Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF

2012-04-22 Thread Sundar Jubilant

 

 Dear Abraham,

Sorry for making it hard. Since I am so new to this I guess I am not explaining 
it clearly for you to help me.

First of all I dont want to ignore any hydrogens but as pdb2gmx was complaining 
about my system and suggested me to add -ignh I did so.

My problem is how to update .hdb with heme hydrogen details.

So, here to follow your suggestion removing the hydrogen atoms I wish to ignore 
I actually need to ignore the hydorgens in protein.

Thanks
Sundar

 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


  On 20/04/2012 9:02 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:
  
 
  
  
 Dear Abraham,
  
  How would it work if I remove the hydrogen atoms that I   
   wish to ignore from my input co-ordinate file? The pdb2gmx  
tries to add the missing hydorgen atoms for which the .hdb  doesn't 
have information.



You've never actually told us what hydrogens you want to ignore, so
you're making it hard to help you.

Mark


  
  
  In my case here, I can consider heme as a ligand instead  
of having it as protein since it doesn't need to be the  part 
of the protein.
  
  Thanks for your information.
  Sundar
  
  
 
  
  
-OriginalMessage-
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users

Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


  On 20/04/2012 7:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:  

 Dear Abraham,
  
  I am ignoring hydrogens for the protein residues  
since I am not sure if the Gromacs has an option
  to ignore hydrogen only for pretein residues but  not for 
the heme complexed with it.

  
  
  No, there is no ability to ignore them selectively - but  
if you want to ignore any of them, you have to address the  
heme hydrogen database issue, or go and remove the  hydrogen atoms 
that you wish to ignore from your input  coordinate file.
  
  

 
  One of my colleagues suggested to treat the Heme  
as an ligand not as a part of the protein to solve  
this issue. How would that really affect the  accuracy 
of the simulation?

  
  
  It's not a question of accuracy, but rather that if you   
   have bonded interactions between heme and protein, they  have to 
be part of the same [moleculetype], which is what  pdb2gmx is 
struggling to generate.
  
  Mark
  
  

 
  Thanks
  Sundar


 


 


-Original  Message-
  From: Mark Abraham 
  To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 

  Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 
 FF
  
  
    On 20/04/2012 4:38 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:   
 
  
 
  
  
 Dear Abraham,
  
  Thanks for your email. I have already 
 read the manual to solve the problem   
   but I wasn't successful.



That's good to say (particularly the first time 
   you post a request for help, else you'll just
get told to go and read), but is unlikely to get
much help because you haven't identified aspecific 
problem. You'd like the ability tobuild hydrogen atoms 
on a heme residue. pdb2gmxhas to have a specific recipe 
for doing that.The manual describes the required format 
and 

Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF

2012-04-20 Thread Sundar Jubilant

 

 Dear Abraham,

How would it work if I remove the hydrogen atoms that I wish to ignore from my 
input co-ordinate file? The pdb2gmx tries to add the missing hydorgen atoms for 
which the .hdb doesn't have information.

In my case here, I can consider heme as a ligand instead of having it as 
protein since it doesn't need to be the part of the protein.

Thanks for your information.
Sundar

 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


  On 20/04/2012 7:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:
  
 Dear Abraham,

I am ignoring hydrogens for the protein residues since I am 
   not sure if the Gromacs has an option to ignore hydrogenonly for 
pretein residues but not for the heme complexedwith it.
  


No, there is no ability to ignore them selectively - but if you wantto 
ignore any of them, you have to address the heme hydrogendatabase issue, or 
go and remove the hydrogen atoms that you wish toignore from your input 
coordinate file.


  

One of my colleagues suggested to treat the Heme as an
ligand not as a part of the protein to solve this issue. Howwould 
that really affect the accuracy of the simulation?
  


It's not a question of accuracy, but rather that if you have bonded
interactions between heme and protein, they have to be part of thesame 
[moleculetype], which is what pdb2gmx is struggling togenerate.

Mark


  

Thanks
Sundar
  
  
 
  
  
 
  
  
-OriginalMessage-
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users

Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


  On 20/04/2012 4:38 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:  

 


 DearAbraham,

Thanks for your email. I have already read the  
  manual to solve the problem but I wasn't
successful.
  
  
  
  That's good to say (particularly the first time you post a
  request for help, else you'll just get told to go and  read), 
but is unlikely to get much help because you  haven't identified a 
specific problem. You'd like the  ability to build hydrogen atoms 
on a heme residue. pdb2gmx  has to have a specific recipe for doing 
that. The manual  describes the required format and gives an 
example.  Someone's going to have to do some work.
  
  

 
I need little more detailed answer to solve the 
   problem. 

By the way, here is the full command line for   
 which I got the error.

$ pdb2gmx -f CYP.pdb -o CYP_CHARMM.pdb -p   
 CYP1_CHARMM.top -i CYP_CHARMM.itp -ignh
  
  
  
  If you don't ignore hydrogens, and they're already  
correct, you don't need to re-generate them...
  
  Mark
  
  

 
The error is

  WARNING:  atom HA is missing 
in residue HEM 513 in  the pdb file
   You might need to add atom HA to 
 the hydrogen database of building block
  HEME
   in the file aminoacids.hdb (see  
the manual)
  
  
  WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue HEM
  513 in the pdb file
   You might need to add atom HB to 
 the hydrogen database of building block
  HEME
   in the file aminoacids.hdb (see  
the manual)
  
  
  WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue HEM
  513 in t

Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF

2012-04-20 Thread Sundar Jubilant

 Dear Abraham,

I am ignoring hydrogens for the protein residues since I am not sure if the 
Gromacs has an option to ignore hydrogen only for pretein residues but not for 
the heme complexed with it.

One of my colleagues suggested to treat the Heme as an ligand not as a part of 
the protein to solve this issue. How would that really affect the accuracy of 
the simulation?

Thanks
Sundar

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


  On 20/04/2012 4:38 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:
  
 
  
  
 Dear Abraham,
  
  Thanks for your email. I have already read the manual to  
solve the problem but I wasn't successful.



That's good to say (particularly the first time you post a requestfor 
help, else you'll just get told to go and read), but is unlikelyto get much 
help because you haven't identified a specific problem.You'd like the 
ability to build hydrogen atoms on a heme residue.pdb2gmx has to have a 
specific recipe for doing that. The manualdescribes the required format and 
gives an example. Someone's goingto have to do some work.


  
  
  I need little more detailed answer to solve the problem. 
  
  By the way, here is the full command line for which I got 
 the error.
  
  $ pdb2gmx -f CYP.pdb -o CYP_CHARMM.pdb -p CYP1_CHARMM.top 
 -i CYP_CHARMM.itp -ignh



If you don't ignore hydrogens, and they're already correct, youdon't 
need to re-generate them...

Mark


  
  
  The error is
  
WARNING: atom HA is missing in residueHEM 513 
in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom HA to the   
 hydrogen database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue HEM 513 in   
 the pdb file
 You might need to add atom HB to the   
 hydrogen database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue HEM 513 in   
 the pdb file
 You might need to add atom HC to the   
 hydrogen database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)

.
.
.
.
.
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449

Fatal error:
There were 30 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if 
   you want to use this incomplete topology anyhow, use 
   the option -missing
For more information and tips for troubleshooting,  
  please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Thanks.
    
Sundar Jubilant
  
  
  
 
  
  
-OriginalMessage-
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users

Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF

    
      On 20/04/2012 2:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:  
Dear  gmx-users,
  
  I am new to Gromacs and trying to simulate a  
protein with a heme group using CHARMM27 ff in  
Gromacs 4.5.3. I have received the following error  while 
running pdb2gmx .

  
  When asking for help, please give your full command lines 
 and/or interactive selections so that we can know more  
context.
  
  
 
  WARNING: atom HA is missing in residue HEM 513 in 
 the pdb file
   You might need to add atom HA to the 
 hydrogen database of building blo

Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF

2012-04-19 Thread Sundar Jubilant

 

 Dear Abraham,

Thanks for your email. I have already read the manual to solve the problem but 
I wasn't successful.

I need little more detailed answer to solve the problem. 

By the way, here is the full command line for which I got the error.

$ pdb2gmx -f CYP.pdb -o CYP_CHARMM.pdb -p CYP1_CHARMM.top -i CYP_CHARMM.itp 
-ignh

The error is

WARNING: atom HA is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdbfile
 You might need to add atom HA to the hydrogen
database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb   
 file
 You might need to add atom HB to the hydrogen
database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb   
 file
 You might need to add atom HC to the hydrogen
database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)

.
.
.
.
.
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449

Fatal error:
There were 30 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if you want
to use this incomplete topology anyhow, use the option-missing
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please   
 check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Thanks.

Sundar Jubilant


 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF


  On 20/04/2012 2:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:
Dear gmx-users,

I am new to Gromacs and trying to simulate a protein with a 
   heme group using CHARMM27 ff in Gromacs 4.5.3. I havereceived 
the following error while running pdb2gmx .
  

When asking for help, please give your full command lines and/or
interactive selections so that we can know more context.



WARNING: atom HA is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb   
 file
 You might need to add atom HA to the hydrogen
database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb   
 file
 You might need to add atom HB to the hydrogen
database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb   
 file
 You might need to add atom HC to the hydrogen
database of building block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)

.
.
.
.
.
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449

Fatal error:
There were 30 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if you want
to use this incomplete topology anyhow, use the option-missing
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please   
 check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Can anyone help how can I generate and add hydrogen database
information for heme to be used with CHARMM27 ff?


  You'll have to read the applicable sections of manual chapter 
 5, make a local copy of the charmm27.ff folder in your working  
directory and editing aminoacids.hdb to add the generation  
information. When you're done, please post your efforts so  that others 
might be able to benefit from them in future.  (Also, search first in 
case this has already happened!)
  
  Mark
  
 
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[gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF

2012-04-19 Thread Sundar Jubilant
Dear gmx-users,

I am new to Gromacs and trying to simulate a protein with a heme group using 
CHARMM27 ff in Gromacs 4.5.3. I have received the following error while running 
pdb2gmx .

WARNING: atom HA is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom HA to the hydrogen database of building 
block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom HB to the hydrogen database of building 
block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue HEM 513 in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom HC to the hydrogen database of building 
block HEME
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)

.
.
.
.
.
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449

Fatal error:
There were 30 missing atoms in molecule Protein, if you want to use this 
incomplete topology anyhow, use the option -missing
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

Can anyone help how can I generate and add hydrogen database information for 
heme to be used with CHARMM27 ff?

Thanks,

Sundar Jubilant
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