[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 54, Issue 83

2008-10-18 Thread servaas michielssens
The easiest is to use antechamber to generate your topology and then use
the amb2gmx.pl
(http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/index.php/Image:Amb2gmx.gz)
To convert your amber topology to gromacs.

sevaas



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> How do I create topology files for a ligand when using ffamber99 in gromacs?
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[gmx-users] RE: ligand parameterization for amber port in gmx

2008-09-20 Thread servaas michielssens
What do you mean by severe deformations? I would expect a lagere
difference in conformation for pyrophosphate bound to mg and free
pyrophosphate. You could do extra quantum calculations and compare them
to your force field calculations to check the quality of your force
field. If this is no good, you could consider using RESP charges. Did
you compare your parameters do published pyrophosphate parameters e.g.
http://www.pharmacy.manchester.ac.uk/bryce/amber

hope this helps,

servaas


> Dear people,
> 
> I have parameterized a ligand with one phosphate and one pyrophospate group
> using antechamber with AM1-BCC charges and the GAFF forcefield. Amber files
> were converted to gmx files (*.itp/*.top and *.gro) with the amb2gmx
> conversion tool (http://www.alchemistry.org/wiki/index.php/Free_Energy_Tools)
> and then used in gromacs for energy minimization. The geometry looks fine
> after in vacuo EM and EM in water (ffamber tip3p model from amber ports) of
> the ligand alone (not bound to protein!). Minimizing the ligand in its
> binding mode as seen in the corresponding PDB (using the amber03 ff) also
> works fine if magnesium ions are NOT included. Including magnesium ions
> however leads to severe deformations of the phosphate and pyrophosphate
> groups. I suspect it has something to do with not including the magnesium
> ions in the parameterization. Can anybody please give me a hint on how to
> solve this problem?
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Merc


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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 51, Issue 21

2008-07-05 Thread servaas michielssens
In the [ defaults ] section change the combination rule.


servaas



Hi,
> 
> Is there a possibility when constructing the own .itp file to point
> out Lennard-Jones (12, 6) parameters not in the form of C6 and C12 but
> as sigma and epsilon.
> 
> Is there any key to switch this option?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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[gmx-users] Re: Dynamics : ONE dihedral angle time resolution

2008-07-03 Thread servaas michielssens

Or add option -all if you have several...


servaas



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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:01:53 -0700
 "Chih-Ying Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi
I want to get the dynamics of ONE dihedral angle time resolution.

g_angle computes the angle distribution for a number of angles or
dihedrals.
With option -ov I can plot the average angle of a group of angles as
a function of time.

I don't want the average angle of a group of dihedral angle as a
function of time.
But, I need  ONE dihedral angle as a function of time to know the
dynamics of this dihedral angle.

if you put only one angle in your index, then the average is the value
of the angle in function of time.


Thanks a lot
Lin
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[gmx-users] Re: centering molecule in the water box

2008-07-01 Thread servaas michielssens

What box type are you using? Try adding following options

-center -pbc mol -ur compact


kind regards,

servaas




Hi all,
During my MD the molecule experience a drift. Now I want to put the  
molecule at the center of the water box.
I tried with trjconv using the -pbc mol and -center flag and using a  
reference frame where the molecule is at the center of the box.
It seems that all the box (water+molecule) is translated, and so the  
position of the molecule relatively to the box is unchanged.
I also checked the gmx-users list and I didn't get any useful  
suggestion.


Fabio





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[gmx-users] trjcat -demux

2008-06-13 Thread servaas michielssens

Dear gromacs users,

I tried using trjcat like this:
trjcat -f gromacs*.trr -demux replica_index.xvg (see below for 
replica_index.xvg and logfile)


there are 20 trajectories containing each 2001 frames, with timestep of 
0.5ps (I checked it with gmxcheck).


The error:
Reading frame  60 time1.500   Segmentation fault
(frame doesn't fit with the time...)


this is my replica_index.xvg file (it contains, 2001 lines with timestep of 
0.5ps):
0   0123456789   10   11   12 
13   14   15   16   17   18   19
0.5 013425679   108   11   12 
13   14   16   15   17   19   18

.
.
.
.
999.5  120614385   189   13   162 
10   177   11   19   15   14
1000.0 120614385   189   13   162 
10   177   11   19   15   14



This is the logfile:
 :-)  trjcat  (-:

Option Filename  Type Description

 -f  gromacs20.trr  Input, Mult.
gromacs210.trr
gromacs211.trr
gromacs212.trr
gromacs213.trr
gromacs214.trr
gromacs215.trr
gromacs216.trr
gromacs217.trr
gromacs218.trr
gromacs219.trr
 gromacs21.trr
 gromacs22.trr
 gromacs23.trr
 gromacs24.trr
 gromacs25.trr
 gromacs26.trr
 gromacs27.trr
 gromacs28.trr
 gromacs29.trr   Generic trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 
pdb
 -otrajout.xtc  Output, Mult. Generic trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 
pdb

 -n  index.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
-demux replica_index.xvg  Input, Opt!  xvgr/xmgr file

Option   Type   Value   Description
--
-[no]h   bool   no  Print help info and quit
-niceint19  Set the nicelevel
-tu  enum   ps  Time unit: ps, fs, ns, us, ms or s
-[no]xvgrbool   yes Add specific codes (legends etc.) in the output
   xvg files for the xmgrace program
-b   time   -1  First time to use (ps)
-e   time   -1  Last time to use (ps)
-dt  time   0   Only write frame when t MOD dt = first time (ps)
-precint3   Precision for .xtc and .gro writing in number of
   decimal places
-[no]vel bool   yes Read and write velocities if possible
-[no]settime bool   no  Change starting time interactively
-nrepl   int1   Number of replicas assumed to be numbered
   consecutively. Only used with the -demux option
-[no]sortbool   yes Sort trajectory files (not frames)
-[no]keeplast  bool no  keep overlapping frames at end of trajectory
-[no]cat bool   no  do not discard double time frames

Read 20 sets of 2000 points, dt = 0.5

trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time0.000
Reading frame  60 time1.500   Segmentation fault

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[gmx-users] pbc-replica exchange-trjconv

2008-06-13 Thread servaas michielssens
For a given temperature, I will make them continues again then before 
analysis.


Thanks for the help!

kind regards,

servaas



Hoi Servaas,

Was that the trajectory for a given temperature, or for a given
system? It should be for the latter, as otherwise, there will be weird
shifts introduced. A trajectory for a given system, over the different
conditions should be (from the PBC point of view) continuous and it
should be possible to perform PBC related operations.

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk


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[gmx-users] Re: pbc-replica exchange-trjconv

2008-06-12 Thread servaas michielssens

Tsjerk and Justin thanks for your suggestions.

Justin, the combination you suggested did not work, I tried many things 
without succes here.

I got the following error using whole and mol. (after doing nojump)
There were 8 inconsistent shifts. Check your topology
There were 8 inconsistent shifts. Check your topology
Will stop reporting inconsistent shifts

Tsjerk you are right I should explain the names:
trjconv -f gromacs.trr -o cluster.trr -n lig_prot.ndx -pbc cluster -s 
top140.tpr


gromacs.trr = trajectory generated by replica exchange
cluster.trr = output name
lig_prot.ndx=index file of with a group for ligand and protein
top140.tpr=tpr file generated using the starting configuration of 
gromacs.trr


You were right about the fit last time, but the error stays the same if I 
don't do the fit first...
Could the it be the fact that it is a replica exchange simulation that 
causes the problem, this makes that there are jumps in the trajectory of 
course...


kind regards,

servaas




servaas michielssens wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

I have a problem that is already discussed a lot on the mailing list,
in a protein-ligand simulation the ligad jumps out of the box. The
trajectory is generated by replica exchange simulation. So I used
trjconv with the option cluster:

trjconv -f fit.trr -o cluster.trr -n lig_prot.ndx -pbc cluster -s
top140.tpr
The program seems to get stuck at frame 208, repeating the following
lines:
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6214  Isq =   21.428
COM:0.000 0.000 0.000  iter = 6215  Isq =   54.757
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6208  Isq =   21.428
COM:0.000 0.000 0.000  iter = 6209  Isq =   54.757
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6210  Isq =   21.428
COM:0.000 0.000 0.000  iter = 6211  Isq =   54.757
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6212  Isq =   21.428

if I use this command:
trjconv -f fit.trr -o cluster.trr -n lig_prot.ndx -pbc cluster

The program runs but the ligands is still out of the box, the option
-s seems to be necessary, but not working in my case.

I also tried the -nojump option and after this the whole option but in
visualistion (with VMD) I got strange bonds...



I've found that sometimes several iterations of trjconv are necessary to
get such things fixed up.  Something like -pbc nojump, followed by
'whole,' and 'mol' or 'res' after that might do the trick.  It's a bit
of trial and error, and if anyone else out there has a better method,
I'd love to hear it, too :-)

-Justin


An often reported problem was that the the structure in the tpr file
is not close enough to the starting structure in the trajectory, I
tried it by making a tpr file with a the strating structure of the
trajectory (in this structure the ligand is in the active site if I
look at the structure). But this did not help.


What I am doing wrong here?

thanks in advance for your help!

kind regards,

servaas
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Hi Servaas,

trjconv -f fit.trr -o cluster.trr -n lig_prot.ndx -pbc cluster -s 
top140.tpr


I think there's quite a bit of reason to start calling you names here :)
Assumedly, fit.trr means that it results from fitting the trajectory
to a reference?
So what does this do with your PBC?


I also tried the -nojump option and after this the whole option but in
visualistion (with VMD) I got strange bonds...


Right, so strange bonds should be quite an indication that there's
something weird with your shifts.

An often reported problem was that the the structure in the tpr file is 
not

close enough to the starting structure in the trajectory, I tried it by
making a tpr file with a the strating structure of the trajectory (in 
this
structure the ligand is in the active site if I look at the structure). 
But

this did not help.


Another often, or at least several times, mentioned problem relates to
the fact that fitting a structure reorients the molecule, but leaves
the PBC as it is, causing a mismatch between the system and the PBC.
Therefore one can not execute any PBC related operations (nojump,
cluster, whole), after the trajectory has been fitted.

No hard feelings ;)

Cheers,

Tsjerk





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[gmx-users] pbc-replica exchange-trjconv

2008-06-11 Thread servaas michielssens

Dear gromacs users,

I have a problem that is already discussed a lot on the mailing list, in a 
protein-ligand simulation the ligad jumps out of the box. The trajectory is 
generated by replica exchange simulation. So I used trjconv with the option 
cluster:


trjconv -f fit.trr -o cluster.trr -n lig_prot.ndx -pbc cluster -s top140.tpr
The program seems to get stuck at frame 208, repeating the following lines:
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6214  Isq =   21.428
COM:0.000 0.000 0.000  iter = 6215  Isq =   54.757
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6208  Isq =   21.428
COM:0.000 0.000 0.000  iter = 6209  Isq =   54.757
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6210  Isq =   21.428
COM:0.000 0.000 0.000  iter = 6211  Isq =   54.757
COM:1.730 1.730 2.447  iter = 6212  Isq =   21.428

if I use this command:
trjconv -f fit.trr -o cluster.trr -n lig_prot.ndx -pbc cluster

The program runs but the ligands is still out of the box, the option -s 
seems to be necessary, but not working in my case.


I also tried the -nojump option and after this the whole option but in 
visualistion (with VMD) I got strange bonds...


An often reported problem was that the the structure in the tpr file is not 
close enough to the starting structure in the trajectory, I tried it by 
making a tpr file with a the strating structure of the trajectory (in this 
structure the ligand is in the active site if I look at the structure). But 
this did not help.



What I am doing wrong here?

thanks in advance for your help!

kind regards,

servaas 


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[gmx-users] system contains proteins and DNAs with ffamber99

2008-06-11 Thread servaas michielssens
If you have amber, you can make your topology in amber and convert them to 
gromacs with the script on this website:


http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/tools.html


kind regards,

servaas



Dear all,

   Sometimes,the PDB file contains water molecules which only have the 
oxygen atom. Can

Gromacs add the hydrogen atoms of the water molecules?

   Additionly, when use Gromacs with the force field ffamber99, Can it add 
the hydrogen
atoms of the DNA? Can I use the force field ffamber99 to simulate the 
system which contains

proteins and DNAs?



Best regards, 


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[gmx-users] Re: Help needed on using general amber force field (GAFF)

2008-03-31 Thread servaas michielssens
There is not really a difference between proper and improper dihedrals in 
amber the amberFF, the only difference is that improper dihedrals are not 
serially linked (amber 8 manual page 261).
I do not really understand your problem. Are you writing a new topology for 
a small molecule in the amberFF? You can best use the amber tools in this 
case and then convert it to gromacs with the script on the website I 
mentioned below. If you rename your atoms in the amber conventions you can 
use parmchk to check if parameters are present in de gaff. If not you can 
calculate them by quantum chemical chemical calculation or use equivalent 
parameters. (but this is more a topic for the amber mailing list...)



kind regards,

servaas




Message: 6
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:25:17 -0400
From: "Xiangyu Fan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Help needed on using general amber force
field (GAFF) in Gromacs
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Hi Servaas,

Thanks for your reply. Your inforamtion is very helpful. Now I am trying 
to

write the topology file by myself when dealing with a small molecule. I
have know their conversion relationship, but in my case, I want to fix a 
few

atoms in a plane.  From the gaff.dat file , I can see the parameters on
proper dihedral but not improper dihedral. I am just wondering how
to retrival info. on improper dihedral from gaff.dat file. If you have 
such

experience, please let me know. I do appreciate your kind help.

best regards,

Xiangyu



On 3/14/08, servaas michielssens 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote:


I don't think you can generate your topology from the pdb file with
gromacs in this case (with gaff). You can first make it in amber and
than convert it to gromacs.
On this website is the info you need, in the FAQs there is a link to
dowload the script to do the job.
http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/


kind regards,

servaas





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[gmx-users] Re: Help needed on using general amber force field (GAFF) in Gromacs

2008-03-14 Thread servaas michielssens
I don't think you can generate your topology from the pdb file with
gromacs in this case (with gaff). You can first make it in amber and
than convert it to gromacs.
On this website is the info you need, in the FAQs there is a link to
dowload the script to do the job.
http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/


kind regards,

servaas



Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:57:29 -0400
From: "Xiangyu Fan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [gmx-users] Help needed on using general amber force field
(GAFF)  in Gromacs
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Hi all,

I am using GAFF force field for Gromacs package to simulate MD of
surfactant
molecule. I know we can generate .top file using some simple command
like
pdb2gmx if we use gromos force field. I am just wondering whether I can
do
the similar thing when using GAFF force field. If you have any
experience in
GAFF+Gromacs, please give me some advice. thanks

Xiangyu Fan

UNC-Chapel Hill
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You might not use pdb2gmx for such task.

Once you have generated topology in AMBER format with Antechamber in 
GAFF, you will need to use some tools like ambconv.pl or ambconv (one
is 
Perl script and one is a C++ programme, check GROMACS' website) to 
convert those files into GROMACS format.

There is ffamber, a port for AMBER force field to GROMACS, which
largely 
similar to what ambconv.pl or ambconv produces. They will provide force 
field for protein and nuclei acids through pdb2gmx. With some 
hand-modifications to the files, you can combine ambconv and ffamber,
so 
you have a solution for almost all molecules.

Regards,
Yang Ye

Xiangyu Fan wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> I am using GAFF force field for Gromacs package to simulate MD of 
> surfactant molecule. I know we can generate .top file using some 
> simple command like pdb2gmx if we use gromos force field. I am just 
> wondering whether I can do the similar thing when using GAFF force 
> field. If you have any experience in GAFF+Gromacs, please give me
some 
> advice. thanks
>  
> Xiangyu Fan
>  
> UNC-Chapel Hill
>  
>  
>

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[gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize

2008-01-29 Thread servaas michielssens
I ran the following command in gromacs:
editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8

The equivalent command in amber:
solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0

As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges are 0.8 
nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in the manual) in 
gromacs is:
121.3092
and in amber:
85.9385483

This is makes a hugde difference in the number of water atoms to add.
Does anyone has an explanation for this paradox?


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[gmx-users] gromacs versus amber boxsize -correction-

2008-01-29 Thread servaas michielssens
I made a mistake in the numbers, but the question remains:

I ran the following command in gromacs:
editconf -bt dodecahedron -f p61_vac_gro.gro -o p61_vac_dod.gro -d 0.8

The equivalent command in amber:
solvateoct p61_vac.pdb TIP3PBOX 8.0

As far as I understand this, both command created a box were the edges are 0.8 
nm away from the solute. But the resulting image distance (d in the manual) in 
gromacs is:
121.3092
and in amber:
110.5103716

This is makes a hugde difference in the number of water atoms to add.
Does anyone has an explanation for this paradox?


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[gmx-users] Re: parallel simulation crash on 6 processors

2007-11-29 Thread servaas michielssens

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> > I tried to run a gromacs simulation (gromacs 3.3.1, MD, 18000 atoms) on 
> > 2 systems:
> >  
> > Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2.40GHz with 100Mbit network
> > and
> > AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 250 with 1Gbit network
> > On both systems I had a crash when I tried to run with more then 5 
> > processors. From 1-5 there was no problem.
> >  
> more details please.
> >  

I ran same the simulation on 1,2,3,4 and 5 processors without any
problem, so I there is no problem with the system that I'm using. But
from to moment I tried to use 6 processors of the same cluster the
simulation crashes, this is the error:

Error on node 0, will try to stop all the nodes
Halting parallel program mdrun on CPU 0 out of 6


On AMD:
[0] MPI Abort by user Aborting program !
[0] Aborting program!
p4_error: latest msg from perror: No such file or directory
p0_3303:  p4_error: : -1
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
p0_3303: (1.088153) net_send: could not write to fd=4, errno = 32
error while executing run nb 1


On intel:
p4_1781:  p4_error: Timeout in establishing connection to remote
process: 0
rm_l_4_1786: (318.577125) net_send: could not write to fd=5, errno = 32
p4_1781: (318.580132) net_send: could not write to fd=5, errno = 32
p0_26458: (319.239545) net_recv failed for fd = 8
p0_26458:  p4_error: net_recv read, errno = : 104
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
Killed by signal 2.^M
p0_26458: (325.249810) net_send: could not write to fd=4, errno = 32
error while executing run nb 1



hope this is the information you need,

greets,

servaas

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[gmx-users] parallel simulation crash on 6 processors

2007-11-28 Thread servaas michielssens
I tried to run a gromacs simulation (gromacs 3.3.1, MD, 18000 atoms) on 2 
systems:

Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU 2.40GHz with 100Mbit network
and
AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 250 with 1Gbit network
On both systems I had a crash when I tried to run with more then 5 processors. 
From 1-5 there was no problem.


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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 81

2007-11-22 Thread servaas michielssens

 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:03:53 -0800

From: "David Mobley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] restart an amber run in gromacs
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Hi,


servaas michielssens wrote:
> I used amb2gmx.pl (from http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/) to convert
> an amber topology and restart file to a gromacs topology and structure
> file and tried to continue the simulation in gromacs. I got the
> following error message:
>
> Constraint error in algorithm Lincs at step 0
>
> t = 0.000 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4642 can not be settled.
> Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the time-step. Wrote pdb files 
> with

> previous and current coordinates
>
> It seems strange to me that this error occurs as there was no problem
> with this simulation in amber. (it ran a few ns in amber).
> I tried to run it after minimalization and this worked fine. So there
> seems to be a problem while converting the files, I am new to gromacs
> and I don't really have a clue how to find the cause of this problem,
> perhaps some of you also tried to continue a amber run in gromacs?


The script is not intended for continuing AMBER runs in GROMACS. As
far as I know no one has ever tested it on this. There are a number of
reasons why this would not be a good idea, not the least of which is
that you are changing simulation parameters/algorithms when you do so,
as Mark notes in the following paragraph.


Judging by my interpretation of your last email, you probably did a more
radical change of ensemble than you think you did. Both AMBER and
GROMACS are approximating some true ensemble, and there's no reason to
assume that a configuration from one will be equilibrated in the other.


Also, I personally have never used the script to convert an entire
system including solvent from AMBER to GROMACS -- just proteins and
ligands, for example, One might worry that the simulation box will not
be converted correct, which could certainly lead to the problems
you're seeing.

Short answer: Even if you think the script is working perfectly,
converting the box properly, etc., then you should at the very least
minimize and equilibrate your amber end state before doing production
in gromacs.

David



Mark


Thanks for your help, I checked the perl script (amb2gmx.pl)  it should work 
for a solvated protein. The solvend and box are converted to gromacs but the 
box information is not converted as it should, amber only defines d and 3 
angels (+information in the topology that it deals with a truncated 
octahedron), while gromacs needs 3 vectors to defines a truncated octahedron 
and this information is only in the .gro file not in the topology. The 
amb2gmx.pl script only copies tree values to the .gro file for an truncated 
octahedron so gromacs thinks it is a cubic box.
Normally the ensembles are both NTP, I can hardly believe that differnces in 
algoritm would cause a "Constraint error in algorithm Lincs at step 0" and 
make the simulation crash. But I agree that this procedure is not the way to 
go for a good simulation, the only intention of this was doing a speed 
comparision.


kind regards,

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[gmx-users] Re:Re: gromacs preformance versus amber (David van der Spoel)

2007-11-22 Thread servaas michielssens

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:54:57 +0100
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] gromacs preformance versus amber
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servaas michielssens wrote:

I am considering to use gromacs for MD-simulation for speed reasons, so
I tried to compare a amber simulation to a gromacs simulation. I ran a
20ps simulation with amber. I converted my topology and coordinate file
from amber to gromacs using and tried the same run in gromacs.
amb2gmx.pl(http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/). This is my amber input:


&cntrl
  imin=0,nstlim=1,nmropt=0
  irest=1,ntx=5,
  iwrap=1,
  nscm=1000,
  dt=0.002,
  ntb=2,ntp=1,
  ntt=1,tautp=1.0,temp0=300.0,
  ntc=2,ntf=2,
  cut=8.0,
  ntwx=250,ntpr=250,
/

This is my gromacs input:

title   = FWS
cpp = /usr/bin/cpp
constraints = all-bonds
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.002 ; ps !
nsteps  = 1 ; total 20 ps.
nstcomm = 1000
nstxout = 250 ; collect data every 1 ps
nstlog  = 0
nstenergy   = 250
nstvout = 0
nstfout = 0
nstlist = 10
ns_type = grid
rlist   = 1.0
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb= 1.0
vdwtype = cutoff
rvdw= 1.4
fourierspacing  = 0.12
fourier_nx  = 0
fourier_ny  = 0
fourier_nz  = 0
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
optimize_fft= yes
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on
Tcoupl  = berendsen
tau_t   = 1.0 1.0
tcgrps  = protein non-protein
ref_t   = 300 300
; Pressure coupling is on
Pcoupl  = parrinellorahman
tau_p   = 0.5
compressibility = 4.5e-5
ref_p   = 1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
gen_vel = no
gen_temp= 300.0
gen_seed= 937475


I ran it on 4 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 250. It turned out that amber
could simulate 1.5ns/day and gromacs only 1ns/day. This was a surprise
to me, I expected that gromacs would be faster.  Could it be that using
gromacs with the amberFF is not faster than just using amber? I am new
to gromacs and perhaps I didn't compare them correct.


Did you run gromacs in parallel at all?
Did you get four md.log files, one for each processor?



Thanks for you answer,

Yes this worked fine, I have a log file for every processor, their must be 
some other problem. I also tried to run it on 8 or 16 processors, here the 
run failed. Amber runs worked fine, so I don't think their are problems with 
the processors


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[gmx-users] restart an amber run in gromacs

2007-11-21 Thread servaas michielssens
I used amb2gmx.pl (from http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/) to convert
an amber topology and restart file to a gromacs topology and structure
file and tried to continue the simulation in gromacs. I got the
following error message:

Constraint error in algorithm Lincs at step 0

t = 0.000 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4642 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the time-step. Wrote pdb files with
previous and current coordinates

It seems strange to me that this error occurs as there was no problem
with this simulation in amber. (it ran a few ns in amber).
I tried to run it after minimalization and this worked fine. So there
seems to be a problem while converting the files, I am new to gromacs
and I don't really have a clue how to find the cause of this problem,
perhaps some of you also tried to continue a amber run in gromacs?


kind regards,

servaas michielssens 

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[gmx-users] restart amber run in gromacs

2007-11-21 Thread servaas michielssens
I used amb2gmx.pl (from http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/) to convert
an amber topology and restart file to a gromacs topology and structure
file and tried to continue the simulation in gromacs. I got the
following error message:

Constraint error in algorithm Lincs at step 0

t = 0.000 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4642 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the time-step. Wrote pdb files with
previous and current coordinates

It seems strange to me that this error occurs as there was no problem
with this simulation in amber. (it ran a few ns in amber).
I tried to run it after minimalization and this worked fine. So there
seems to be a problem while converting the files, I am new to gromacs
and I don't really have a clue how to find the cause of this problem,
perhaps some of you also tried to continue a amber run in gromacs?


kind regards,

servaas michielssens 


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[gmx-users] gromacs preformance versus amber

2007-11-21 Thread servaas michielssens
I am considering to use gromacs for MD-simulation for speed reasons, so
I tried to compare a amber simulation to a gromacs simulation. I ran a
20ps simulation with amber. I converted my topology and coordinate file
from amber to gromacs using and tried the same run in gromacs.
amb2gmx.pl(http://chemistry.csulb.edu/ffamber/). This is my amber input:


&cntrl
  imin=0,nstlim=1,nmropt=0
  irest=1,ntx=5,
  iwrap=1,
  nscm=1000,
  dt=0.002,
  ntb=2,ntp=1,
  ntt=1,tautp=1.0,temp0=300.0,
  ntc=2,ntf=2,
  cut=8.0,
  ntwx=250,ntpr=250,
/

This is my gromacs input:

title   = FWS
cpp = /usr/bin/cpp
constraints = all-bonds
integrator  = md
dt  = 0.002 ; ps !
nsteps  = 1 ; total 20 ps.
nstcomm = 1000
nstxout = 250 ; collect data every 1 ps
nstlog  = 0
nstenergy   = 250
nstvout = 0
nstfout = 0
nstlist = 10
ns_type = grid
rlist   = 1.0
coulombtype = PME
rcoulomb= 1.0
vdwtype = cutoff
rvdw= 1.4
fourierspacing  = 0.12
fourier_nx  = 0
fourier_ny  = 0
fourier_nz  = 0
pme_order   = 4
ewald_rtol  = 1e-5
optimize_fft= yes
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on
Tcoupl  = berendsen
tau_t   = 1.0 1.0
tcgrps  = protein non-protein
ref_t   = 300 300
; Pressure coupling is on
Pcoupl  = parrinellorahman
tau_p   = 0.5
compressibility = 4.5e-5
ref_p   = 1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 300 K.
gen_vel = no
gen_temp= 300.0
gen_seed= 937475

  

I ran it on 4 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 250. It turned out that amber
could simulate 1.5ns/day and gromacs only 1ns/day. This was a surprise
to me, I expected that gromacs would be faster.  Could it be that using
gromacs with the amberFF is not faster than just using amber? I am new
to gromacs and perhaps I didn't compare them correct.

kind regards,

servaas michielssens 

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