[gmx-users] Re: Dielectric constant calculation with Gromacs-3.3.1

2012-03-09 Thread Liang
Hi David~ Thanks for your quick reply. Just want to make sure, the inf in the
following message you posted before means setting epsilon_surface to be 0
(default value) in mdp file? Thanks again! - Liang

http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2002-March/001089.html

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[gmx-users] Dielectric constant calculation with Gromacs-3.3.1

2012-03-09 Thread Liang Shi
Hi~

I am going to calculate the dielectric constant of rigid water model, but I
am not quite sure about the use of boundary condition. I know there is an
option "epsilon_surface", and its default number is 0. I am using PME to
calculate electrostatic interaction. From the literature and the mailing
list, it seems there are 2 following options:

1. set epsilon_surface to be its default value 0, and use g_dipoles to
calculate the dielectric constant.

2. set epsilon_surface to be inf (someone calls this conducting boundary
condition), and use g_dipoles to calculate the dielectric constant. Here I
am not sure which option I should use. epsilon_RF seems just to work with
reaction field method, not PME. But I don't see any option for PME.

And I am not sure what formula is used for the dielectric constant in
Gromacs:
Let a = (4*pi*) / (3*k*T*V) in Gaussian unit assuming =0

For case 1: it seems to be: epsilon = 1/(1-a)

For case 2: it seems to be: epsilon = 1+a

And finally I think these two cases (epsilon_surface in MD and
corresponding formula) should give very close answer. But I am not sure
which way is better. Could any one please help me sort this out? And I am
using Gromacs-3.3.1.

Thanks,
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Re: [gmx-users] Limit on energygrp_table

2011-11-29 Thread Liu, Liang
While, is it needed to list all the possible interacting (two) atoms
in the energygrp_table
option? I have more than 3000 possible two-atom pairs, corresponding to
more than 3000 table_*.xvg files.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:

>  On 30/11/2011 5:25 PM, Liu, Liang wrote:
>
> The error shows as "An input file contains a line longer than 4095
> characters, while the buffer passed to fgets2 has size 4095."
>
>
> No text table file needs a line this long. We still don't have information
> from you, but I expect you have a malformed file.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Mark Abraham 
> wrote:
>
>>  On 30/11/2011 5:09 PM, Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>  I am trying to use tabulated potentials in my simulation. However,
>> there is a limit on energygrp_table and the grompp reports error.
>>
>>
>>  What error?
>>
>>
>>  The interaction happens between any two of atoms, and their might be
>> more than 3000 possible couples.
>> What should I do to remove the limit? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>  We don't know what limit you are observing.
>>
>> Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Limit on energygrp_table

2011-11-29 Thread Liu, Liang
The error shows as "An input file contains a line longer than 4095
characters, while the buffer passed to fgets2 has size 4095."

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:

>  On 30/11/2011 5:09 PM, Liu, Liang wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>  I am trying to use tabulated potentials in my simulation. However, there
> is a limit on energygrp_table and the grompp reports error.
>
>
> What error?
>
>
>  The interaction happens between any two of atoms, and their might be
> more than 3000 possible couples.
> What should I do to remove the limit? Thanks.
>
>
> We don't know what limit you are observing.
>
> Mark
>
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[gmx-users] Limit on energygrp_table

2011-11-29 Thread Liu, Liang
Dear all,

I am trying to use tabulated potentials in my simulation. However, there is
a limit on energygrp_table and the grompp reports error.
The interaction happens between any two of atoms, and their might be more
than 3000 possible couples.
What should I do to remove the limit? Thanks.

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[gmx-users] what's the math algorithm?

2011-11-17 Thread Liu, Liang
Dear all,

Assuming I have a some tabulated potentials, table.xvg, tablep.xvg,
table_P_P.xvg, table_P_C.xvg and so on.
Also there are non-zero values in the first column of both table.xvg and
tablep.xvg; while the first column (x), the six column (h(x)) and the last
column (h'(x)) have non-zero numbers.
All other columns have only 0. So what's the math behind it? Thanks.

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Re: [gmx-users] calculate potential with tabulated non-bonded interactions

2011-11-17 Thread Liu, Liang
Well my first question is: if the pdb2gmx command must take a force file? I
guess it should be necessary. Then the available list contains amber and
others, but not user-specified potential. This will affect the future
simulation or calculation?

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Well, I already have the xvg files from others. However I don't know how
>> to use it.
>>
>>
> Start with the manual, where modifications to the topology and relevant
> commands and files are described.  Then refer to the how-to online, which
> has specific instructions.  Then, ask specific questions of problems you
> are having.  I doubt anyone on this list will be able or willing to guess
> where your problems are at this point.
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Justin A. Lemkul > jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I am trying to calculate potentials for RNA structures with a
>>serial of tabulated potentials (non-bonded).
>>And the only potential I am going to use is the tabulated
>>potentials, and the effect from force field should be removed.
>>However, when I use pdb2gmx to build the topology file, I have
>>to choose a force field. What should I do for that? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>It sounds like you need to be constructing your own force field,
>>completely, from scratch.  If you're not looking to use the existing
>>force fields, this sounds like the only real solution.  You can take
>>the time to make .xvg files for bonded and nonbonded interactions
>>(see the manual), but that is probably just as much work and your
>>simulations will be much slower.
>>
>>-Justin
>>
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Re: [gmx-users] calculate potential with tabulated non-bonded interactions

2011-11-17 Thread Liu, Liang
Well, I already have the xvg files from others. However I don't know how to
use it.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am trying to calculate potentials for RNA structures with a serial of
>> tabulated potentials (non-bonded).
>> And the only potential I am going to use is the tabulated potentials, and
>> the effect from force field should be removed.
>> However, when I use pdb2gmx to build the topology file, I have to choose
>> a force field. What should I do for that? Thanks.
>>
>>
> It sounds like you need to be constructing your own force field,
> completely, from scratch.  If you're not looking to use the existing force
> fields, this sounds like the only real solution.  You can take the time to
> make .xvg files for bonded and nonbonded interactions (see the manual), but
> that is probably just as much work and your simulations will be much slower.
>
> -Justin
>
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[gmx-users] calculate potential with tabulated non-bonded interactions

2011-11-17 Thread Liu, Liang
Dear all,

I am trying to calculate potentials for RNA structures with a serial of
tabulated potentials (non-bonded).
And the only potential I am going to use is the tabulated potentials, and
the effect from force field should be removed.
However, when I use pdb2gmx to build the topology file, I have to choose a
force field. What should I do for that? Thanks.

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[gmx-users] calculate potentials of structure

2011-11-16 Thread Liu, Liang
Dear all,

I am wondering if there is a way to calculate the potential of a given RNA
structure? No minimization, no simulation, but calculate the potential.

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Re: [gmx-users] about tabulated potentials

2011-11-15 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks, I will try to figure it out.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

>  On 16/11/2011 2:45 PM, Liu, Liang wrote:
>
> Thanks for help.
> If I have more atoms and they can interact each other or itself, like PP,
> PC, PN, CP, CN, CC  How's the energygrp_table looking like?
> I know there should be a option in the grompp, but how to do that?
>
>
> See manual sections 7.3.12 and 6.7.2.
>
>
>  And how to generate the index file? I am sorry for so many questions, I
> am really not familiar with it.
>
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/Index_File
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Sikandar Mashayak 
> wrote:
>
>> >From your system information, I understand that you need to specify
>> tabulated potentials between atoms P and P, and between atoms C and P, and
>> so on.
>>
>> To achieve this, you need to create energy groups with atom types P and
>> C, and specify energygrp_table options in the grompp such as following
>>
>> 
>>
>> energygrps = P C ; (and rest of the groups in your system, you will need
>> to specify index file containing energy groups )
>> energygrp_table = P P P C
>>
>> 
>>
>> so now mdrun looks for table_P_P.xvg and table_P_C.xvg in the run
>> directory, and uses it for P-P and P-C interactions, whereas for all other
>> interactions default table.xvg file is used.
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sikandar
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Liu, Liang  wrote:
>>
>>>  I am trying to use a serial of tabulated potentials, which are the
>>> functions of the distance between atoms and the names are table.xvg,
>>> table_P_P.xvg, table_C_P.xvg, etc., to do the energy minimization of some
>>> RNA structures.
>>> The procedure I apply is as following:
>>>
>>>   pdb2gmx -f rna.pdb -o conf.pdb -ff amber03 -water spce
>>> editconf -bt octahedron -f conf.pdb -o box.pdb -d 1.0
>>> genbox -cp box.pdb -cs spc216 -o water.pdb -p topol.top
>>> grompp -f em.mdp -c water.pdb -p topol.top -o em.tpr -maxwarn 2
>>> mdrun -v -s em.tpr -c em.pdb -table table.xvg
>>>
>>>  And the em.mdp file is:
>>>  cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp; Preprocessor
>>> include =  -I../top; Directories to include
>>> in the topology format
>>> define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
>>> integrator  =  steep   ; Algorithm options
>>> dt  =  0.002; ps ! ; run control, the time
>>> step
>>> nsteps  =  1000; run steps, simulation
>>> length = dt*nsteps
>>> nstenergy   =  10  ; Write energies to disk
>>> every nstenergy steps
>>> nstxtcout   =  10  ; Write coordinates to
>>> disk every nstxtcout steps
>>> xtc_grps=  RNA ; Which coordinate
>>> group(s) to write to disk
>>> energygrps  =  RNA ; Whici energy group(s)
>>> to write to disk
>>> nstlist =  10  ; Frequency to update the
>>> neighbor list and long range forces
>>>  ns_type =  grid; Method to determine
>>> neighbor list and long range forces (simple, grid)
>>> rlist   =  1.0 ; Cut-off for making
>>> neighbor list (short range forces)
>>> vdw-type=  user
>>> coulombtype =  user; Treatment of long range
>>> electrostatic interactions
>>> rcoulomb=  1.0 ; long range
>>> electrostatic cut-off
>>> rvdw=  1.0 ; long range Van der
>>> Walls cut-off
>>> constraints =  none
>>> pbc =  xyz
>>> emtol   =  5000.0
>>> emstep  =  0.01
>>>
>>>  All the procedure and file are right? Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [gmx-users] about tabulated potentials

2011-11-15 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks for help.
If I have more atoms and they can interact each other or itself, like PP,
PC, PN, CP, CN, CC  How's the energygrp_table looking like?
I know there should be a option in the grompp, but how to do that? And how
to generate the index file? I am sorry for so many questions, I am really
not familiar with it.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Sikandar Mashayak wrote:

> >From your system information, I understand that you need to specify
> tabulated potentials between atoms P and P, and between atoms C and P, and
> so on.
>
> To achieve this, you need to create energy groups with atom types P and C,
> and specify energygrp_table options in the grompp such as following
>
> 
>
> energygrps = P C ; (and rest of the groups in your system, you will need
> to specify index file containing energy groups )
> energygrp_table = P P P C
>
> 
>
> so now mdrun looks for table_P_P.xvg and table_P_C.xvg in the run
> directory, and uses it for P-P and P-C interactions, whereas for all other
> interactions default table.xvg file is used.
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Regards
> Sikandar
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Liu, Liang  wrote:
>
>> I am trying to use a serial of tabulated potentials, which are the
>> functions of the distance between atoms and the names are table.xvg,
>> table_P_P.xvg, table_C_P.xvg, etc., to do the energy minimization of some
>> RNA structures.
>> The procedure I apply is as following:
>>
>> pdb2gmx -f rna.pdb -o conf.pdb -ff amber03 -water spce
>> editconf -bt octahedron -f conf.pdb -o box.pdb -d 1.0
>> genbox -cp box.pdb -cs spc216 -o water.pdb -p topol.top
>> grompp -f em.mdp -c water.pdb -p topol.top -o em.tpr -maxwarn 2
>> mdrun -v -s em.tpr -c em.pdb -table table.xvg
>>
>> And the em.mdp file is:
>> cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp; Preprocessor
>> include =  -I../top; Directories to include
>> in the topology format
>> define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
>> integrator  =  steep   ; Algorithm options
>> dt  =  0.002; ps ! ; run control, the time
>> step
>> nsteps  =  1000; run steps, simulation
>> length = dt*nsteps
>> nstenergy   =  10  ; Write energies to disk
>> every nstenergy steps
>> nstxtcout   =  10  ; Write coordinates to
>> disk every nstxtcout steps
>> xtc_grps=  RNA ; Which coordinate
>> group(s) to write to disk
>> energygrps  =  RNA ; Whici energy group(s) to
>> write to disk
>> nstlist =  10  ; Frequency to update the
>> neighbor list and long range forces
>> ns_type =  grid; Method to determine
>> neighbor list and long range forces (simple, grid)
>> rlist   =  1.0 ; Cut-off for making
>> neighbor list (short range forces)
>> vdw-type=  user
>> coulombtype =  user; Treatment of long range
>> electrostatic interactions
>> rcoulomb=  1.0     ; long range electrostatic
>> cut-off
>> rvdw=  1.0 ; long range Van der Walls
>> cut-off
>> constraints =  none
>> pbc =  xyz
>> emtol   =  5000.0
>> emstep  =  0.01
>>
>> All the procedure and file are right? Thanks.
>>
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[gmx-users] about tabulated potentials

2011-11-15 Thread Liu, Liang
I am trying to use a serial of tabulated potentials, which are the
functions of the distance between atoms and the names are table.xvg,
table_P_P.xvg, table_C_P.xvg, etc., to do the energy minimization of some
RNA structures.
The procedure I apply is as following:

pdb2gmx -f rna.pdb -o conf.pdb -ff amber03 -water spce
editconf -bt octahedron -f conf.pdb -o box.pdb -d 1.0
genbox -cp box.pdb -cs spc216 -o water.pdb -p topol.top
grompp -f em.mdp -c water.pdb -p topol.top -o em.tpr -maxwarn 2
mdrun -v -s em.tpr -c em.pdb -table table.xvg

And the em.mdp file is:
cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp; Preprocessor
include =  -I../top; Directories to include in
the topology format
define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
integrator  =  steep   ; Algorithm options
dt  =  0.002; ps ! ; run control, the time step
nsteps  =  1000; run steps, simulation
length = dt*nsteps
nstenergy   =  10  ; Write energies to disk
every nstenergy steps
nstxtcout   =  10  ; Write coordinates to disk
every nstxtcout steps
xtc_grps=  RNA ; Which coordinate group(s)
to write to disk
energygrps  =  RNA ; Whici energy group(s) to
write to disk
nstlist =  10  ; Frequency to update the
neighbor list and long range forces
ns_type =  grid; Method to determine
neighbor list and long range forces (simple, grid)
rlist   =  1.0 ; Cut-off for making
neighbor list (short range forces)
vdw-type=  user
coulombtype =  user; Treatment of long range
electrostatic interactions
rcoulomb=  1.0 ; long range electrostatic
cut-off
rvdw=  1.0 ; long range Van der Walls
cut-off
constraints =  none
pbc =  xyz
emtol   =  5000.0
emstep  =  0.01

All the procedure and file are right? Thanks.

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Re: [gmx-users] import force field

2011-11-15 Thread Liu, Liang
The tabulated potentials I am using is non-bonded interactions. The
question is the application of these potentials will only modify the force
field, e.g. amber03, or will take place of the force field?



On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

>  On 15/11/2011 9:33 AM, Liu, Liang wrote:
>
> I have a serial of tabulated potentials with the name of *.xvg, which are
> the function of atom distance.
> I am wondering how to use them in gromacs simulation? Will that replace
> the force field, e.g. amber03? Thanks.
>
>
> There are sections in the manual that describe the use of tabulated
> potentials for either bonded or non-bonded interactions. Such tables modify
> the force field in the expected manner.
>
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Re: [gmx-users] how to select option for genion command automatically?

2011-11-14 Thread Liu, Liang
Yes, I found it. THanks.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Terry  wrote:

>
> This is what you are looking for:
>
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Using_Commands_in_Scripts?highlight=scripting
>
> Terry
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Liu, Liang  wrote:
>
>> I am wondering if there is a flag to make the command select SOL
>> automatically instead of pressing some number each time? I have thousands
>> of structures, it is really time-consuming to select one by one.
>>
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[gmx-users] how to select option for genion command automatically?

2011-11-14 Thread Liu, Liang
I am wondering if there is a flag to make the command select SOL
automatically instead of pressing some number each time? I have thousands
of structures, it is really time-consuming to select one by one.

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[gmx-users] import force field

2011-11-14 Thread Liu, Liang
I have a serial of tabulated potentials with the name of *.xvg, which are
the function of atom distance.
I am wondering how to use them in gromacs simulation? Will that replace the
force field, e.g. amber03? Thanks.

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Re: [gmx-users] GMX to remove clashes?

2011-11-14 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks.

Do you know how to use a new force field, not amber or charm, but a force
field built by someone else, and it's already in Gromacs format (tons of
xvg file, right?)

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> This is a "reasonable" answer :)
>>
>> Thanks for that, and I just tried Gromacs for minimization, and looks the
>> final structure does not have clashes anymore, and also are very close to
>> the initial structure.
>>
>> Another question is if there is a way to add ions automatically, meaning
>> no need to check the "NOTE" of "System has non-zero total charge" in the
>> output of grompp command? And also update the topology file automatically
>> too?
>>
>>
> That depends on the system.  For a simple solute in water, the running
> total charge of the solute is recorded in the qtot column of the .top file.
>  If you have a complex system with lots of charged things, no, there is no
> convenient way to get the charge aside from calculating it by hand or
> reading the grompp output.
>
> The topology can be modified automatically by genion after ions are added
> by using the -p flag.
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Justin A. Lemkul > jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>Hi, all,
>>I am wondering if Gromacs can do the following work?
>>
>>Assuming I have a pdb file of an RNA molecule. Some atoms may be
>>too close or even overlap, I am wondering if Gromacs can move
>>the atoms to reasonable positions and remove the bad contacts?
>>The final structure is supposed to be the "most" stable
>>structure with minimal energy. I know AMBER minimization can do
>>this work, and I am wondering if Gromacs can do the same?
>>
>>
>>Gromacs is perfectly capable of energy minimization.  Whether or not
>>minimization succeeds and gives a reasonable output is mostly
>>dependent upon the feasibility of the starting structure.  If the
>>minimization crashes, it's not Gromacs' fault ;)
>>
>>-Justin
>>
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Re: [gmx-users] GMX to remove clashes?

2011-11-14 Thread Liu, Liang
This is a "reasonable" answer :)

Thanks for that, and I just tried Gromacs for minimization, and looks the
final structure does not have clashes anymore, and also are very close to
the initial structure.

Another question is if there is a way to add ions automatically, meaning no
need to check the "NOTE" of "System has non-zero total charge" in the
output of grompp command? And also update the topology file automatically
too?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Hi, all,
>> I am wondering if Gromacs can do the following work?
>>
>> Assuming I have a pdb file of an RNA molecule. Some atoms may be too
>> close or even overlap, I am wondering if Gromacs can move the atoms to
>> reasonable positions and remove the bad contacts? The final structure is
>> supposed to be the "most" stable structure with minimal energy. I know
>> AMBER minimization can do this work, and I am wondering if Gromacs can do
>> the same?
>>
>>
> Gromacs is perfectly capable of energy minimization.  Whether or not
> minimization succeeds and gives a reasonable output is mostly dependent
> upon the feasibility of the starting structure.  If the minimization
> crashes, it's not Gromacs' fault ;)
>
> -Justin
>
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[gmx-users] GMX to remove clashes?

2011-11-14 Thread Liu, Liang
Hi, all,
I am wondering if Gromacs can do the following work?

Assuming I have a pdb file of an RNA molecule. Some atoms may be too close
or even overlap, I am wondering if Gromacs can move the atoms to reasonable
positions and remove the bad contacts? The final structure is supposed to
be the "most" stable structure with minimal energy. I know AMBER
minimization can do this work, and I am wondering if Gromacs can do the
same?

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Re: [gmx-users] How to obtain structures with large RMSD?

2011-10-10 Thread Liu, Liang
Well, the thing is even I turn off the position restraint and raise the
temperature to 600k, the RMSD I can obtained is only about 0.3 for a RNA
hairpin.
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Re: [gmx-users] How to obtain structures with large RMSD?

2011-10-10 Thread Liu, Liang
Well, I am only trying to get structures with some of them far from the
initial structure (large RMSD) and some of them close to the initial one...

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

> Hi Liang Liu,
>
> You will never get broader sampling by adding restraints. If you want
> to have broader sampling, raise the temperature or add denaturants.
> But also ask yourself the question if what you think you want is what
> you should be wanting. What is the actual question you're trying to
> solve?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tsjerk
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Liu, Liang  wrote:
> > How's position restraint? If the force constant is reduced (reduce the
> > number in posre.itp ?), the simulation will lead to more flexible
> structure?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Justin A. Lemkul 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Liu, Liang wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Will the constrain help?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Bond constraints?  Well, in general, they're useful, and likely
> necessary
> >> at high temperature to keep your system stable.  Please be more
> specific.
> >>
> >> -Justin
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Justin A. Lemkul  >>> <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Liu, Liang wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi, all,
> >>>
> >>>I am trying to use Gromacs to obtain structural ensembles around
> >>>native structures (PDB structures).
> >>>However the simulated structures are always very close to the
> >>>initial one, with RMSD < 0.2.
> >>>I am wondering how to obtain large-RMSD structures? Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Large RMSD values would indicate non-native structures, which
> >>>doesn't sound like what you're looking for.  If your goal is simply
> >>>enhanced sampling, try REMD.
> >>>
> >>>-Justin
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Re: [gmx-users] How to obtain structures with large RMSD?

2011-10-10 Thread Liu, Liang
How's position restraint? If the force constant is reduced (reduce the
number in posre.itp ?), the simulation will lead to more flexible structure?

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Will the constrain help?
>>
>>
> Bond constraints?  Well, in general, they're useful, and likely necessary
> at high temperature to keep your system stable.  Please be more specific.
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Justin A. Lemkul > jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>Hi, all,
>>
>>I am trying to use Gromacs to obtain structural ensembles around
>>native structures (PDB structures).
>>However the simulated structures are always very close to the
>>initial one, with RMSD < 0.2.
>>I am wondering how to obtain large-RMSD structures? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>Large RMSD values would indicate non-native structures, which
>>doesn't sound like what you're looking for.  If your goal is simply
>>enhanced sampling, try REMD.
>>
>>-Justin
>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [gmx-users] How to obtain structures with large RMSD?

2011-10-10 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks.

Will the constrain help?

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> Liu, Liang wrote:
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>> Hi, all,
>>
>> I am trying to use Gromacs to obtain structural ensembles around native
>> structures (PDB structures).
>> However the simulated structures are always very close to the initial one,
>> with RMSD < 0.2.
>> I am wondering how to obtain large-RMSD structures? Thanks.
>>
>>
> Large RMSD values would indicate non-native structures, which doesn't sound
> like what you're looking for.  If your goal is simply enhanced sampling, try
> REMD.
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[gmx-users] How to obtain structures with large RMSD?

2011-10-10 Thread Liu, Liang
Hi, all,

I am trying to use Gromacs to obtain structural ensembles around native
structures (PDB structures).
However the simulated structures are always very close to the initial one,
with RMSD < 0.2.
I am wondering how to obtain large-RMSD structures? Thanks.

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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-29 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks. Actually I applied just because the tutorial said so :(

What I need is the structures only, I googled, but did not obtain useful
information about Gromacs with REMD. Maybe I need to read the manual again
:(

I am totally fresh to MD simulation, just worked on this for 1 week ...

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

>  On 30/09/2011 2:50 AM, Liu, Liang wrote:
>
> After running for more than 12 hours, the REMD simulation is completed and
> what I get is 50 log, 50 trr, 50 cpt and 50 tpr files.
>
>
> Yep. One for each simulation.
>
>
>  Not sure if the result is reasonable.
>
>
> Justin told you yesterday they would not be, because you have made a number
> of totally arbitrary choices.
>
>
>  I tried to analyze the result, and after applying demux.pl, two
> files replica_index.xvg  replica_temp.xvg are obtained.
>
>
> Why did you want to demux?
>
>
>  My question is how to obtain the structure information? (I will need pdb
> file).
>
>
> Do all the tutorial material you can find - even if not strictly relevant -
> to get an idea about good workflows. Then try to replicate (part of) a
> published REMD study to see how things work there. Search the web and check
> out the GROMACS web page - there's lots of material out there. Stabbing in
> the dark is a great way to waste your time, and people here don't have the
> time to teach every person every thing.
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-29 Thread Liu, Liang
After running for more than 12 hours, the REMD simulation is completed and
what I get is 50 log, 50 trr, 50 cpt and 50 tpr files.
Not sure if the result is reasonable.

I tried to analyze the result, and after applying demux.pl, two
files replica_index.xvg  replica_temp.xvg are obtained.

My question is how to obtain the structure information? (I will need pdb
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-29 Thread Liu, Liang
After running for more than 12 hours, the REMD simulation is completed and
what I get is 50 log, 50 trr, 50 cpt and 50 tpr files.
Not sure if the result is reasonable.

I tried to analyze the result, and after applying demux.pl, two
files replica_index.xvg  replica_temp.xvg are obtained.

My question is how to obtain the structure information? (I will need pdb
file).

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Manuel Prinz wrote:

> Am Do, 29.09.2011, 01:38 schrieb Mark Abraham:
> > If the MPI configuration allows physical processors to be
> > over-allocated, then GROMACS is none the wiser.
>
> Over-allocation is the default in Open MPI[1]. So it's technically
> possible to run 50 MPI processes on 2 cores. Whether or not this is a good
> idea is left on as an exercise to the reader. ;)
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> [1] When not run from a resource manager that takes care of setting the
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
Not know. I will update the result tomorrow, as the 5 steps take really
long time :(

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

> On 29/09/2011 7:20 AM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, they are updated like:
>>> ...
>>> Replica exchange at step 5700 time 11.4
>>> Repl ex  01 x  23 x  45 x  6789 x 10   11 x 12
>>> 13   14   15 x 16   17 x 18   19 x 20   21 x 22   23   24   25 x 26   27
>>> 28   29 x 30   31   32   33 x 34   35   36   37 x 38   39   40   41 x 42
>>> 43 x 44   45 x 46   47   48   49
>>> Repl pr1.0   1.0   1.0   .00   1.0   1.0
>>>   .00   1.0   1.0   1.0   1.0   .00   1.0   .00
>>>   1.0   .00   1.0   .00   .46   .00   1.0
>>> .78   1.0   .00
>>>
>>> Replica exchange at step 5750 time 11.5
>>> Repl 0 <-> 1  dE = -7.583e+00
>>> Repl ex  0 x  1234 x  56 x  78 x  9   10 x 11   12 x
>>> 13   14 x 15   16 x 17   18 x 19   20   21   22   23   24 x 25   26   27
>>> 28 x 29   30   31   32 x 33   34   35   36   37   38   39   40 x 41   42 x
>>> 43   44   45   46   47   48   49
>>> Repl pr   1.0   .00   1.0   1.0   1.0   1.0   1.0
>>>   1.0   1.0   1.0   .48   .11   1.0   .00
>>> 1.0   .00   1.0   .00   .00   .01   1.0   1.0
>>> .00   .01   .01
>>>
>>>   Step   Time Lambda
>>>   5800   11.60.0
>>>
>>>   Energies (kJ/mol)
>>>  AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14
>>> Coulomb-14
>>>9.69806e+021.32207e+033.34938e+014.93171e+02
>>> -3.9e+03
>>>LJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip. Position
>>> Rest.
>>>3.14374e+04   -6.42258e+02   -1.88529e+05   -2.01604e+04
>>>  0.0e+00
>>>  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy  Conserved En.
>>>  Temperature
>>>   -1.78987e+054.57462e+04   -1.33240e+051.23302e+10
>>>  5.62201e+02
>>>  Pres. DC (bar) Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
>>>   -2.12803e+02   -5.47109e+022.21484e-05
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>> Perhaps someone else can offer an explanation.  It should not be possible
>> to run multiple replicas on a single processor.  Also note that your
>> exchange probability is extremely high; you're likely not obtaining
>> meaningful sampling.
>>
>
> If the MPI configuration allows physical processors to be over-allocated,
> then GROMACS is none the wiser.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>> -Justin
>>
>>  On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Justin A. Lemkul >> jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks. currently what I see is the program runs very slowly,
>>>but get .log file for all the 50 replicas, does this mean all of
>>>them are running?
>>>
>>>
>>>Are the log files being updated, or do they all simply contain a
>>>fatal error message that there are insufficient nodes?  I cannot
>>>think of a reason why 50 simulations could possibly run on 2
>>> processors.
>>>
>>>-Justin
>>>
>>>On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>> mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
>>> <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Liu, Liang wrote:
>>>
>>>   Well, although this makes sense, why all the 50 replicas
>>> are
>>>   running when I run "mpirun
>>> -np 50 mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -multi 50 -replex 50" on
>>>my own
>>>   computer with only 2 cores?
>>>
>>>
>>>   I can offer no explanation for this behavior, but I expect that
>>>   either not all of them are actually running, or at the very
>>> least
>>>   you will get horribly slow performance.
>>>
>>>
>>>   By the way, would you please show me where I can find the
>>>   reasonable replex number information in the literature?
>>> I did
>>>   not find it in the link you posted and th

Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
Yes, they are updated like:
...
Replica exchange at step 5700 time 11.4
Repl ex  01 x  23 x  45 x  6789 x 10   11 x 12   13
  14   15 x 16   17 x 18   19 x 20   21 x 22   23   24   25 x 26   27   28
29 x 30   31   32   33 x 34   35   36   37 x 38   39   40   41 x 42   43 x
44   45 x 46   47   48   49
Repl pr1.0   1.0   1.0   .00   1.0   1.0
.00   1.0   1.0   1.0   1.0   .00   1.0   .00
1.0   .00   1.0   .00   .46   .00   1.0
.78   1.0   .00

Replica exchange at step 5750 time 11.5
Repl 0 <-> 1  dE = -7.583e+00
Repl ex  0 x  1234 x  56 x  78 x  9   10 x 11   12 x 13
  14 x 15   16 x 17   18 x 19   20   21   22   23   24 x 25   26   27   28 x
29   30   31   32 x 33   34   35   36   37   38   39   40 x 41   42 x 43
44   45   46   47   48   49
Repl pr   1.0   .00   1.0   1.0   1.0   1.0   1.0
1.0   1.0   1.0   .48   .11   1.0   .00
1.0   .00   1.0   .00   .00   .01   1.0   1.0
.00   .01   .01

   Step   Time Lambda
   5800   11.60.0

   Energies (kJ/mol)
  AngleProper Dih.  Improper Dih.  LJ-14 Coulomb-14
9.69806e+021.32207e+033.34938e+014.93171e+02   -3.9e+03
LJ (SR)  Disper. corr.   Coulomb (SR)   Coul. recip. Position Rest.
3.14374e+04   -6.42258e+02   -1.88529e+05   -2.01604e+040.0e+00
  PotentialKinetic En.   Total Energy  Conserved En.Temperature
   -1.78987e+054.57462e+04   -1.33240e+051.23302e+105.62201e+02
 Pres. DC (bar) Pressure (bar)   Constr. rmsd
   -2.12803e+02   -5.47109e+022.21484e-05
...

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Thanks. currently what I see is the program runs very slowly, but get .log
>> file for all the 50 replicas, does this mean all of them are running?
>>
>>
> Are the log files being updated, or do they all simply contain a fatal
> error message that there are insufficient nodes?  I cannot think of a reason
> why 50 simulations could possibly run on 2 processors.
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkul > jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>Well, although this makes sense, why all the 50 replicas are
>>running when I run "mpirun
>>  -np 50 mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -multi 50 -replex 50" on my own
>>computer with only 2 cores?
>>
>>
>>I can offer no explanation for this behavior, but I expect that
>>either not all of them are actually running, or at the very least
>>you will get horribly slow performance.
>>
>>
>>By the way, would you please show me where I can find the
>>reasonable replex number information in the literature?  I did
>>not find it in the link you posted and the manual either.
>>
>>
>>A few minutes of real literature searching will be far more valuable
>>than some random person on the Internet giving you a value that you
>>blindly use ;)
>>
>>-Justin
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks. currently what I see is the program runs very slowly, but get .log
file for all the 50 replicas, does this mean all of them are running?

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Well, although this makes sense, why all the 50 replicas are running when
>> I run "mpirun
>>   -np 50 mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -multi 50 -replex 50" on my own computer
>> with only 2 cores?
>>
>>
> I can offer no explanation for this behavior, but I expect that either not
> all of them are actually running, or at the very least you will get horribly
> slow performance.
>
>
>  By the way, would you please show me where I can find the reasonable
>> replex number information in the literature?  I did not find it in the link
>> you posted and the manual either.
>>
>>
> A few minutes of real literature searching will be far more valuable than
> some random person on the Internet giving you a value that you blindly use
> ;)
>
> -Justin
>
>  Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
Well, although this makes sense, why all the 50 replicas are running when I
run "mpirun
   -np 50 mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -multi 50 -replex 50" on my own computer
with only 2 cores?

By the way, would you please show me where I can find the reasonable replex
number information in the literature?  I did not find it in the link you
posted and the manual either.

Thanks.


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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
So if my personal computer have 2 cores, the np should be set to 2? Does it
relate to -multi?

How to choose a reasonable number for -replex? the smaller the better?

Thanks again.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> This works. Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Currently I am running on an RNA molecule and I want to a 1 ns REMD
>> simulations with 50 temperatures,
>> would you please have a look at the following command "mpirun -np 50
>> mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -multi 50 -replex 50". Is this right?
>> How to choose the numbers for np, multi or replex?
>>
>>
> Current Gromacs versions allow more than one processor per REMD simulation.
> Please refer to the link I provided before for specifics.  You need all of
> the replicas to run at roughly the same speed so the number of processors
> per simulation should be the same.
>
>
>  Is the simulation time still set in the mdp file with nsteps and dt? e.g.
>> nsteps = 50 and dt = 0.002 to run a 1ns simulation?
>>
>>
> It's just like any other simulation in this regard.
>
> -Justin
>
>  Any helps will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Justin A. Lemkul > jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for the information. I installed the mpi version with
>>"sudo apt-get install gromacs-openmpi" under Ubuntu.
>>
>>Then run "mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -replex 10 -multi 10"?  Another
>>error appears, "The number of nodes (1) is not a multiple of the
>>number of simulations (10)". What is this for?
>>
>>
>>You have to run mdrun_mpi as a process under mpirun, e.g.:
>>
>>mpirun -np 10 mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr (etc)
>>
>>-Justin
>>
>>On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
>><mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>   Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>   Does that mean I have to use MPI? I got an error "mdrun
>>-multi
>>   is not supported with the thread library.Please compile
>>GROMACS
>>   with MPI support" after run "mdrun -s md.tpr -multi 10
>>-replex 10"
>>
>>
>>   Per the error message, yes.
>>
>>   -Justin
>>
>>   On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>   mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
>><mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>
>>   <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
>><mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>  Hi everyone,
>>  I tried to use Gromacs to run REMD simulation.
>>  Firstly a set of (md#).mdp file are make and the
>>grompp
>>   command
>>  can generate the same amount of (md#).tpr file.
>>  Assume # = 10,
>>  then I tried to run REMD as mdrun -s md.tpr -np 10
>>   -replex 10.
>>
>>  However, a fetal error shows as "Need at least two
>>   replicas for
>>  replica exchange (option -multi)", what is this
>>for? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>  You have to use the -multi flag.  Otherwise all mdrun
>>does is run
>>  md.tpr and try to do REMD with nothing.
>>
>>http://www.gromacs.org/__**
>> Documentation/How-tos/REMD#___**___Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__Execution_Steps>
>><http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/REMD#___**
>> _Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD#Execution_Steps>
>> >
>>  <http://www.gromacs.org/**
>> Documentation/How-tos/REMD#___**_Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD#Execution_Steps>
>><http://www.gromacs.org/__**Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__**
>> Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__Execution_Steps>
>> >>
>> 

Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
This works. Thanks a lot.

Currently I am running on an RNA molecule and I want to a 1 ns REMD
simulations with 50 temperatures,
would you please have a look at the following command "mpirun -np 50
mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -multi 50 -replex 50". Is this right?
How to choose the numbers for np, multi or replex?

Is the simulation time still set in the mdp file with nsteps and dt? e.g.
nsteps = 50 and dt = 0.002 to run a 1ns simulation?

Any helps will be highly appreciated.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the information. I installed the mpi version with "sudo apt-get
>> install gromacs-openmpi" under Ubuntu.
>>
>> Then run "mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -replex 10 -multi 10"?  Another error
>> appears, "The number of nodes (1) is not a multiple of the number of
>> simulations (10)". What is this for?
>>
>>
> You have to run mdrun_mpi as a process under mpirun, e.g.:
>
> mpirun -np 10 mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr (etc)
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul > jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>Does that mean I have to use MPI? I got an error "mdrun -multi
>>is not supported with the thread library.Please compile GROMACS
>>with MPI support" after run "mdrun -s md.tpr -multi 10 -replex 10"
>>
>>
>>Per the error message, yes.
>>
>>-Justin
>>
>>On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
>><mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>   Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>   Hi everyone,
>>   I tried to use Gromacs to run REMD simulation.
>>   Firstly a set of (md#).mdp file are make and the grompp
>>command
>>   can generate the same amount of (md#).tpr file.
>>   Assume # = 10,
>>   then I tried to run REMD as mdrun -s md.tpr -np 10
>>-replex 10.
>>
>>   However, a fetal error shows as "Need at least two
>>replicas for
>>   replica exchange (option -multi)", what is this for? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>   You have to use the -multi flag.  Otherwise all mdrun does is
>> run
>>   md.tpr and try to do REMD with nothing.
>>
>>  http://www.gromacs.org/**
>> Documentation/How-tos/REMD#___**_Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD#Execution_Steps>
>><http://www.gromacs.org/__**Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__**
>> Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__Execution_Steps>
>> >
>>  <http://www.gromacs.org/__**
>> Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__**Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__Execution_Steps>
>><http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/REMD#**
>> Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD#Execution_Steps>
>> >>
>>
>>   -Justin
>>
>>   -- ==**==
>>
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>>   Ph.D. Candidate
>>   ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>>   MILES-IGERT Trainee
>>   Department of Biochemistry
>>   Virginia Tech
>>   Blacksburg, VA
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>>
>>231-9080 
>>   
>>
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks for the information. I installed the mpi version with "sudo apt-get
install gromacs-openmpi" under Ubuntu.

Then run "mdrun_mpi -s md.tpr -replex 10 -multi 10"?  Another error appears,
"The number of nodes (1) is not a multiple of the number of simulations
(10)". What is this for?

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Does that mean I have to use MPI? I got an error "mdrun -multi is not
>> supported with the thread library.Please compile GROMACS with MPI support"
>> after run "mdrun -s md.tpr -multi 10 -replex 10"
>>
>>
> Per the error message, yes.
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Justin A. Lemkul > jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Liu, Liang wrote:
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>I tried to use Gromacs to run REMD simulation.
>>Firstly a set of (md#).mdp file are make and the grompp command
>>can generate the same amount of (md#).tpr file.
>>Assume # = 10,
>>then I tried to run REMD as mdrun -s md.tpr -np 10 -replex 10.
>>
>>However, a fetal error shows as "Need at least two replicas for
>>replica exchange (option -multi)", what is this for? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>You have to use the -multi flag.  Otherwise all mdrun does is run
>>md.tpr and try to do REMD with nothing.
>>
>>http://www.gromacs.org/__**Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__**
>> Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/__Documentation/How-tos/REMD#__Execution_Steps>
>>
>> <http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/REMD#**Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD#Execution_Steps>
>> >
>>
>>-Justin
>>
>>-- ==**__==
>>
>>Justin A. Lemkul
>>Ph.D. Candidate
>>ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>>MILES-IGERT Trainee
>>Department of Biochemistry
>>Virginia Tech
>>Blacksburg, VA
>>jalemkul[at]vt.edu <http://vt.edu> | (540) 231-9080
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
Does that mean I have to use MPI? I got an error "mdrun -multi is not
supported with the thread library.Please compile GROMACS with MPI support"
after run "mdrun -s md.tpr -multi 10 -replex 10"

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I tried to use Gromacs to run REMD simulation.
>> Firstly a set of (md#).mdp file are make and the grompp command can
>> generate the same amount of (md#).tpr file.
>> Assume # = 10,
>> then I tried to run REMD as mdrun -s md.tpr -np 10 -replex 10.
>>
>> However, a fetal error shows as "Need at least two replicas for replica
>> exchange (option -multi)", what is this for? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
> You have to use the -multi flag.  Otherwise all mdrun does is run md.tpr
> and try to do REMD with nothing.
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/**Documentation/How-tos/REMD#**Execution_Steps<http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/REMD#Execution_Steps>
>
> -Justin
>
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[gmx-users] REMD problem

2011-09-28 Thread Liu, Liang
Hi everyone,
I tried to use Gromacs to run REMD simulation.
Firstly a set of (md#).mdp file are make and the grompp command can generate
the same amount of (md#).tpr file.
Assume # = 10,
then I tried to run REMD as mdrun -s md.tpr -np 10 -replex 10.

However, a fetal error shows as "Need at least two replicas for replica
exchange (option -multi)", what is this for? Thanks.


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Re: [gmx-users] simulation with position constraint by a harmonic potential

2011-09-27 Thread Liu, Liang
Liu, Liang wrote:
>*  > Thanks.*>*  >*>*  > Is this position restraint same to the 
>one "Position Restrained*>* MD". I*>*  > see some tutorial shows there 
>are always three step to perform a*>*  > simulation: Energy minimization, 
>Position Restrained MD and MD*>* Simulation.*>* *>* "Always" is too 
>strong, but this is common.*>* *>*  > Is it possible to fulfill the 
>position restraint during Position*>*  > Restrained MD? Thanks.*>* *>* 
>Yes, hence the name. How well they can be fulfilled depends on the*>* 
>initial and simulation conditions.*>* *>* *>* Thanks for this information.*>* 
>But how to perform a harmonic potential to all the heavy atoms of RNA?*>* 
>Justin said this one should be adjusted in the posre.itp file, and what *>* I 
>see in the file is all 1000. Does this means k=1000 in the equation of *>* E = 
>k (r-r0)^2?*
Yes.  See my previous message.  I explained the contents of the file, which are
also discussed in the manual.

-Justin


---

perfect, thanks a lot.

Does this conflict with the bond restraint, e.g. LINCS algorithm,
during simulation?

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Re: [gmx-users] simulation with position constraint by a harmonic potential

2011-09-27 Thread Liu, Liang
It is weird why I always receive the digest of the mailing list but the
specific topic?

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Liu, Liang  wrote:

> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Is this position restraint same to the one "Position Restrained MD". I
>> > see some tutorial shows there are always three step to perform a
>> > simulation: Energy minimization, Position Restrained MD and MD
>> Simulation.
>>
>> "Always" is too strong, but this is common.
>>
>>
>> > Is it possible to fulfill the position restraint during Position
>> > Restrained MD? Thanks.
>>
>> Yes, hence the name. How well they can be fulfilled depends on the
>> initial and simulation conditions.
>>
>
> Thanks for this information.
> But how to perform a harmonic potential to all the heavy atoms of RNA?
> Justin said this one should be adjusted in the posre.itp file, and what I
> see in the file is all 1000. Does this means k=1000 in the equation of E = k
> (r-r0)^2?
> Thanks.
>
>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
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Re: [gmx-users] simulation with position constraint by a harmonic potential

2011-09-27 Thread Liu, Liang
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Is this position restraint same to the one "Position Restrained MD". I
> > see some tutorial shows there are always three step to perform a
> > simulation: Energy minimization, Position Restrained MD and MD
> Simulation.
>
> "Always" is too strong, but this is common.
>
> > Is it possible to fulfill the position restraint during Position
> > Restrained MD? Thanks.
>
> Yes, hence the name. How well they can be fulfilled depends on the
> initial and simulation conditions.
>

Thanks for this information.
But how to perform a harmonic potential to all the heavy atoms of RNA?
Justin said this one should be adjusted in the posre.itp file, and what I
see in the file is all 1000. Does this means k=1000 in the equation of E = k
(r-r0)^2?
Thanks.


>
> Mark
>

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Re: [gmx-users] simulation with position constraint by a harmonic potential

2011-09-26 Thread Liu, Liang
Thanks.

Is this position restraint same to the one "Position Restrained MD". I see
some tutorial shows there are always three step to perform a simulation: Energy
minimization, Position Restrained MD and  MD Simulation. Is it possible to
fulfill the position restraint during Position Restrained MD? Thanks.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Firstly I want to thank for your reply, yes, it should be position
>> restraint.
>>
>> I don't know how to reply in the thread, actually that was my first post.
>> Therefore I have to ask you here, hope it also work to you.
>>
>>
> Simply reply to the message.  The discussion needs to stay on the list.
>  The members are not private tutors.
>
>  My question is how to perform a position restraint simulation with the
>> heavy atom constrained to its initial position by a harmonic potential
>> E=k(r-r0)^2,
>> which changes with k equal to 0, 10, 20, ..., 90, 100, and so on?
>>
>>
> You can adjust the force constant in the posre.itp file.  There is no
> automated way of decreasing or increasing a restraint; independent
> simulations must be run on the different topologies.
>
> -Justin
>
>  Thanks, and any helps will be highly appreciated.
>>
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>>
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Re: [gmx-users] simulation with position constraint by a harmonic potential

2011-09-26 Thread Liu, Liang
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   312 1  1000  1000  1000
   313 1  1000  1000  1000
   315 1  1000  1000  1000
   317 1  1000  1000  1000
   319 1  1000  1000  1000
   320 1  1000  1000  1000
   321 1  1000  1000  1000
   322 1  1000  1000  1000
   323 1  1000  1000  1000
   324 1  1000  1000  1000
   327 1  1000  1000  1000
   329 1  1000  1000  1000
   330 1  1000  1000  1000
   332 1  1000  1000  1000
   333 1  1000  1000  1000
   335 1  1000  1000  1000
   337 1  1000  1000  1000
   338 1  1000  1000  1000
   341 1  1000  1000  1000
   342 1  1000  1000  1000
   343 1  1000  1000  1000
   344 1  1000  1000  1000
   346 1  1000  1000  1000
   348 1  1000  1000  1000
   350 1  1000  1000  1000
   351 1  1000  1000  1000
   352 1  1000  1000  1000
   353 1  1000  1000  1000
   354 1  1000  1000  1000
   355 1  1000  1000  1000
   358 1  1000  1000  1000
   360 1  1000  1000  1000
   361 1  1000  1000  1000
   363 1  1000  1000  1000
   364 1  1000  1000  1000
   366 1  1000  1000  1000
   367 1  1000  1000  1000
   368 1  1000  1000  1000
   369 1  1000  1000  1000
   372 1  1000  1000  1000
   373 1  1000  1000  1000
   375 1  1000  1000  1000
   376 1  1000  1000  1000
   377 1  1000  1000  1000
   379 1  1000  1000  1000
   381 1  1000  1000  1000
   383 1  1000  1000  1000
   384 1  1000  1000  1000
   385 1  1000  1000  1000
   386 1  1000  1000  1000
   387 1  1000  1000  1000
   388 1  1000  1000  1000
   391 1  1000  1000  1000
   393 1  1000  1000  1000
   394 1  1000  1000  1000
   396 1  1000  1000  1000
   397 1  1000  1000  1000
   399 1  1000  1000  1000
   401 1  1000  1000  1000
   402 1  1000  1000  1000
   403 1  1000  1000  1000
   405 1  1000  1000  1000
   406 1  1000  1000  1000
   407 1  1000  1000  1000
   409 1  1000  1000  1000
   411 1  1000  1000  1000
   413 1  1000  1000  1000

So how to adjust the force constraint to the harmonic poteitial E =
k(r-r0)^2, with different values of k?

I am totally a new user of Gromacs, even MD simulation. Please help, Thanks
a lot.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Justin A. Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> Liu, Liang wrote:
>
>> Firstly I want to thank for your reply, yes, it should be position
>> restraint.
>>
>> I don't know how to reply in the thread, actually that was my first post.
>> Therefore I have to ask you here, hope it also work to you.
>>
>>
> Simply reply to the message.  The discussion needs to stay on the list.
>  The members are not private tutors.
>
>  My question is how to perform a position restraint simulation with the
>> heavy atom constrained to its initial position by a harmonic potential
>> E=k(r-r0)^2,
>> which changes with k equal to 0, 10, 20, ..., 90, 100, and so on?
>>
>>
> You can adjust the force constant in the posre.itp file.  There is no
> automated w

[gmx-users] simulation with position constraint by a harmonic potential

2011-09-26 Thread Liu, Liang
I am running Gromacs for RNAs, and I got a problem during the simulation:
How to perform the simulation with each heavy atom constrained to its
initial position by a harmonic potential, E = k(r-r0)^2?

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[gmx-users] unexpexted stop of simulation

2010-11-03 Thread Hong, Liang
Dear all,
I'm performing a three-day simulation. It runs well for the first day, but 
stops for the second one. The error message is below. Does anyone know what 
might be the problem? Thanks
Liang

Program mdrun, VERSION 4.5.1-dev-20101008-e2cbc-dirty
Source code file: /home/z8g/download/gromacs.head/src/gmxlib/checkpoint.c, 
line: 1748

Fatal error:
Failed to lock: md100ns.log. Already running simulation?
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

"Sitting on a rooftop watching molecules collide" (A Camp)

Error on node 0, will try to stop all the nodes
Halting parallel program mdrun on CPU 0 out of 32

gcq#348: "Sitting on a rooftop watching molecules collide" (A Camp)

--
MPI_ABORT was invoked on rank 0 in communicator MPI_COMM_WORLD
with errorcode -1.

NOTE: invoking MPI_ABORT causes Open MPI to kill all MPI processes.
You may or may not see output from other processes, depending on
exactly when Open MPI kills them.
--
[node139:04470] [[37327,0],0]-[[37327,1],0] mca_oob_tcp_msg_recv: readv failed: 
Connection reset by peer (104)
--
mpiexec has exited due to process rank 0 with PID 4471 on
node node139 exiting without calling "finalize". This may
have caused other processes in the application to be
terminated by signals sent by mpiexec (as reported here).
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[gmx-users] who has the force field file of gromos45a4

2010-10-28 Thread Hong, Liang
Dear all,

Right now I plan to use the Gromos 45a4 force field to perform a simulation of 
carbohydrates. However, this force field is absent from the version of Gromacs 
(both Gomacs v4.0.7 and v 4.5.1) I'm using. If some one has this force field 
files, could you, please, pass to me?

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[gmx-users] coordinate file (PDB file) of cellobiose

2010-10-26 Thread Hong, Liang
Dear all,

Right now I plan to conduct a MD on Cellobiose. Is there anyone who has the 
coordinate files of alpha and beta cellobiose (including hydrogen atoms)? Could 
you, please, forward to me?

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[gmx-users] Gromos 45A4

2010-10-25 Thread Hong, Liang
Dear all, 
I have seen people using Gromos 45A4 force field to simulate sugars in Gromacs. 
But there is no such force field in the version 4.07 I'm using now. Where can I 
find the 45A4 force field? Or use some other force filed to replace it?

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[gmx-users] How to choose lipid molecules?

2007-12-13 Thread liang
Dear all,

I am a freshman to membrane  protein simulation, and i was wondering how to 
choose lipid molecules for my system.
As we know, there are lots of lipid molecules: DMPC, DPPC, POPE.
but how do people decide that which type of lipid to use? and what kinds of 
criteria should we follow?

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[gmx-users] Re: how to write the correct top file for membrane protein

2007-11-27 Thread liang

Hi Mark,

i indeed checked some publications about how to choose lipid force field,
please check this reference: Journal of Physics: Condensed Matter 18(2006) 
S1221-S1234,
Tieleman and his coworkers tested two combinations: Berger+ffgmx+SPC, 
Berger+OPLS+TIP4P,
and  they recommended that using OPLS together with united-atom lipid force 
field.
So, i would like to know whether it is reasonable or not, and how should i 
modify them in top file?


Thanks for your reply.

Liang

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liang wrote:

Dear Mark,

Thanks for your advice, but from my understanding, Berger's force field
is based on OPLS/Amber.
Lipid itp files from Tieleman's website just use the atom type
definitions from GROMOS87.
And GROMOS87 is out of fashion now.
So thats why i think it would be better to use OPLS for protein and
"ffgmx.itp" for lipid.


Fine, but you can't use them both at the same time (unless you want to
produce indefensible gibberish), and ffgmx is deprecated anyway.


I am not sure whether I misunderstand the usage of Berger's force field,
if i am wrong,
please give me further instruction.


See my advice last time.


Don't mix forcefields unless you already have hard evidence that this
combination works - and I'm not aware of any. The link Justin provided
warns you about that. You need to find a force field that has parameters
optimized that suit your system. Mixing anything else is about 99% 
likely

to make an expensive (and poor) random number generator.


Look in the literature for systems similar to yours and see if their
ideas on force fields are suitable for you to use. Making it up based on
stuff you found on the web is for high school students doing assignments 
:-)


Mark



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[gmx-users] Re: how to write the correct top file for membrane protein

2007-11-25 Thread liang

Dear Mark,

Thanks for your advice, but from my understanding, Berger's force field is 
based on OPLS/Amber.
Lipid itp files from Tieleman's website just use the atom type definitions 
from GROMOS87.

And GROMOS87 is out of fashion now.
So thats why i think it would be better to use OPLS for protein and 
"ffgmx.itp" for lipids.
I am not sure whether I misunderstand the usage of Berger's force field, if 
i am wrong,

please give me further instruction.

I hope it would not be bothering you.  Thanks so much!

Liang




Dear Justin,

Thanks for you quickly reply.

I have tried before to comment out the section of [ defaults ] in the 
next

itp file, but still too many warnings and final crashed.
And i think it would not be the best method to solve this problem, 
because

i
have to use ffgmx.itp to deal with DPPC.

Is there any other method i can try?


Don't mix forcefields unless you already have hard evidence that this
combination works - and I'm not aware of any. The link Justin provided
warns you about that. You need to find a force field that has parameters
optimized that suit your system. Mixing anything else is about 99% likely
to make an expensive (and poor) random number generator.

Mark




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Re: [gmx-users] how to write the correct top file for membraneprotein system?

2007-11-25 Thread liang
Hi Hadas,

i have tried to use gromos87 for protein, everything is ok. (just with 
ffgmx.itp)
but if i use opls for protein, i have to add "ffoplsaa.itp" in top file, 
otherwise it cannot provide some parameters for protein.
Did you use gromos87 to generate your protein itp files (chain_A .itp ...) ?

Thanks

Liang

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To: "liang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion list for GROMACS users" 

Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] how to write the correct top file for membraneprotein 
system?


> Hi Liang,
> 
> Do you have to define ffoplsaa.itp in your top file? isn't it enough to 
> generate your protein topology with the OPLS forcefield using pdb2gmx and 
> include the protein's generated itp files?
> 
> I don't use OPLS, but my own definition of the .top file goes like this:
> 
> ; generic + lipid topology
> #include "ffgmx.itp"
> #include "lipid.itp"
> #include "dmpc.itp"
> #include "ions.itp"
> 
> ; protein
> #include "chain_A.itp"
> #include "chain_B.itp"
> #include "chain_C.itp"
> #include "chain_D.itp"
> 
> ; water
> #include "spc.itp"
> 
> Rest of my molecule definitions are similar (protein first, then lipid, then 
> water, and finally ions to neutralize the system).
> 
> Hope it helps,
> Hadas.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "liang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Justin A. Lemkul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] how to write the correct top file for 
> membraneprotein system?
> 
> 
>> Dear Justin,
>>
>> Thanks for you quickly reply.
>>
>> I have tried before to comment out the section of [ defaults ] in the next 
>> itp file, but still too many warnings and final crashed.
>> And i think it would not be the best method to solve this problem, because 
>> i have to use ffgmx.itp to deal with DPPC.
>>
>> Is there any other method i can try?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Liang
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Justin A. Lemkul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "liang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion list for GROMACS 
>> users" 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] how to write the correct top file for membrane 
>> protein system?
>>
>>
>>> Quoting liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>> Dear User,
>>>>
>>>> i try to perform simulation on membrane protein ( proterin + DPPC ).
>>>> And i use OPLS for protein, Berger force field for DPPC.
>>>> But after i construct this system, i cannot obtain tpr file by using 
>>>> grompp.
>>>>
>>>> Here is my topol.top :
>>>>
>>>> ; protein
>>>> #include "ffoplsaa.itp"
>>>> #include "protein-opls.itp"
>>>>
>>>> ; membrane
>>>> #include "ffgmx.itp"
>>>> #include "lipid.itp"
>>>> #include "dppc.itp"
>>>>
>>>> ; Include water topology
>>>> #include "spc.itp"
>>>>
>>>> [ system ]
>>>> ; name
>>>> Membrane in water
>>>>
>>>> [ molecules ]
>>>> ; name  number
>>>> Protein1
>>>> DPPC  123
>>>> SOL 14189
>>>>
>>>> here is the result:
>>>>
>>> 
>>>> Fatal error:
>>>> Invalid order for directive defaults, file
>>>> ""/home/gmx331/share/gromacs/top/ffgmx.itp"", line 4
>>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I suspect it is a result of using two different force fields.  The [ 
>>> defaults ]
>>> will be defined in the first force field (in your case, ffoplsaa.itp), 
>>> but then
>>> grompp is finding a second [ defaults ] in ffgmx.itp.  See here:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Errors#Found_a_second_defaults_directive_file
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you please give me some suggestion?  i appreciate y

Re: [gmx-users] how to write the correct top file for membrane protein system?

2007-11-24 Thread liang

Dear Justin,

Thanks for you quickly reply.

I have tried before to comment out the section of [ defaults ] in the next 
itp file, but still too many warnings and final crashed.
And i think it would not be the best method to solve this problem, because i 
have to use ffgmx.itp to deal with DPPC.


Is there any other method i can try?

Thanks

Liang

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To: "liang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion list for GROMACS users" 


Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] how to write the correct top file for membrane 
protein system?




Quoting liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Dear User,

i try to perform simulation on membrane protein ( proterin + DPPC ).
And i use OPLS for protein, Berger force field for DPPC.
But after i construct this system, i cannot obtain tpr file by using 
grompp.


Here is my topol.top :

; protein
#include "ffoplsaa.itp"
#include "protein-opls.itp"

; membrane
#include "ffgmx.itp"
#include "lipid.itp"
#include "dppc.itp"

; Include water topology
#include "spc.itp"

[ system ]
; name
Membrane in water

[ molecules ]
; name  number
Protein1
DPPC  123
SOL 14189

here is the result:




Fatal error:
Invalid order for directive defaults, file
""/home/gmx331/share/gromacs/top/ffgmx.itp"", line 4




I suspect it is a result of using two different force fields.  The [ 
defaults ]
will be defined in the first force field (in your case, ffoplsaa.itp), but 
then

grompp is finding a second [ defaults ] in ffgmx.itp.  See here:

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Errors#Found_a_second_defaults_directive_file

-Justin



Could you please give me some suggestion?  i appreciate your help.

Thanks so much!






Justin A. Lemkul
Graduate Research Assistant
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/





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[gmx-users] how to write the correct top file for membrane protein system?

2007-11-24 Thread liang
Dear User,

i try to perform simulation on membrane protein ( proterin + DPPC ).
And i use OPLS for protein, Berger force field for DPPC. 
But after i construct this system, i cannot obtain tpr file by using grompp.

Here is my topol.top :

; protein
#include "ffoplsaa.itp"
#include "protein-opls.itp"

; membrane
#include "ffgmx.itp"
#include "lipid.itp"
#include "dppc.itp"

; Include water topology
#include "spc.itp"

[ system ]
; name
Membrane in water

[ molecules ]
; name  number
Protein1
DPPC  123
SOL 14189

here is the result:

Fatal error:
Invalid order for directive defaults, file 
""/home/gmx331/share/gromacs/top/ffgmx.itp"", line 4


Could you please give me some suggestion?  i appreciate your help.

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Re: [gmx-users] How to add calcium ions at desired position?

2007-11-18 Thread liang
> Never couple solvent and ions separately.  Check out:

> http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Thermostats

> Try tc-grps = Protein Non-protein

excuse me, if the system includes lipid bilayer, how should i set the tc-prgs?
Protein + Lipids + Sol and Ion?
or Protein + Non-protein ?

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[gmx-users] Re: about gromacs-osx-intel-3.3.1.dmg

2007-09-13 Thread liang
Dear Users, 

actually, libXm.2.dylib is missing.

Could anyboby tell me how to get this file?

Thanks

>liang wrote:
>> Dear Users,
>>  
>> i would like to install gromacs on Mac OSX tiger 10.4.10, and i download 
>> this dmg file from ftp site.
>> after i installed successfully, i tried to test some commands 
>> but it showed some warnings:
>>  
>> dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/gromacs/lib/libmd.4.dylib

>does this library exist? Or did you put it in another directory?

>>Referenced from: /Users/Wayne/Gromacs/bin/mdrun
>>Reason: image not found
>> Trace/BPT trap
>>  
>> it seems to lack a lib file, but i dont know how to get it.
>> does anyone give me some advice? 
>>  
>> Thanks so much !!!

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[gmx-users] about gromacs-osx-intel-3.3.1.dmg

2007-09-11 Thread liang
Dear Users,

i would like to install gromacs on Mac OSX tiger 10.4.10, and i download this 
dmg file from ftp site.
after i installed successfully, i tried to test some commands but it showed 
some warnings:

dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/gromacs/lib/libmd.4.dylib
   Referenced from: /Users/Wayne/Gromacs/bin/mdrun
   Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap

it seems to lack a lib file, but i dont know how to get it.
does anyone give me some advice?  

Thanks so much !!!
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Re: [gmx-users] rhdo box shape changed during simulation

2006-11-02 Thread Liang Ma
Hi Tsjerk,    Thanks for the hint. :-) I will check the compatability of isotropic scaling and parinello-rahman method. Thanks!LiangOn 11/2/06, 
Tsjerk Wassenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Liang,I'm not completely sure on this one, but isn't parinello-rahman perdefinition anisotropic? Check the manual.Regarding the second question, my usual answer is "there's no suchthing as a box in the infinite simulation system". There's only the
lattice, which is defined by three vectors. But whether the shape ofthe unit cell is allowed to change depends on the pressure couplingyou use. When using isotropic pressure coupling you're using a scalarto scale the box vectors and your box shape (the angles between your
vectors and the relative lengths) will be retained. But if I recallcorrectly, parinello-rahman works by changing the box vectors based onthe "velocities" of these box vectors, which are scaled at every step
to relax to the desired pressure. Thus, anisotropic pressure scaling.You could try to use Berendsen pressure coupling.Best,TsjerkOn 11/2/06, Liang Ma <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi Tsjerk,> Thanks for you fast reply. :-):-) Yes, I indeed used the isotropic> pressure scaling method.  That's why I found it's surpring that one> dimension of my system actually shrinked. Is there any other possible reason
> for this? Or, is there any constraint to keep the box shape always> rhdo-like?  If not, does gromacs always treat rhdo as triclinic and the box> shaple actually is free to change?>>
> Thanks a lot!>> Liang>> This is my grompp file:>> ; title and include files> title= salt> cpp  = cpp> include  =
> -I/home/ma/gromacs/share/gromacs/top -I./> define   => ; integrator and input/output setting up> integrator   = md> nsteps   = 60 ; 1.2 ns equilibration
> dt   = 0.002> nstxout  = 5000> nstvout  = 5000> nstenergy= 500> nstxtcout= 500> nstlog   = 500
> xtc_grps = System> energygrps   = System> comm_mode= none> ; neighbor searching and vdw/pme setting up> nstlist  = 10> ns_type  = grid
> pbc  = xyz> rlist= 1.4>> coulombtype  = pme> fourierspacing   = 0.1> pme_order= 6> rcoulomb = 
1.4>> vdwtype  = switch> rvdw_switch  = 1.0> rvdw = 1.2>> ; cpt control> tcoupl   = nose-hoover> tc-grps  = System
> tau_t= 0.1> ref_t= 300> Pcoupl   = parrinello-rahman> pcoupltype   = isotropic> tau_p= 1.0> compressibility  = 
4.5e-5> ref_p= 1.0>> ; velocity & temperature control> gen_vel  = no> gen_temp = 300> annealing= no> constraints  = hbonds
> constraint_algorithm = shake> morse= no>>>>> On 11/2/06, Tsjerk Wassenaar < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Hi Liang,> >> > Apparently, your system contracted in one direction. You can avoid> > this by simulating at constant volume or by using isotropic pressure> > coupling.
> > Your protein should not have direct interactions with its periodic> > images during the simulation. This usually means you can discard your> > results.> > The last two values are the x and y skewing of the third vector
> > defining your periodic lattice (the periodic boundary conditions).> > Likewise, the first two zeros are the y and z skewing of the first> > vector and the other two zeros are the x and z skewing of the second
> > vector. You can check chapter 3 of the gromacs manual to get to know> > more about periodic boundary conditions in gromacs.> >> > Best,> >> > Tsjerk> >
> > On 11/2/06, Liang Ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Hi all gromacs users,> > >  I am simulating a protein in explicit solvent with Periodic
> boundary> > > condition and PME . The box type I used> > > is rhdo (rhombic dodecahedron). However, I checked the box length and> angle> > > during simulations,  it  deviates far away from the normal rhdo box
> shape.> > > For example, the third line  in  pdb  at the beginning is :> > >  CRYST1   90.093   90.093   90.093  60.00  60.00  90.00 P 1   1

Re: [gmx-users] rhdo box shape changed during simulation

2006-11-02 Thread Liang Ma
Hi Tsjerk,     Thanks for you fast reply. :-):-) Yes, I indeed used the isotropic pressure scaling method.  That's why I found it's surpring that one dimension of my system actually shrinked. Is there any other possible reason for this? Or, is there any constraint to keep the box shape always rhdo-like?  If not, does gromacs always treat rhdo as triclinic and the box shaple actually is free to change?
Thanks a lot! LiangThis is my grompp file:; title and include filestitle    = saltcpp  = cppinclude  = -I/home/ma/gromacs/share/gromacs/top -I./
define   =; integrator and input/output setting upintegrator   = mdnsteps   = 60 ; 1.2 ns equilibrationdt   = 0.002nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000nstenergy    = 500nstxtcout    = 500nstlog   = 500xtc_grps = Systemenergygrps   = Systemcomm_mode    = none
; neighbor searching and vdw/pme setting upnstlist  = 10ns_type  = gridpbc  = xyzrlist    = 1.4coulombtype  = pme
fourierspacing   = 0.1pme_order    = 6rcoulomb = 1.4vdwtype  = switchrvdw_switch  = 1.0rvdw = 1.2; cpt control
tcoupl   = nose-hoovertc-grps  = Systemtau_t    = 0.1ref_t    = 300Pcoupl   = parrinello-rahmanpcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p    = 1.0compressibility  = 4.5e-5ref_p    = 1.0; velocity & temperature controlgen_vel  = nogen_temp = 300annealing    = no
constraints  = hbondsconstraint_algorithm = shakemorse    = noOn 11/2/06, Tsjerk Wassenaar <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi Liang,Apparently, your system contracted in one direction. You can avoid
this by simulating at constant volume or by using isotropic pressurecoupling.Your protein should not have direct interactions with its periodicimages during the simulation. This usually means you can discard your
results.The last two values are the x and y skewing of the third vectordefining your periodic lattice (the periodic boundary conditions).Likewise, the first two zeros are the y and z skewing of the first
vector and the other two zeros are the x and z skewing of the secondvector. You can check chapter 3 of the gromacs manual to get to knowmore about periodic boundary conditions in gromacs.Best,Tsjerk
On 11/2/06, Liang Ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi all gromacs users,>  I am simulating a protein in explicit solvent with Periodic boundary
> condition and PME . The box type I used> is rhdo (rhombic dodecahedron). However, I checked the box length and angle> during simulations,  it  deviates far away from the normal rhdo box shape.> For example, the third line  in  pdb  at the beginning is :
>  CRYST1   90.093   90.093   90.093  60.00  60.00  90.00 P 1   1> which is a perfect rhdo box.>> During the simulation, it changed to:> CRYST1   89.503   89.503   68.425 105.59 
105.59  90.00 P 1   1> ,which is not rhdo.> Meanwhile, the distance between the protein and its nearst image decreased> dramatically, (they even touched).> So my question is this normal? If not, is there any way to constraint the
> box always in a rhdo box shape (a=b=c)>> And also,> the last line in the gro file changed to:> 8.95030   8.95030   6.32914   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0> -1.83879  -1.83879
> what does the last two negative values exactly mean?>>>  Thanks for any help!> Liang>> ___> gmx-users mailing list
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[gmx-users] rhdo box shape changed during simulation

2006-11-02 Thread Liang Ma
Hi all gromacs users, I am simulating a protein in explicit solvent with Periodic boundary condition and PME . The box type I used is rhdo (rhombic dodecahedron). However, I checked the box length and angle during simulations,  it  deviates far away from the normal rhdo box shape.  For example, the third line  in  pdb  at the beginning is :
 CRYST1   90.093   90.093   90.093  60.00  60.00  90.00 P 1   1which is a perfect rhdo box. During the simulation, it changed to:CRYST1   89.503   89.503   68.425 105.59 105.59  90.00 P 1   1
,which is not rhdo. Meanwhile, the distance between the protein and its nearst image decreased dramatically, (they even touched).So my question is this normal? If not, is there any way to constraint the box always in a rhdo box shape (a=b=c)
And also, the last line in the gro file changed to:8.95030   8.95030   6.32914   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0  -1.83879  -1.83879what does the last two negative values exactly mean?
Thanks for any help!Liang
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[gmx-users] a problem about Coul-LR in energy groups output. Coul-LR is always ZERO !

2006-09-18 Thread Dai Liang



I want to analyze the energy during a normal 
simulation. Some strange things happened.
In mdp file, I selected DNA, NA+, SOL for energy 
groups output. When I analyzed edr file by g_energy, I found Coul_LR is always 
ZERO. I think my parameters have no problem, rlist =  1.0 
rcoulomb =  1.0, rvdw  =  1.0. Furthermore, when I selected 
'System' for energy output, Coul_LR have some reasonable values.
 
When I do MD simulation in other computer, 
there is NO output for Coul-LR with the SAME parameter 
file. 

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[gmx-users] Re: problem with dimer simulation !

2006-09-11 Thread C.W. Liang



hi cw,using trjconv -pbc nojump should 
remove the jumps. then you can analyse interactions between different 
chains, while it doesn't matter for the analysis where they 
diffuse.daniela
hello, daniela
 
thanks for your reply, it really doesn't matter when i 
calculate the distance between two peptides ?
 
best regards,
 
Liang
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[gmx-users] Re: problem with dimer simulation !

2006-09-11 Thread C.W. Liang



try - cluster, and then as cluster group 
protein.Kay.
hello, Kay
 
thanks so much for your advice, but with -pbc cluster, one of 
the two peptides still move out of the box and frequently jump 
back.
i have no idea about it, any else should i do ?
 
best regards,
 
Liang
 
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[gmx-users] problem with dimer simulation !

2006-09-09 Thread C.W. Liang



hi, all user:
 
i performed the dimer simulation,  and want to 
realize the interaction between two peptides.
but frequently, i  encountered this 
kind of problem:  sometimes peptides moved out of the box, and sometimes 
they jumped back.
i have tried so many way to pull them back with trjconv 
command, but still cause some unexpected problem.
for example, peptides break to many parts ( with -pbc whole ) 
or diffuse out of box gradually ( with -pbc nojump )
with -ur or -center still not the trajectory i really want. i 
think maybe there are some tricks to perform.
any suggestions for me ?   thanks sooo 
much!
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[gmx-users] Re: freeenergy calculation

2006-06-01 Thread Liang


Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:34:14 +0530
From: "lalitha selvam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [gmx-users] freeenergy calculation
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i have completed my simulation.i want to analyse my protein.can u help me
how to calculate the free binding energy calculation,which program i should
use.i've read gromacs manual 3.3 but i'm in need of any other new analysis
are included in version 3.3 or not.so where can i getthe information on
availability of more analysis in GROMACS 3.3 version comapred to older
version.
thanks sir.i'm in hurry.Plz anyone help me.

hello, you can use g_sham program (new one in 3.3)to calculate free energy
distribution and draw the picture.
first, you should prepare a xvg file with three columns. the first is frame
time, the second and third are the parameters you want to calculate, for
example like this:

Time RMSD dist
0 1.2  0.8
1 1.3  1.1
2 0.5  0.9
.   . .
.   . .

and then, use the following command:

g_sham -f  *.xvg -ls

you can get the pic, and with -ngrid you can get the high resolution pics.


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Re: [gmx-users] how to use g_sham ?

2006-05-20 Thread Liang





Liang wrote:

Dear all users :
 g_sham is a new program in 3.3 and i cant find any  discussion about how 
to use in mailing lists, and i didnt catch the point about the 
instructions in user manual.
 Is it possible to draw pics about PMF or free energy landscape using 
some special coordinates, like RMSD, potential, or dihedral angle 
variations etc. ?


all yes.

have you run g_sham -h ?


YES,  g_sham -h is the same as user manual, but i still have some puzzle.
for example, i wanna calculate the RMSD vary with potential energy, so i 
generate rmsd.xvg and energy.xvg.


g_sham -f rmsd.xvg -ene energy.xvg

is it right?

and how to set up the parameter of free energy landscape vectors?
like -dim -ngrid -xmin -xmax -gmax

THANKS SO MUCH !!


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[gmx-users] how to use g_sham ?

2006-05-19 Thread Liang



Dear all users : 
 
g_sham is a new program in 3.3 and i cant find any  
discussion about how to use in mailing lists, and i didnt catch the 
point about the instructions in user manual.
 
Is it possible to draw pics about PMF or free energy landscape 
using some special coordinates, like RMSD, potential, or dihedral angle 
variations etc. ?
and How to  set up the parameters to get a sensible 
picture?
 
thanks so much for any reply
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