[gmx-users] Fwd: installing Gromacs4.6.3 on cygwin

2013-09-10 Thread shahid nayeem
Dear all
I am installing gromacs -4.6.3 on cygwin with following commands
tar -xvzf gramcs-4.6.3.tar.gz
cd gromacs-4.6.3
mkdir build
cd build
 cmake .. -DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON -DGMX_DOUBLE=on
It runs fine and write file in build directory.
when I run make command it gives following error.

[ 15%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/selection/sm_permute.c.o
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In file included from
/cygdrive/c/packages/gromacs-4.6.3/src/gmxlib/thread_mpi/atomic.c:38:0:
/cygdrive/c/packages/gromacs-4.6.3/src/gmxlib/thread_mpi/impl.h:504:20:
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src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/build.make:3070: recipe for target
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 Please help me to install this version of gromacs on cygwin

Shahid
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[gmx-users] Umbrella sampling simulations using make_edi with -restrain and -harmonic

2013-09-10 Thread Chen, Po-chia
 Hi all,
 I can't seem to find the correct combination of EDI parameters impose a 
harmonically-constrained simulation along an eigenvector in GROMACS 4.6.2, and 
I'd like to confirm that the inputs I have are actually correct. Here is the 
make_edi command I used to generate the .edi file fed to mdrun:

echo C-alpha System | make_edi -restrain -harmonic \
 -f ../ca-evec.trr \
 -eig ../ca-eval.xvg \
 -s ../analysis.tpr \
 -ori ./init.gro \
 -outfrq 2500 -deltaF0 150 -Eflnull 100 -flood 1 \
 -o constrain.edi

 Where the eigenvectors and eigenvalues are previously derived by g_covar for a 
set of unrestrained trajectories. The origin file init.gro is the same as the 
starting coordinates of this constrained run, extracted from a previous EDI run 
to start at an appropriate location on the eigenvector space.

 The 1st eigenvalue is ~ 66, and the eigenvector looked fine in VMD when 
plotted by g_anaeig -extr.

 So mdrun -ei constrain.edi runs normally, but the flooding potential drops to 
zero so the protein diffuses freely along the 1st eigenvector. e.g. the 
first/last line in edsam.xvg looks like:
# time RMSD EV1projFLOOD EV1-Ef1  EV1-Vf1 EV1-deltaF
  0.0   0.43   9.99   -9.4e+1 9.5e-8  3.8e-9  -5.3e-4
 10.0  0.40   9.49  0.0   -0.0  1.6e-44-0.0
 ...
  1.00 0.94  -2.2 0.0 -0.0 1.6e-44-0.0

 When c(0) is supposed to be according 9.99 as I set init.gro to be the -ori. 
Do I need to change -alpha as well? What parameters am I missing/added by 
mistake? The manual gives no indication as to which ones to do.

 = = =
 P.S. the relevant constrain.edi lines contain:
...
#DELTA_F0
150.00
#INIT_DELTA_F
0.0
#TAU
0.10
#EFL_NULL
-100.00
#ALPHA2
-1.0
#KT
2.50
#HARMONIC
1
#CONST_FORCE_FLOODING
0
...
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Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella sampling simulations using make_edi with -restrain and -harmonic

2013-09-10 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Hi Po-chia,

On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Chen, Po-chia pc...@gwdg.de wrote:

 Hi all,
 I can't seem to find the correct combination of EDI parameters impose a 
 harmonically-constrained simulation along an eigenvector in GROMACS 4.6.2, 
 and I'd like to confirm that the inputs I have are actually correct. Here is 
 the make_edi command I used to generate the .edi file fed to mdrun:
 
 echo C-alpha System | make_edi -restrain -harmonic \
 -f ../ca-evec.trr \
 -eig ../ca-eval.xvg \
 -s ../analysis.tpr \
 -ori ./init.gro \
 -outfrq 2500 -deltaF0 150 -Eflnull 100 -flood 1 \
 -o constrain.edi
I think you should add -tau 0 when using flooding as harmonic restraint
(since you do not want the flooding potential to change).

 Where the eigenvectors and eigenvalues are previously derived by g_covar for 
 a set of unrestrained trajectories. The origin file init.gro is the same as 
 the starting coordinates of this constrained run, extracted from a previous 
 EDI run to start at an appropriate location on the eigenvector space.
 
 The 1st eigenvalue is ~ 66, and the eigenvector looked fine in VMD when 
 plotted by g_anaeig -extr.
 
 So mdrun -ei constrain.edi runs normally, but the flooding potential drops to 
 zero so the protein diffuses freely along the 1st eigenvector. e.g. the 
 first/last line in edsam.xvg looks like:
 # time RMSD EV1projFLOOD EV1-Ef1  EV1-Vf1 EV1-deltaF
  0.0   0.43   9.99   -9.4e+1 9.5e-8  3.8e-9  -5.3e-4
 10.0  0.40   9.49  0.0   -0.0  1.6e-44-0.0
 ...
  1.00 0.94  -2.2 0.0 -0.0 1.6e-44-0.0
 
 When c(0) is supposed to be according 9.99 as I set init.gro to be the -ori. 
 Do I need to change -alpha as well? What parameters am I missing/added by 
 mistake? The manual gives no indication as to which ones to do.
Can you check whether make_edi -ori wrote the correct position on the 1st 
eigenvector in your
.edi file? Scroll down to a line called

# NUMBER OF EIGENVECTORS + COMPONENTS GROUP 7

(Group 7 means the flooding vectors), if you have a single flooding vector, the 
next
line should read 1 and in the following line you will find three entries that 
describe

nr spring constant reference projection ref. proj. change per time step

which I guess read in your case 
 1   19.99   no 4th entry

so the reference projection should be 9.99, as calculated from your .ori 
structure.
If there is no 3rd entry, you can simply put it there manually (and leave away
the -ori option to make_edi).

Best,
  Carsten
 

 
 = = =
 P.S. the relevant constrain.edi lines contain:
 ...
 #DELTA_F0
 150.00
 #INIT_DELTA_F
 0.0
 #TAU
 0.10
 #EFL_NULL
 -100.00
 #ALPHA2
 -1.0
 #KT
 2.50
 #HARMONIC
 1
 #CONST_FORCE_FLOODING
 0
 ...
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[gmx-users] Adding ligand structure information obtained from ATB into the pdb2gmx gro file (obtained using GROMACS)

2013-09-10 Thread MUSYOKA THOMMAS
Dear Users,
I am using the ATB web server to build topologies of my ligands.
I have tried to include the ligand UNITED ATOM STRUCTURE (generated by the
ATB) into my protein gro file generated by GROMACS by copying the
information in the lines starting with HETAM to the end of my protein gro
file and updating the number of molecules at the beginning of the file so
as to reflect the change.

However, i am getting an error when i run the editconf command = Fatal
error: Something is wrong in the coordinate formatting of file
../2oul_processed.gro. Note that gro is fixed format.

My ligand link is =
http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb/download.py?session=14360

Can anyone tell me how to solve this.

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[gmx-users] xpm2ps

2013-09-10 Thread Neha Gandhi
Hi Gromacs mailing list supporters,

I had previously posted query on xpm2ps.
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2013-April/080729.html

There are 100 frames in the simulations. I tried fiddling with the
parameters in the .m2p file such as matrix spacing and X-axis minimum
and maximum tick spacing however I always get black lines at the
bottom instead of X-axis.

Your input is appreciated.

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Re: [gmx-users] Adding ligand structure information obtained from ATB into the pdb2gmx gro file (obtained using GROMACS)

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Abraham
You cannot mix the .gro and .pdb formats within the same file. One
approach is to direct the GROMACS tool to write the output in pdb
format simply by naming the output file with a .pdb suffix. Then you
can do such a pasting operation, and if you've preserved the format
correctly, proceed to use the resulting file in future GROMACS stages.

Mark

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM, MUSYOKA THOMMAS
mutemibiochemis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Users,
 I am using the ATB web server to build topologies of my ligands.
 I have tried to include the ligand UNITED ATOM STRUCTURE (generated by the
 ATB) into my protein gro file generated by GROMACS by copying the
 information in the lines starting with HETAM to the end of my protein gro
 file and updating the number of molecules at the beginning of the file so
 as to reflect the change.

 However, i am getting an error when i run the editconf command = Fatal
 error: Something is wrong in the coordinate formatting of file
 ../2oul_processed.gro. Note that gro is fixed format.

 My ligand link is =
 http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb/download.py?session=14360

 Can anyone tell me how to solve this.

 Thank you
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Re: [gmx-users] xpm2ps

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 5:30 AM, Neha Gandhi wrote:

Hi Gromacs mailing list supporters,

I had previously posted query on xpm2ps.
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2013-April/080729.html

There are 100 frames in the simulations. I tried fiddling with the
parameters in the .m2p file such as matrix spacing and X-axis minimum
and maximum tick spacing however I always get black lines at the
bottom instead of X-axis.



An image of what you're dealing with would be useful, as would the full contents 
of the .m2p file you're using.  Without that, there's not much anyone can do to 
help, aside from generically saying to increase the value of xtick.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Adding ligand structure information obtained from ATB into the pdb2gmx gro file (obtained using GROMACS)

2013-09-10 Thread MUSYOKA THOMMAS
Thanks Mark,
I am now set and rolling down.
Cheers.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 You cannot mix the .gro and .pdb formats within the same file. One
 approach is to direct the GROMACS tool to write the output in pdb
 format simply by naming the output file with a .pdb suffix. Then you
 can do such a pasting operation, and if you've preserved the format
 correctly, proceed to use the resulting file in future GROMACS stages.

 Mark

 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM, MUSYOKA THOMMAS
 mutemibiochemis...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Users,
  I am using the ATB web server to build topologies of my ligands.
  I have tried to include the ligand UNITED ATOM STRUCTURE (generated by
 the
  ATB) into my protein gro file generated by GROMACS by copying the
  information in the lines starting with HETAM to the end of my protein gro
  file and updating the number of molecules at the beginning of the file so
  as to reflect the change.
 
  However, i am getting an error when i run the editconf command = Fatal
  error: Something is wrong in the coordinate formatting of file
  ../2oul_processed.gro. Note that gro is fixed format.
 
  My ligand link is =
  http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb/download.py?session=14360
 
  Can anyone tell me how to solve this.
 
  Thank you
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Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] xpm2ps

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 6:43 AM, Neha Gandhi wrote:

Hi Justin,

I am sorry to forward the files to your id but gromacs mailing list
wouldn't allow attachments.



Regardless, please keep the discussion on the list.  An .m2p file is small 
enough that it can be copied and pasted into an email.  Everything else should 
be posted online such that you can provide a URL to download other files.


The image simply appears stretched, so the solution is to increase the ratio of 
ybox/xbox, by decreasing xbox by a few orders of magnitude and/or increasing 
ybox.  Keep in mind that if you have a million frames and even a few hundred 
residues along the y-axis, your x-axis is still 10^4 units larger!  The current 
ratio established by


xbox = 0.1  ; x-size of a matrix element
ybox = 5; y-size of a matrix element

is only 50, so you naturally see a very stretched and unintelligible plot.

-Justin


Many thanks,
Neha


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From: Neha Gandhi n.gandh...@gmail.com
Date: 10 September 2013 18:35
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] xpm2ps
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org


I am attaching the files for your reference.

On 10 September 2013 17:57, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



On 9/10/13 5:30 AM, Neha Gandhi wrote:


Hi Gromacs mailing list supporters,

I had previously posted query on xpm2ps.
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2013-April/080729.html

There are 100 frames in the simulations. I tried fiddling with the
parameters in the .m2p file such as matrix spacing and X-axis minimum
and maximum tick spacing however I always get black lines at the
bottom instead of X-axis.



An image of what you're dealing with would be useful, as would the full
contents of the .m2p file you're using.  Without that, there's not much
anyone can do to help, aside from generically saying to increase the value
of xtick.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Rama Krishna Koppisetti
Hi Justin,

This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
what to do for these type of errors.

ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


--Rama


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

 Hi Justin,

 I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to include
 128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


 No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered in the
 coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force field
 level.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

Hi Justin,

This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
what to do for these type of errors.



They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're using 
parameters that don't exist in the force field.


-Justin


ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:
   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


--Rama


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:


Hi Justin,

I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to include
128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.



No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered in the
coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force field
level.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Rama Krishna Koppisetti
Hi Justin,

It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look to
overcome this errors.

Thanks
--Rama


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

 Hi Justin,

 This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
 what to do for these type of errors.


 They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're using
 parameters that don't exist in the force field.

 -Justin

  ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 --Rama


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,

 I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
 include
 128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


  No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered in the
 coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force field
 level.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 9:33 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

Hi Justin,

It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look to
overcome this errors.



Go to the line number in the .top indicated in the error message and determine 
the atom types.  This will tell you the sequence of atom types involved in the 
R-B dihedral that is missing.  In theory, you would then add missing parameters 
to ffbonded.itp, if they exist.


-Justin


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:


Hi Justin,

This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
what to do for these type of errors.



They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're using
parameters that don't exist in the force field.

-Justin

  ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:

No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


--Rama


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,


I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
include
128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


  No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered in the

coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force field
level.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: installing Gromacs4.6.3 on cygwin

2013-09-10 Thread Mirco Wahab

On 10.09.2013 08:20, shahid nayeem wrote:

I am installing gromacs -4.6.3 on cygwin with following commands
tar -xvzf gramcs-4.6.3.tar.gz
cd gromacs-4.6.3
mkdir build
cd build
  cmake .. -DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON -DGMX_DOUBLE=on
It runs fine and write file in build directory.
when I run make command it gives following error.
...
/cygdrive/c/packages/gromacs-4.6.3/src/gmxlib/thread_mpi/impl.h:504:20:
error: field ‘timer_init’ has incomplete type
  struct timeval timer_init;
 ^
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/build.make:3070: recipe for target


The Gromacs-file gmxlib/thread_mpi/impl.h is missing the
correct #define for the unixish Cygwin pseudo-os. You can
add it by inserting

 #define HAVE_SYS_TIME_H

at the very top of the file gmxlib/thread_mpi/impl.h

Then the package will probably compile and link, but
mdrun's thread-mpi (tMPI) will not work on Cygwin
(didn't work last time I tried).

So you could do the following: 1) install the Gromacs
package with normal compilation, and 2) build and
install the openmpi-version of mdrun (mdrun_mpi).

(1) cmake-options for package:
...
  -DGMX_GPU=OFF \
  -DGMX_PREFER_STATIC_LIBS=ON   \
...

make -j4 install

(delete all files from the build path)

(2) cmake options for mdrun_mpi
...
  -DGMX_GPU=OFF\
  -DGMX_MPI=ON \
  -DGMX_PREFER_STATIC_LIBS=ON  \
...

make -j4 install-mdrun

The openmpi-version (mdrun_mpi) runs reasonable on
Cygwin/64 1.7.25, but not as fast as the native
windows version (compiled with visual studio 10 or 12).
The windows-compiled version of 4.6.3 is very robust and
allows to link mdrun against CUDA 5.0 (but not 5.5(+VC12)
for unknown reasons). Then, you'll have full gpu support
under windows.

Regards

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega
Adding parameters can be a little bit of a pain, you could instead change
the atom types in the molecule parameter, to ones that have defined angles
and bond types with each other. Of course, you would need to make sure that
you dont assign sp2 with sp3 atoms, or aromatic with non aromatic etc.
Check out ffbonded in the appropriate forcefield folder to see which
atomtypes have defined bond types. Check out atomtypes.atp to see all the
atom types for the forcefield


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 9:33 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

 Hi Justin,

 It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look to
 overcome this errors.


 Go to the line number in the .top indicated in the error message and
 determine the atom types.  This will tell you the sequence of atom types
 involved in the R-B dihedral that is missing.  In theory, you would then
 add missing parameters to ffbonded.itp, if they exist.

 -Justin


  On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,

 This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
 what to do for these type of errors.


  They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're
 using
 parameters that don't exist in the force field.

 -Justin

   ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:

 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 --Rama


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

   Hi Justin,


 I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
 include
 128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


   No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered in
 the

 coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force
 field
 level.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 1:28 PM, Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega wrote:

Adding parameters can be a little bit of a pain, you could instead change
the atom types in the molecule parameter, to ones that have defined angles
and bond types with each other. Of course, you would need to make sure that
you dont assign sp2 with sp3 atoms, or aromatic with non aromatic etc.
Check out ffbonded in the appropriate forcefield folder to see which
atomtypes have defined bond types. Check out atomtypes.atp to see all the
atom types for the forcefield



Given that at present the issue involves only protein and lipids, the approach 
of swapping around atom types is very dangerous, probably more so than assigning 
bonded parameters by analogy.  I don't recall the OP ever telling us what the 
force field is, though, so it's hard to know all of what we're dealing with here.


-Justin



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/10/13 9:33 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:


Hi Justin,

It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look to
overcome this errors.



Go to the line number in the .top indicated in the error message and
determine the atom types.  This will tell you the sequence of atom types
involved in the R-B dihedral that is missing.  In theory, you would then
add missing parameters to ffbonded.itp, if they exist.

-Justin


  On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:





On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,


This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
what to do for these type of errors.


  They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're

using
parameters that don't exist in the force field.

-Justin

   ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:


 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
 No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


--Rama


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

   Hi Justin,



I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
include
128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


   No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered in
the


coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force
field
level.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Freeze + NPT + constraints

2013-09-10 Thread HANNIBAL LECTER
Hi,

Sorry to bother you again regarding this. But I am not sure, as to why
freeze + constraints should not work during a NPT simulation?

The update algorithm as shown in the manual does not say anything that
would fundamentally prevent this. In fact, one can use freezegroups +
constraints in NVT. What prevents it from running in NPT?

I get the foll. error.

step 0
Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
...
...
...
Segmentation fault
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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 3:55 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

Hi Justin,

There is no errors in dihedral but I got 4 warnings in ffbonded.itp. Is
there any suggestions from you.



You've constructed the force field such that you have repeating entries that 
override parameters.  You still haven't said what force field you are using or 
how you constructed it, though it appears you are probably using some version of 
Berger parameters, if the atom types are any indication.


-Justin


WARNING 1 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2817]:
   Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
   Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

   old: 180 5.86 1 180 5.86 1
   new: LNL   LH2   LC2   LOS1  0.00 8.623


WARNING 2 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2820]:
   Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
   Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

   old: 0 5.09 2 0 5.09 2
   new: LC2   LOSLP   LOS1  0.00 3.193


WARNING 3 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2821]:
   Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
   Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

   old: 0 3.19 3 0 3.19 3
   new: LOSLP   LOS   LC21  0.00 5.092


WARNING 4 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2822]:
   Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
   Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

   old: 0 5.09 2 0 5.09 2
   new: LOSLP   LOS   LC21  0.00 3.193


Thanks
--Rama



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/10/13 1:28 PM, Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega wrote:


Adding parameters can be a little bit of a pain, you could instead change
the atom types in the molecule parameter, to ones that have defined angles
and bond types with each other. Of course, you would need to make sure
that
you dont assign sp2 with sp3 atoms, or aromatic with non aromatic etc.
Check out ffbonded in the appropriate forcefield folder to see which
atomtypes have defined bond types. Check out atomtypes.atp to see all the
atom types for the forcefield



Given that at present the issue involves only protein and lipids, the
approach of swapping around atom types is very dangerous, probably more so
than assigning bonded parameters by analogy.  I don't recall the OP ever
telling us what the force field is, though, so it's hard to know all of
what we're dealing with here.


-Justin



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/10/13 9:33 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,


It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look
to
overcome this errors.


  Go to the line number in the .top indicated in the error message and

determine the atom types.  This will tell you the sequence of atom types
involved in the R-B dihedral that is missing.  In theory, you would then
add missing parameters to ffbonded.itp, if they exist.

-Justin


   On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:






On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

   Hi Justin,



This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
what to do for these type of errors.


   They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're


using
parameters that don't exist in the force field.

-Justin

ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:

   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types



ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


--Rama


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:



  On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:


Hi Justin,



I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
include
128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered
in
the

  coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force

field
level.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega
How so? If there is an atom type that has a reasonable similarity to the
one that doesnt have the default bondtypes, what makes using that worse
than coming up with entirely new parameters that are not necessarily based
on physical data or quantum calculations? Isnt copying angles and force
constants the same thing?


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 1:28 PM, Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega wrote:

 Adding parameters can be a little bit of a pain, you could instead change
 the atom types in the molecule parameter, to ones that have defined angles
 and bond types with each other. Of course, you would need to make sure
 that
 you dont assign sp2 with sp3 atoms, or aromatic with non aromatic etc.
 Check out ffbonded in the appropriate forcefield folder to see which
 atomtypes have defined bond types. Check out atomtypes.atp to see all the
 atom types for the forcefield


 Given that at present the issue involves only protein and lipids, the
 approach of swapping around atom types is very dangerous, probably more so
 than assigning bonded parameters by analogy.  I don't recall the OP ever
 telling us what the force field is, though, so it's hard to know all of
 what we're dealing with here.

 -Justin


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 9:33 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,

 It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look
 to
 overcome this errors.


  Go to the line number in the .top indicated in the error message and
 determine the atom types.  This will tell you the sequence of atom types
 involved in the R-B dihedral that is missing.  In theory, you would then
 add missing parameters to ffbonded.itp, if they exist.

 -Justin


   On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:




 On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

   Hi Justin,


 This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
 what to do for these type of errors.


   They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're

 using
 parameters that don't exist in the force field.

 -Justin

ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:

   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 --Rama


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



  On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

Hi Justin,


 I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
 include
 128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered
 in
 the

  coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force
 field
 level.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Rama Krishna Koppisetti
Hi Justin,

There is no errors in dihedral but I got 4 warnings in ffbonded.itp. Is
there any suggestions from you.

WARNING 1 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2817]:
  Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
  Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

  old: 180 5.86 1 180 5.86 1
  new: LNL   LH2   LC2   LOS1  0.00 8.623


WARNING 2 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2820]:
  Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
  Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

  old: 0 5.09 2 0 5.09 2
  new: LC2   LOSLP   LOS1  0.00 3.193


WARNING 3 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2821]:
  Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
  Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

  old: 0 3.19 3 0 3.19 3
  new: LOSLP   LOS   LC21  0.00 5.092


WARNING 4 [file ffbonded.itp, line 2822]:
  Overriding Proper Dih. parameters.
  Use dihedraltype 4 to allow several multiplicity terms.

  old: 0 5.09 2 0 5.09 2
  new: LOSLP   LOS   LC21  0.00 3.193


Thanks
--Rama



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 1:28 PM, Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega wrote:

 Adding parameters can be a little bit of a pain, you could instead change
 the atom types in the molecule parameter, to ones that have defined angles
 and bond types with each other. Of course, you would need to make sure
 that
 you dont assign sp2 with sp3 atoms, or aromatic with non aromatic etc.
 Check out ffbonded in the appropriate forcefield folder to see which
 atomtypes have defined bond types. Check out atomtypes.atp to see all the
 atom types for the forcefield


 Given that at present the issue involves only protein and lipids, the
 approach of swapping around atom types is very dangerous, probably more so
 than assigning bonded parameters by analogy.  I don't recall the OP ever
 telling us what the force field is, though, so it's hard to know all of
 what we're dealing with here.


 -Justin


 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 9:33 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,

 It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look
 to
 overcome this errors.


  Go to the line number in the .top indicated in the error message and
 determine the atom types.  This will tell you the sequence of atom types
 involved in the R-B dihedral that is missing.  In theory, you would then
 add missing parameters to ffbonded.itp, if they exist.

 -Justin


   On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:




 On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

   Hi Justin,


 This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
 what to do for these type of errors.


   They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're

 using
 parameters that don't exist in the force field.

 -Justin

ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:

   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


 --Rama


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:



  On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

Hi Justin,


 I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
 include
 128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered
 in
 the

  coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force
 field
 level.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 3:54 PM, Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega wrote:

How so? If there is an atom type that has a reasonable similarity to the
one that doesnt have the default bondtypes, what makes using that worse
than coming up with entirely new parameters that are not necessarily based
on physical data or quantum calculations? Isnt copying angles and force
constants the same thing?



I never suggested that one should make up parameters that aren't based on 
anything.  The nonbonded parameters of any force field are highly tuned for 
internal consistency, so I was alarmed at the suggestion of simply replacing 
atom types.  Doing so can very easily perturb the model physics in unpredictable 
ways.


Perhaps I should have stated more clearly from the beginning - I never meant to 
imply that anyone should simply add parameters for a missing interaction. 
They must be properly derived.  I do maintain (having seen the negative 
consequences myself from others' struggles and failed attempts) that replacing 
atom types for mere convenience leads to very bad outcomes, probably just as bad 
as poorly concocted bonded parameters, if not worse.


It should also be noted that the nonbonded parameters affect torsions, so all of 
these terms are, in reality, interrelated.  I suspect that the underlying issue 
here has been a poorly constructed force field, not parameters that are actually 
missing from the model.


-Justin



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/10/13 1:28 PM, Rafael I. Silverman y de la Vega wrote:


Adding parameters can be a little bit of a pain, you could instead change
the atom types in the molecule parameter, to ones that have defined angles
and bond types with each other. Of course, you would need to make sure
that
you dont assign sp2 with sp3 atoms, or aromatic with non aromatic etc.
Check out ffbonded in the appropriate forcefield folder to see which
atomtypes have defined bond types. Check out atomtypes.atp to see all the
atom types for the forcefield



Given that at present the issue involves only protein and lipids, the
approach of swapping around atom types is very dangerous, probably more so
than assigning bonded parameters by analogy.  I don't recall the OP ever
telling us what the force field is, though, so it's hard to know all of
what we're dealing with here.

-Justin



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/10/13 9:33 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

  Hi Justin,


It is which part in the force field. Exactly which file I have to look
to
overcome this errors.


  Go to the line number in the .top indicated in the error message and

determine the atom types.  This will tell you the sequence of atom types
involved in the R-B dihedral that is missing.  In theory, you would then
add missing parameters to ffbonded.itp, if they exist.

-Justin


   On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:






On 9/10/13 9:21 AM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

   Hi Justin,



This is another type of error while running energy minimization:
what to do for these type of errors.


   They're exactly the same as the dihedral error from before.  You're


using
parameters that don't exist in the force field.

-Justin

ERROR 218 [file topol.top, line 23487]:

   No default Ryckaert-Bell. types



ERROR 219 [file topol.top, line 23499]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 220 [file topol.top, line 23500]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 221 [file topol.top, line 23501]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 222 [file topol.top, line 23502]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 223 [file topol.top, line 23503]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


ERROR 224 [file topol.top, line 23515]:
  No default Ryckaert-Bell. types


--Rama


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
wrote:



  On 9/9/13 6:11 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:


Hi Justin,



I included 1 DMPC molecule parameters in the file should I need to
include
128 molecules parameters in the file .rtp.


No.  Residue definitions are used any time they are encountered
in
the

  coordinate file.  There is no need for such redundancy at the force

field
level.


-Justin

--
==



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Postdoctoral Fellow

Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
School of Pharmacy
Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
University of Maryland, Baltimore
20 Penn St.
Baltimore, MD 21201

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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze + NPT + constraints

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 2:59 PM, HANNIBAL LECTER wrote:

Hi,

Sorry to bother you again regarding this. But I am not sure, as to why
freeze + constraints should not work during a NPT simulation?

The update algorithm as shown in the manual does not say anything that
would fundamentally prevent this. In fact, one can use freezegroups +
constraints in NVT. What prevents it from running in NPT?



The use of a barostat requires that the positions of the atoms can be scaled 
according to the pressure.  Freezing atoms, by definition, makes them immobile 
and thus they cannot be scaled.  Thus, the two algorithms are fundamentally 
incompatible.


-Justin


I get the foll. error.

step 0
Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23 -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
...
...
...
Segmentation fault



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[gmx-users] Re: plans for mdrun features to deprecate in GROMACS 5.0

2013-09-10 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

The near-silence has been deafening, so these issues are regarded as
closed. Anybody wanting a significant deviation from that plan will
find the onus on them to do the work! :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi gmx-users and gmx-developers,

 There are a number of features of GROMACS that we plan to drop for 5.0
 (scheduled for early 2014). We don’t like doing this, but if things
 are broken or cause developers pain, then they will go unless there is
 manpower to support them. We’d like to keep you informed and hear how
 much pain any of this might cause. Some features will be dropped
 entirely, and others are likely to be reduced to explicit support only
 for some cases. Some discussion has already occurred here
 http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/1292.

 Things we plan to drop entirely:
 * particle decomposition (see below)
 * current QM support (this will be dropped, work on a replacement is
 underway, planned for 5.0)
 * writing of pair distance and/or time-averaged pair distance to
 energy files during simulations with position/orientation restraints
 * reaction-field-nec
 * Encad-shift
 * mdrun -ionize
 * GCT
 * mdrun -seppot
 * mdrun -ffscan
 * OpenMM support

 There are several algorithms (e.g. fancy kinds of restraints) that
 have only ever worked with particle decomposition (if they work at
 all...). We plan to support these only in serial.

 Things that will likely only work in serial (ie. single-domain DD):
 * ensemble- and time-averaged distance restraints
 * L-BFGS energy minimization
 * Generalized Born

 In some cases, “in serial” might mean “in parallel (with DD) with an
 extra communication stage that will make it work, but might scale
 poorly.” Or “in parallel but if things diffuse too far, the simulation
 will crash.” If you have working examples of any of the above in
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 works.

 Things that won’t support constraints (because the implementations are
 broken or missing):
 * L-BFGS energy minimization
 * MTTK pressure coupling

 As always, what goes into GROMACS depends on people putting the work
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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze + NPT + constraints

2013-09-10 Thread HANNIBAL LECTER
I would think that too. However, that is not what happens. If you freeze a
group it gets scaled according to the box vectors during a npt simulation.

Hence in order to keep the group (in my case a carbon nano tube) of fixed
diameter i use position restraints. This protocol works fine with with npt
simulations.

Now, i wanted to check if i include the bonded interactions in my topology
and constrain all the bonds things should not matter at all, since the
bonded interactions are redundant in this case. However, that is not the
case and the system crashes. If however the bonds are not constrained,
things work fine.

I know this is a very round about way of getting things done, still i am
curious.
On Sep 10, 2013 4:12 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 2:59 PM, HANNIBAL LECTER wrote:

 Hi,

 Sorry to bother you again regarding this. But I am not sure, as to why
 freeze + constraints should not work during a NPT simulation?

 The update algorithm as shown in the manual does not say anything that
 would fundamentally prevent this. In fact, one can use freezegroups +
 constraints in NVT. What prevents it from running in NPT?


 The use of a barostat requires that the positions of the atoms can be
 scaled according to the pressure.  Freezing atoms, by definition, makes
 them immobile and thus they cannot be scaled.  Thus, the two algorithms are
 fundamentally incompatible.

 -Justin

  I get the foll. error.

 step 0
 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23

 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23

 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23

 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23

 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23

 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23

 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23

 Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 -2.7758e+23
 Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
 Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
 Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
 ...
 ...
 ...
 Segmentation fault


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Re: [gmx-users] Freeze + NPT + constraints

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 5:17 PM, HANNIBAL LECTER wrote:

I would think that too. However, that is not what happens. If you freeze a
group it gets scaled according to the box vectors during a npt simulation.



Are the positions of the atoms actually changing?  If they are, that's a bug. 
It shouldn't happen, and in previous version of Gromacs, I know it didn't.  Can 
you point to the code that is making this happen?



Hence in order to keep the group (in my case a carbon nano tube) of fixed
diameter i use position restraints. This protocol works fine with with npt
simulations.

Now, i wanted to check if i include the bonded interactions in my topology
and constrain all the bonds things should not matter at all, since the
bonded interactions are redundant in this case. However, that is not the
case and the system crashes. If however the bonds are not constrained,
things work fine.

I know this is a very round about way of getting things done, still i am
curious.


Constraints and barostats both try to modify coordinates.  The freezegrps 
mechanism prevents modifications of coordinates, so what you're trying to 
satisfy is a barostat that wants to scale coordinates (you say that is 
accomplished somehow; I would like to see the evidence so the issue can be 
addressed) and a constraint algorithm that wants to satisfy bond lengths.  One 
of those is bound to fail.  I can imagine that if the initial configuration 
perfectly satisfied the constraints, then maybe the run could proceed (because 
freezegrps and constraints wouldn't be fighting one another), but I still can't 
get my head around any way that you could satisfy freezing and a barostat.


In reality, what we should do is make it a fatal error, because truly, frozen 
groups should be used very sparingly and certainly never with NPT.  It just 
doesn't make sense.  I understand what you're trying to accomplish, but the 
underlying theory becomes flawed.


-Justin


On Sep 10, 2013 4:12 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 9/10/13 2:59 PM, HANNIBAL LECTER wrote:


Hi,

Sorry to bother you again regarding this. But I am not sure, as to why
freeze + constraints should not work during a NPT simulation?

The update algorithm as shown in the manual does not say anything that
would fundamentally prevent this. In fact, one can use freezegroups +
constraints in NVT. What prevents it from running in NPT?



The use of a barostat requires that the positions of the atoms can be
scaled according to the pressure.  Freezing atoms, by definition, makes
them immobile and thus they cannot be scaled.  Thus, the two algorithms are
fundamentally incompatible.

-Justin

  I get the foll. error.


step 0
Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23

Step 1  Warning: pressure scaling more than 1%, mu: -2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
-2.7758e+23
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
Warning: Triclinic box is too skewed.
...
...
...
Segmentation fault



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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 4:35 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

H
i Justin,

The force field that I constructed with OPLS + Berger lipids
.
Similar to
your Bilayer tutorial.



Presumably you are following Chris Neale's half-epsilon, double pairlist method 
then?  In any case, you're defining the same interaction multiple times using 
different parameters.  Something has gone wrong somewhere along the way.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Rama Krishna Koppisetti
Hi,

How to convert normal dihedrals   to so-called Ryckaert-Bellemans
potential dihedrals. Is there any script available for that.

Thanks
Rama


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/10/13 4:35 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

 H
 i Justin,

 The force field that I constructed with OPLS + Berger lipids
 .
 Similar to
 your Bilayer tutorial.


 Presumably you are following Chris Neale's half-epsilon, double pairlist
 method then?  In any case, you're defining the same interaction multiple
 times using different parameters.  Something has gone wrong somewhere along
 the way.

 -Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 6:10 PM, Rama Krishna Koppisetti wrote:

Hi,

How to convert normal dihedrals   to so-called Ryckaert-Bellemans
potential dihedrals. Is there any script available for that.



Periodic dihedrals and R-B dihedrals have different functional forms.  See the 
manual.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] average pressure of a system

2013-09-10 Thread Dwey
Hi All.

   I work on a simulation of a membrane protein in a model membrane
(DPPC) with a total of 26,859 atoms.  In a step of NPT equilibration,
my mdp file is used for a 100 ps NPT and it has a reference pressure
of 1 bar.

 At the end of simulation,  I obtained a result of the average
pressure of the system ( ~ -0.90 bar)  like

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure-0.90492.6186.30413.8503  (bar)


I am wondering if  I should keep running this NPT process until the
average pressure of the system reaches ~ 1.0 bar.

If so, how long ( how many steps) ?

Or should I modify mdp file  ? Can anyone provide some suggestions ?


Likewise, at the end of Production MD for 1 ns, I obtained  average
pressure (~2.23 bar)  of the system like

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure2.233492.1 164.9710.9381  (bar)

Should I run a longer simulation until the average pressure reaches ~
1.0 bar,  although average energy, average temperature (323 K),
average density (1022 kg/m^3) are already at  the desired values ?

How should I do to stabilize average pressure  at a desired value (~1 bar) ?


Thanks for any input.
Dwey
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Re: [gmx-users] NMR restrained MD

2013-09-10 Thread Rama Krishna Koppisetti
H
i Justin,

The force field that I constructed with OPLS + Berger lipids
.
Similar to
your Bilayer tutorial.


Thanks

--Rama



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Re: [gmx-users] average pressure of a system

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 9:12 PM, Dwey wrote:

Hi All.

I work on a simulation of a membrane protein in a model membrane
(DPPC) with a total of 26,859 atoms.  In a step of NPT equilibration,
my mdp file is used for a 100 ps NPT and it has a reference pressure
of 1 bar.

  At the end of simulation,  I obtained a result of the average
pressure of the system ( ~ -0.90 bar)  like

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure-0.90492.6186.30413.8503  (bar)


I am wondering if  I should keep running this NPT process until the
average pressure of the system reaches ~ 1.0 bar.

If so, how long ( how many steps) ?

Or should I modify mdp file  ? Can anyone provide some suggestions ?



If you want commentary on your .mdp file, you need to provide the actual .mdp 
file.



Likewise, at the end of Production MD for 1 ns, I obtained  average
pressure (~2.23 bar)  of the system like

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure2.233492.1 164.9710.9381  (bar)

Should I run a longer simulation until the average pressure reaches ~
1.0 bar,  although average energy, average temperature (323 K),
average density (1022 kg/m^3) are already at  the desired values ?

How should I do to stabilize average pressure  at a desired value (~1 bar) ?



None of this looks abnormal to me at all.  This topic is discussed very 
frequently on the list, so please refer to the archive for extensive discussion 
about the theory of pressure calculations and what the output means.  Also have 
a look at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure and ask 
yourself whether 2 ± 165 is significantly different from the target value of 1. 
 Also realize the 1 ns is extremely short for a membrane system, which normally 
take tens of ns to equilibrate.


-Justin

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RE: [gmx-users] average pressure of a system

2013-09-10 Thread Dallas Warren
Part answer is provided at 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure

Have you plotted how the pressure changes with time during your simulation?

What you will notice is that the pressure is oscillating between something like 
+300 bar and -300 bar.  With such large variations like that, is it not 
surprising that the average is not exactly 1?

Catch ya,

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 boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf Of Dwey
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 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] average pressure of a system
 
 Hi All.
 
I work on a simulation of a membrane protein in a model membrane
 (DPPC) with a total of 26,859 atoms.  In a step of NPT equilibration,
 my mdp file is used for a 100 ps NPT and it has a reference pressure
 of 1 bar.
 
  At the end of simulation,  I obtained a result of the average
 pressure of the system ( ~ -0.90 bar)  like
 
 Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
 ---
 
 Pressure-0.90492.6186.30413.8503
 (bar)
 
 
 I am wondering if  I should keep running this NPT process until the
 average pressure of the system reaches ~ 1.0 bar.
 
 If so, how long ( how many steps) ?
 
 Or should I modify mdp file  ? Can anyone provide some suggestions ?
 
 
 Likewise, at the end of Production MD for 1 ns, I obtained  average
 pressure (~2.23 bar)  of the system like
 
 Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
 ---
 
 Pressure2.233492.1 164.9710.9381
 (bar)
 
 Should I run a longer simulation until the average pressure reaches ~
 1.0 bar,  although average energy, average temperature (323 K),
 average density (1022 kg/m^3) are already at  the desired values ?
 
 How should I do to stabilize average pressure  at a desired value (~1
 bar) ?
 
 
 Thanks for any input.
 Dwey
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[gmx-users] RE: average pressure of a system

2013-09-10 Thread Dwey Kauffman
Hi Dallas and Justin,

  Thanks for the reply. Yes, I did plot pressure changes over time by
g_energy and I have been aware of the note  at
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure
  
I am concerned about the average pressure is because our experiment shows
that our target membrane protein is a hexamer and our observation is that
variation of system pressure seems causing hexamer or dimer dissociation.
Also, it is quite sensitive to pressure fluctuation. Such a fluctuation of
pressure certainly brings my attention in this specific case, because life
does not exist at large variations of system pressure.
If not because of multimer dissociation likely caused by pressure
fluctuation, I agree with both of you.

I also run longer simulations like 20 ns and 30 ns

### 20 ns

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure   0.886396   0.84162.6551.38476  (bar)

## 30 ns

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure1.69086   0.58162.8793.35668  (bar)


Running longer simulations seems to me that the improvement of system
pressure is not helpful too much.
If I need to modify mdp file, what it would be ?



Many thanks,

Dwey


My mdp file for NPT  is used in the simulation like 

define  = -DPOSRES  

integrator  = md
nsteps  = 50
dt  = 0.002 

nstxout = 100   
nstvout = 100   
nstenergy   = 100   
nstlog  = 100   

continuation= yes   
constraint_algorithm = lincs
constraints = all-bonds 
lincs_iter  = 1 
lincs_order = 4 

ns_type = grid  
nstlist = 5 
rlist   = 1.2   
rcoulomb= 1.2   
rvdw= 1.2   

coulombtype = PME   
pme_order   = 4 
fourierspacing  = 0.16  

tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover   
tc-grps = Protein DPPC  SOL_CL  
tau_t   = 0.5   0.5 0.5 
ref_t   = 323   323 323 

pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman 
pcoupltype  = semiisotropic 
tau_p   = 5.0   
ref_p   = 1.0   1.0 
compressibility = 4.5e-54.5e-5  

pbc = xyz   

DispCorr= EnerPres  

gen_vel = no


nstcomm = 1
comm-mode   = Linear
comm-grps   = Protein_DPPC SOL_CL

refcoord_scaling = com
cutoff-scheme = Verlet




 



  
  



  



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[gmx-users] ERROR while compiling gromacs4.6.1

2013-09-10 Thread Golshan Hejazi


Hello,

i am trying to compile gromacs-4.6.1 on a linux machine. I used already the 
following compile script and it worked

export CCDIR=/usr/bin/gcc
export MPICCDIR=/usr/mpi/gcc/openmpi-1.4.1/bin
export CXX=mpicxx
export CC=mpicc

cd /home/fbafti/CODE

tar -xvf gromacs-4.6.1.tar.gz
cd mv gromacs-4.6.1 gromacs-4.6.1-plumed/
cd build-gromacs-4.6.1-plumed/

/home/fbafti/CODE/cmake-2.8.11.2-Linux-i386/bin/cmake   
/home/fbafti/CODE/gromacs-4.6.1-plumed \
-DFFTWF_LIBRARY=/home/fbafti/CODE/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.so \
-DFFTW3F_INCLUDE_DIR=/home/fbafti/CODE/fftw-3.3.3/include  \
-DFFTW3F_LIBRARIES=/home/fbafti/CODE/fftw-3.3.3/lib/libfftw3f.a \
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/fbafti/CODE/build-gromacs-4.6.1-plumed \
-DGMX_X11=OFF \
-DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=/usr/mpi/gcc/openmpi-1.4.1/bin/mpicxx \
-DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/usr/mpi/gcc/openmpi-1.4.1/bin/mpicc \
-DGMX_MPI=ON \
-DGMX_PREFER_STATIC_LIBS=ON


However I am trying it now on another machine with the same linux platform and 
I get the following error:

CMake Warning at CMakeLists.txt:727 (message):
  No C SSE4.1 flag found.  Consider a newer compiler, or use SSE2 for
  slightly lower performance


-- Looking for smmintrin.h
-- Looking for smmintrin.h - not found
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:750 (message):
  Cannot find smmintrin.h, which is required for SSE4.1 intrinsics support.


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!

I thought if the gcc path is already defined ... it shouldn't complain !
Can you help me figure out what causes the error?

Many thanks
G.
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Re: [gmx-users] RE: average pressure of a system

2013-09-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/10/13 10:56 PM, Dwey Kauffman wrote:

Hi Dallas and Justin,

   Thanks for the reply. Yes, I did plot pressure changes over time by
g_energy and I have been aware of the note  at
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure

I am concerned about the average pressure is because our experiment shows
that our target membrane protein is a hexamer and our observation is that
variation of system pressure seems causing hexamer or dimer dissociation.
Also, it is quite sensitive to pressure fluctuation. Such a fluctuation of
pressure certainly brings my attention in this specific case, because life
does not exist at large variations of system pressure.


True, but thermostats allow temperatures to oscillate on the order of a few K, 
and that doesn't happen on the macroscopic level either.  Hence the small 
disconnect between a system that has thousands of atoms and one that has 
millions or trillions.  Pressure fluctuations decrease on the order of sqrt(N), 
so the system size itself is a determining factor for the pressure fluctuations. 
 As previous discussions have rightly concluded, pressure is a somewhat 
ill-defined quantity in molecular systems like these.



If not because of multimer dissociation likely caused by pressure
fluctuation, I agree with both of you.

I also run longer simulations like 20 ns and 30 ns

### 20 ns

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure   0.886396   0.84162.6551.38476  (bar)

## 30 ns

Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
---
Pressure1.69086   0.58162.8793.35668  (bar)


Running longer simulations seems to me that the improvement of system
pressure is not helpful too much.


And yet neither is statistically indistinguishable from the value of 1, given 
that the standard deviations are ~163 bar.



If I need to modify mdp file, what it would be ?



You could try altering tau_p, but I doubt there is any value in doing so.

-Justin




Many thanks,

Dwey


My mdp file for NPT  is used in the simulation like

define  = -DPOSRES

integrator  = md
nsteps  = 50
dt  = 0.002

nstxout = 100
nstvout = 100
nstenergy   = 100
nstlog  = 100

continuation= yes
constraint_algorithm = lincs
constraints = all-bonds
lincs_iter  = 1
lincs_order = 4

ns_type = grid
nstlist = 5
rlist   = 1.2
rcoulomb= 1.2
rvdw= 1.2

coulombtype = PME
pme_order   = 4
fourierspacing  = 0.16

tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover
tc-grps = Protein DPPC  SOL_CL
tau_t   = 0.5   0.5 0.5
ref_t   = 323   323 323

pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman
pcoupltype  = semiisotropic
tau_p   = 5.0
ref_p   = 1.0   1.0
compressibility = 4.5e-54.5e-5

pbc = xyz

DispCorr= EnerPres

gen_vel = no


nstcomm = 1
comm-mode   = Linear
comm-grps   = Protein_DPPC SOL_CL

refcoord_scaling = com
cutoff-scheme = Verlet

















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RE: [gmx-users] RE: average pressure of a system

2013-09-10 Thread Dallas Warren
Also remember that here you are dealing with the measurement of a macroscopic 
property on a microscopic scale.

As Justin has alluded to, the only manner in which you can make the variation / 
fluctuations in the pressure smaller is by increase the total number of 
particles in the system.

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
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 -Original Message-
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
 boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf Of Dwey Kauffman
 Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013 12:57 PM
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] RE: average pressure of a system
 
 Hi Dallas and Justin,
 
   Thanks for the reply. Yes, I did plot pressure changes over time by
 g_energy and I have been aware of the note  at
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure
 
 I am concerned about the average pressure is because our experiment
 shows
 that our target membrane protein is a hexamer and our observation is
 that
 variation of system pressure seems causing hexamer or dimer
 dissociation.
 Also, it is quite sensitive to pressure fluctuation. Such a fluctuation
 of
 pressure certainly brings my attention in this specific case, because
 life
 does not exist at large variations of system pressure.
 If not because of multimer dissociation likely caused by pressure
 fluctuation, I agree with both of you.
 
 I also run longer simulations like 20 ns and 30 ns
 
 ### 20 ns
 
 Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
 ---
 
 Pressure   0.886396   0.84162.6551.38476
 (bar)
 
 ## 30 ns
 
 Energy  Average   Err.Est.   RMSD  Tot-Drift
 ---
 
 Pressure1.69086   0.58162.8793.35668
 (bar)
 
 
 Running longer simulations seems to me that the improvement of system
 pressure is not helpful too much.
 If I need to modify mdp file, what it would be ?
 
 
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Dwey
 
 
 My mdp file for NPT  is used in the simulation like
 
 define  = -DPOSRES
 
 integrator  = md
 nsteps  = 50
 dt  = 0.002
 
 nstxout = 100
 nstvout = 100
 nstenergy   = 100
 nstlog  = 100
 
 continuation= yes
 constraint_algorithm = lincs
 constraints = all-bonds
 lincs_iter  = 1
 lincs_order = 4
 
 ns_type = grid
 nstlist = 5
 rlist   = 1.2
 rcoulomb= 1.2
 rvdw= 1.2
 
 coulombtype = PME
 pme_order   = 4
 fourierspacing  = 0.16
 
 tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover
 tc-grps = Protein DPPC  SOL_CL
 tau_t   = 0.5   0.5 0.5
 ref_t   = 323   323 323
 
 pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman
 pcoupltype  = semiisotropic
 tau_p   = 5.0
 ref_p   = 1.0   1.0
 compressibility = 4.5e-54.5e-5
 
 pbc = xyz
 
 DispCorr= EnerPres
 
 gen_vel = no
 
 
 nstcomm = 1
 comm-mode   = Linear
 comm-grps   = Protein_DPPC SOL_CL
 
 refcoord_scaling = com
 cutoff-scheme = Verlet
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[gmx-users] RE: average pressure of a system

2013-09-10 Thread Dwey Kauffman
True, but thermostats allow temperatures to oscillate on the order of a few
K, 
and that doesn't happen on the macroscopic level either.  Hence the small 
disconnect between a system that has thousands of atoms and one that has 
millions or trillions.  Pressure fluctuations decrease on the order of
sqrt(N), 
so the system size itself is a determining factor for the pressure
fluctuations. 
  As previous discussions have rightly concluded, pressure is a somewhat 
ill-defined quantity in molecular systems like these.

Dose it also imply that it is not a good idea to study the relationship
between dimer (multimer) dissociation and  macroscopic pressure in this case
?  (due to the ill defined pressure).

It is hard to be justified if I assign a set of various ref_p= 0.7, 0.8,
0.9, 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 , perform independent simulations, and then obtain
outcomes of targeted quantities for comparison.  


You could try altering tau_p, but I doubt there is any value in doing so.

I would give it a try.

Thanks for the hint.

Dwey


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[gmx-users] Error in Installing gromacs4.6.3 with mpi

2013-09-10 Thread Qin Qiao
Dear all,

I'm trying to install gromacs4.6.3 with mvapich2-1.9a on a local cluster
and got the following error in step 'make':

/usr/bin/ld:
/usr/local/mvapich2-1.9a-gcc/lib/libmpich.a(mvapich_malloc.o): relocation
R_X86_64_32 against `.bss' can not be used when making a shared object;
recompile with -fPIC
/usr/local/mvapich2-1.9a-gcc/lib/libmpich.a: could not read symbols: Bad
value


I was using command
cmake ../  -DGMX_MPI=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/.../gromacs-4.6.3/
-DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON -BUILD_SHARED_LIBS='no'

and I thought the mvapich is compiled with --enable-shared...

Could you give me some advice if possible? Thanks in advance.

Best

Qin
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Re: [gmx-users] Fwd: installing Gromacs4.6.3 on cygwin

2013-09-10 Thread shahid nayeem
Thanks Wahab
I followed your instruction and added  #define HAVE_SYS_TIME_H

at the very top of the file gmxlib/thread_mpi/impl.h.
Then again in make command I got following errors.
[ 53%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwCSTab_GeomP1P1_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 53%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwCSTab_GeomW3P1_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 53%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwCSTab_GeomW3W3_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 53%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwCSTab_GeomW4P1_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 53%] Building C object
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[ 55%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwLJ_GeomP1P1_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 55%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwLJ_GeomW3P1_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 55%] Building C object
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[ 55%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwLJ_GeomW4P1_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 55%] Building C object
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[ 55%] Building C object
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[ 55%] Building C object
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[ 55%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwNone_GeomW3W3_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 56%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwNone_GeomW4P1_avx_256_double.c.o
[ 56%] Building C object
src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/nonbonded/nb_kernel_avx_256_double/nb_kernel_ElecRF_VdwNone_GeomW4W4_avx_256_double.c.o
make[2]: *** No rule to make target
`//cygdrive/c/packages/gromacs-4.6.3/build/src/contrib/fftw/gmxfftw-prefix/lib/libfftw3.a',
needed by `src/gmxlib/cyggmx_d-8.dll'.  Stop.
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:1238: recipe for target
`src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/all] Error 2
Makefile:146: recipe for target `all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2

Please help me to compile gromacs 4.6.3 on cygwin

Shahid Nayeem


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Mirco Wahab 
mirco.wa...@chemie.tu-freiberg.de wrote:

 On 10.09.2013 08:20, shahid nayeem wrote:

 I am installing gromacs -4.6.3 on cygwin with following commands
 tar -xvzf gramcs-4.6.3.tar.gz
 cd gromacs-4.6.3
 mkdir build
 cd build
   cmake .. -DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON -DGMX_DOUBLE=on
 It runs fine and write file in build directory.
 when I run make command it gives following error.
 ...

 /cygdrive/c/packages/gromacs-**4.6.3/src/gmxlib/thread_mpi/**
 impl.h:504:20:
 error: field ‘timer_init’ has incomplete type
   struct timeval timer_init;
  ^
 src/gmxlib/CMakeFiles/gmx.dir/**build.make:3070: recipe for target


 The Gromacs-file gmxlib/thread_mpi/impl.h is missing the
 correct #define for the unixish Cygwin pseudo-os. You can
 add it by inserting

  #define HAVE_SYS_TIME_H

 at the very top of the file gmxlib/thread_mpi/impl.h

 Then the package will probably compile and link, but
 mdrun's thread-mpi (tMPI) will not work on Cygwin
 (didn't work last time I tried).

 So you could do the following: 1) install the Gromacs
 package with normal compilation, and 2) build and
 install the openmpi-version of mdrun (mdrun_mpi).

 (1) cmake-options for package:
 ...
   -DGMX_GPU=OFF \
   -DGMX_PREFER_STATIC_LIBS=ON   \
 ...

 make -j4 install

 (delete all files from the build path)

 (2) cmake options for mdrun_mpi
 ...
   -DGMX_GPU=OFF\
   -DGMX_MPI=ON \
   -DGMX_PREFER_STATIC_LIBS=ON  \
 ...

 make -j4 install-mdrun

 The openmpi-version (mdrun_mpi) runs reasonable on
 Cygwin/64 1.7.25, but not as fast as the native
 windows version (compiled with visual studio 10 or 12).
 The windows-compiled version of 4.6.3 is very robust and
 allows to link mdrun against CUDA 5.0 (but not 5.5(+VC12)
 for unknown reasons). Then, you'll have full gpu support
 under windows.

 Regards

 M.

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