Re: [gmx-users] How to construct mixed lipid bilayer

2013-11-13 Thread Arun kumar V
Start with packmol if you want to start from scratch. Or else get a pretty
equilibrated mixed lipid bilayer if available somewhere on web.
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 Dear All,

 can anyone tell me how to construct mixed lipid bilayer in gromacs

 id possible also provide me the command to construct the mixed bilayer


 Thanks in advance

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Re: [gmx-users] How to construct mixed lipid bilayer

2013-11-13 Thread Arun kumar V
Let me correct myself :). Its pre-equilibrated. Not pretty equilibrated. :)
On Nov 13, 2013 7:23 PM, Arun kumar V arun.tar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Start with packmol if you want to start from scratch. Or else get a pretty
 equilibrated mixed lipid bilayer if available somewhere on web.
 On Nov 13, 2013 6:45 PM, Nikhil Agrawal nikhil.08...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 can anyone tell me how to construct mixed lipid bilayer in gromacs

 id possible also provide me the command to construct the mixed bilayer


 Thanks in advance

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[gmx-users] Restarting a simulation after replacing an empty md.trr file

2013-11-12 Thread arun kumar
Dear Gromacs users,

I am running a 50ns simulation of a protein having nearly 700 residues on
60 threads (Gromacs 4.6.3).
At one point i got a disk space problem, so i have deleted the md.trr file
and created an empty md.trr file. when i tried to restart the simulation
from check point file on 100 threads, [ mdrun -v -deffnm md -cpi md.cpt -nt
100 ]
i am getting a note and an error as fallows

Reading checkpoint file md.cpt generated:
  #PME-nodes mismatch,
current program: 100
checkpoint file: 60
Gromacs binary or parallel settings not identical to previous run.
Continuation is exact, but is not guaranteed to be binary identical.
...

Source code file: checkpoint.c, line: 1767
Fatal error:
Can't read 1048576 bytes of 'md.trr' to compute checksum. The file
has been replaced or its contents has been modified.

please help me in overcoming this problem.

Thanking you.

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[gmx-users] do_dssp segmentation fault

2012-03-02 Thread arun kumar
Dear all,

Iam trying to generate secondary structure plot through do_dssp program,
but there was an error like segmentation fault

Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
bash-4.1#

can anybody please say what it means and how to solve it

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[gmx-users] ERRORS IN PROTEIN-LIGAND COMPLEX SIMULATION

2011-11-15 Thread arun kumar
Dear friends,

i had a problem while running the of protein-ligand complex simulation, in
which i have generated the ligand toplogy by using online Prodrg server and
iam using gromos 96.1froce field.

there was an note and an error during minimization

NOTE 2 [file trp.top]:
  The largest charge group contains 15 atoms.
  Since atoms only see each other when the centers of geometry of the charge
  groups they belong to are within the cut-off distance, too large charge
  groups can lead to serious cut-off artifacts.
  For efficiency and accuracy, charge group should consist of a few atoms.
  For all-atom force fields use: CH3, CH2, CH, NH2, NH, OH, CO2, CO, etc.

Analysing residue names:
There are:   223Protein residues
There are: 1  Other residues
There are: 25853  Water residues
Analysing Protein...
Analysing residues not classified as Protein/DNA/RNA/Water and splitting
into groups...
Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 161838.00
Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.790, 0.356 nm
Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:   0.790, 0.399 nm

WARNING 1 [file em.mdp]:
  The sum of the two largest charge group radii (1.188798) is larger than
  rlist (1.00)

i am using the mdp file the one that i copied from gromacs protein-ligand
tutorial

can any one please explain these errors so that i can go farward in my work.

and i have a doubt, as there are other updated forcefields, how much
reliable is the gromos 96 ff

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[gmx-users] ERRORS IN PROTEIN-LIGAND COMPLEX SIMULATION

2011-11-15 Thread arun kumar
hi justin,

as u said i understand that there is inconsistency in the charges and
charge groups of  PRODRG server itself.
can u suggest me any other softwares that i can rely on for this work.

Thanking you.

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 arun kumar wrote:
  Dear friends,
 
  i had a problem while running the of protein-ligand complex simulation,
  in which i have generated the ligand toplogy by using online Prodrg
  server and iam using gromos 96.1froce field.
 
  there was an note and an error during minimization
 
  NOTE 2 [file trp.top]:
The largest charge group contains 15 atoms.
Since atoms only see each other when the centers of geometry of the
 charge
groups they belong to are within the cut-off distance, too large charge
groups can lead to serious cut-off artifacts.
For efficiency and accuracy, charge group should consist of a few
 atoms.
For all-atom force fields use: CH3, CH2, CH, NH2, NH, OH, CO2, CO, etc.
 
  Analysing residue names:
  There are:   223Protein residues
  There are: 1  Other residues
  There are: 25853  Water residues
  Analysing Protein...
  Analysing residues not classified as Protein/DNA/RNA/Water and splitting
  into groups...
  Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group rest is 161838.00
  Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.790, 0.356 nm
  Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:   0.790, 0.399 nm
 
  WARNING 1 [file em.mdp]:
The sum of the two largest charge group radii (1.188798) is larger than
rlist (1.00)
 
  i am using the mdp file the one that i copied from gromacs
  protein-ligand tutorial
 
  can any one please explain these errors so that i can go farward in my
 work.
 


 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#The_sum_of_the_two_largest_charge_group_radii_(X)_is_larger_than.c2.a0rlist_-_rvdw.2frcoulomb

  and i have a doubt, as there are other updated forcefields, how much
  reliable is the gromos 96 ff
 

 The problem is not the reliability of Gromos96, but the reliability of
 PRODRG.
 Please read the paper linked from
 http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/PRODRG#Tips to
 understand why
 you should almost certainly never use the charges and charge groups that
 PRODRG
 creates.

 -Justin

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 I am interested to get contour plot of residue RMSD vs time graph. I want
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[gmx-users] simulation at higher temperatures gmx-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 167

2011-08-30 Thread arun kumar
hi justin, I accept with u that simulation will not complete in 3ns, but as
iam trying simulation at 400k for the first time i just kept it for 3ns to
see how it will be.
and for checking conformational changes i saved the structures for each
100ps from the trajectory (is it a correct procedure for that.?)

and is it possible to give explanation for the parameters and forcefield
that we need to fallow for higher temperature simulations..?

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   4. Re: gromacs question topologie (Justin A. Lemkul)
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 Yao Yao wrote:
  Hi Justin,
 
  Thanks for your last reply. Now it seems that OPLS has known the
  atomtypes after I added those CA1, ... to ffoplsaanb.itp,
  but after I claim all the angles, dihedrals, ... in the ffoplsaabon.itp,
  it still gives errors like,
 
  Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.2#
  checking input for internal consistency...
  processing topology...
  Opening library file
 /share/apps/gromacs407/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaa.itp
  Opening library file
 /share/apps/gromacs407/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaanb.itp
  Opening library file
  /share/apps/gromacs407/share/gromacs/top/ffoplsaabon.itp
  Generated 338253 of the 338253 non-bonded parameter combinations
  Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 0.5
  Generated 338253 of the 338253 1-4 parameter combinations
 
  ERROR 1 [file cro.top, line 37]:
No default Bond types
 
 
  ERROR 2 [file cro.top, line 71]:
No default Angle types
 
 
  ERROR 3 [file cro.top, line 72]:
No default Angle types
 
 
  ERROR 4 [file cro.top, line 85]:
No default Angle types
 
 
  ERROR 5 [file cro.top, line 91]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
 
 
  ERROR 6 [file cro.top, line 92]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
 
 
  ERROR 7 [file cro.top, line 93]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
 
 
  ERROR 8 [file cro.top, line 108]:
No default Ryckaert-Bell. types
 
 
  ERROR 9 [file cro.top, line 112]:
No default Proper Dih. types
 
 
  ERROR 10 [file cro.top, line 113]:
No default Proper Dih. types
 
 
  ERROR 11 [file cro.top, line 114]:
No default Proper Dih. types
 
  Opening library file /share/apps/gromacs407/share/gromacs/top/spc.itp
  Opening library file /share/apps/gromacs407/share/gromacs/top/ions.itp
  Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein'
  Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'
  Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'
 
  NOTE 1 [file cro.top, line 142]:
System has non-zero total charge: -1.022478e+00
 
 

 This total charge suggests that your topology is badly broken.

 
  processing coordinates...
  double-checking input for internal consistency...
  renumbering atomtypes...
  converting bonded parameters...
 
  There was 1 note
 
  ---
  Program grompp, VERSION 4.0.7
  Source code file: grompp.c, line: 986
 
  Fatal error:
  There were 11 errors in input file(s)
  ---
 
  I do double-check those bondtypes, angles, and interactions mentioned in
  the errors, and I am pretty sure I have already declared those values in
  the ffoplsaabon.itp.
  Is there any other file I also need to mention those values?
 

 If these types were actually present in ffoplsaabon.itp, then you wouldn't
 get
 these errors.  Double check again.

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] simulation at higher temperatures

2011-08-29 Thread arun kumar
Hi friends,

As a part of my work i have to do simulation at higher temperature (400K or
more) to study the folding, unfolding and stability of protein, for that i
kept simulation for 3ns at 400k (400k temperature both in equilibration and
production) keeping all the other parameters as usual (time step 2fs,
explicit solvent model SPC, equilibration with NVT and NPT ensembles for
100ps each  ). the simulation was completed but ,
1. in trajectory i found that protein is comming out of the box (cubic box
-d 1.0) i think may be the box size was not sufficient  (and i know that
when we increase the temperature the velocity of atoms will increase).
2.  when i save the structure with minimum energy  and saw in pymol i found
the side chains, hydrogens was broken through out the protein.
3. later i used the command ( trajconv -s md.tpr -f md.trr -o protein.pdb
-pbc nojump -dt 10 ) to save the conformations at each 10 ps and to see the
conformational changes by playing it as a movie in pymol , but i found a
single conformation was just shaking through out the movie (this is
happening in normal simulation also)

later i read in gmx user problems that most of the force field parameters
are calculated at room temperature, so in that case what are the parameters
and forcefield that we need to fallow for higher temperature simulations.

so can any one please takes time to explain this, it would be helpful for me
to study further.

Thanking you.

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Re: [gmx-users] Simulation of only Lipid Bilayer

2010-04-08 Thread Arun kumar V
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Arun kumar V wrote:

 Try PRODRG server to build the molecule as well as to get topology file.
 Though  you might have to be careful in using this topology file.


 If by be careful you mean don't use this topology, I'll agree :)  The
 Gromos parameters for lipids (at least Gromos87 and Gromos96 43a1, given by
 PRODRG) fall far short of reproducing lipid properties.  That, and the
 charges assigned by PRODRG for lipids will not resemble any known parameter
 set, requiring a complete re-write of this topology.  You could use PRODRG
 to build the molecule, but there are a number of other programs that can do
 that as well (see the Gromacs site for a list).

 To the original post: What lipid are you looking to simulate?  Many
 pre-equilibrated lipid bilayers are available in the public domain, along
 with suitable paramters, saving you a lot of work in building these systems.
  They can be tricky.

 -Justin


 @Justin
 I agree with you. Currently I am not actively involving with
gromacs simulations but planning to involve. I have not been to GROMACS
website from long time. In fact the version I have used last time is gromacs
3.3(almost 2 years back). There is lot of progress ofcourse.

Thanks,
Arun

 Arun

 Saumya wrote:

 Hi all,

 Well, I have been trying to make lipid bilayers using genconf of
 gromacs from a single lipid molecule.
 Can anyone tell me how to proceed with the simulation of lipid
 bilayers starting with a single lipid molecule?
 How can I obtain the .pdb file for a lipid?
 Is there any manual that describes the procedure using Gromacs?

 Hoping for some inputs.

 Regards
 Saumya




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Re: [gmx-users] Simulation of only Lipid Bilayer

2010-04-06 Thread Arun kumar V
Try PRODRG server to build the molecule as well as to get topology file. 
Though  you might have to be careful in using this topology file.


Arun

Saumya wrote:

Hi all,

Well, I have been trying to make lipid bilayers using genconf of
gromacs from a single lipid molecule.
Can anyone tell me how to proceed with the simulation of lipid
bilayers starting with a single lipid molecule?
How can I obtain the .pdb file for a lipid?
Is there any manual that describes the procedure using Gromacs?

Hoping for some inputs.

Regards
Saumya
  


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[gmx-users] Re: Forming a micelles

2008-09-26 Thread Arun kumar
Dear Lin,
 Actually I chose the concentration randomly and viewed the
pictures. I used united atom force field. Surfactant is Behenyl trimethyl
ammonium chloride and co surfactant is stearyl alcohol. I did carry out
simulations for 4 different concentrations. I did not carry out simulations
to find out what is CMC.

For the system size I mentioned...  I carried out simulations for 600 ps
from random configurations. And then I checked pictures and also checked
energies and other properties. And once again started from the final
configuration of the first simulation for next simulation (another 600 ps).
Similar way Third simulation.. In the last 600 ps I observed Micelle
formation and also energies and properties are constant over some 300 ps.

Only through visualization only I observed micelle formation.

With regards,
Arun

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 Hi
 Would you please say more about your system?
 How do you design / decide your simulation size of 100 surfactants +100
 co-surfactants + 4000 water molecules??

 How many surfactants will form a micelle?
 How many atoms does one surfactant have?
 How many atoms does one co-surfactant have?

 Do you start from the critical micelle concentration?
 You mentioned that it took 3 x 600 ps to see the micelles.
 Do you mean that you have 3 computers to do the parallel simulation?

 How long does it take to simulate 600 ps?
 Do you visualize the whole 600 ps-image and SEE the micelle?
 Or, other technique to KNOW the surfactants forming the micelles
 without visualizing the system?

 Thank you
 Lin





 Hello there...
   I carried out simulations of mixture of cationic
 surfactants, fatty alcohols and water with various ratios of
 surfactant/alcohol.  Usually for a system of 100 surfactants +100
 co-surfactants + 4000 water molecules, it took 3 x 600 ps to see the
 micelles and other structures  forming from random configurations.

 Arun




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Re: [gmx-users] Relationship between the spetide.gro file and the #spetide.gro.1#?

2007-08-14 Thread Arun kumar
Hai.
  If your working directory contains a file named already speptide.gro,
when u run another simulation for which the output (final coordinates) is
also speptide.gro, then the previous file will be backed up as
#speptide.gro.1# . Similarly if u run another simulation then the
speptide.gro file will be backed up as #speptide.gro.2# . It applies to
every file in ur working directory. Hope u understood..

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Re: [gmx-users] CVS code needed

2007-07-22 Thread Arun kumar

Dear Erik,
  Thank you for the link
Kumar
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I put a recent copy (friday) at

http://lindahl.sbc.su.se/outgoing/aatto/

Cheers,

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And yes... we should get a nightly-snapshot system running... :-)


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   Our campus network is behind firewall because of which I
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 of u send me tar.gz file.

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Re: [gmx-users] Continuing runs that stopped

2007-06-12 Thread Arun kumar

There are two ways of doing this
1) using grompp (check man page)
2) using tpbconv(easier)

check man pages for tpbconv..

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Re: [gmx-users] glibc error with g_density (only for some cases)

2007-05-19 Thread Arun kumar

Dear David,
I will check the reproducibility of the result once again. And then I
will submit the bugzilla with all inputs I used for these simulations.

Regards,
Arun

On 5/19/07, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Arun kumar wrote:
 Dear David,
  My gcc compiler version is 4.0.1.  Is there any
 problem with this version??

 On 5/18/07, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Arun kumar wrote:
  Hai Mark..
   Thanks for your suggestions. I will think about my
  problem clearly and will post a message with much care so that every
  one can easily read. Also I can get a response.
 
About g_density I will check once again the log file
  and post the reply here. But I think there is nothing went wrong in my
  simulations in between 500 and 1500 time steps. I am able to evaluate
  all properties for those frames also. Anyway I will check once again.
 
  Thanks and regards
  Arun Kumar
 
  On 5/18/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Arun kumar wrote:
   Dear gmx-users,
  I want to discuss and understand about an
   error I am getting only at times I am simulating a DPPC double
   bilayer phase(got the coordinates from Dr Tieleman's website). I
 used
   genbox  -cs to get double bilayer. Then i started simulations
   normally.
  
   When I use   g_density -b 500  I get the following error
  
   *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal):
   0x00713260 *** Aborted
  
 This is either a compilation problem or a bug, but most likely the
 first. Did you use gcc 4.1.x by any chance? That compiler is broken.



gcc 4.0.1 should be fine as far as I know. You are welcome to submit a
bugzilla
with input that reproduces the problem.


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Re: [gmx-users] glibc error with g_density (only for some cases)

2007-05-18 Thread Arun kumar

Dear David,
 My gcc compiler version is 4.0.1.  Is there any
problem with this version??

On 5/18/07, David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Arun kumar wrote:
 Hai Mark..
  Thanks for your suggestions. I will think about my
 problem clearly and will post a message with much care so that every
 one can easily read. Also I can get a response.

   About g_density I will check once again the log file
 and post the reply here. But I think there is nothing went wrong in my
 simulations in between 500 and 1500 time steps. I am able to evaluate
 all properties for those frames also. Anyway I will check once again.

 Thanks and regards
 Arun Kumar

 On 5/18/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Arun kumar wrote:
  Dear gmx-users,
 I want to discuss and understand about an
  error I am getting only at times I am simulating a DPPC double
  bilayer phase(got the coordinates from Dr Tieleman's website). I used
  genbox  -cs to get double bilayer. Then i started simulations
  normally.
 
  When I use   g_density -b 500  I get the following error
 
  *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal):
  0x00713260 *** Aborted
 
This is either a compilation problem or a bug, but most likely the
first. Did you use gcc 4.1.x by any chance? That compiler is broken.


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[gmx-users] initial configuration problems and energy minimization

2007-05-17 Thread Arun kumar

Dear gmx-users,
   Here I have a some problem regarding initial
configuration  My system is composed of  cationic surfactants,
co-surfactants, water. I am able to minimize the energy of my
system(random), if it contains 15(surfactants)+ 15(co-surf)+
1000(water)+
15 (counterions) and also am able to simulate...

  But when I increase the number of surfactants
or co-surfactants. Even the energy of the system initially is a
big negative. When I start true simulation, Potential energy is
becoming positive...and ultimately box is exploding [xtc error or some
times ci error].. still I tried to minimize the energy of initial
configuration, but I am getting the same error.

Below I describe the steps i took to do simulations

1)minimize the energy of surfactnat(btm.gro)(includes counterion) and
co-surfactant(str.gro) in Vaccum

2)Generate a system of 100 surfactnats(includes counterions), 20
co-surfactants and 1000 waters by using  packmol(random)

3)Minimize the whole system until potential will become a reasonable negaive

4)With that minimized structure I run simulation but always the box is exploding

My simulation is successful when  the no of surf and co-surf are 15+15

For this successful simulation Initially i am conducting a NVT
simulation with 0.01 fs timestep  at 100K temp and then another NVT at
desired temp(300K) and then NPT with 2fs timestep

I don't know why I am unable to conduct with more no. of surfactants
in water. I tried the samething for a bilayer initial
configuration also(generated by packmol), but getting same error
Is there any solution to solve this??? I already checked archive lot
of times but i am unable to find anything relevant.

I think its not that much related to gromacs.. But i need help to
solve this problem I can give any more details if it is
needed.

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Re: [gmx-users] initial configuration problems and energy minimization

2007-05-17 Thread Arun kumar

Hi Mark.
  Thanks for your suggestions I will use your
suggestions to solve the problem. And  then I will reply here about
the outcomes.

Regards
Arun

On 5/18/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Arun kumar wrote:
 Dear gmx-users,
Here I have a some problem regarding initial
 configuration  My system is composed of  cationic surfactants,
 co-surfactants, water. I am able to minimize the energy of my
 system(random), if it contains 15(surfactants)+ 15(co-surf)+
 1000(water)+
 15 (counterions) and also am able to simulate...

   But when I increase the number of surfactants
 or co-surfactants. Even the energy of the system initially is a
 big negative. When I start true simulation, Potential energy is
 becoming positive...and ultimately box is exploding [xtc error or some
 times ci error].. still I tried to minimize the energy of initial
 configuration, but I am getting the same error.

 Below I describe the steps i took to do simulations

 1)minimize the energy of surfactnat(btm.gro)(includes counterion) and
 co-surfactant(str.gro) in Vaccum

 2)Generate a system of 100 surfactnats(includes counterions), 20
 co-surfactants and 1000 waters by using  packmol(random)

 3)Minimize the whole system until potential will become a reasonable
 negaive

 4)With that minimized structure I run simulation but always the box is
 exploding

 My simulation is successful when  the no of surf and co-surf are 15+15

 For this successful simulation Initially i am conducting a NVT
 simulation with 0.01 fs timestep  at 100K temp and then another NVT at
 desired temp(300K) and then NPT with 2fs timestep

This looks pretty reasonable. You should check visually that packmol is
not generating a conformation with atoms that are too close together.
You can try using position restraints during your equilibration steps,
and equilibrating for longer. The explosion is almost certainly
happening because atoms are too close at some point, and these leads to
huge energies. If your density is wrong for your NVT, then relaxing to
NpT too quickly can cause this sort of problem too - use a large tau_t,
or generate a box closer to the right size initially.

Mark
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[gmx-users] glibc error with g_density (only for some cases)

2007-05-17 Thread Arun kumar

Dear gmx-users,
   I want to discuss and understand about an
error I am getting only at times I am simulating a DPPC double
bilayer phase(got the coordinates from Dr Tieleman's website). I used
genbox  -cs to get double bilayer. Then i started simulations
normally.

When I use   g_density -b 500  I get the following error

*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal):
0x00713260 *** Aborted

It is giving a empty density.xvg file

I get same error if I use g_density -b 1000
I checked the reproducibility of the error.. I am getting it
always(I mean I am using g_density once again again, Not
simulating the system once again again)

But when I use g_density -b 1500 or more I am getting densities normally.
Actually  i am doing simulations at 4 different temperatures. But
I am getting the error only for three temperatures For one
temperature Every thing is fine..
Gromacs version I am using is : 3.3.1
I checked the archives and in google I found a similar error in
archives for make_ndx

After checking in google I came to know that its a common bug with
glibc package of different versions.  Now i want to know is there
anything wrong in my simulations(possibilities) and also how I can rid
of these errors.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Energy minimization problem(1-4 interaction at distance 3.540 is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm)

2007-05-06 Thread Arun kumar

Hai Tsjerk, David, Mark and others,
  Thank you for all
your responses. I had been successful in setting up simulation and
also in understanding what David and Mark told. As Dr. David
suggested, I started EM for single surfactant in vaccum and successful
in minimizing the energy. Also I did EM for my co-surfactant stearyl
alcohol and had been successful. Then I started minimizing the energy
of a system of 500 waters+ 1 cationic surf+ 1 fatty alcohol. It also
worked fine.  And I started true dynamics(MD) of the bulk system and
had been successful. I think all these posts will be useful for others
who start gromacs with these kind of systems. So for me, Now the only
problem is getting correct forcefield for my surfactant system to get
good physical properties. I will post the topology for my surf and
co-surf when I will be successful in doing that.

Thanks and Regards
Arun Kumar

On 5/6/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Arun kumar wrote:
 Hi Tsjerk and others,
 I tried to simulate one surfactant and one
 chloride ion in 500 waters and got similar type of errors. I mean my
 system got collapsed for l-bfgs minimization and for steepest descent
 the potential energy is a large number.(obviously some bad contacts).
 It seems the problem is with topology. Earlier I asked about what is
 meant by broken topology?? Can anyone tell what may ne the problem and
 also about what is meant by broken topology??

A broken topology is where you haven't managed to describe the bond
connectivity in your .top file that you'd like to. The way to fix it is
to reduce your problem to its simplest form (single surfactant in
vacuum, as David suggests), observe where the breakage occurs, read
chapter 5 carefully, and remedy appropriately.

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[gmx-users] Re: Energy minimization problem(1-4 interaction at distance 3.540 is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm)

2007-05-05 Thread Arun kumar

Hi Tsjerk and others,
I tried to simulate one surfactant and one
chloride ion in 500 waters and got similar type of errors. I mean my
system got collapsed for l-bfgs minimization and for steepest descent
the potential energy is a large number.(obviously some bad contacts).
It seems the problem is with topology. Earlier I asked about what is
meant by broken topology?? Can anyone tell what may ne the problem and
also about what is meant by broken topology??

Thanks and Regards
Arun Kumar
M.E chem engg



Hi Tsjerk and gmx-users,
Thank you for the response. And I will be more
clear in asking questions.  The force field I am using is ffgmx. I am
not sure I will obtain good properties for my system with ffgmx at
this time. But I want to understand how to set up my simulation which
contains ionic surfactants.

And yes I will strat it for one surfactant and
one counterion in water.

In my post, MDRUN means True dynamics( I mean
real md not energy minimization). I know that without minimizing the
energy it will be bad to do MD. But I just checked how it will work as
I kept density around 330 kg/m^3. I think it won't work even. Sorry
for confusing with last post.

   My system's initial configuration is alright it
seems(No overlapping atoms and bonds). And after I start EM or MD it's
exploding(Why I don't know exactly).

   Now I will tell the steps I took to start my
simulation. Initially I got topology and pdb files(united atom) from
PRODRG(gromos 87 force field) for my surfactant behenyl(C22) trimethyl
ammonium chloride(charge +1, it won't contain chloride) and stearyl
alcohol. And then I got water.pdb,chlorine.pdb from pdb database. I
prepared a random configuration of 1400 water molecules, 20 surf, 20
chloride ions and 40 co-surfs in 5X5X8 nm^3 by using packmol.

  Then I used editconf to get system.gro from
system.pdb and also put in a cubic box with this command
  editconf -f system.pdb -bt cubic -o system.gro

  But it reported system volume was zero. So I changed
end of my .gro file by replacing 0. 0. 0.  by 5.000 5.000
8.000. The density is about 330 kg/m^3. So I thought it will be useful
in Energy Minimization and also can be adjusted in NPT md simulation.
As i have a little experience in DPPC topologies and running
simulation for DPPC bilayer phase(successfully) using the files got
from Tieleman's website, I prepared a topology file for my
system(btm.top). It contains the following lines

#include ffgmx.itp
#include btm87.itp
#include stearyl87.itp
#include ions.itp

#ifdef FLEX_SPC
#include flexspc.itp
#else
#include spc.itp
#endif
[ system ]
BTM with cosurf
[ molecules ]
; name  number
BTM   20
STR   40
SOL 1400
Cl 20

btm87.itp(surf) and stearyl87.itp(co-surf) are topologies got from PRODRG.

   I kept all these in my direactory. Now I tried to minmize
the energy of the system. First I used grompp to create md input
file(I mean for EM). It worked fine. But for mdrun system is
exploding(for l-bfgs method). For steepest descent it's not,  But the
potential energy of the system was a big positive number at end. For
my true MD also the system's exploding like l-bfgs minmization after
showing that warning earlier I posted. These are the steps I took  and
results I got. And for last query regarding tc-grps, I coupled the
whole system to a heat bath at 300 K. I observed the previous posts.
Here with this mail I attached my MD .mdp file.

 And at last Is there any relation with Mark's(Mark abraham)
observations regarding broken topologies in some of the posts I
observed, with my problem. Can anyone explain what is meant by a
broken topology file.  Try to help me to understand these thing
well???
I can give any more details if it is needed.

Thanks and regards
Arun Kumar
M.E chem engg

 Hi Arun,

 You have to get your methods straight.., and be more clear in the
 phrasing of your question.

   I am trying to simulate a surfactant-water
  system(also contains some co-surfactants).  Surfactant is a cationic
  surfactant with chloride as counterion. And the cosurfactant is fatty
  alcohol. water is of spc model. I got topologies from Prodrg for my
  surfactant and cosurfactant.

 What force field do you use? The standard output from PRODRG for
 gromacs is the gmx force field, which is deprecated and shouldn't be
 used (this is in the archives).

  So  I  minimized the energies  for both my
  molecules. And prepared a system of 1400 waters, 20 surfactants, 20 counter
  ions and 40 cosurfactants in a box  of 5X5X8 nm^3 using packmol.
 

 Maybe you're better of trying one surfactant molecule and one chloride
 in water to start with?

  I tried to minimize the energy of the system using
  l-bfgs. But I am always getting the error attached

[gmx-users] Energy minimization problem(1-4 interaction at distance 3.540 is larger than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm)

2007-05-04 Thread Arun kumar

Dear gmx-users:
   I am trying to simulate a surfactant-water
system(also contains some co-surfactants).  Surfactant is a cationic
surfactant with chloride as counterion. And the cosurfactant is fatty
alcohol. water is of spc model. I got topologies from Prodrg for my
surfactant and cosurfactant.  So  I  minimized the energies  for both my
molecules. And prepared a system of 1400 waters, 20 surfactants, 20 counter
ions and 40 cosurfactants in a box  of 5X5X8 nm^3 using packmol.

  I tried to minimize the energy of the system using
l-bfgs. But I am always getting the error attached below. In my em.mdp file
I am using pme for coulomb type.  Even for MDRUN also I am getting the same
error...  I checked the previous posts and I am unable to understand what's
the problem. And can anyone tell what is meant by broken topology??? Also
try to help me to get out of the problem.


Low-Memory BFGS Minimizer:
  Tolerance (Fmax)   =  2.0e+04
  Number of steps=1
Warning: 1-4 interaction between 1 and 4 at distance 3.540 which is larger
than the 1-4 table size 1.000 nm
These are ignored for the rest of the simulation
This usually means your system is exploding,
if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file
Using 10 BFGS correction steps.

  F-max =  inf on atom 97
  F-Norm=  nan
---

My topology contains a system of four types surfactant, cosurfctant, water
and Chloride ions. Until grompp everything is fine. Total charge on system
is zero. I can give any more details if it is needed.

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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 37, Issue 18

2007-05-04 Thread Arun kumar

Hi Tsjerk and gmx-users,
   Thank you for the response. And I will be more
clear in asking questions.  The force field I am using is ffgmx. I am
not sure I will obtain good properties for my system with ffgmx at
this time. But I want to understand how to set up my simulation which
contains ionic surfactants.

   And yes I will strat it for one surfactant and
one counterion in water.

   In my post, MDRUN means True dynamics( I mean
real md not energy minimization). I know that without minimizing the
energy it will be bad to do MD. But I just checked how it will work as
I kept density around 330 kg/m^3. I think it won't work even. Sorry
for confusing with last post.

  My system's initial configuration is alright it
seems(No overlapping atoms and bonds). And after I start EM or MD it's
exploding(Why I don't know exactly).

  Now I will tell the steps I took to start my
simulation. Initially I got topology and pdb files(united atom) from
PRODRG(gromos 87 force field) for my surfactant behenyl(C22) trimethyl
ammonium chloride(charge +1, it won't contain chloride) and stearyl
alcohol. And then I got water.pdb,chlorine.pdb from pdb database. I
prepared a random configuration of 1400 water molecules, 20 surf, 20
chloride ions and 40 co-surfs in 5X5X8 nm^3 by using packmol.

 Then I used editconf to get system.gro from
system.pdb and also put in a cubic box with this command
 editconf -f system.pdb -bt cubic -o system.gro

 But it reported system volume was zero. So I changed
end of my .gro file by replacing 0. 0. 0.  by 5.000 5.000
8.000. The density is about 330 kg/m^3. So I thought it will be useful
in Energy Minimization and also can be adjusted in NPT md simulation.
As i have a little experience in DPPC topologies and running
simulation for DPPC bilayer phase(successfully) using the files got
from Tieleman's website, I prepared a topology file for my
system(btm.top). It contains the following lines

#include ffgmx.itp
#include btm87.itp
#include stearyl87.itp
#include ions.itp

#ifdef FLEX_SPC
#include flexspc.itp
#else
#include spc.itp
#endif
[ system ]
BTM with cosurf
[ molecules ]
; name  number
BTM   20
STR   40
SOL 1400
Cl 20

btm87.itp(surf) and stearyl87.itp(co-surf) are topologies got from PRODRG.

  I kept all these in my direactory. Now I tried to minmize
the energy of the system. First I used grompp to create md input
file(I mean for EM). It worked fine. But for mdrun system is
exploding(for l-bfgs method). For steepest descent it's not,  But the
potential energy of the system was a big positive number at end. For
my true MD also the system's exploding like l-bfgs minmization after
showing that warning earlier I posted. These are the steps I took  and
results I got. And for last query regarding tc-grps, I coupled the
whole system to a heat bath at 300 K. I observed the previous posts.
Here with this mail I attached my MD .mdp file.

And at last Is there any relation with Mark's(Mark abraham)
observations regarding broken topologies in some of the posts I
observed, with my problem. Can anyone explain what is meant by a
broken topology file.  Try to help me to understand these thing
well???
I can give any more details if it is needed.

Thanks and regards
Arun Kumar
M.E chem engg


Hi Arun,



You have to get your methods straight.., and be more clear in the
phrasing of your question.

  I am trying to simulate a surfactant-water
 system(also contains some co-surfactants).  Surfactant is a cationic
 surfactant with chloride as counterion. And the cosurfactant is fatty
 alcohol. water is of spc model. I got topologies from Prodrg for my
 surfactant and cosurfactant.

What force field do you use? The standard output from PRODRG for
gromacs is the gmx force field, which is deprecated and shouldn't be
used (this is in the archives).

 So  I  minimized the energies  for both my
 molecules. And prepared a system of 1400 waters, 20 surfactants, 20 counter
 ions and 40 cosurfactants in a box  of 5X5X8 nm^3 using packmol.


Maybe you're better of trying one surfactant molecule and one chloride
in water to start with?

 I tried to minimize the energy of the system using
 l-bfgs. But I am always getting the error attached below. In my em.mdp file
 I am using pme for coulomb type.  Even for MDRUN also I am getting the same
 error...  I checked the previous posts and I am unable to understand what's
 the problem. And can anyone tell what is meant by broken topology??? Also
 try to help me to get out of the problem.

Even for MDRUN? pfff, that must be really bad then. First of all, do
you mean running the program 'mdrun' with the .tpr file for l-bfgs EM,
or an actual MD run? In case of the latter, wouldn't you think there's
little point in starting an MD run if energy

[gmx-users] problem regarding editconf - atommass

2006-11-16 Thread ARUN KUMAR

Hai all
I am trying to simulate the bulk phase decane system using
GROMACS... I used decane pdb file which I goT from HIC UP I
changed the residue name to C10 from D10 to match the residue name in
ffgmx.rtp(GROMACS force field)
I ran pdb2gmx , selected forcefield 4(ffgmx)... and got .top and gro files
for my decane molecule...There saw the molecule mass as 142.17 which is
correct ... Now as I want to simulate Bulk I used  genconf to get my 512
molecule system. i got out.gro file from this. To get the desired
density I used editconf to get 602 gr/ltr But here in out put as shown
below its showing the different mass for 512 molecules i.e 61498.9.(see
output of editconf)..which means that single molecule mass is
120.11...means hydrogen masses are missing... I checked
atommass.datand I am unable to know what  I have to do.

Awaiting for help

Arun

GENCONF output

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ !genconf
genconf -nbox 8 8 8  -dist 1 1 1 -f conf.gro
:-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:

 GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers

   :-)  VERSION 3.2.1  (-:


 Written by David van der Spoel, Erik Lindahl, Berk Hess, and others.
  Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
Copyright (c) 2001-2004, The GROMACS development team,
   check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.

This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
 modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
of the License, or (at your option) any later version.

  :-)  genconf  (-:

Option Filename  Type Description

 -f   conf.gro  InputGeneric structure: gro g96 pdb tpr tpb tpa
  xml
 -oout.gro  Output   Generic structure: gro g96 pdb xml
-trj   traj.xtc  Input, Opt.  Generic trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96
pdb

 Option   Type  Value  Description
--
 -[no]h   bool no  Print help info and quit
 -[no]X   bool no  Use dialog box GUI to edit command line options
  -niceint  0  Set the nicelevel
  -nbox vector  8 8 8  Number of boxes
  -dist vector  1 1 1  Distance between boxes
  -seedint  0  Random generator seed, if 0 generated from the
   time
   -[no]rot   bool no  Randomly rotate conformations
-[no]shuffle   bool no  Random shuffling of molecules
  -[no]sort   bool no  Sort molecules on X coord
 -blockint  1  Divide the box in blocks on this number of cpus
-nmolatint  3  Number of atoms per molecule, assumed to start
   from 0. If you set this wrong, it will screw up
   your system!
-maxrot vector 90 90 90  Maximum random rotation
-[no]renumber  bool no  Renumber residues


gcq#77: One Cross Each (Monty Python)

###
After then I ran editconf to change density .. I used 512 decane
molecules... But I did not get the total mass of 512*142=72704 amu...
Instead I got 61498.9 which is 512*120 that means hydrogen masses are
missing Can anyone help me in this regard.
##
Here is the output


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ editconf -density 602 -f out.gro
:-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:

 Gromacs Runs On Most of All Computer Systems

   :-)  VERSION 3.2.1  (-:


 Written by David van der Spoel, Erik Lindahl, Berk Hess, and others.
  Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
Copyright (c) 2001-2004, The GROMACS development team,
   check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.

This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
 modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
of the License, or (at your option) any later version.

  :-)  editconf  (-:

Option Filename  Type Description

 -fout.gro  InputGeneric structure: gro g96 pdb tpr tpb tpa
  xml
 -n  index.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
 -oout.gro  Output   Generic structure: gro g96 pdb xml
-bf  bfact.dat  Input, Opt.  Generic data file

 Option   Type  Value  Description
--
 -[no]h   bool  

[gmx-users] Regarding preparation of .itp file for a new molecule

2006-09-26 Thread ARUN KUMAR
Hai all... 
 I am a
newbie to gromacs simulation software and its file formats. I want to
develop coarse grain models for surfactant systems by using atomistic
simulations. I got a .pdb file for BTMAC surfactant. 
 But to run
simuations on gromacs,I need to include .itp file in source code. Can
anyone of u tell me,Is it difficult to prepare a .itp file for a new
molecule?? If it is so, I want to know how many days it will take to
prepare... And also Please tell suggestions to prepare a .itp file
for a new molecule

Thanks in advance-- Arun kumar.VM.E Chemical Engg


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