the above problems are caused by some information may not be
  stored during the running of the simulations.
 
 
 That seems likely. The leading candidate would be a random number generator
 you're using for a stochastic integrator. Your .mdp file would have been
 useful.
 
 On the other hand, if I run two independent simulations using the exactly
  same number of processors, the same commands and the same input files, i.e.
  mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md.tpr -deffnm md -reprod
  I can always get binary identical results from these two independent
  simulations.
 
  I understand that MD is chaotic and if we run simulation for enough long
  time, simulation results should converge. Also, there are factors which may
  affect the reproducibility as described in the GROMACS website. But for my
  

Re: [gmx-users] Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Mirco Wahab

On 03.06.2013 18:43, Neha wrote:

I am a new user to Gromacs and am working on lipid simulations with the
Martini forcefield. The Martini website provides a pre-equilibrated DPPC
bilayer, and I was wondering if there were any told that would allow me to
convert this bilayer into a monolayer. For periodic boundary conditions to
work, I was thinking of a stack that would go like

Water
Lipid Heads
Tails
Vacuum
Tails
Lipid Heads
Water


Is this the 128 DPPC system from
http://md.chem.rug.nl/cgmartini/index.php/downloads/example-applications/66-dppc-membrane
(2x 64 DPPC + 2000 W)?


Is there any way to split apart the provided bilayer using some combination
of Gromacs tools and introduce a space of at least 10 nm which is apparently
the distance needed for the tails to not interact with each other?


The layers are, 'afaics', somehow interdigitated and placed in a box
normal to z with a z height of 10nm and centered at about 5nm. They
are not sorted (first 64 lower, secod 64 upper layer).


If there is no way of simply splitting the bilayer, what would you recommend
for creating a simulation of lipid monolayers from a single DPPC molecule? I
feel like I could use genconf but it might require too much equilibration. I
am hopeful that there is some way of simply working with the provided
bilayer.


What I would do: write a simple script, read 12 lines (one molecule) and
check for the z coordinate of the NC3 type (first entry of each 12 line
record). Then, decide:
 - if NC3[z]  6 then add 1.0 to all 12 z coordinates (nm)
 - if NC3[z]  4 then keep it
write the 12 lines back to another file, either modified or unmodified.
next 12 lines/molecule (128 times total)

Then, the waters. This is somehow arbitrary. Maybe you could check if
each water's (W) z coordinate is below 5, so keep it - or above 5,
so move it up. This will, of course, require some steepest descent
minimization afterwards.




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Re: [gmx-users] RE: About the binary identical results by restarting from the checkpoint file

2013-06-03 Thread Mark Abraham
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Cuiying Jian cuiying_j...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Thanks for your reply. I tested restarting simulations with .cpt files by
 GROMACS 4.6.1.  and the problems are still there, i.e. I cannot get binary
 identical results from restarted simulations with those from continuous
 simulations. The command I used for restarting is as the following (Only
 one processor is used during the simulations.):
 mdrun -v -s md.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md -reprod


This is not generally enough to generate a serial run in 4.6, by the way.
GROMACS tries very hard to automatically use all the resources available in
the best way. See mdrun -h for various -nt* options, and consult the
pre-step-0 part of the .log file for feedback.

For further information, I attach my original .mdp file below:
 constraints  =  all-bonds ; convert all bonds to
 constraints.
 integrator =  md
 dt  =  0.002  ; ps !
 nsteps  =  1 ; total 2 ns.
 nstcomm =  10; frequency for center of
 mass motion removal.
 nstxout=  5  ; collect data every 10.0
 ps.
 nstxtcout =  5  ; frequency to write
 coordinate to xtc trajectory.
 nstvout=  5  ; frequency to write
 velocities to output trajectory.
 nstfout =  5  ; frequency to write
 forces to output trajectory.
 nstlog   =  5  ; frequency to write
 energies to log file.
 nstenergy=  5  ; frequency to write
 energies to energy file.
 nstlist   =  1   ; frequency to update
 the neighbor list.
 ns_type   =  grid
 rlist   =  1.4
 coulombtype  =  PME
 rcoulomb=  1.4
 vdwtype  =  cut-off
 rvdw =  1.4
 pme_order  =  8 ; use 6,8 or 10
 when running in parallel
 ewald_rtol   =  1e-5
 optimize_fft=  yes
 DispCorr   =  no ; don't apply any
 correction
 ;open LINCS
 constraint_algorithm = LINCS
 lincs_order   = 4   ;highest order in the
 expansion of the constraint coupling matrix
 lincs_warnangle  = 30 ;maximum angle that a bond can
 rotate before LINCS will complain
 lincs_iter  = 1;number of iterations
 to correct for a rotational lengthening in LINCS
 ; Temperature coupling is on
 Tcoupl  = v-rescale


This coupling algorithm has a stochastic component, and at least at some
points in history the random number generator was either not checkpointed
properly, or not propagated in parallel properly. I'm not sure offhand if
any of that has been fixed yet (I doubt it), but you can test (parts of)
this hypothesis by using Berendsen (in any GROMACS 4.x), or really being
sure you've run a single thread.

If Berendsen is fully reproducible, then the RNG is the issue. While that's
irritating, it probably won't get fixed before GROMACS 5 (as a side effect
of other stuff going on).

Mark

tau_t = 0.1
 tc-grps  = HEP
 ref_t  =  300
 ; Pressure  coupling is on
 Pcoupl  = parrinello-rahman
 Pcoupltype  = isotropic
 tau_p= 1.0
 compressibility   = 4.5e-5
 ref_p = 1.0
 ; generate velocity is on at 300 K.
 gen_vel  = yes
 gen_temp  = 300.0
 gen_seed   = -1

 Is there something wrong with my .mdp file or my command? Thanks a lot.

 Cheers,
 Cuiying
  On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Cuiying Jian cuiying_j...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi GROMACS Users,
  
   These days, I am testing restarting simulaitions with .cpt files. I
   already set nlist=1 in the .mdp file. I can restart my simulations
 (which
   are stopped manually) with the following commands (version 4.0.7):
   mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md -reprod
   -reprod is used to force binary identical simulaitons.
  
   During the restarted simulations, same number of processors are used as
   that in the simulation interrupted. The only case, in which I can get
   binary identical results with those from the continuous simulations
 (which
   are not stopped manually), is for SPC water molecules. Any other
 molecules
   (like -heptane), I can never get binary identical results with those
 from
   the continuous simulations.
  
   I also try to get new .tpr files by:
   tpbconv_s -s md.tpr -f md.trr -e md.edr -c md_c.tpr -cont
   and then:
   mpiexec mdrun_s_mpi -v -s md_c.tpr -cpt 0 -cpi md.cpt -deffnm md_c
 -reprod
   But I still cannot get binary identical 

[gmx-users] Re: Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Neha
Hi, thank you so much!

This way seems promising, however I am not sure how to center the bilayer
around z=0. I thought I could use editconf but I might be confused as to how
Gromacs centers its objects. If I put -center 0 0 0 does that mean the
bilayer is centered around z = 0?

Also I thought that trjconv only dealt with trajectory files. What I have
right now is a structure file, a topology file and an map file. After I have
solvated, I will still only have a new structure file, so what would the
trjconv be acting on?

Thank you so much for helping out a newbie!


Hey :)

Just center the bilayer around z=0, solvate and put all molecules in the
box with trjconv. Then add 10 to the PBC Z-component (third number from the
last line in the .gro file).

Cheers,

Tsjerk





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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Neha,

A single structure is like a trajectory with only one frame :p trjconv
works on those as well.
Right, set the center at 0,0,0 and choose the lipids as group for centering.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Neha nshafi...@wesleyan.edu wrote:

 Hi, thank you so much!

 This way seems promising, however I am not sure how to center the bilayer
 around z=0. I thought I could use editconf but I might be confused as to
 how
 Gromacs centers its objects. If I put -center 0 0 0 does that mean the
 bilayer is centered around z = 0?

 Also I thought that trjconv only dealt with trajectory files. What I have
 right now is a structure file, a topology file and an map file. After I
 have
 solvated, I will still only have a new structure file, so what would the
 trjconv be acting on?

 Thank you so much for helping out a newbie!


 Hey :)

 Just center the bilayer around z=0, solvate and put all molecules in the
 box with trjconv. Then add 10 to the PBC Z-component (third number from the
 last line in the .gro file).

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk





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Re: [gmx-users] How to compile/run Gromacs on native Infiniband?

2013-06-03 Thread Szilárd Páll
There's no ibverbs support, s o pick your favorite/best MPI
implementation, more than that you can't do.
--
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On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Bert bert.u...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 My cluster has a FDR (56 Gb/s) Infiniband network. It is well known that
 there is a big difference between using IPoIB (IP over IB) with a normal
 sockets application and using native InfiniBand with an application that
 has been coded directly to the native IB verbs interface. The latter one
 gets much higher throughput and lower latency, while spending less CPU on
 networking.

 Therefore, I wonder if Gromacs has the native IB verbs interface. If so,
 how to compile and run Gromacs on native Infiniband? Any suggestions will
 be appreciated.

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[gmx-users] Re: Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Neha
Hi Tsjerk,

Thank you so much for being so patient!
I have yet another question. The membrane I got from the Martini website
already has water in it. Do I need to add more water and if so why?

Also how exactly do I use trjconv to put all molecules in the box? Sorry for
being so annoying need a lot of elaboration!


Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote
 Hi Neha,
 
 A single structure is like a trajectory with only one frame :p trjconv
 works on those as well.
 Right, set the center at 0,0,0 and choose the lipids as group for
 centering.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tsjerk
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Neha lt;

 nshafique@

 gt; wrote:
 
 Hi, thank you so much!

 This way seems promising, however I am not sure how to center the bilayer
 around z=0. I thought I could use editconf but I might be confused as to
 how
 Gromacs centers its objects. If I put -center 0 0 0 does that mean the
 bilayer is centered around z = 0?

 Also I thought that trjconv only dealt with trajectory files. What I have
 right now is a structure file, a topology file and an map file. After I
 have
 solvated, I will still only have a new structure file, so what would the
 trjconv be acting on?

 Thank you so much for helping out a newbie!


 Hey :)

 Just center the bilayer around z=0, solvate and put all molecules in the
 box with trjconv. Then add 10 to the PBC Z-component (third number from
 the
 last line in the .gro file).

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk





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Re: [gmx-users] CG angle distribution

2013-06-03 Thread Djurre de Jong-Bruinink
In my experience parametrizing with the Martini forcefield that works fine. You 
might have to do it in a iterative manner though, since non-bonded (VDW) 
iteractions might shift the equilibrium with respect to the value you set 
(unless you exclude all the problematic non-bonded interactions, of course.)

Djurre





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Subject: [gmx-users] CG angle distribution
 

Dear Gmx Users,

I am building coarse-grained model for my protein. I group them int0 5-10
atoms. I wish to reproduce atomistic equilibrium angles as well as the
spring constant.
Shall I use g_angle -od option and calulate distributions? Then I will use
equilibrium th0 as the centre of the gaussian distribution and adjust
spring constant to match this curve?
Please, advise.

Steven
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Creating a monolayer from Martini bilayer

2013-06-03 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Neha,

You can use trjconv with option -pbc mol to put all molecules in the box.
If you want a vacuum, you probably don't want to add more water. But just
play with it and see what comes out. CG simulations are fast enough for
that kind of trial-and-error.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Neha nshafi...@wesleyan.edu wrote:

 Hi Tsjerk,

 Thank you so much for being so patient!
 I have yet another question. The membrane I got from the Martini website
 already has water in it. Do I need to add more water and if so why?

 Also how exactly do I use trjconv to put all molecules in the box? Sorry
 for
 being so annoying need a lot of elaboration!


 Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote
  Hi Neha,
 
  A single structure is like a trajectory with only one frame :p trjconv
  works on those as well.
  Right, set the center at 0,0,0 and choose the lipids as group for
  centering.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Tsjerk
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Neha lt;

  nshafique@

  gt; wrote:
 
  Hi, thank you so much!
 
  This way seems promising, however I am not sure how to center the
 bilayer
  around z=0. I thought I could use editconf but I might be confused as to
  how
  Gromacs centers its objects. If I put -center 0 0 0 does that mean the
  bilayer is centered around z = 0?
 
  Also I thought that trjconv only dealt with trajectory files. What I
 have
  right now is a structure file, a topology file and an map file. After I
  have
  solvated, I will still only have a new structure file, so what would the
  trjconv be acting on?
 
  Thank you so much for helping out a newbie!
 
 
  Hey :)
 
  Just center the bilayer around z=0, solvate and put all molecules in the
  box with trjconv. Then add 10 to the PBC Z-component (third number from
  the
  last line in the .gro file).
 
  Cheers,
 
  Tsjerk
 
 
 
 
 
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[gmx-users] Re: Have your ever got a real NVE simulation (good energy conservation) in gromacs?

2013-06-03 Thread cyberjhon
Hi guys

I am using the set of parameters that I added before and I am getting energy
Conservation

THANKS

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[gmx-users] Specific question regarding SPC water model

2013-06-03 Thread tnorgd
Dear group,

I am not sure how SPC energy actually works - is there really just one VdW
interaction - just between two oxygen atoms?

If so, when I place a hydrogen atom of one water molecule at the location of
the oxygen from another water,
the two oxygens are separated by the distance of H-O bond length i.e. 1.0A.
The only VdW interaction is repulsive but finite (and equal ~4E6) but the
electrostatic between H and O is -Inf = 1/0.0

What's wrong?

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[gmx-users] eletrical filed issue

2013-06-03 Thread Tong Li
Dear Gromacs Developers or Users

I am trying to apply a constant electrical field in Gromacs. I have made a 
charged fullerene in vacuum for testing. A electrical field in x direction is 
applied as:

; Electric field
E-x = 1 2 1

However, the C60 moves only around 0.1 nm in 10 ps and then stops. My whole 
simulation period is 50 ps, in the following 40 ps, the C60 is just donging 
relaxation (likely). The first thing I have done is change the simulation step 
size from 1 fs to 0.5 fs, the simulation result is the same. Then, I have used 
the output conformation for another sequential simulation, then this happens 
again (another 0.1 nm in 10 ps). I also changed the box size to understand the 
surface effect of PBC, the difference is pretty small. The I removed the PBC, 
it didn't change, either.

I have read the manual, it says:

the first number: the number of cosines, only 1 is implemented (with frequency 
0).

However, I didn't quite get this 'frequency 0'. Does this mean there is one 
cosine in one second? Or one cosine in the whole simulation period? Or in one 
simulation time step?

Another thing is I have checked the field output, it is as below. I guess this 
means constant force field, but not quite sure.

Thanks a lot for your help!

 0   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0005   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.001   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0015   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.002   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0025   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.003   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0035   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.004   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0045   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.005   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0055   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.006   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0065   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.007   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0075   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.008   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0085   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.009   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0095   2   0   0 #FIELD
  0.01   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0105   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.011   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0115   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.012   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0125   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.013   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0135   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.014   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0145   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.015   2   0   0 #FIELD
0.0155   2   0   0 #FIELD
 0.016   2   0   0 #FIELD
Tong Li
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[gmx-users] About low PH simulation of DPPC liposomes

2013-06-03 Thread cyberjhon
Hi guys 
I need to simulate DPPC liposomes in low PH environment
I have been looking for literature but I have not found a good option.

Any suggestion?? 

Thanks

John Michael



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[gmx-users] Re: Specific question regarding SPC water model

2013-06-03 Thread Someone Else
Thanks for the answer.

You're introducing atomic overlap and thus an energetic singularity from
the infinite Coulombic attraction.
Is there anything I can do  with this?

I posted this question because I'm trying to run a Monte Carlo simulation
of a water box but eventually it finds the global energy minimum (-Inf) and
can't escape from it.


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 On 6/3/13 7:49 PM, tnorgd wrote:
  Dear group,
 
  I am not sure how SPC energy actually works - is there really just one
 VdW
  interaction - just between two oxygen atoms?
 

 Yep.  A lot of force fields work like that.  Given the size of H atoms
 relative
 to their heavy atom counterparts, the heavy atom to which they are
 connected
 generally governs the vdW interactions.

  If so, when I place a hydrogen atom of one water molecule at the
 location of
  the oxygen from another water,
  the two oxygens are separated by the distance of H-O bond length i.e.
 1.0A.
  The only VdW interaction is repulsive but finite (and equal ~4E6) but
 the
  electrostatic between H and O is -Inf = 1/0.0
 
  What's wrong?
 

 Nothing.  That makes perfect sense.  You're introducing atomic overlap and
 thus
 an energetic singularity from the infinite Coulombic attraction.

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] assembling trajectory files

2013-06-03 Thread Souilem Safa
Dear Gromacs users,
I have simulated my system for two separately 10 ns with continuation
option in order to continue the first 10 ns simulation.
In order to do some analysis , I'm aiming to assemble both trajectory and
tpr files.
I would be very grateful if someone could help me in this issue.
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Re: [gmx-users] assembling trajectory files

2013-06-03 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/3/13 8:54 PM, Souilem Safa wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,
I have simulated my system for two separately 10 ns with continuation
option in order to continue the first 10 ns simulation.
In order to do some analysis , I'm aiming to assemble both trajectory and
tpr files.
I would be very grateful if someone could help me in this issue.



trjcat concatenates trajectories.  There is no need to concatenate .tpr files; 
there are no time-dependent quantities in them so it doesn't make sense to do so.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Specific question regarding SPC water model

2013-06-03 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/3/13 8:12 PM, Someone Else wrote:

Thanks for the answer.


You're introducing atomic overlap and thus an energetic singularity from

the infinite Coulombic attraction.
Is there anything I can do  with this?

I posted this question because I'm trying to run a Monte Carlo simulation
of a water box but eventually it finds the global energy minimum (-Inf) and
can't escape from it.




That sounds like something done outside of Gromacs, is it not?  I would think 
that properly accounting for Coulombic interactions would have prevented this 
from occurring, but I don't do MC so I can't go beyond speculation.


-Justin


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On 6/3/13 7:49 PM, tnorgd wrote:

Dear group,

I am not sure how SPC energy actually works - is there really just one

VdW

interaction - just between two oxygen atoms?



Yep.  A lot of force fields work like that.  Given the size of H atoms
relative
to their heavy atom counterparts, the heavy atom to which they are
connected
generally governs the vdW interactions.


If so, when I place a hydrogen atom of one water molecule at the

location of

the oxygen from another water,
the two oxygens are separated by the distance of H-O bond length i.e.

1.0A.

The only VdW interaction is repulsive but finite (and equal ~4E6) but

the

electrostatic between H and O is -Inf = 1/0.0

What's wrong?



Nothing.  That makes perfect sense.  You're introducing atomic overlap and
thus
an energetic singularity from the infinite Coulombic attraction.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] assembling trajectory files

2013-06-03 Thread Souilem Safa
Dear Justin,
Thank you very much for your quick reply, that is helpful to me



On 4 June 2013 10:05, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 6/3/13 8:54 PM, Souilem Safa wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,
 I have simulated my system for two separately 10 ns with continuation
 option in order to continue the first 10 ns simulation.
 In order to do some analysis , I'm aiming to assemble both trajectory and
 tpr files.
 I would be very grateful if someone could help me in this issue.


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 sense to do so.

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[gmx-users] About Concatenation of several trajectory files

2013-06-03 Thread vidhya sankar
Dear Justin, Mark  other gromacs users Thank you fro your previuos replies
  

  I need to concatenate several .trr , .xtc 
and .edr files . Is there is any gromacs tools availble ? or  Is it enough to 
use cat command  in Linux 

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Re: [gmx-users] About Concatenation of several trajectory files

2013-06-03 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/3/13 10:15 PM, vidhya sankar wrote:

Dear Justin, Mark  other gromacs users Thank you fro your previuos replies


   I need to concatenate several .trr , .xtc and .edr 
files . Is there is any gromacs tools availble ? or  Is it enough to use cat 
command  in Linux



trjcat for .xtc and .trr and eneconv for .edr - the manual describes all of 
this.

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[gmx-users] Re: frame

2013-06-03 Thread maggin
hi, Wagner

It works! Thank you very much!

maggin



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